From 5f7aeaccbce21157b6ef9d74b658fac8ea8e8585 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Zachary Dunn
Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2019 10:39:54 -0400
Subject: [PATCH] Update vim and git configs
---
.byobu/.metadata_available | 0
.byobu/.screenrc | 0
.byobu/.ssh-agent | 1 +
.byobu/.tmux.conf | 5 +
.byobu/backend | 1 +
.byobu/color | 3 +
.byobu/color.tmux | 4 +
.byobu/datetime.tmux | 2 +
.byobu/keybindings | 1 +
.byobu/keybindings.tmux | 4 +
.byobu/profile | 1 +
.byobu/profile.tmux | 1 +
.byobu/prompt | 2 +
.byobu/status | 37 +
.byobu/statusrc | 78 +
.byobu/windows | 0
.byobu/windows.tmux | 1 +
.gitconfig | 3 +
.gitignore | 0
.profile | 30 +
.viminfo | 594 +-
.weechat/alias.conf | 57 +
.weechat/aspell.conf | 20 +
.weechat/buflist.conf | 39 +
.weechat/charset.conf | 18 +
.weechat/exec.conf | 19 +
.weechat/fifo.conf | 14 +
.weechat/fset.conf | 95 +
.weechat/irc.conf | 195 +
.weechat/iset.conf | 37 +
.weechat/logger.conf | 35 +
.weechat/logs/core.weechat.weechatlog | 589 +
.weechat/logs/irc.server.tilde.weechatlog | 836 ++
.weechat/logs/irc.tilde.#meta.weechatlog | 12362 ++++++++++++++++
.weechat/logs/irc.tilde.#team.weechatlog | 2596 ++++
.weechat/logs/irc.tilde.#vim.weechatlog | 6 +
.weechat/perl.conf | 14 +
.weechat/perl/autoload/highmon.pl | 1 +
.weechat/perl/autoload/iset.pl | 1 +
.weechat/perl/highmon.pl | 1139 ++
.weechat/perl/iset.pl | 1462 ++
.weechat/plugins.conf | 68 +
.weechat/python.conf | 14 +
.weechat/python/apply_corrections.py | 351 +
.weechat/python/autojoin.py | 177 +
.weechat/python/autoload/apply_corrections.py | 1 +
.weechat/python/autoload/autojoin.py | 1 +
.weechat/python/autoload/grep.py | 1 +
.weechat/python/autoload/otr.py | 1 +
.weechat/python/autoload/urlview.py | 1 +
.weechat/python/grep.py | 1731 +++
.weechat/python/otr.py | 2062 +++
.weechat/python/urlview.py | 57 +
.weechat/relay.conf | 55 +
.weechat/ruby.conf | 14 +
.weechat/script.conf | 56 +
.weechat/script/plugins.xml.gz | Bin 0 -> 127955 bytes
.weechat/sec.conf | 18 +
.weechat/spell.conf | 33 +
.weechat/trigger.conf | 59 +
.weechat/weechat.conf | 688 +
.weechat/weechat.log | 22 +
.weechat/xfer.conf | 48 +
63 files changed, 25476 insertions(+), 285 deletions(-)
create mode 100644 .byobu/.metadata_available
create mode 100644 .byobu/.screenrc
create mode 120000 .byobu/.ssh-agent
create mode 100644 .byobu/.tmux.conf
create mode 100644 .byobu/backend
create mode 100644 .byobu/color
create mode 100644 .byobu/color.tmux
create mode 100644 .byobu/datetime.tmux
create mode 100644 .byobu/keybindings
create mode 100644 .byobu/keybindings.tmux
create mode 100644 .byobu/profile
create mode 100644 .byobu/profile.tmux
create mode 100644 .byobu/prompt
create mode 100644 .byobu/status
create mode 100644 .byobu/statusrc
create mode 100644 .byobu/windows
create mode 100644 .byobu/windows.tmux
create mode 100644 .gitconfig
create mode 100644 .gitignore
create mode 100644 .profile
create mode 100644 .weechat/alias.conf
create mode 100644 .weechat/aspell.conf
create mode 100644 .weechat/buflist.conf
create mode 100644 .weechat/charset.conf
create mode 100644 .weechat/exec.conf
create mode 100644 .weechat/fifo.conf
create mode 100644 .weechat/fset.conf
create mode 100644 .weechat/irc.conf
create mode 100644 .weechat/iset.conf
create mode 100644 .weechat/logger.conf
create mode 100644 .weechat/logs/core.weechat.weechatlog
create mode 100644 .weechat/logs/irc.server.tilde.weechatlog
create mode 100644 .weechat/logs/irc.tilde.#meta.weechatlog
create mode 100644 .weechat/logs/irc.tilde.#team.weechatlog
create mode 100644 .weechat/logs/irc.tilde.#vim.weechatlog
create mode 100644 .weechat/perl.conf
create mode 120000 .weechat/perl/autoload/highmon.pl
create mode 120000 .weechat/perl/autoload/iset.pl
create mode 100644 .weechat/perl/highmon.pl
create mode 100644 .weechat/perl/iset.pl
create mode 100644 .weechat/plugins.conf
create mode 100644 .weechat/python.conf
create mode 100644 .weechat/python/apply_corrections.py
create mode 100644 .weechat/python/autojoin.py
create mode 120000 .weechat/python/autoload/apply_corrections.py
create mode 120000 .weechat/python/autoload/autojoin.py
create mode 120000 .weechat/python/autoload/grep.py
create mode 120000 .weechat/python/autoload/otr.py
create mode 120000 .weechat/python/autoload/urlview.py
create mode 100644 .weechat/python/grep.py
create mode 100644 .weechat/python/otr.py
create mode 100644 .weechat/python/urlview.py
create mode 100644 .weechat/relay.conf
create mode 100644 .weechat/ruby.conf
create mode 100644 .weechat/script.conf
create mode 100644 .weechat/script/plugins.xml.gz
create mode 100644 .weechat/sec.conf
create mode 100644 .weechat/spell.conf
create mode 100644 .weechat/trigger.conf
create mode 100644 .weechat/weechat.conf
create mode 100644 .weechat/weechat.log
create mode 100644 .weechat/xfer.conf
diff --git a/.byobu/.metadata_available b/.byobu/.metadata_available
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..e69de29
diff --git a/.byobu/.screenrc b/.byobu/.screenrc
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..e69de29
diff --git a/.byobu/.ssh-agent b/.byobu/.ssh-agent
new file mode 120000
index 0000000..d000cd7
--- /dev/null
+++ b/.byobu/.ssh-agent
@@ -0,0 +1 @@
+/tmp/ssh-UI91oyhHWT/agent.12829
\ No newline at end of file
diff --git a/.byobu/.tmux.conf b/.byobu/.tmux.conf
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..e1629e9
--- /dev/null
+++ b/.byobu/.tmux.conf
@@ -0,0 +1,5 @@
+new -s tilde -n chat 'weechat-curses';
+neww -n mail 'neomutt';
+neww -n shell;
+send-keys -t ":2" byobu-info Enter;
+
diff --git a/.byobu/backend b/.byobu/backend
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..ac0eb76
--- /dev/null
+++ b/.byobu/backend
@@ -0,0 +1 @@
+BYOBU_BACKEND=tmux
diff --git a/.byobu/color b/.byobu/color
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..1ee73ad
--- /dev/null
+++ b/.byobu/color
@@ -0,0 +1,3 @@
+BACKGROUND=k
+FOREGROUND=w
+MONOCHROME=0
\ No newline at end of file
diff --git a/.byobu/color.tmux b/.byobu/color.tmux
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..4f55dc7
--- /dev/null
+++ b/.byobu/color.tmux
@@ -0,0 +1,4 @@
+BYOBU_DARK="\#333333"
+BYOBU_LIGHT="\#EEEEEE"
+BYOBU_ACCENT="\#75507B"
+BYOBU_HIGHLIGHT="\#DD4814"
diff --git a/.byobu/datetime.tmux b/.byobu/datetime.tmux
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..7b888a7
--- /dev/null
+++ b/.byobu/datetime.tmux
@@ -0,0 +1,2 @@
+BYOBU_DATE="%Y-%m-%d "
+BYOBU_TIME="%H:%M:%S"
diff --git a/.byobu/keybindings b/.byobu/keybindings
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..9d9bbdb
--- /dev/null
+++ b/.byobu/keybindings
@@ -0,0 +1 @@
+source $BYOBU_PREFIX/share/byobu/keybindings/common
diff --git a/.byobu/keybindings.tmux b/.byobu/keybindings.tmux
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..eb3d92e
--- /dev/null
+++ b/.byobu/keybindings.tmux
@@ -0,0 +1,4 @@
+unbind-key -n C-a
+set -g prefix ^A
+set -g prefix2 F12
+bind a send-prefix
diff --git a/.byobu/profile b/.byobu/profile
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..230ac0e
--- /dev/null
+++ b/.byobu/profile
@@ -0,0 +1 @@
+source $BYOBU_PREFIX/share/byobu/profiles/common
diff --git a/.byobu/profile.tmux b/.byobu/profile.tmux
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..9ccca51
--- /dev/null
+++ b/.byobu/profile.tmux
@@ -0,0 +1 @@
+source $BYOBU_PREFIX/share/byobu/profiles/tmux
diff --git a/.byobu/prompt b/.byobu/prompt
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..7b5c6e8
--- /dev/null
+++ b/.byobu/prompt
@@ -0,0 +1,2 @@
+[ -r /usr/share/byobu/profiles/bashrc ] && . /usr/share/byobu/profiles/bashrc #byobu-prompt#
+
diff --git a/.byobu/status b/.byobu/status
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..ac9bd5d
--- /dev/null
+++ b/.byobu/status
@@ -0,0 +1,37 @@
+# status - Byobu's default status enabled/disabled settings
+#
+# Override these in $BYOBU_CONFIG_DIR/status
+# where BYOBU_CONFIG_DIR is XDG_CONFIG_HOME if defined,
+# and $HOME/.byobu otherwise.
+#
+# Copyright (C) 2009-2011 Canonical Ltd.
+#
+# Authors: Dustin Kirkland
+#
+# This program is free software: you can redistribute it and/or modify
+# it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by
+# the Free Software Foundation, version 3 of the License.
+#
+# This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
+# but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
+# MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the
+# GNU General Public License for more details.
+#
+# You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
+# along with this program. If not, see .
+
+# Status beginning with '#' are disabled.
+
+# Screen has two status lines, with 4 quadrants for status
+screen_upper_left="color"
+screen_upper_right="color whoami hostname ip_address menu"
+screen_lower_left="color logo distro release #arch session"
+screen_lower_right="color network #disk_io custom #entropy raid reboot_required updates_available #apport #services #mail users uptime #ec2_cost #rcs_cost #fan_speed #cpu_temp battery wifi_quality #processes load_average cpu_count cpu_freq memory #swap disk #time_utc date time"
+
+# Tmux has one status line, with 2 halves for status
+tmux_left="logo #distro release #arch session"
+# You can have as many tmux right lines below here, and cycle through them using Shift-F5
+tmux_right="#network #disk_io #custom #entropy raid reboot_required updates_available #apport #services #mail #users uptime #ec2_cost #rcs_cost #fan_speed #cpu_temp #battery #wifi_quality #processes load_average cpu_count cpu_freq memory #swap disk #whoami #hostname #ip_address #time_utc date time"
+#tmux_right="network #disk_io #custom entropy raid reboot_required updates_available #apport #services #mail users uptime #ec2_cost #rcs_cost fan_speed cpu_temp battery wifi_quality #processes load_average cpu_count cpu_freq memory #swap #disk whoami hostname ip_address #time_utc date time"
+#tmux_right="network #disk_io custom #entropy raid reboot_required updates_available #apport #services #mail users uptime #ec2_cost #rcs_cost #fan_speed #cpu_temp battery wifi_quality #processes load_average cpu_count cpu_freq memory #swap #disk #whoami #hostname ip_address #time_utc date time"
+#tmux_right="#network disk_io #custom entropy #raid #reboot_required #updates_available #apport #services #mail #users #uptime #ec2_cost #rcs_cost fan_speed cpu_temp #battery #wifi_quality #processes #load_average #cpu_count #cpu_freq #memory #swap whoami hostname ip_address #time_utc disk date time"
diff --git a/.byobu/statusrc b/.byobu/statusrc
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..472e45c
--- /dev/null
+++ b/.byobu/statusrc
@@ -0,0 +1,78 @@
+# statusrc - Byobu's default status configurations
+#
+# Override these in $BYOBU_CONFIG_DIR/statusrc
+# where BYOBU_CONFIG_DIR is XDG_CONFIG_HOME if defined,
+# and $HOME/.byobu otherwise.
+#
+# Copyright (C) 2009-2011 Canonical Ltd.
+#
+# Authors: Dustin Kirkland
+#
+# This program is free software: you can redistribute it and/or modify
+# it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by
+# the Free Software Foundation, version 3 of the License.
+#
+# This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
+# but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
+# MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the
+# GNU General Public License for more details.
+#
+# You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
+# along with this program. If not, see .
+
+# Configurations that you can override; if you leave these commented out,
+# Byobu will try to auto-detect them.
+
+# This should be auto-detected for most distro, but setting it here will save
+# some call to lsb_release and the like.
+#BYOBU_DISTRO=Ubuntu
+
+# Default: depends on the distro (which is either auto-detected, either set
+# via $DISTRO)
+#LOGO="\o/"
+
+# Abbreviate the release to N characters
+# By default, this is disabled. But if you set RELEASE_ABBREVIATED=1
+# and your lsb_release is "precise", only "p" will be displayed
+#RELEASE_ABBREVIATED=1
+
+# Default: /
+#MONITORED_DISK=/
+
+# Minimum disk throughput that triggers the notification (in kB/s)
+# Default: 50
+#DISK_IO_THRESHOLD=50
+
+# Default: eth0
+#MONITORED_NETWORK=eth0
+
+# Unit used for network throughput (either bits per second or bytes per second)
+# Default: bits
+#NETWORK_UNITS=bytes
+
+# Minimum network throughput that triggers the notification (in kbit/s)
+# Default: 20
+#NETWORK_THRESHOLD=20
+
+# You can add an additional source of temperature here
+#MONITORED_TEMP=/proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THM0/temperature
+
+# Default: C
+#TEMP=F
+
+#SERVICES="eucalyptus-nc|NC eucalyptus-cloud|CLC eucalyptus-walrus eucalyptus-cc|CC eucalyptus-sc|SC"
+
+#FAN=$(find /sys -type f -name fan1_input | head -n1)
+
+# You can set this to 1 to report your external/public ip address
+# Default: 0
+#IP_EXTERNAL=0
+
+# The users notification normally counts ssh sessions; set this configuration to '1'
+# to instead count number of distinct users logged onto the system
+# Default: 0
+#USERS_DISTINCT=0
+
+# Set this to zero to hide seconds int the time display
+# Default 1
+#TIME_SECONDS=0
diff --git a/.byobu/windows b/.byobu/windows
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..e69de29
diff --git a/.byobu/windows.tmux b/.byobu/windows.tmux
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..0e6d287
--- /dev/null
+++ b/.byobu/windows.tmux
@@ -0,0 +1 @@
+attach;
diff --git a/.gitconfig b/.gitconfig
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..50164be
--- /dev/null
+++ b/.gitconfig
@@ -0,0 +1,3 @@
+[user]
+ email = zack@tilde.team
+ name = Zachary Dunn
diff --git a/.gitignore b/.gitignore
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..e69de29
diff --git a/.profile b/.profile
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..7c6aab9
--- /dev/null
+++ b/.profile
@@ -0,0 +1,30 @@
+# ~/.profile: executed by the command interpreter for login shells.
+# This file is not read by bash(1), if ~/.bash_profile or ~/.bash_login
+# exists.
+# see /usr/share/doc/bash/examples/startup-files for examples.
+# the files are located in the bash-doc package.
+
+# the default umask is set in /etc/profile; for setting the umask
+# for ssh logins, install and configure the libpam-umask package.
+#umask 022
+
+# if running bash
+if [ -n "$BASH_VERSION" ]; then
+ # include .bashrc if it exists
+ if [ -f "$HOME/.bashrc" ]; then
+ . "$HOME/.bashrc"
+ fi
+fi
+
+# set PATH so it includes user's private bin if it exists
+if [ -d "$HOME/bin" ] ; then
+ PATH="$HOME/bin:$PATH"
+fi
+
+# set PATH so it includes user's private bin if it exists
+if [ -d "$HOME/.local/bin" ] ; then
+ PATH="$HOME/.local/bin:$PATH"
+fi
+
+_byobu_sourced=1 . /usr/bin/byobu-launch 2>/dev/null || true
+
diff --git a/.viminfo b/.viminfo
index 643ad1f..5bf038c 100644
--- a/.viminfo
+++ b/.viminfo
@@ -21,13 +21,13 @@ $:
# Command Line History (newest to oldest):
:x
-|2,0,1566050545,,"x"
+|2,0,1566052755,,"x"
+:qa
+|2,0,1566052561,,"qa"
+:w
+|2,0,1566052181,,"w"
:qallqa
|2,0,1566050543,,"qallqa"
-:w
-|2,0,1566050542,,"w"
-:qa
-|2,0,1566050515,,"qa"
:e ~/.bash_aliases
|2,0,1566050475,,"e ~/.bash_aliases"
:sp .bash_aliases
@@ -233,45 +233,58 @@ $:
# Registers:
"0 LINE 0
- body_begin_file="before_body.template"
-|3,0,0,1,1,0,1565025032,"body_begin_file=\"before_body.template\""
-"1 LINE 0
+ bin/
+|3,0,0,1,1,0,1566052410,"bin/"
+""1 LINE 0
+ *.un~
+ .ssh/
+ .dotfiles/
+ .vim/sessions/
+ bin/
+ gems/
+ work/
+ sent
+ Maildir/
+|3,1,1,1,9,0,1566052754,"*.un~",".ssh/",".dotfiles/",".vim/sessions/","bin/","gems/","work/","sent","Maildir/"
+"2 LINE 0
329 ls
330 history
331 history 5 > build-release
-|3,0,1,1,3,0,1565623688," 329 ls"," 330 history"," 331 history 5 > build-release"
-"2 LINE 0
+|3,0,2,1,3,0,1565623688," 329 ls"," 330 history"," 331 history 5 > build-release"
+"3 LINE 0
## It Worked
`bb` lets your preview the webpage before posting so I verified that it work
-|3,0,2,1,3,0,1565025727,"","## It Worked","`bb` lets your preview the webpage before posting so I verified that it work"
-"3 LINE 0
- as soon as you exit your editor.
-|3,0,3,1,1,0,1565025589,"as soon as you exit your editor."
+|3,0,3,1,3,0,1565025727,"","## It Worked","`bb` lets your preview the webpage before posting so I verified that it work"
"4 LINE 0
- The rest of the text file is a **Markdown** blog post. The process will continue
-|3,0,4,1,1,0,1565025555,"The rest of the text file is a **Markdown** blog post. The process will continue"
+ as soon as you exit your editor.
+|3,0,4,1,1,0,1565025589,"as soon as you exit your editor."
"5 LINE 0
- Title on this line
-|3,0,5,1,1,0,1565025536,"Title on this line"
+ The rest of the text file is a **Markdown** blog post. The process will continue
+|3,0,5,1,1,0,1565025555,"The rest of the text file is a **Markdown** blog post. The process will continue"
"6 LINE 0
-
- You may want to read: How to ~tilde: Getting Started
- for help.
-
-|3,0,9,1,4,0,1564838713," "," You may want to read: How to ~tilde: Getting Started "," for help.","
"
-"a CHAR 0
-
-|3,0,10,0,1,0,1561941720,"
"
+ # set ruby env
+|3,0,9,1,1,0,1564840260,"# set ruby env "
+"a LINE 0
+ *.un~
+ .ssh/
+ .dotfiles/
+ .vim/sessions/
+ bin/
+ gems/
+ work/
+ sent
+ Maildir/
+|3,0,10,1,9,0,1566052754,"*.un~",".ssh/",".dotfiles/",".vim/sessions/","bin/","gems/","work/","sent","Maildir/"
"b CHAR 0
f{a
jkf}i;
€kbjkkw
|3,0,11,0,1,0,1561039196,"f{a
jkf}i;
€kbjkkw"
@@ -456,246 +469,270 @@ $:
"y LINE 0
title: "Index - #{instance_config(:site_name)}",
|3,0,34,1,1,0,1558707855," title: \"Index - #{instance_config(:site_name)}\","
-""- CHAR 0
- /local
-|3,1,36,0,1,0,1566050541,"/local"
+"- CHAR 0
+ bin
+|3,0,36,0,1,0,1566052411,"bin"
# File marks:
'M 10 15 ~/todo-cli/lib/cmdspec.ex
|4,77,10,15,1562265132,"~/todo-cli/lib/cmdspec.ex"
-'0 1 20 ~/.bash_aliases
-|4,48,1,20,1566050545,"~/.bash_aliases"
-'1 1 74 ~/.bash_aliases
-|4,49,1,74,1566050515,"~/.bash_aliases"
-'2 124 0 ~/.bashrc
-|4,50,124,0,1566050444,"~/.bashrc"
-'3 124 0 ~/.bashrc
-|4,51,124,0,1566050444,"~/.bashrc"
-'4 124 0 ~/.bashrc
-|4,52,124,0,1566050444,"~/.bashrc"
-'5 124 0 ~/.bashrc
-|4,53,124,0,1566050444,"~/.bashrc"
-'6 1 0 ~/public_html/blog/index.html
-|4,54,1,0,1566047834,"~/public_html/blog/index.html"
-'7 2 0 ~/public_gopher/gophermap
-|4,55,2,0,1566047820,"~/public_gopher/gophermap"
-'8 3 12 ~/asuka/.gitignore
-|4,56,3,12,1565623723,"~/asuka/.gitignore"
-'9 2 0 ~/asuka/build-release
-|4,57,2,0,1565623705,"~/asuka/build-release"
+'0 1 0 ~/.gitignore
+|4,48,1,0,1566052755,"~/.gitignore"
+'1 1 0 ~/.gitconfig
+|4,49,1,0,1566052561,"~/.gitconfig"
+'2 9 7 ~/.gitignore
+|4,50,9,7,1566052432,"~/.gitignore"
+'3 1 4 ~/.gitignore
+|4,51,1,4,1566052418,"~/.gitignore"
+'4 1 4 ~/.gitignore
+|4,52,1,4,1566052418,"~/.gitignore"
+'5 7 4 ~/.gitignore
+|4,53,7,4,1566052418,"~/.gitignore"
+'6 7 4 ~/.gitignore
+|4,54,7,4,1566052418,"~/.gitignore"
+'7 1 13 ~/.gitignore
+|4,55,1,13,1566052351,"~/.gitignore"
+'8 1 13 ~/.gitignore
+|4,56,1,13,1566052351,"~/.gitignore"
+'9 1 13 ~/.gitignore
+|4,57,1,13,1566052351,"~/.gitignore"
# Jumplist (newest first):
--' 1 20 ~/.bash_aliases
-|4,39,1,20,1566050545,"~/.bash_aliases"
--' 1 74 ~/.bash_aliases
-|4,39,1,74,1566050515,"~/.bash_aliases"
--' 123 27 ~/.bashrc
-|4,39,123,27,1566050475,"~/.bashrc"
--' 123 27 ~/.bashrc
-|4,39,123,27,1566050475,"~/.bashrc"
--' 1 0 ~/.bashrc
-|4,39,1,0,1566050451,"~/.bashrc"
--' 1 0 ~/.bashrc
-|4,39,1,0,1566050451,"~/.bashrc"
--' 124 0 ~/.bashrc
-|4,39,124,0,1566050444,"~/.bashrc"
--' 124 0 ~/.bashrc
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--' 1 0 ~/public_gopher/gophermap
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--' 3 12 ~/asuka/.gitignore
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-|4,39,3,12,1565623723,"~/asuka/.gitignore"
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-|4,39,3,12,1565623723,"~/asuka/.gitignore"
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--' 1 0 ~/asuka/.gitignore
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--' 1 0 ~/asuka/.gitignore
-|4,39,1,0,1565623717,"~/asuka/.gitignore"
+-' 1 0 ~/.gitignore
+|4,39,1,0,1566052755,"~/.gitignore"
+-' 1 0 ~/.gitconfig
+|4,39,1,0,1566052561,"~/.gitconfig"
+-' 1 0 ~/.gitconfig
+|4,39,1,0,1566052561,"~/.gitconfig"
+-' 9 7 ~/.gitignore
+|4,39,9,7,1566052432,"~/.gitignore"
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+|4,39,9,7,1566052432,"~/.gitignore"
+-' 1 0 ~/.gitignore
+|4,39,1,0,1566052425,"~/.gitignore"
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+|4,39,1,0,1566052425,"~/.gitignore"
+-' 7 4 ~/.gitignore
+|4,39,7,4,1566052418,"~/.gitignore"
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+|4,39,7,4,1566052418,"~/.gitignore"
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+|4,39,7,4,1566052418,"~/.gitignore"
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+|4,39,7,4,1566052418,"~/.gitignore"
+-' 1 0 ~/.gitignore
+|4,39,1,0,1566052406,"~/.gitignore"
+-' 1 0 ~/.gitignore
+|4,39,1,0,1566052406,"~/.gitignore"
+-' 4 13 ~/.gitignore
+|4,39,4,13,1566052351,"~/.gitignore"
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+|4,39,4,13,1566052351,"~/.gitignore"
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+|4,39,4,13,1566052351,"~/.gitignore"
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+|4,39,4,13,1566052351,"~/.gitignore"
+-' 4 13 ~/.gitignore
+|4,39,4,13,1566052351,"~/.gitignore"
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+|4,39,4,13,1566052351,"~/.gitignore"
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+|4,39,1,0,1566052334,"~/.gitignore"
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+|4,39,1,0,1566052334,"~/.gitignore"
+-' 3 9 ~/.gitignore
+|4,39,3,9,1566052266,"~/.gitignore"
+-' 3 9 ~/.gitignore
+|4,39,3,9,1566052266,"~/.gitignore"
+-' 3 9 ~/.gitignore
+|4,39,3,9,1566052266,"~/.gitignore"
+-' 3 9 ~/.gitignore
+|4,39,3,9,1566052266,"~/.gitignore"
+-' 3 9 ~/.gitignore
+|4,39,3,9,1566052266,"~/.gitignore"
+-' 3 9 ~/.gitignore
+|4,39,3,9,1566052266,"~/.gitignore"
+-' 3 9 ~/.gitignore
+|4,39,3,9,1566052266,"~/.gitignore"
+-' 3 9 ~/.gitignore
+|4,39,3,9,1566052266,"~/.gitignore"
+-' 1 0 ~/.gitignore
+|4,39,1,0,1566052262,"~/.gitignore"
+-' 1 0 ~/.gitignore
+|4,39,1,0,1566052262,"~/.gitignore"
+-' 2 4 ~/.gitignore
+|4,39,2,4,1566052245,"~/.gitignore"
+-' 2 4 ~/.gitignore
+|4,39,2,4,1566052245,"~/.gitignore"
+-' 2 4 ~/.gitignore
+|4,39,2,4,1566052245,"~/.gitignore"
+-' 2 4 ~/.gitignore
+|4,39,2,4,1566052245,"~/.gitignore"
+-' 2 4 ~/.gitignore
+|4,39,2,4,1566052245,"~/.gitignore"
+-' 2 4 ~/.gitignore
+|4,39,2,4,1566052245,"~/.gitignore"
+-' 2 4 ~/.gitignore
+|4,39,2,4,1566052245,"~/.gitignore"
+-' 2 4 ~/.gitignore
+|4,39,2,4,1566052245,"~/.gitignore"
+-' 2 4 ~/.gitignore
+|4,39,2,4,1566052245,"~/.gitignore"
+-' 2 4 ~/.gitignore
+|4,39,2,4,1566052245,"~/.gitignore"
+-' 1 0 ~/.gitignore
+|4,39,1,0,1566052237,"~/.gitignore"
+-' 1 0 ~/.gitignore
+|4,39,1,0,1566052237,"~/.gitignore"
+-' 1 4 ~/.gitignore
+|4,39,1,4,1566052194,"~/.gitignore"
+-' 1 4 ~/.gitignore
+|4,39,1,4,1566052194,"~/.gitignore"
+-' 1 3 ~/.gitignore
+|4,39,1,3,1566052182,"~/.gitignore"
+-' 1 3 ~/.gitignore
+|4,39,1,3,1566052182,"~/.gitignore"
+-' 1 0 ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
+|4,39,1,0,1566051784,"~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub"
+-' 1 0 ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
+|4,39,1,0,1566051784,"~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub"
+-' 1 0 ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
+|4,39,1,0,1566051784,"~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub"
+-' 1 0 ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
+|4,39,1,0,1566051784,"~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub"
+-' 1 0 ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
+|4,39,1,0,1566051784,"~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub"
+-' 1 0 ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
+|4,39,1,0,1566051784,"~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub"
+-' 1 0 ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
+|4,39,1,0,1566051784,"~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub"
+-' 1 0 ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
+|4,39,1,0,1566051784,"~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub"
+-' 1 0 ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
+|4,39,1,0,1566051784,"~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub"
+-' 1 0 ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
+|4,39,1,0,1566051784,"~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub"
+-' 1 0 ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
+|4,39,1,0,1566051784,"~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub"
+-' 1 0 ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
+|4,39,1,0,1566051784,"~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub"
+-' 1 0 ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
+|4,39,1,0,1566051784,"~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub"
+-' 1 0 ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
+|4,39,1,0,1566051784,"~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub"
+-' 1 0 ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
+|4,39,1,0,1566051784,"~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub"
+-' 1 0 ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
+|4,39,1,0,1566051784,"~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub"
+-' 1 0 ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
+|4,39,1,0,1566051784,"~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub"
+-' 1 0 ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
+|4,39,1,0,1566051784,"~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub"
+-' 1 0 ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
+|4,39,1,0,1566051784,"~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub"
+-' 1 0 ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
+|4,39,1,0,1566051784,"~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub"
+-' 1 0 ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
+|4,39,1,0,1566051784,"~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub"
+-' 1 0 ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
+|4,39,1,0,1566051784,"~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub"
+-' 1 0 ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
+|4,39,1,0,1566051784,"~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub"
+-' 1 0 ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
+|4,39,1,0,1566051784,"~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub"
+-' 1 0 ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
+|4,39,1,0,1566051784,"~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub"
+-' 1 0 ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
+|4,39,1,0,1566051784,"~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub"
+-' 1 0 ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
+|4,39,1,0,1566051784,"~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub"
+-' 1 0 ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
+|4,39,1,0,1566051784,"~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub"
+-' 1 0 ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
+|4,39,1,0,1566051784,"~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub"
+-' 1 0 ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
+|4,39,1,0,1566051784,"~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub"
+-' 1 0 ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
+|4,39,1,0,1566051784,"~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub"
+-' 1 0 ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
+|4,39,1,0,1566051784,"~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub"
+-' 1 0 ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
+|4,39,1,0,1566051784,"~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub"
+-' 1 0 ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
+|4,39,1,0,1566051784,"~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub"
+-' 1 0 ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
+|4,39,1,0,1566051784,"~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub"
+-' 1 0 ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
+|4,39,1,0,1566051784,"~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub"
+-' 1 0 ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
+|4,39,1,0,1566051784,"~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub"
+-' 1 0 ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
+|4,39,1,0,1566051784,"~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub"
+-' 1 0 ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
+|4,39,1,0,1566051784,"~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub"
+-' 1 0 ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
+|4,39,1,0,1566051784,"~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub"
+-' 1 0 ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
+|4,39,1,0,1566051784,"~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub"
+-' 1 0 ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
+|4,39,1,0,1566051784,"~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub"
+-' 1 0 ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
+|4,39,1,0,1566051784,"~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub"
+-' 1 0 ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
+|4,39,1,0,1566051784,"~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub"
+-' 1 0 ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
+|4,39,1,0,1566051784,"~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub"
+-' 1 0 ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
+|4,39,1,0,1566051784,"~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub"
+-' 1 0 ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
+|4,39,1,0,1566051784,"~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub"
+-' 1 0 ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
+|4,39,1,0,1566051784,"~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub"
+-' 1 0 ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
+|4,39,1,0,1566051784,"~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub"
+-' 1 0 ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
+|4,39,1,0,1566051784,"~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub"
+-' 1 0 ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
+|4,39,1,0,1566051784,"~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub"
+-' 1 0 ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
+|4,39,1,0,1566051784,"~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub"
+-' 1 0 ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
+|4,39,1,0,1566051784,"~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub"
# History of marks within files (newest to oldest):
-> ~/.bash_aliases
- * 1566050543 0
- " 1 20
- ^ 1 80
- . 1 20
- + 1 20
+> ~/.gitignore
+ * 1566052754 0
+ " 1 0
+ . 1 0
+ + 1 4
+ + 1 9
+ + 1 13
+ + 1 3
+ + 1 4
+ + 1 3
+ + 1 0
+
+> ~/.gitconfig
+ * 1566052557 0
+ " 1 0
+
+> ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
+ * 1566051783 0
+ " 1 0
+ ^ 1 0
+
+> ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
+ * 1566051667 0
+ " 1 0
+ ^ 3 380
+ . 3 301
+ + 2 375
+ + 3 301
> ~/.bashrc
- * 1566050468 0
- " 123 27
+ * 1566050739 0
+ " 124 0
^ 124 28
. 124 27
+ 125 0
@@ -711,6 +748,17 @@ $:
+ 126 20
+ 124 27
+> ~/.vimtags
+ * 1566050710 0
+ " 1 0
+
+> ~/.bash_aliases
+ * 1566050543 0
+ " 1 20
+ ^ 1 80
+ . 1 20
+ + 1 20
+
> ~/public_html/blog/index.html
* 1566047828 0
" 1 0
@@ -819,14 +867,6 @@ $:
* 1565443098 0
" 1 0
-> ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
- * 1565442811 0
- " 3 379
- ^ 3 380
- . 3 301
- + 2 375
- + 3 301
-
> ~/public_html/blog/.config
* 1565026390 0
" 1 0
@@ -3275,19 +3315,3 @@ $:
> ~/fawkes/bin/output2/84.json
* 1562341262 0
" 1 0
-
-> ~/fawkes/bin/output2/82.json
- * 1562341257 0
- " 1 0
-
-> ~/fawkes/bin/output2/79.json
- * 1562341060 0
- " 1 0
-
-> ~/fawkes/bin/output2/78.json
- * 1562341056 0
- " 1 0
-
-> ~/fawkes/bin/parse_posts.js
- * 1562340985 0
- " 28 50
diff --git a/.weechat/alias.conf b/.weechat/alias.conf
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..b94f415
--- /dev/null
+++ b/.weechat/alias.conf
@@ -0,0 +1,57 @@
+#
+# weechat -- alias.conf
+#
+# WARNING: It is NOT recommended to edit this file by hand,
+# especially if WeeChat is running.
+#
+# Use /set or similar command to change settings in WeeChat.
+#
+# For more info, see: https://weechat.org/doc/quickstart
+#
+
+[cmd]
+AAWAY = "allserv /away"
+AME = "allchan /me"
+AMSG = "allchan /msg *"
+ANICK = "allserv /nick"
+BEEP = "print -beep"
+BS = "quote botserv"
+BYE = "quit"
+C = "buffer clear"
+CHAT = "dcc chat"
+CL = "buffer clear"
+CLOSE = "buffer close"
+CS = "quote chanserv"
+EXIT = "quit"
+HS = "quote hostserv"
+IG = "ignore"
+J = "join"
+K = "kick"
+KB = "kickban"
+LEAVE = "part"
+M = "msg"
+MS = "quote memoserv"
+MSGBUF = "command -buffer $1 * /input send $2-"
+MUB = "unban *"
+N = "names"
+NS = "quote nickserv"
+OS = "quote operserv"
+Q = "query"
+REDRAW = "window refresh"
+save_settings = "/autojoin --run;/layout store;/save"
+SAY = "msg *"
+setup_aspell = "/set weechat.bar.rootinput.items [input_prompt]+(away),[input_search],[input_paste],input_text,aspell_suggest;/set aspell.check.default_dict en_US;/set aspell.check.suggestions 4;/set aspell.check.enabled on;/unalias setup_aspell;/save"
+SIGNOFF = "quit"
+SLAP = "me slaps $1 around a bit with a large trout"
+T = "topic"
+UB = "unban"
+UMODE = "mode $nick"
+V = "command core version"
+W = "who"
+WC = "window merge"
+WI = "whois"
+WII = "whois $1 $1"
+WW = "whowas"
+
+[completion]
+MSGBUF = "%(buffers_plugins_names)"
diff --git a/.weechat/aspell.conf b/.weechat/aspell.conf
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..aa0bd00
--- /dev/null
+++ b/.weechat/aspell.conf
@@ -0,0 +1,20 @@
+#
+# aspell.conf -- weechat v1.0.1
+#
+
+[color]
+misspelled = lightred
+suggestions = default
+
+[check]
+commands = "ame,amsg,away,command,cycle,kick,kickban,me,msg,notice,part,query,quit,topic"
+default_dict = ""
+during_search = off
+enabled = off
+real_time = off
+suggestions = -1
+word_min_length = 2
+
+[dict]
+
+[option]
diff --git a/.weechat/buflist.conf b/.weechat/buflist.conf
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..6c30f88
--- /dev/null
+++ b/.weechat/buflist.conf
@@ -0,0 +1,39 @@
+#
+# weechat -- buflist.conf
+#
+# WARNING: It is NOT recommended to edit this file by hand,
+# especially if WeeChat is running.
+#
+# Use /set or similar command to change settings in WeeChat.
+#
+# For more info, see: https://weechat.org/doc/quickstart
+#
+
+[look]
+add_newline = on
+auto_scroll = 50
+display_conditions = "${buffer.hidden}==0"
+enabled = on
+mouse_jump_visited_buffer = off
+mouse_move_buffer = on
+mouse_wheel = on
+nick_prefix = off
+nick_prefix_empty = on
+signals_refresh = ""
+sort = "number,-active"
+
+[format]
+buffer = "${format_number}${indent}${format_nick_prefix}${color_hotlist}${name}"
+buffer_current = "${color:,233}${format_number}${indent}${format_nick_prefix}${color:lightcyan}${name}"
+hotlist = " ${color:green}(${hotlist}${color:green})"
+hotlist_highlight = "${color:magenta}"
+hotlist_low = "${color:default}"
+hotlist_message = "${color:130}"
+hotlist_none = "${color:white}"
+hotlist_private = "${color:cyan}"
+hotlist_separator = "${color:default},"
+indent = " "
+lag = " ${color:green}[${color:brown}${lag}${color:green}]"
+name = "${name}"
+nick_prefix = "${color_nick_prefix}${nick_prefix}"
+number = "${color:green}${number}${if:${number_displayed}?.: }"
diff --git a/.weechat/charset.conf b/.weechat/charset.conf
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..00d304c
--- /dev/null
+++ b/.weechat/charset.conf
@@ -0,0 +1,18 @@
+#
+# weechat -- charset.conf
+#
+# WARNING: It is NOT recommended to edit this file by hand,
+# especially if WeeChat is running.
+#
+# Use /set or similar command to change settings in WeeChat.
+#
+# For more info, see: https://weechat.org/doc/quickstart
+#
+
+[default]
+decode = "iso-8859-1"
+encode = ""
+
+[decode]
+
+[encode]
diff --git a/.weechat/exec.conf b/.weechat/exec.conf
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..db02a5b
--- /dev/null
+++ b/.weechat/exec.conf
@@ -0,0 +1,19 @@
+#
+# weechat -- exec.conf
+#
+# WARNING: It is NOT recommended to edit this file by hand,
+# especially if WeeChat is running.
+#
+# Use /set or similar command to change settings in WeeChat.
+#
+# For more info, see: https://weechat.org/doc/quickstart
+#
+
+[command]
+default_options = ""
+purge_delay = 0
+shell = "sh"
+
+[color]
+flag_finished = lightred
+flag_running = lightgreen
diff --git a/.weechat/fifo.conf b/.weechat/fifo.conf
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..904985d
--- /dev/null
+++ b/.weechat/fifo.conf
@@ -0,0 +1,14 @@
+#
+# weechat -- fifo.conf
+#
+# WARNING: It is NOT recommended to edit this file by hand,
+# especially if WeeChat is running.
+#
+# Use /set or similar command to change settings in WeeChat.
+#
+# For more info, see: https://weechat.org/doc/quickstart
+#
+
+[file]
+enabled = on
+path = "%h/weechat_fifo"
diff --git a/.weechat/fset.conf b/.weechat/fset.conf
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..668266c
--- /dev/null
+++ b/.weechat/fset.conf
@@ -0,0 +1,95 @@
+#
+# weechat -- fset.conf
+#
+# WARNING: It is NOT recommended to edit this file by hand,
+# especially if WeeChat is running.
+#
+# Use /set or similar command to change settings in WeeChat.
+#
+# For more info, see: https://weechat.org/doc/quickstart
+#
+
+[look]
+auto_unmark = off
+condition_catch_set = "${count} >= 1"
+export_help_default = on
+format_number = 1
+marked_string = "*"
+scroll_horizontal = 10
+show_plugins_desc = off
+sort = "~name"
+unmarked_string = " "
+use_color_value = off
+use_keys = on
+use_mute = off
+
+[format]
+export_help = "# ${description2}"
+export_option = "/set ${name} ${quoted_value}"
+export_option_null = "/unset ${name}"
+option1 = ""
+option2 = "${marked} ${name} ${type} ${value2}${newline} ${empty_name} ${_default_value}${color:darkgray} -- ${min}..${max}${newline} ${empty_name} ${description}"
+
+[color]
+default_value = default
+default_value_selected = white
+description = default
+description_selected = white
+file = default
+file_changed = brown
+file_changed_selected = yellow
+file_selected = white
+help_default_value = white
+help_description = default
+help_name = white
+help_quotes = darkgray
+help_values = default
+index = cyan
+index_selected = lightcyan
+line_marked_bg1 = default
+line_marked_bg2 = default
+line_selected_bg1 = blue
+line_selected_bg2 = red
+marked = brown
+marked_selected = yellow
+max = default
+max_selected = white
+min = default
+min_selected = white
+name = default
+name_changed = brown
+name_changed_selected = yellow
+name_selected = white
+option = default
+option_changed = brown
+option_changed_selected = yellow
+option_selected = white
+parent_name = default
+parent_name_selected = white
+parent_value = cyan
+parent_value_selected = lightcyan
+quotes = darkgray
+quotes_changed = default
+quotes_changed_selected = white
+quotes_selected = default
+section = default
+section_changed = brown
+section_changed_selected = yellow
+section_selected = white
+string_values = default
+string_values_selected = white
+title_count_options = cyan
+title_current_option = lightcyan
+title_filter = yellow
+title_marked_options = lightgreen
+title_sort = white
+type = green
+type_selected = lightgreen
+unmarked = default
+unmarked_selected = white
+value = cyan
+value_changed = brown
+value_changed_selected = yellow
+value_selected = lightcyan
+value_undef = magenta
+value_undef_selected = lightmagenta
diff --git a/.weechat/irc.conf b/.weechat/irc.conf
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..1f35110
--- /dev/null
+++ b/.weechat/irc.conf
@@ -0,0 +1,195 @@
+#
+# weechat -- irc.conf
+#
+# WARNING: It is NOT recommended to edit this file by hand,
+# especially if WeeChat is running.
+#
+# Use /set or similar command to change settings in WeeChat.
+#
+# For more info, see: https://weechat.org/doc/quickstart
+#
+
+[look]
+buffer_open_before_autojoin = on
+buffer_open_before_join = off
+buffer_switch_autojoin = on
+buffer_switch_join = on
+color_nicks_in_names = off
+color_nicks_in_nicklist = on
+color_nicks_in_server_messages = on
+color_pv_nick_like_channel = on
+ctcp_time_format = "%a, %d %b %Y %T %z"
+display_away = local
+display_ctcp_blocked = on
+display_ctcp_reply = on
+display_ctcp_unknown = on
+display_host_join = on
+display_host_join_local = on
+display_host_quit = on
+display_join_message = "329,332,333,366"
+display_old_topic = on
+display_pv_away_once = on
+display_pv_back = on
+highlight_channel = "$nick"
+highlight_pv = "$nick"
+highlight_server = "$nick"
+highlight_tags_restrict = "irc_privmsg,irc_notice"
+item_channel_modes_hide_args = "k"
+item_display_server = buffer_plugin
+item_nick_modes = on
+item_nick_prefix = on
+join_auto_add_chantype = off
+msgbuffer_fallback = current
+new_channel_position = none
+new_pv_position = none
+nick_completion_smart = speakers
+nick_mode = prefix
+nick_mode_empty = off
+nicks_hide_password = "nickserv"
+notice_as_pv = auto
+notice_welcome_redirect = on
+notice_welcome_tags = ""
+notify_tags_ison = "notify_message"
+notify_tags_whois = "notify_message"
+part_closes_buffer = off
+pv_buffer = independent
+pv_tags = "notify_private"
+raw_messages = 256
+server_buffer = merge_with_core
+smart_filter = on
+smart_filter_chghost = on
+smart_filter_delay = 5
+smart_filter_join = on
+smart_filter_join_unmask = 30
+smart_filter_mode = "+"
+smart_filter_nick = on
+smart_filter_quit = on
+temporary_servers = off
+topic_strip_colors = off
+
+[color]
+input_nick = lightcyan
+item_channel_modes = lightcyan
+item_lag_counting = default
+item_lag_finished = 130
+item_nick_modes = lightgreen
+message_chghost = brown
+message_join = green
+message_quit = red
+mirc_remap = "1,-1:darkgray"
+nick_prefixes = "q:lightred;a:lightcyan;o:lightgreen;h:lightmagenta;v:yellow;*:lightblue"
+notice = green
+reason_quit = default
+topic_current = default
+topic_new = white
+topic_old = default
+
+[network]
+autoreconnect_delay_growing = 2
+autoreconnect_delay_max = 600
+ban_mask_default = "*!$ident@$host"
+channel_encode = off
+colors_receive = on
+colors_send = on
+lag_check = 60
+lag_max = 1800
+lag_min_show = 500
+lag_reconnect = 0
+lag_refresh_interval = 1
+notify_check_ison = 1
+notify_check_whois = 5
+sasl_fail_unavailable = on
+send_unknown_commands = off
+whois_double_nick = off
+
+[msgbuffer]
+
+[ctcp]
+
+[ignore]
+
+[server_default]
+addresses = ""
+anti_flood_prio_high = 2
+anti_flood_prio_low = 2
+autoconnect = off
+autojoin = ""
+autoreconnect = on
+autoreconnect_delay = 10
+autorejoin = off
+autorejoin_delay = 30
+away_check = 0
+away_check_max_nicks = 25
+capabilities = "account-notify,away-notify,cap-notify,chghost,extended-join,invite-notify,multi-prefix,server-time,userhost-in-names"
+command = ""
+command_delay = 0
+connection_timeout = 60
+ipv6 = on
+local_hostname = ""
+msg_kick = ""
+msg_part = "WeeChat ${info:version}"
+msg_quit = "WeeChat ${info:version}"
+nicks = "zack,zack1,zack2,zack3,zack4"
+nicks_alternate = on
+notify = ""
+password = ""
+proxy = ""
+realname = ""
+sasl_fail = continue
+sasl_key = ""
+sasl_mechanism = plain
+sasl_password = ""
+sasl_timeout = 15
+sasl_username = ""
+split_msg_max_length = 512
+ssl = off
+ssl_cert = ""
+ssl_dhkey_size = 2048
+ssl_fingerprint = ""
+ssl_priorities = "NORMAL"
+ssl_verify = on
+usermode = ""
+username = "${env:USER}"
+
+[server]
+tilde.addresses = "localhost"
+tilde.proxy
+tilde.ipv6
+tilde.ssl
+tilde.ssl_cert
+tilde.ssl_priorities
+tilde.ssl_dhkey_size
+tilde.ssl_fingerprint
+tilde.ssl_verify
+tilde.password
+tilde.capabilities
+tilde.sasl_mechanism
+tilde.sasl_username
+tilde.sasl_password
+tilde.sasl_key
+tilde.sasl_timeout
+tilde.sasl_fail
+tilde.autoconnect = on
+tilde.autoreconnect
+tilde.autoreconnect_delay
+tilde.nicks
+tilde.nicks_alternate
+tilde.username
+tilde.realname
+tilde.local_hostname
+tilde.usermode
+tilde.command
+tilde.command_delay
+tilde.autojoin = "#meta,#team"
+tilde.autorejoin
+tilde.autorejoin_delay
+tilde.connection_timeout
+tilde.anti_flood_prio_high
+tilde.anti_flood_prio_low
+tilde.away_check
+tilde.away_check_max_nicks
+tilde.msg_kick
+tilde.msg_part
+tilde.msg_quit
+tilde.notify
+tilde.split_msg_max_length
diff --git a/.weechat/iset.conf b/.weechat/iset.conf
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..e8d0cbf
--- /dev/null
+++ b/.weechat/iset.conf
@@ -0,0 +1,37 @@
+#
+# weechat -- iset.conf
+#
+# WARNING: It is NOT recommended to edit this file by hand,
+# especially if WeeChat is running.
+#
+# Use /set or similar command to change settings in WeeChat.
+#
+# For more info, see: https://weechat.org/doc/quickstart
+#
+
+[color]
+bg_selected = 235
+help_default_value = green
+help_option_name = white
+help_text = lightcyan
+option = default
+option_selected = white
+type = brown
+type_selected = 130
+value = cyan
+value_diff = magenta
+value_diff_selected = lightmagenta
+value_selected = lightcyan
+value_undef = green
+value_undef_selected = lightgreen
+
+[help]
+show_help_bar = on
+show_help_extra_info = on
+show_plugin_description = off
+
+[look]
+scroll_horiz = 10
+show_current_line = on
+use_mute = off
+value_search_char = "="
diff --git a/.weechat/logger.conf b/.weechat/logger.conf
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..b7b5efc
--- /dev/null
+++ b/.weechat/logger.conf
@@ -0,0 +1,35 @@
+#
+# weechat -- logger.conf
+#
+# WARNING: It is NOT recommended to edit this file by hand,
+# especially if WeeChat is running.
+#
+# Use /set or similar command to change settings in WeeChat.
+#
+# For more info, see: https://weechat.org/doc/quickstart
+#
+
+[look]
+backlog = 20
+backlog_conditions = ""
+
+[color]
+backlog_end = default
+backlog_line = default
+
+[file]
+auto_log = on
+flush_delay = 120
+fsync = off
+info_lines = off
+mask = "$plugin.$name.weechatlog"
+name_lower_case = on
+nick_prefix = ""
+nick_suffix = ""
+path = "%h/logs/"
+replacement_char = "_"
+time_format = "%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S"
+
+[level]
+
+[mask]
diff --git a/.weechat/logs/core.weechat.weechatlog b/.weechat/logs/core.weechat.weechatlog
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..b66233c
--- /dev/null
+++ b/.weechat/logs/core.weechat.weechatlog
@@ -0,0 +1,589 @@
+2019-08-02 13:59:10 =!= spell: warning: the plugin "aspell" has been renamed to "spell" and the file /home/zack/.weechat/aspell.conf still exists (but not /home/zack/.weechat/spell.conf); if you upgraded from an older version, you should check instructions in release notes (version 2.5) to recover your settings
+2019-08-02 13:59:10 New key binding (context "default"): meta2-1;5P => /bar scroll buflist * -100%
+2019-08-02 13:59:10 New key binding (context "default"): meta2-1;5Q => /bar scroll buflist * +100%
+2019-08-02 13:59:10 New key binding (context "default"): meta-meta-OQ => /bar scroll buflist * e
+2019-08-02 13:59:10 New key binding (context "default"): meta2-1;3Q => /bar scroll buflist * e
+2019-08-02 13:59:10 New key binding (context "default"): meta2-1;3P => /bar scroll buflist * b
+2019-08-02 13:59:10 New key binding (context "default"): meta-meta-OP => /bar scroll buflist * b
+2019-08-02 13:59:10 New key binding (context "default"): meta-OQ => /bar scroll buflist * +100%
+2019-08-02 13:59:10 New key binding (context "default"): meta-OP => /bar scroll buflist * -100%
+2019-08-02 13:59:10 New key binding (context "default"): meta-meta2-12~ => /bar scroll buflist * e
+2019-08-02 13:59:10 New key binding (context "default"): meta-meta2-11~ => /bar scroll buflist * b
+2019-08-02 13:59:10 New key binding (context "default"): meta2-12^ => /bar scroll buflist * +100%
+2019-08-02 13:59:10 New key binding (context "default"): meta2-12~ => /bar scroll buflist * +100%
+2019-08-02 13:59:10 New key binding (context "default"): meta2-11^ => /bar scroll buflist * -100%
+2019-08-02 13:59:10 New key binding (context "default"): meta2-11~ => /bar scroll buflist * -100%
+2019-08-02 13:59:10 =!= Warning: /home/zack/.weechat/xfer.conf, line 26: unknown option for section "network": speed_limit = 0
+2019-08-02 13:59:10 =!= Warning: /home/zack/.weechat/irc.conf, line 28: unknown option for section "look": item_away_message = on
+2019-08-02 13:59:10 =!= Warning: /home/zack/.weechat/irc.conf, line 37: unknown option for section "look": nick_color_force = ""
+2019-08-02 13:59:10 =!= Warning: /home/zack/.weechat/irc.conf, line 38: unknown option for section "look": nick_color_hash = sum
+2019-08-02 13:59:10 =!= Warning: /home/zack/.weechat/irc.conf, line 39: unknown option for section "look": nick_color_stop_chars = "_|["
+2019-08-02 13:59:10 =!= Warning: /home/zack/.weechat/irc.conf, line 65: unknown option for section "color": item_away = 130
+2019-08-02 13:59:10 =!= Warning: /home/zack/.weechat/irc.conf, line 117: unknown option for section "server_default": default_msg_kick = ""
+2019-08-02 13:59:10 =!= Warning: /home/zack/.weechat/irc.conf, line 118: unknown option for section "server_default": default_msg_part = "WeeChat %v"
+2019-08-02 13:59:10 =!= Warning: /home/zack/.weechat/irc.conf, line 119: unknown option for section "server_default": default_msg_quit = "WeeChat %v"
+2019-08-02 13:59:10 =!= irc: error creating server option "tilde.default_msg_kick"
+2019-08-02 13:59:10 =!= Warning: /home/zack/.weechat/irc.conf, line 171: invalid value for option: tilde.default_msg_kick
+2019-08-02 13:59:10 =!= irc: error creating server option "tilde.default_msg_part"
+2019-08-02 13:59:10 =!= Warning: /home/zack/.weechat/irc.conf, line 172: invalid value for option: tilde.default_msg_part
+2019-08-02 13:59:10 =!= irc: error creating server option "tilde.default_msg_quit"
+2019-08-02 13:59:10 =!= Warning: /home/zack/.weechat/irc.conf, line 173: invalid value for option: tilde.default_msg_quit
+2019-08-02 13:59:10 perl scripts loaded: highmon, iset
+2019-08-02 13:59:10 python: stdout/stderr (?): Traceback (most recent call last):
+2019-08-02 13:59:10 python: stdout/stderr (?): File "/home/zack/.weechat/python/autoload/otr.py", line 127, in
+2019-08-02 13:59:10 python: stdout/stderr (?): import potr
+2019-08-02 13:59:10 python: stdout/stderr (?): ImportError: No module named potr
+2019-08-02 13:59:10 =!= python: unable to parse file "/home/zack/.weechat/python/autoload/otr.py"
+2019-08-02 13:59:10 =!= python: function "register" not found (or failed) in file "/home/zack/.weechat/python/autoload/urlview.py"
+2019-08-02 13:59:10 python scripts loaded: apply_corrections, autojoin, grep
+2019-08-02 13:59:10 =!= Warning: /home/zack/.weechat/script.conf, line 50: unknown option for section "scripts": url_force_https = on
+2019-08-02 13:59:10 script: downloading list of scripts...
+2019-08-02 13:59:10 Plugins loaded: alias, buflist, charset, exec, fifo, fset, irc, logger, perl, python, relay, ruby, script, spell, trigger, xfer
+2019-08-02 13:59:12 script: 363 scripts for WeeChat 2.5
+2019-08-02 15:03:35 python: scripts unloaded
+2019-08-02 15:03:35 fifo: pipe closed
+2019-08-02 15:24:41 perl scripts loaded: highmon, iset
+2019-08-02 15:24:41 python: stdout/stderr (?): Traceback (most recent call last):
+2019-08-02 15:24:41 python: stdout/stderr (?): File "/home/zack/.weechat/python/autoload/otr.py", line 127, in
+2019-08-02 15:24:41 python: stdout/stderr (?): import potr
+2019-08-02 15:24:41 python: stdout/stderr (?): ImportError: No module named potr
+2019-08-02 15:24:41 =!= python: unable to parse file "/home/zack/.weechat/python/autoload/otr.py"
+2019-08-02 15:24:41 =!= python: function "register" not found (or failed) in file "/home/zack/.weechat/python/autoload/urlview.py"
+2019-08-02 15:24:41 python scripts loaded: apply_corrections, autojoin, grep
+2019-08-02 15:24:41 script: 363 scripts for WeeChat 2.5
+2019-08-02 15:24:41 Plugins loaded: alias, buflist, charset, exec, fifo, fset, irc, logger, perl, python, relay, ruby, script, spell, trigger, xfer
+2019-08-02 16:17:42 python: scripts unloaded
+2019-08-02 16:17:42 fifo: pipe closed
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+2019-08-03 17:35:57 alias ANICK BYE CL EXIT J LEAVE MSGBUF NS REDRAW setup_aspell T V WI
+2019-08-03 17:35:57 AME BEEP C CLOSE HS K M MUB OS save_settings SIGNOFF UB W WII
+2019-08-03 17:36:19 =!= irc: unable to add temporary server "irc.freenode.net" because the addition of temporary servers with command /connect is currently disabled
+2019-08-03 17:36:19 =!= irc: if you want to add a standard server, use the command "/server add" (see /help server); if you really want to add a temporary server (NOT SAVED), turn on the option irc.look.temporary_servers
+2019-08-03 17:36:34 [irc] /server list|listfull []
+2019-08-03 17:36:34 add [/] [-temp] [-[=]] [-no]
+2019-08-03 17:36:34 copy|rename
+2019-08-03 17:36:34 reorder [...]
+2019-08-03 17:36:34 open |-all [...]
+2019-08-03 17:36:34 del|keep
+2019-08-03 17:36:34 deloutq|jump|raw
+2019-08-03 17:36:34 list, add or remove IRC servers
+2019-08-03 17:36:34 list: list servers (without argument, this list is displayed)
+2019-08-03 17:36:34 listfull: list servers with detailed info for each server
+2019-08-03 17:36:34 add: add a new server
+2019-08-03 17:36:34 name: server name, for internal and display use; this name is used to connect to the server (/connect name) and to set server options: irc.server.name.xxx
+2019-08-03 17:36:34 hostname: name or IP address of server, with optional port (default: 6667), many addresses can be separated by a comma
+2019-08-03 17:36:34 -temp: add a temporary server (not saved)
+2019-08-03 17:36:34 option: set option for server (for boolean option, value can be omitted)
+2019-08-03 17:36:34 nooption: set boolean option to 'off' (for example: -nossl)
+2019-08-03 17:36:34 copy: duplicate a server
+2019-08-03 17:36:34 rename: rename a server
+2019-08-03 17:36:34 reorder: reorder list of servers
+2019-08-03 17:36:34 open: open the server buffer without connecting
+2019-08-03 17:36:34 keep: keep server in config file (for temporary servers only)
+2019-08-03 17:36:34 del: delete a server
+2019-08-03 17:36:34 deloutq: delete messages out queue for all servers (all messages WeeChat is currently sending)
+2019-08-03 17:36:34 jump: jump to server buffer
+2019-08-03 17:36:34 raw: open buffer with raw IRC data
+2019-08-03 17:36:34 Examples:
+2019-08-03 17:36:34 /server listfull
+2019-08-03 17:36:34 /server add freenode chat.freenode.net
+2019-08-03 17:36:34 /server add freenode chat.freenode.net/6697 -ssl -autoconnect
+2019-08-03 17:36:34 /server add chatspike irc.chatspike.net/6667,irc.duckspike.net/6667
+2019-08-03 17:36:34 /server copy freenode freenode-test
+2019-08-03 17:36:34 /server rename freenode-test freenode2
+2019-08-03 17:36:34 /server reorder freenode2 freenode
+2019-08-03 17:36:34 /server del freenode
+2019-08-03 17:36:34 /server deloutq
+2019-08-03 17:36:44 All servers:
+2019-08-03 17:36:44 * tilde [connected], nick: zack1, 2 channels, 0 pv
+2019-08-03 19:16:23 =!= Error: unknown command "/back" (type /help for help)
+2019-08-03 19:16:28 =!= Error: unknown command "/back" (type /help for help)
+2019-08-03 19:16:31 [core]
+2019-08-03 19:16:31 away buffer command debug filter history key mouse plugin proxy reload save set upgrade version window
+2019-08-03 19:16:31 bar color cursor eval help input layout mute print quit repeat secure unset uptime wait
+2019-08-03 19:16:31 [buflist]
+2019-08-03 19:16:31 buflist
+2019-08-03 19:16:31 [ruby]
+2019-08-03 19:16:31 ruby
+2019-08-03 19:16:31 [charset]
+2019-08-03 19:16:31 charset
+2019-08-03 19:16:31 [spell]
+2019-08-03 19:16:31 spell
+2019-08-03 19:16:31 [irc]
+2019-08-03 19:16:31 admin cap dehalfop halfop join list motd notify pong rehash sanick servlist time userhost wallops
+2019-08-03 19:16:31 allchan connect deop ignore kick lusers msg op query remove sapart squery topic users who
+2019-08-03 19:16:31 allpv ctcp devoice info kickban map names oper quiet restart saquit squit trace version whois
+2019-08-03 19:16:31 allserv cycle die invite kill me nick part quote sajoin server stats unban voice whowas
+2019-08-03 19:16:31 ban dcc disconnect ison links mode notice ping reconnect samode service summon unquiet wallchops
+2019-08-03 19:16:31 [fset]
+2019-08-03 19:16:31 fset
+2019-08-03 19:16:31 [perl]
+2019-08-03 19:16:31 highclean highmon iset perl
+2019-08-03 19:16:31 [logger]
+2019-08-03 19:16:31 logger
+2019-08-03 19:16:31 [trigger]
+2019-08-03 19:16:31 trigger
+2019-08-03 19:16:31 [xfer]
+2019-08-03 19:16:31 me xfer
+2019-08-03 19:16:31 [exec]
+2019-08-03 19:16:31 exec
+2019-08-03 19:16:31 [script]
+2019-08-03 19:16:31 script
+2019-08-03 19:16:31 [fifo]
+2019-08-03 19:16:31 fifo
+2019-08-03 19:16:31 [relay]
+2019-08-03 19:16:31 relay
+2019-08-03 19:16:31 [python]
+2019-08-03 19:16:31 autojoin grep logs python
+2019-08-03 19:16:31 [alias]
+2019-08-03 19:16:31 AAWAY AMSG BS CHAT CS IG KB MS N Q SAY SLAP UMODE WC WW
+2019-08-03 19:16:31 alias ANICK BYE CL EXIT J LEAVE MSGBUF NS REDRAW setup_aspell T V WI
+2019-08-03 19:16:31 AME BEEP C CLOSE HS K M MUB OS save_settings SIGNOFF UB W WII
+2019-08-03 19:16:57 [core] /away [-all] []
+2019-08-03 19:16:57 set or remove away status
+2019-08-03 19:16:57 -all: set or remove away status on all connected servers
+2019-08-03 19:16:57 message: message for away (if no message is given, away status is removed)
+2019-08-03 20:50:53 python: scripts unloaded
+2019-08-03 20:50:54 fifo: pipe closed
+2019-08-04 13:02:40 perl scripts loaded: highmon, iset
+2019-08-04 13:02:40 python: stdout/stderr (?): Traceback (most recent call last):
+2019-08-04 13:02:40 python: stdout/stderr (?): File "/home/zack/.weechat/python/autoload/otr.py", line 127, in
+2019-08-04 13:02:40 python: stdout/stderr (?): import potr
+2019-08-04 13:02:40 python: stdout/stderr (?): ImportError: No module named potr
+2019-08-04 13:02:40 =!= python: unable to parse file "/home/zack/.weechat/python/autoload/otr.py"
+2019-08-04 13:02:40 =!= python: function "register" not found (or failed) in file "/home/zack/.weechat/python/autoload/urlview.py"
+2019-08-04 13:02:40 python scripts loaded: apply_corrections, autojoin, grep
+2019-08-04 13:02:40 script: 363 scripts for WeeChat 2.5
+2019-08-04 13:02:40 Plugins loaded: alias, buflist, charset, exec, fifo, fset, irc, logger, perl, python, relay, ruby, script, spell, trigger, xfer
+2019-08-04 13:55:10 python: scripts unloaded
+2019-08-04 13:55:11 fifo: pipe closed
+2019-08-05 10:33:47 perl scripts loaded: highmon, iset
+2019-08-05 10:33:47 python: stdout/stderr (?): Traceback (most recent call last):
+2019-08-05 10:33:47 python: stdout/stderr (?): File "/home/zack/.weechat/python/autoload/otr.py", line 127, in
+2019-08-05 10:33:47 python: stdout/stderr (?): import potr
+2019-08-05 10:33:47 python: stdout/stderr (?): ImportError: No module named potr
+2019-08-05 10:33:47 =!= python: unable to parse file "/home/zack/.weechat/python/autoload/otr.py"
+2019-08-05 10:33:47 =!= python: function "register" not found (or failed) in file "/home/zack/.weechat/python/autoload/urlview.py"
+2019-08-05 10:33:47 python scripts loaded: apply_corrections, autojoin, grep
+2019-08-05 10:33:47 script: downloading list of scripts...
+2019-08-05 10:33:47 Plugins loaded: alias, buflist, charset, exec, fifo, fset, irc, logger, perl, python, relay, ruby, script, spell, trigger, xfer
+2019-08-05 10:33:48 script: 363 scripts for WeeChat 2.5
+2019-08-10 09:09:40 python: scripts unloaded
+2019-08-10 09:09:42 fifo: pipe closed
+2019-08-10 09:12:31 perl scripts loaded: highmon, iset
+2019-08-10 09:12:32 python: stdout/stderr (?): Traceback (most recent call last):
+2019-08-10 09:12:32 python: stdout/stderr (?): File "/home/zack/.weechat/python/autoload/otr.py", line 127, in
+2019-08-10 09:12:32 python: stdout/stderr (?): import potr
+2019-08-10 09:12:32 python: stdout/stderr (?): ImportError: No module named potr
+2019-08-10 09:12:32 =!= python: unable to parse file "/home/zack/.weechat/python/autoload/otr.py"
+2019-08-10 09:12:32 =!= python: function "register" not found (or failed) in file "/home/zack/.weechat/python/autoload/urlview.py"
+2019-08-10 09:12:32 python scripts loaded: apply_corrections, autojoin, grep
+2019-08-10 09:12:32 script: downloading list of scripts...
+2019-08-10 09:12:32 Plugins loaded: alias, buflist, charset, exec, fifo, fset, irc, logger, perl, python, relay, ruby, script, spell, trigger, xfer
+2019-08-10 09:12:33 script: 363 scripts for WeeChat 2.5
+2019-08-10 09:46:31 python: scripts unloaded
+2019-08-10 09:46:31 fifo: pipe closed
+2019-08-11 08:24:39 perl scripts loaded: highmon, iset
+2019-08-11 08:24:39 python: stdout/stderr (?): Traceback (most recent call last):
+2019-08-11 08:24:39 python: stdout/stderr (?): File "/home/zack/.weechat/python/autoload/otr.py", line 127, in
+2019-08-11 08:24:39 python: stdout/stderr (?): import potr
+2019-08-11 08:24:39 python: stdout/stderr (?): ImportError: No module named potr
+2019-08-11 08:24:39 =!= python: unable to parse file "/home/zack/.weechat/python/autoload/otr.py"
+2019-08-11 08:24:39 =!= python: function "register" not found (or failed) in file "/home/zack/.weechat/python/autoload/urlview.py"
+2019-08-11 08:24:39 python scripts loaded: apply_corrections, autojoin, grep
+2019-08-11 08:24:39 script: 363 scripts for WeeChat 2.5
+2019-08-11 08:24:39 Plugins loaded: alias, buflist, charset, exec, fifo, fset, irc, logger, perl, python, relay, ruby, script, spell, trigger, xfer
+2019-08-11 08:25:05 python: scripts unloaded
+2019-08-11 08:25:05 fifo: pipe closed
+2019-08-12 08:34:54 perl scripts loaded: highmon, iset
+2019-08-12 08:34:54 python: stdout/stderr (?): Traceback (most recent call last):
+2019-08-12 08:34:54 python: stdout/stderr (?): File "/home/zack/.weechat/python/autoload/otr.py", line 127, in
+2019-08-12 08:34:54 python: stdout/stderr (?): import potr
+2019-08-12 08:34:54 python: stdout/stderr (?): ImportError: No module named potr
+2019-08-12 08:34:54 =!= python: unable to parse file "/home/zack/.weechat/python/autoload/otr.py"
+2019-08-12 08:34:54 =!= python: function "register" not found (or failed) in file "/home/zack/.weechat/python/autoload/urlview.py"
+2019-08-12 08:34:54 python scripts loaded: apply_corrections, autojoin, grep
+2019-08-12 08:34:54 script: downloading list of scripts...
+2019-08-12 08:34:54 Plugins loaded: alias, buflist, charset, exec, fifo, fset, irc, logger, perl, python, relay, ruby, script, spell, trigger, xfer
+2019-08-12 08:34:55 script: 363 scripts for WeeChat 2.5
+2019-08-12 10:19:59 python: scripts unloaded
+2019-08-12 10:19:59 fifo: pipe closed
+2019-08-12 11:22:32 perl scripts loaded: highmon, iset
+2019-08-12 11:22:32 python: stdout/stderr (?): Traceback (most recent call last):
+2019-08-12 11:22:32 python: stdout/stderr (?): File "/home/zack/.weechat/python/autoload/otr.py", line 127, in
+2019-08-12 11:22:32 python: stdout/stderr (?): import potr
+2019-08-12 11:22:32 python: stdout/stderr (?): ImportError: No module named potr
+2019-08-12 11:22:32 =!= python: unable to parse file "/home/zack/.weechat/python/autoload/otr.py"
+2019-08-12 11:22:32 =!= python: function "register" not found (or failed) in file "/home/zack/.weechat/python/autoload/urlview.py"
+2019-08-12 11:22:32 python scripts loaded: apply_corrections, autojoin, grep
+2019-08-12 11:22:32 script: 363 scripts for WeeChat 2.5
+2019-08-12 11:22:32 Plugins loaded: alias, buflist, charset, exec, fifo, fset, irc, logger, perl, python, relay, ruby, script, spell, trigger, xfer
diff --git a/.weechat/logs/irc.server.tilde.weechatlog b/.weechat/logs/irc.server.tilde.weechatlog
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..63a141e
--- /dev/null
+++ b/.weechat/logs/irc.server.tilde.weechatlog
@@ -0,0 +1,836 @@
+2019-08-02 13:59:10 -- irc: connecting to server localhost/6667...
+2019-08-02 13:59:10 -- irc: connected to localhost/6667 (127.0.0.1)
+2019-08-02 13:59:10 -- team.tilde.chat: *** Looking up your ident...
+2019-08-02 13:59:10 -- team.tilde.chat: *** Looking up your hostname...
+2019-08-02 13:59:10 -- team.tilde.chat: *** Could not resolve your hostname: Malformed answer; using your IP address (127.0.0.1) instead.
+2019-08-02 13:59:10 -- irc: client capability, server supports: extended-join server-time message-tags echo-message tls invite-notify account-tag multi-prefix batch account-notify userhost-in-names chghost sasl sts=port=6697 cap-notify away-notify
+2019-08-02 13:59:10 -- irc: client capability, requesting: account-notify away-notify cap-notify chghost extended-join invite-notify multi-prefix server-time userhost-in-names
+2019-08-02 13:59:11 -- irc: client capability, enabled: account-notify away-notify cap-notify chghost extended-join invite-notify multi-prefix server-time userhost-in-names
+2019-08-02 13:59:12 -- team.tilde.chat: *** Found your ident, 'zack'
+2019-08-02 13:59:12 -- Welcome to the tilde.chat IRC Network zack!zack@127.0.0.1
+2019-08-02 13:59:12 -- Your host is team.tilde.chat, running version InspIRCd-3
+2019-08-02 13:59:12 -- This server was created 19:03:06 Jul 15 2019
+2019-08-02 13:59:12 -- team.tilde.chat InspIRCd-3 BILRSWchiorswz ABEFHIJLMNOQRSTYabcefghijklmnopqrstuvz :BEFHIJLYabefghjkloqv
+2019-08-02 13:59:12 -- AWAYLEN=200 CASEMAPPING=rfc1459 CHANLIMIT=#:120 CHANMODES=Ibeg,k,BEFHJLfjl,AMNOQRSTcimnprstuz CHANNELLEN=64 CHANTYPES=# ELIST=CMNTU ESILENCE=CcdiNnPpTtx EXCEPTS=e EXTBAN=,ANOQRSTUcmnpz HOSTLEN=64 INVEX=I :are supported by this server
+2019-08-02 13:59:12 -- KEYLEN=32 KICKLEN=255 LINELEN=512 MAXLIST=Ibeg:100 MAXTARGETS=20 MODES=20 MONITOR=30 NAMESX NETWORK=tilde.chat NICKLEN=31 PREFIX=(Yqaohv)!~&@%+ REMOVE SAFELIST :are supported by this server
+2019-08-02 13:59:12 -- SECURELIST SILENCE=32 STATUSMSG=!~&@%+ TOPICLEN=307 UHNAMES USERIP USERLEN=11 VBANLIST WATCH=30 WHOX :are supported by this server
+2019-08-02 13:59:12 -- There are 208 users and 22 invisible on 12 servers
+2019-08-02 13:59:12 -- 9 :operator(s) online
+2019-08-02 13:59:12 -- 1 :unknown connections
+2019-08-02 13:59:12 -- 133 :channels formed
+2019-08-02 13:59:12 -- I have 65 clients and 1 servers
+2019-08-02 13:59:12 -- Current local users: 65 Max: 72
+2019-08-02 13:59:12 -- Current global users: 230 Max: 236
+2019-08-02 13:59:12 -- team.tilde.chat message of the day
+2019-08-02 13:59:12 -- - __ __ _ __ __ __ __
+2019-08-02 13:59:12 -- - / /____ ____ _____ ___ / /_(_) /___/ /__ _____/ /_ ____ _/ /_
+2019-08-02 13:59:12 -- - / __/ _ \/ __ `/ __ `__ \ / __/ / / __ / _ \ / ___/ __ \/ __ `/ __/
+2019-08-02 13:59:12 -- - / /_/ __/ /_/ / / / / / // /_/ / / /_/ / __// /__/ / / / /_/ / /_
+2019-08-02 13:59:12 -- - \__/\___/\__,_/_/ /_/ /_(_)__/_/_/\__,_/\___(_)___/_/ /_/\__,_/\__/
+2019-08-02 13:59:12 -- -
+2019-08-02 13:59:12 -- - welcome to tilde.chat (hosted on tilde.team)
+2019-08-02 13:59:12 -- - this is the irc network for the https://tildeverse.org
+2019-08-02 13:59:12 -- -
+2019-08-02 13:59:12 -- - check out the appropriate channel for your tilde:
+2019-08-02 13:59:12 -- -
+2019-08-02 13:59:12 -- - - aussies.space ~> #aussie
+2019-08-02 13:59:12 -- - - cosmic.voyage ~> #cosmic
+2019-08-02 13:59:12 -- - - ctrl-c.club ~> #ctrl-c
+2019-08-02 13:59:12 -- - - radiofreqs.space ~> #radiofreqs
+2019-08-02 13:59:12 -- - - thunix.net ~> #thunix
+2019-08-02 13:59:12 -- - - tilde.center ~> #center
+2019-08-02 13:59:12 -- - - tilde.institute ~> #institute
+2019-08-02 13:59:12 -- - - tilde.team ~> #team
+2019-08-02 13:59:12 -- - - tilde.town ~> #town
+2019-08-02 13:59:12 -- - - yourtilde.com ~> #yourtilde
+2019-08-02 13:59:12 -- -
+2019-08-02 13:59:12 -- - the main lobby channel is #meta. check /list for the other channels
+2019-08-02 13:59:12 -- - check out https://tilde.chat/stats/ for more channel info
+2019-08-02 13:59:12 -- -
+2019-08-02 13:59:12 -- - check out #tilderadio for the new tildeverse internet radio station!
+2019-08-02 13:59:12 -- -
+2019-08-02 13:59:12 -- - msg an oper if you need anything and
+2019-08-02 13:59:12 -- -
+2019-08-02 13:59:12 -- - ~~ be excellent to each other ~~
+2019-08-02 13:59:12 -- -
+2019-08-02 13:59:12 -- End of message of the day.
+2019-08-02 13:59:12 -- team.tilde.chat: Setting your virtual host: tilde.team
+2019-08-02 13:59:12 -- tilde.team :is now your displayed host
+2019-08-02 13:59:12 -- NickServ (services@services.tilde.chat): Your nickname is not registered. To register it, use: /msg NickServ REGISTER password email
+2019-08-02 15:24:41 -- irc: connecting to server localhost/6667...
+2019-08-02 15:24:41 -- irc: connected to localhost/6667 (127.0.0.1)
+2019-08-02 15:24:41 -- team.tilde.chat: *** Looking up your ident...
+2019-08-02 15:24:41 -- team.tilde.chat: *** Looking up your hostname...
+2019-08-02 15:24:41 -- team.tilde.chat: *** Could not resolve your hostname: Malformed answer; using your IP address (127.0.0.1) instead.
+2019-08-02 15:24:41 -- irc: client capability, server supports: extended-join server-time message-tags echo-message tls invite-notify account-tag multi-prefix batch account-notify userhost-in-names chghost sasl sts=port=6697 cap-notify away-notify
+2019-08-02 15:24:41 -- irc: client capability, requesting: account-notify away-notify cap-notify chghost extended-join invite-notify multi-prefix server-time userhost-in-names
+2019-08-02 15:24:41 -- irc: nickname "zack" is already in use, trying nickname "zack1"
+2019-08-02 15:24:41 -- irc: client capability, enabled: account-notify away-notify cap-notify chghost extended-join invite-notify multi-prefix server-time userhost-in-names
+2019-08-02 15:24:42 -- team.tilde.chat: *** Found your ident, 'zack'
+2019-08-02 15:24:42 -- Welcome to the tilde.chat IRC Network zack1!zack@127.0.0.1
+2019-08-02 15:24:42 -- Your host is team.tilde.chat, running version InspIRCd-3
+2019-08-02 15:24:42 -- This server was created 19:03:06 Jul 15 2019
+2019-08-02 15:24:42 -- team.tilde.chat InspIRCd-3 BILRSWchiorswz ABEFHIJLMNOQRSTYabcefghijklmnopqrstuvz :BEFHIJLYabefghjkloqv
+2019-08-02 15:24:42 -- AWAYLEN=200 CASEMAPPING=rfc1459 CHANLIMIT=#:120 CHANMODES=Ibeg,k,BEFHJLfjl,AMNOQRSTcimnprstuz CHANNELLEN=64 CHANTYPES=# ELIST=CMNTU ESILENCE=CcdiNnPpTtx EXCEPTS=e EXTBAN=,ANOQRSTUcmnpz HOSTLEN=64 INVEX=I :are supported by this server
+2019-08-02 15:24:42 -- KEYLEN=32 KICKLEN=255 LINELEN=512 MAXLIST=Ibeg:100 MAXTARGETS=20 MODES=20 MONITOR=30 NAMESX NETWORK=tilde.chat NICKLEN=31 PREFIX=(Yqaohv)!~&@%+ REMOVE SAFELIST :are supported by this server
+2019-08-02 15:24:42 -- SECURELIST SILENCE=32 STATUSMSG=!~&@%+ TOPICLEN=307 UHNAMES USERIP USERLEN=11 VBANLIST WATCH=30 WHOX :are supported by this server
+2019-08-02 15:24:42 -- There are 213 users and 22 invisible on 12 servers
+2019-08-02 15:24:42 -- 9 :operator(s) online
+2019-08-02 15:24:42 -- 1 :unknown connections
+2019-08-02 15:24:42 -- 134 :channels formed
+2019-08-02 15:24:42 -- I have 69 clients and 1 servers
+2019-08-02 15:24:42 -- Current local users: 69 Max: 72
+2019-08-02 15:24:42 -- Current global users: 235 Max: 238
+2019-08-02 15:24:42 -- team.tilde.chat message of the day
+2019-08-02 15:24:42 -- - __ __ _ __ __ __ __
+2019-08-02 15:24:42 -- - / /____ ____ _____ ___ / /_(_) /___/ /__ _____/ /_ ____ _/ /_
+2019-08-02 15:24:42 -- - / __/ _ \/ __ `/ __ `__ \ / __/ / / __ / _ \ / ___/ __ \/ __ `/ __/
+2019-08-02 15:24:42 -- - / /_/ __/ /_/ / / / / / // /_/ / / /_/ / __// /__/ / / / /_/ / /_
+2019-08-02 15:24:42 -- - \__/\___/\__,_/_/ /_/ /_(_)__/_/_/\__,_/\___(_)___/_/ /_/\__,_/\__/
+2019-08-02 15:24:42 -- -
+2019-08-02 15:24:42 -- - welcome to tilde.chat (hosted on tilde.team)
+2019-08-02 15:24:42 -- - this is the irc network for the https://tildeverse.org
+2019-08-02 15:24:42 -- -
+2019-08-02 15:24:42 -- - check out the appropriate channel for your tilde:
+2019-08-02 15:24:42 -- -
+2019-08-02 15:24:42 -- - - aussies.space ~> #aussie
+2019-08-02 15:24:42 -- - - cosmic.voyage ~> #cosmic
+2019-08-02 15:24:42 -- - - ctrl-c.club ~> #ctrl-c
+2019-08-02 15:24:42 -- - - radiofreqs.space ~> #radiofreqs
+2019-08-02 15:24:42 -- - - thunix.net ~> #thunix
+2019-08-02 15:24:42 -- - - tilde.center ~> #center
+2019-08-02 15:24:42 -- - - tilde.institute ~> #institute
+2019-08-02 15:24:42 -- - - tilde.team ~> #team
+2019-08-02 15:24:42 -- - - tilde.town ~> #town
+2019-08-02 15:24:42 -- - - yourtilde.com ~> #yourtilde
+2019-08-02 15:24:42 -- -
+2019-08-02 15:24:42 -- - the main lobby channel is #meta. check /list for the other channels
+2019-08-02 15:24:42 -- - check out https://tilde.chat/stats/ for more channel info
+2019-08-02 15:24:42 -- -
+2019-08-02 15:24:42 -- - check out #tilderadio for the new tildeverse internet radio station!
+2019-08-02 15:24:42 -- -
+2019-08-02 15:24:42 -- - msg an oper if you need anything and
+2019-08-02 15:24:42 -- -
+2019-08-02 15:24:42 -- - ~~ be excellent to each other ~~
+2019-08-02 15:24:42 -- -
+2019-08-02 15:24:42 -- End of message of the day.
+2019-08-02 15:24:42 -- team.tilde.chat: Setting your virtual host: tilde.team
+2019-08-02 15:24:42 -- tilde.team :is now your displayed host
+2019-08-02 15:24:42 -- NickServ (services@services.tilde.chat): Your nickname is not registered. To register it, use: /msg NickServ REGISTER password email
+2019-08-02 15:35:58 -- MSG(NickServ): IDENTIFY **************
+2019-08-02 15:35:58 -- NickServ (services@services.tilde.chat): Nick zack1 isn't registered.
+2019-08-02 15:36:58 -- zack: Nickname is already in use.
+2019-08-02 15:37:24 -- MSG(NickServ): help
+2019-08-02 15:37:24 -- NickServ (services@services.tilde.chat): NickServ allows you to register a nickname and
+2019-08-02 15:37:24 -- NickServ (services@services.tilde.chat): prevent others from using it. The following
+2019-08-02 15:37:24 -- NickServ (services@services.tilde.chat): commands allow for registration and maintenance of
+2019-08-02 15:37:24 -- NickServ (services@services.tilde.chat): nicknames; to use them, type /msg NickServ command.
+2019-08-02 15:37:24 -- NickServ (services@services.tilde.chat): For more information on a specific command, type
+2019-08-02 15:37:24 -- NickServ (services@services.tilde.chat): /msg NickServ HELP command.
+2019-08-02 15:37:24 -- NickServ (services@services.tilde.chat): CONFIRM Confirm a passcode
+2019-08-02 15:37:24 -- NickServ (services@services.tilde.chat): GROUP Join a group
+2019-08-02 15:37:24 -- NickServ (services@services.tilde.chat): HELP Displays this list and give information about commands
+2019-08-02 15:37:24 -- NickServ (services@services.tilde.chat): IDENTIFY Identify yourself with your password
+2019-08-02 15:37:24 -- NickServ (services@services.tilde.chat): INFO Displays information about a given nickname
+2019-08-02 15:37:24 -- NickServ (services@services.tilde.chat): RECOVER Regains control of your nick
+2019-08-02 15:37:24 -- NickServ (services@services.tilde.chat): REGISTER Register a nickname
+2019-08-02 15:37:24 -- NickServ (services@services.tilde.chat): RESETPASS Helps you reset lost passwords
+2019-08-02 15:37:24 -- NickServ (services@services.tilde.chat): STATUS Returns the owner status of the given nickname
+2019-08-02 15:37:24 -- NickServ (services@services.tilde.chat):
+2019-08-02 15:37:24 -- NickServ (services@services.tilde.chat): Accounts that are not used anymore are subject to
+2019-08-02 15:37:24 -- NickServ (services@services.tilde.chat): the automatic expiration, i.e. they will be deleted
+2019-08-02 15:37:24 -- NickServ (services@services.tilde.chat): after 60 days if not used.
+2019-08-02 15:38:43 -- MSG(NickServer): RECOVER
+2019-08-02 15:38:43 -- NickServer: No such nick
+2019-08-02 15:38:51 -- MSG(NickServer): RECOVER zack
+2019-08-02 15:38:51 -- NickServer: No such nick
+2019-08-02 15:42:57 -- ~zack: Erroneous Nickname
+2019-08-02 15:43:04 -- @zack: Erroneous Nickname
+2019-08-02 15:43:11 -- You are now known as zack_
+2019-08-02 15:43:39 -- MSG(NickServ): IDENTIFY *******************
+2019-08-02 15:43:39 -- NickServ (services@services.tilde.chat): Password accepted - you are now recognized.
+2019-08-02 15:43:39 -- You are now logged in as zack (zack_!zack@tilde.team)
+2019-08-02 15:43:56 -- MSG(NickServ): GROUP
+2019-08-02 15:43:56 -- NickServ (services@services.tilde.chat): You are now in the group of zack.
+2019-08-02 15:43:56 -- User mode [+r] by NickServ
+2019-08-02 15:44:24 -- [zack_] (zack@tilde.team): zack
+2019-08-02 15:44:24 -- [zack_] is connecting from zack@127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1
+2019-08-02 15:44:24 -- [zack_] #team #meta
+2019-08-02 15:44:24 -- [zack_] team.tilde.chat (tildeverse irc on tilde.team)
+2019-08-02 15:44:24 -- [zack_] is using modes +r
+2019-08-02 15:44:24 -- [zack_] is logged in as zack
+2019-08-02 15:44:24 -- [zack_] is a registered nick
+2019-08-02 15:44:24 -- [zack_] idle: 00 hours 00 minutes 28 seconds, signon at: Fri, 02 Aug 2019 15:24:41
+2019-08-02 15:44:24 -- [zack_] End of /WHOIS list.
+2019-08-03 08:39:25 -- irc: connecting to server localhost/6667...
+2019-08-03 08:39:25 -- irc: connected to localhost/6667 (127.0.0.1)
+2019-08-03 08:39:25 -- team.tilde.chat: *** Looking up your ident...
+2019-08-03 08:39:25 -- team.tilde.chat: *** Looking up your hostname...
+2019-08-03 08:39:25 -- team.tilde.chat: *** Could not resolve your hostname: Malformed answer; using your IP address (127.0.0.1) instead.
+2019-08-03 08:39:25 -- irc: client capability, server supports: extended-join server-time message-tags echo-message tls invite-notify account-tag multi-prefix batch account-notify userhost-in-names chghost sasl sts=port=6697 cap-notify away-notify
+2019-08-03 08:39:25 -- irc: client capability, requesting: account-notify away-notify cap-notify chghost extended-join invite-notify multi-prefix server-time userhost-in-names
+2019-08-03 08:39:25 -- irc: nickname "zack" is already in use, trying nickname "zack1"
+2019-08-03 08:39:25 -- irc: client capability, enabled: account-notify away-notify cap-notify chghost extended-join invite-notify multi-prefix server-time userhost-in-names
+2019-08-03 08:39:26 -- team.tilde.chat: *** Found your ident, 'zack'
+2019-08-03 08:39:26 -- Welcome to the tilde.chat IRC Network zack1!zack@127.0.0.1
+2019-08-03 08:39:26 -- Your host is team.tilde.chat, running version InspIRCd-3
+2019-08-03 08:39:26 -- This server was created 19:03:06 Jul 15 2019
+2019-08-03 08:39:26 -- team.tilde.chat InspIRCd-3 BILRSWchiorswz ABEFHIJLMNOQRSTYabcefghijklmnopqrstuvz :BEFHIJLYabefghjkloqv
+2019-08-03 08:39:26 -- AWAYLEN=200 CASEMAPPING=rfc1459 CHANLIMIT=#:120 CHANMODES=Ibeg,k,BEFHJLfjl,AMNOQRSTcimnprstuz CHANNELLEN=64 CHANTYPES=# ELIST=CMNTU ESILENCE=CcdiNnPpTtx EXCEPTS=e EXTBAN=,ANOQRSTUcmnpz HOSTLEN=64 INVEX=I :are supported by this server
+2019-08-03 08:39:26 -- KEYLEN=32 KICKLEN=255 LINELEN=512 MAXLIST=Ibeg:100 MAXTARGETS=20 MODES=20 MONITOR=30 NAMESX NETWORK=tilde.chat NICKLEN=31 PREFIX=(Yqaohv)!~&@%+ REMOVE SAFELIST :are supported by this server
+2019-08-03 08:39:26 -- SECURELIST SILENCE=32 STATUSMSG=!~&@%+ TOPICLEN=307 UHNAMES USERIP USERLEN=11 VBANLIST WATCH=30 WHOX :are supported by this server
+2019-08-03 08:39:26 -- There are 217 users and 23 invisible on 12 servers
+2019-08-03 08:39:26 -- 9 :operator(s) online
+2019-08-03 08:39:26 -- 1 :unknown connections
+2019-08-03 08:39:26 -- 135 :channels formed
+2019-08-03 08:39:26 -- I have 68 clients and 1 servers
+2019-08-03 08:39:26 -- Current local users: 68 Max: 72
+2019-08-03 08:39:26 -- Current global users: 240 Max: 241
+2019-08-03 08:39:26 -- team.tilde.chat message of the day
+2019-08-03 08:39:26 -- - __ __ _ __ __ __ __
+2019-08-03 08:39:26 -- - / /____ ____ _____ ___ / /_(_) /___/ /__ _____/ /_ ____ _/ /_
+2019-08-03 08:39:26 -- - / __/ _ \/ __ `/ __ `__ \ / __/ / / __ / _ \ / ___/ __ \/ __ `/ __/
+2019-08-03 08:39:26 -- - / /_/ __/ /_/ / / / / / // /_/ / / /_/ / __// /__/ / / / /_/ / /_
+2019-08-03 08:39:26 -- - \__/\___/\__,_/_/ /_/ /_(_)__/_/_/\__,_/\___(_)___/_/ /_/\__,_/\__/
+2019-08-03 08:39:26 -- -
+2019-08-03 08:39:26 -- - welcome to tilde.chat (hosted on tilde.team)
+2019-08-03 08:39:26 -- - this is the irc network for the https://tildeverse.org
+2019-08-03 08:39:26 -- -
+2019-08-03 08:39:26 -- - check out the appropriate channel for your tilde:
+2019-08-03 08:39:26 -- -
+2019-08-03 08:39:26 -- - - aussies.space ~> #aussie
+2019-08-03 08:39:26 -- - - cosmic.voyage ~> #cosmic
+2019-08-03 08:39:26 -- - - ctrl-c.club ~> #ctrl-c
+2019-08-03 08:39:26 -- - - radiofreqs.space ~> #radiofreqs
+2019-08-03 08:39:26 -- - - thunix.net ~> #thunix
+2019-08-03 08:39:26 -- - - tilde.center ~> #center
+2019-08-03 08:39:26 -- - - tilde.institute ~> #institute
+2019-08-03 08:39:26 -- - - tilde.team ~> #team
+2019-08-03 08:39:26 -- - - tilde.town ~> #town
+2019-08-03 08:39:26 -- - - yourtilde.com ~> #yourtilde
+2019-08-03 08:39:26 -- -
+2019-08-03 08:39:26 -- - the main lobby channel is #meta. check /list for the other channels
+2019-08-03 08:39:26 -- - check out https://tilde.chat/stats/ for more channel info
+2019-08-03 08:39:26 -- -
+2019-08-03 08:39:26 -- - check out #tilderadio for the new tildeverse internet radio station!
+2019-08-03 08:39:26 -- -
+2019-08-03 08:39:26 -- - msg an oper if you need anything and
+2019-08-03 08:39:26 -- -
+2019-08-03 08:39:26 -- - ~~ be excellent to each other ~~
+2019-08-03 08:39:26 -- -
+2019-08-03 08:39:26 -- End of message of the day.
+2019-08-03 08:39:26 -- team.tilde.chat: Setting your virtual host: tilde.team
+2019-08-03 08:39:26 -- tilde.team :is now your displayed host
+2019-08-03 08:39:26 -- NickServ (services@services.tilde.chat): Your nickname is not registered. To register it, use: /msg NickServ REGISTER password email
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- Channel Users Name
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #tildetown(2): [+nt]
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #6502gen(1): [+nt]
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #tildeverse(23): [+nrt] Tildeverse meeting/discussion place - https://tildeverse.org/ - comments on https://tilde.news mirrored here
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #math(2): [+nt]
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #summit-admin(1): [+nt]
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #music(5): [+nrt]
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #YourTilde(22): [+nrt] YourTilde General Chat - New here? Say Hi! - etiquette: https://ttm.sh/etiquette - wiki: wiki.yourtilde.com - Search engine: search.tildeverse.org - Tilde Banner Service: https://banner.tildeverse.org
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #javascript(1): [+nrt] All things javascript, including node.js
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #tildex(2): [+nrt] Discussion about the Tildex project | https://tildex.com
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #tildetheater(1): [+nt]
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #politics(15): [+nrt] politics overflow for when it's just too spicy for #meta
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #zccount(1): [+nrt] Discussion about the Zccount manifesto | https://zccount.com
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #irccourt(1): [+nt]
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #leakingemotions(1): [+nt] I hate myself | I want to tell everyone: I am in emotional pain
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #bitbot-opers(1): [+nrt]
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #aaa(1): [+nt]
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #dn42(1): [+nt]
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #projects(22): [+nt] what are you working on?
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #mud(1): [+nt]
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #linux(1): [+nrt] Welcome to #linux - This channel is for discussing Linux and it's components
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #uucp(19): [+nrt] http://uucp.dataforge.tk - Info | Make The Internet Not Suck Again
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #religion(3): [+nt]
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #chat(2): [+nt]
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #python(5): [+nrt] looking for an active person to take over the channel
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #security(17): [+nrt] All about security, privacy, and the modern web
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #tildemush(1): [+nt]
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #yee(1): [+nt]
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #solid(1): [+nt]
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #netnews(9): [+nrt] https://news.tildeverse.org | https://pad.tildeverse.org/code/#/2/code/edit/6R7SN3OKQ6krL28k5E5caS5e/
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #furry(11): [+Anrt] #furry - shark week edition
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #flamewars(6): [+nt] For when your argument gets too spicy for #meta
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #town(1): [+nt]
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #bbj(2): [+nt]
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #eggdrop(4): [+nrt] Eggdrop bot and TCL discussion / help
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #announcements(1): [+nt]
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #radiofreqs(6): [+nrt] https://RadioFreqs.space - https://wiki.radiofreqs.space
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #sports(2): [+nrt] Discuss sports!
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #hackint(1): [+nt]
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #asdf(1): [+nt]
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #summit-bots(1): [+nt]
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #sudoers(5): [+nrt] package requests or whatever go here; ask and maybe we'll do something idk
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #BBS(7): [+nt] BBSes? Yes, BBSes. Those things where you hang out with people, popular in the 80's and early 90's. They're still around! Check out the Telnet BBS Guide for more info!
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #minceraft(2): [+nt]
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #.tilde(9): [+nrt] Discussion and support for the .tilde TLD - https://tildenic.org | Type !serverlist to view available DNS servers
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #red(15): [+nrt] For discussion of all things tilde.red, or anything regarding systems of collectivism
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- ##jan6(1): [+nt]
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #crypto(2): [+nrt] where discussions on 2fa, crypto, authentication and tasty snacks happen - no bitcoin plx
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #sevens-meta(3): [+nrt] Beware of those who speak in sevens, as you cannot know the fortitude of their souls.
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #theasylum(17): [+nrt] Porgrammer's Haven and Minetest Server Host | Minetest server: minetest.tildeverse.org:30000 | mon shows up, someone with sudo give him a shell please | Really needing to know who uses theasylum for programming
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #alc(1): [+nt]
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #sevens(3): [+nrt] Beware of those who speak in sevens, as you cannot know the fortitude of their souls.
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #bitbot(7): [+nrt]
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #your(1): [+nt]
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #sr.ht(1): [+nt]
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #RetroDigital(2): [+nt]
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #theasylum-mud(1): [+nt]
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #quake-coop(3): [+nt] Welcome to the Quake 1 AND Doom 1&2 COOP channel! | Server: null.qc.to | Recommended clients are EZQuake https://ezquake.github.io/ and Zandronum https://zandronum.com | The bots are always watching o.o
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #journal(6): [+nt] Tilde Journal - for longer write-ups about tilde member's projects or topics of interest
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #proto(1): [+nt]
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #khuxkm-bots(1): [+nt]
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #CafeBNC(1): [+nt]
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #chaos(14): [+fnt 57:60] Creeper! Aww man... So we back in the mine, got our pickaxe swingin' from side to side, side- side to side
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #cosmic(31): [+Anrt] Join humanity's stellar diaspora on the Cosmic Voyage - https://cosmic.voyage/join.html
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #LaTeX(2): [+nrt] Welcome to #LaTeX
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #black(11): [+Anrt] (tilde.black) The black hole of the tildeverse - https://tilde.black/docs
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #team(93): [+nrt] tilde.team stuff: https://tilde.team/wiki/ ~ https://tildegit.org/team
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #minecraft(12): [+nrt] server: mc.tildeverse.org | discord: https://discord.gg/pfZMZFM | dynmap: map.mc.tildeverse.org | see #minetest for Minetest
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #tildegames(1): [+nt]
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #meta(152): [+fnrt 10:20] https://tildeverse.org general chat: https://tilde.chat ~ etiquette: https://ttm.sh/etiquette ~ ,ops to ping ops, don't use unnessecarily
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #writing(3): [+nrt] For tildenauts who love to write, in any form!
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #quotes(1): [+nt]
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #vantaradio(1): [+nt]
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #golang(1): [+nt] The Go programming language
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #~(8): [+Anrt] the new #meta
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #ca.tilde(1): [+nt]
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #testtestchan(2): [+nt]
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #kneezle(1): [+nrt]
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #emacs(1): [+nt]
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #brains(9): [+nrt] mental health stuff
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #idlerpg(6): [+nrt] IdleRPG - Happy Holidays Idlers! - https://yourtilde.com/~ubergeek/irpg
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #tildetel(25): [+nrt] tilde.tel ~ Your $HOME Phone | Service & community numbers on gopher://tilde.tel/0/phonebook.txt or https://tilde.tel/phonebook.html
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #parenting(1): [+nt]
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #rmn(1): [+nrt] Discussion about the development of Read My News | http://readmy.news
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #robtestbot(2): [+nt]
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #nsfw(2): [+nrt] This channel is like #meta, but includes blackjack, hookers and booze ☺
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #adventofcode(1): [+nt]
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #protocol(1): [+nt]
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #aussie(14): [+Anrt] aussie tilde ~ signup: https://aussies.space/join.php ~ todo: https://tildegit.org/aussie/todo ~ web: https://aussies.space ~ gopher: gopher://aussies.space ~ contact fosslinux if you have any issues
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #hamradio(15): [+nrt] Amateur radio etc - https://wiki.radiofreqs.space/w/tilde-chat-hamradio
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #trivia(2): [+nt] Have fun.. play some trivia. :) To turn the game On, just type .t2 in the channel.
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #institute(22): [+nrt] tilde.institute :: twtxt registry now available! https://twtxt.tilde.institute
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #share(6): [+Ant] stuff worth sharing, thoughts, links, code snippets, whatever, please post so jan6 doesn't feel lonely
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- *(3)
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #vh7(5): [+nt] --== VH7 | https://vh7.uk | Guides: https://docs.vh7.uk/ ==--
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #babili(1): [+nrt] Discussion about everything Babili | https://babili.xyz | https://tildegit.org/babili/
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #gopher(33): [+nrt] gophers galore https://gopher.tildeverse.org | https://gopher.zone
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #envs(4): [+nt]
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #gemini(1): [+nt]
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #tildelinux(7): [+nrt] a customized, extra ~tilde~ debian distro. website: https://linux.tildeverse.org. gitea org: https://tildegit.org/tildelinux. kanban board: https://pad.tildeverse.org/kanban/#/2/kanban/edit/6w87ujP7uDa4BmZndChHSwZl/
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #center(13): [+Anrt] Official channel for tilde.center | The server will be closing on 2019-07-27, read more here: https://aewens.com/blog/tildex
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #slbr(7): [+nt] ON HIATUS | SUICIDE LINUX BATTLE ROYALE: https://slbr.tildeverse.org | it's like jenga but it's on a computer and it's with typos
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #pink(10): [+Anrt] gopher://tilde.pink - Our tor address has now changed to tildepinkaxbdebq.onion - So shiny!
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #jwheare(1): [+nt]
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #finger(2): [+nrt] You can learn a lot about someone by giving them the finger
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #jack3test(2): [+nt]
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #anime(5): [+nt] You nico nico need to watch more anime, it's kawaii sugoi moe desu desu!
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #queer(1): [+nt]
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #aussies(1): [+nt] go to #aussie
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #minecraft-rand(4): [+nrt] Minecraft, with randomized loot tables AND structures | IP: khuxkm.nand.sh:2565
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #phoenix(1): [+nt]
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #solaris(1): [+nrt] Welcome to #solaris - This channel is for discussing Oracle Solaris and it's components - Download: https://www.oracle.com/solaris/solaris11/
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #twtxt(1): [+nt]
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #summit(3): [+nrt] Welcome to #summit - Main channel for the Summit Project - Ask your question, stick around if someone doesn't respond right away - https://www.summit.tildex.com
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #ctrl-c(12): [+nrt] Official channel for Ctrl-C.club -- A place for the curious to poke and play
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #shitposting(7): [+nt]
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #thunix(29): [+nrt] Welcome to thunix! | Website: https://www.thunix.net/ | Signup: https://www.thunix.net/signup | Package/Service Request (Issue or Pull Request): https://tildegit.org/thunix/ansible | Terms of Service: https://www.thunix.net/tos | Administrators: ubergeek, amcclure, naglfar, fosslinux
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #flashgames(1): [+nt]
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #bots(38): [+Anrt] put your bots here thanks https://tilde.chat/wiki/?page=bots
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #bogustrivia_testing(1): [+nt]
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #theasylum-minetest(4): [+nrt]
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #blamejan6(1): [+nt]
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #minetest(4): [+nrt] server: minetest://minetest.tildeverse.org | mumble.tilde.chat | see #minecraft for minecraft
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #tildecoin(1): [+nt]
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #tilderadio(39): [+Anrt] Tilderadio - a hacker's excuse for radio | DJs in demand! DM deepend or ben for more information. https://tilderadio.org | sign up for a time slot here: https://bhh.sh/radio
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #stevenuniverse(1): [+nt]
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- #vim(11): [+nt] vim is for lovers! <3
+2019-08-03 11:13:23 -- End of channel list.
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+2019-08-03 12:13:44 -- team.tilde.chat message of the day
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+2019-08-03 12:13:44 -- -
+2019-08-03 12:13:44 -- - welcome to tilde.chat (hosted on tilde.team)
+2019-08-03 12:13:44 -- - this is the irc network for the https://tildeverse.org
+2019-08-03 12:13:44 -- -
+2019-08-03 12:13:44 -- - check out the appropriate channel for your tilde:
+2019-08-03 12:13:44 -- -
+2019-08-03 12:13:44 -- - - aussies.space ~> #aussie
+2019-08-03 12:13:44 -- - - cosmic.voyage ~> #cosmic
+2019-08-03 12:13:44 -- - - ctrl-c.club ~> #ctrl-c
+2019-08-03 12:13:44 -- - - radiofreqs.space ~> #radiofreqs
+2019-08-03 12:13:44 -- - - thunix.net ~> #thunix
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+2019-08-03 12:13:44 -- - - tilde.institute ~> #institute
+2019-08-03 12:13:44 -- - - tilde.team ~> #team
+2019-08-03 12:13:44 -- - - tilde.town ~> #town
+2019-08-03 12:13:44 -- - - yourtilde.com ~> #yourtilde
+2019-08-03 12:13:44 -- -
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+2019-08-03 12:13:44 -- - check out https://tilde.chat/stats/ for more channel info
+2019-08-03 12:13:44 -- -
+2019-08-03 12:13:44 -- - check out #tilderadio for the new tildeverse internet radio station!
+2019-08-03 12:13:44 -- -
+2019-08-03 12:13:44 -- - msg an oper if you need anything and
+2019-08-03 12:13:44 -- -
+2019-08-03 12:13:44 -- - ~~ be excellent to each other ~~
+2019-08-03 12:13:44 -- -
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+2019-08-03 17:09:46 -- irc: connecting to server localhost/6667...
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+2019-08-03 17:09:47 -- Welcome to the tilde.chat IRC Network zack1!zack@127.0.0.1
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+2019-08-03 17:09:47 -- team.tilde.chat message of the day
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+2019-08-03 17:09:47 -- -
+2019-08-03 17:09:47 -- - welcome to tilde.chat (hosted on tilde.team)
+2019-08-03 17:09:47 -- - this is the irc network for the https://tildeverse.org
+2019-08-03 17:09:47 -- -
+2019-08-03 17:09:47 -- - check out the appropriate channel for your tilde:
+2019-08-03 17:09:47 -- -
+2019-08-03 17:09:47 -- - - aussies.space ~> #aussie
+2019-08-03 17:09:47 -- - - cosmic.voyage ~> #cosmic
+2019-08-03 17:09:47 -- - - ctrl-c.club ~> #ctrl-c
+2019-08-03 17:09:47 -- - - radiofreqs.space ~> #radiofreqs
+2019-08-03 17:09:47 -- - - thunix.net ~> #thunix
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+2019-08-03 17:09:47 -- - - yourtilde.com ~> #yourtilde
+2019-08-03 17:09:47 -- -
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+2019-08-03 17:09:47 -- - check out https://tilde.chat/stats/ for more channel info
+2019-08-03 17:09:47 -- -
+2019-08-03 17:09:47 -- - check out #tilderadio for the new tildeverse internet radio station!
+2019-08-03 17:09:47 -- -
+2019-08-03 17:09:47 -- - msg an oper if you need anything and
+2019-08-03 17:09:47 -- -
+2019-08-03 17:09:47 -- - ~~ be excellent to each other ~~
+2019-08-03 17:09:47 -- -
+2019-08-03 17:09:47 -- End of message of the day.
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+2019-08-04 13:02:41 -- team.tilde.chat message of the day
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+2019-08-04 13:02:41 -- -
+2019-08-04 13:02:41 -- - welcome to tilde.chat (hosted on tilde.team)
+2019-08-04 13:02:41 -- - this is the irc network for the https://tildeverse.org
+2019-08-04 13:02:41 -- -
+2019-08-04 13:02:41 -- - check out the appropriate channel for your tilde:
+2019-08-04 13:02:41 -- -
+2019-08-04 13:02:41 -- - - aussies.space ~> #aussie
+2019-08-04 13:02:41 -- - - cosmic.voyage ~> #cosmic
+2019-08-04 13:02:41 -- - - ctrl-c.club ~> #ctrl-c
+2019-08-04 13:02:41 -- - - radiofreqs.space ~> #radiofreqs
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+2019-08-04 13:02:41 -- - - yourtilde.com ~> #yourtilde
+2019-08-04 13:02:41 -- -
+2019-08-04 13:02:41 -- - the main lobby channel is #meta. check /list for the other channels
+2019-08-04 13:02:41 -- - check out https://tilde.chat/stats/ for more channel info
+2019-08-04 13:02:41 -- -
+2019-08-04 13:02:41 -- - check out #tilderadio for the new tildeverse internet radio station!
+2019-08-04 13:02:41 -- -
+2019-08-04 13:02:41 -- - msg an oper if you need anything and
+2019-08-04 13:02:41 -- -
+2019-08-04 13:02:41 -- - ~~ be excellent to each other ~~
+2019-08-04 13:02:41 -- -
+2019-08-04 13:02:41 -- End of message of the day.
+2019-08-04 13:02:41 -- team.tilde.chat: Setting your virtual host: tilde.team
+2019-08-04 13:02:41 -- tilde.team :is now your displayed host
+2019-08-04 13:02:41 -- NickServ (services@services.tilde.chat): Your nickname is not registered. To register it, use: /msg NickServ REGISTER password email
+2019-08-05 10:33:47 -- irc: connecting to server localhost/6667...
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+2019-08-05 10:33:48 -- irc: client capability, server supports: extended-join server-time message-tags echo-message tls invite-notify account-tag multi-prefix batch account-notify userhost-in-names chghost sasl sts=port=6697 cap-notify away-notify
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+2019-08-05 10:33:49 -- team.tilde.chat: *** Found your ident, 'zack'
+2019-08-05 10:33:49 -- Welcome to the tilde.chat IRC Network zack1!zack@127.0.0.1
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+2019-08-05 10:33:49 -- - / /____ ____ _____ ___ / /_(_) /___/ /__ _____/ /_ ____ _/ /_
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+2019-08-05 10:33:49 -- -
+2019-08-05 10:33:49 -- - welcome to tilde.chat (hosted on tilde.team)
+2019-08-05 10:33:49 -- - this is the irc network for the https://tildeverse.org
+2019-08-05 10:33:49 -- -
+2019-08-05 10:33:49 -- - check out the appropriate channel for your tilde:
+2019-08-05 10:33:49 -- -
+2019-08-05 10:33:49 -- - - aussies.space ~> #aussie
+2019-08-05 10:33:49 -- - - cosmic.voyage ~> #cosmic
+2019-08-05 10:33:49 -- - - ctrl-c.club ~> #ctrl-c
+2019-08-05 10:33:49 -- - - radiofreqs.space ~> #radiofreqs
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+2019-08-05 10:33:49 -- - - yourtilde.com ~> #yourtilde
+2019-08-05 10:33:49 -- -
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+2019-08-05 10:33:49 -- - check out https://tilde.chat/stats/ for more channel info
+2019-08-05 10:33:49 -- -
+2019-08-05 10:33:49 -- - check out #tilderadio for the new tildeverse internet radio station!
+2019-08-05 10:33:49 -- -
+2019-08-05 10:33:49 -- - msg an oper if you need anything and
+2019-08-05 10:33:49 -- -
+2019-08-05 10:33:49 -- - ~~ be excellent to each other ~~
+2019-08-05 10:33:49 -- -
+2019-08-05 10:33:49 -- End of message of the day.
+2019-08-05 10:33:49 -- team.tilde.chat: Setting your virtual host: tilde.team
+2019-08-05 10:33:49 -- tilde.team :is now your displayed host
+2019-08-05 10:33:49 -- NickServ (services@services.tilde.chat): Your nickname is not registered. To register it, use: /msg NickServ REGISTER password email
+2019-08-10 09:12:32 -- irc: connecting to server localhost/6667...
+2019-08-10 09:12:32 -- irc: connected to localhost/6667 (127.0.0.1)
+2019-08-10 09:12:32 -- team.tilde.chat: *** Looking up your ident...
+2019-08-10 09:12:32 -- team.tilde.chat: *** Looking up your hostname...
+2019-08-10 09:12:32 -- team.tilde.chat: *** Could not resolve your hostname: Malformed answer; using your IP address (127.0.0.1) instead.
+2019-08-10 09:12:32 -- irc: client capability, server supports: extended-join server-time message-tags echo-message tls invite-notify account-tag multi-prefix batch account-notify userhost-in-names chghost sasl sts=port=6697 cap-notify away-notify
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+2019-08-10 09:12:33 -- team.tilde.chat: *** Found your ident, 'zack'
+2019-08-10 09:12:33 -- Welcome to the tilde.chat IRC Network zack1!zack@127.0.0.1
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+2019-08-10 09:12:33 -- This server was created 19:03:06 Jul 15 2019
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+2019-08-10 09:12:33 -- 1 :unknown connections
+2019-08-10 09:12:33 -- 141 :channels formed
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+2019-08-10 09:12:33 -- Current local users: 73 Max: 75
+2019-08-10 09:12:33 -- Current global users: 256 Max: 261
+2019-08-10 09:12:33 -- team.tilde.chat message of the day
+2019-08-10 09:12:33 -- - __ __ _ __ __ __ __
+2019-08-10 09:12:33 -- - / /____ ____ _____ ___ / /_(_) /___/ /__ _____/ /_ ____ _/ /_
+2019-08-10 09:12:33 -- - / __/ _ \/ __ `/ __ `__ \ / __/ / / __ / _ \ / ___/ __ \/ __ `/ __/
+2019-08-10 09:12:33 -- - / /_/ __/ /_/ / / / / / // /_/ / / /_/ / __// /__/ / / / /_/ / /_
+2019-08-10 09:12:33 -- - \__/\___/\__,_/_/ /_/ /_(_)__/_/_/\__,_/\___(_)___/_/ /_/\__,_/\__/
+2019-08-10 09:12:33 -- -
+2019-08-10 09:12:33 -- - welcome to tilde.chat (hosted on tilde.team)
+2019-08-10 09:12:33 -- - this is the irc network for the https://tildeverse.org
+2019-08-10 09:12:33 -- -
+2019-08-10 09:12:33 -- - check out the appropriate channel for your tilde:
+2019-08-10 09:12:33 -- -
+2019-08-10 09:12:33 -- - - aussies.space ~> #aussie
+2019-08-10 09:12:33 -- - - cosmic.voyage ~> #cosmic
+2019-08-10 09:12:33 -- - - ctrl-c.club ~> #ctrl-c
+2019-08-10 09:12:33 -- - - radiofreqs.space ~> #radiofreqs
+2019-08-10 09:12:33 -- - - thunix.net ~> #thunix
+2019-08-10 09:12:33 -- - - tilde.center ~> #center
+2019-08-10 09:12:33 -- - - tilde.institute ~> #institute
+2019-08-10 09:12:33 -- - - tilde.team ~> #team
+2019-08-10 09:12:33 -- - - tilde.town ~> #town
+2019-08-10 09:12:33 -- - - yourtilde.com ~> #yourtilde
+2019-08-10 09:12:33 -- -
+2019-08-10 09:12:33 -- - the main lobby channel is #meta. check /list for the other channels
+2019-08-10 09:12:33 -- - check out https://tilde.chat/stats/ for more channel info
+2019-08-10 09:12:33 -- -
+2019-08-10 09:12:33 -- - check out #tilderadio for the new tildeverse internet radio station!
+2019-08-10 09:12:33 -- -
+2019-08-10 09:12:33 -- - msg an oper if you need anything and
+2019-08-10 09:12:33 -- -
+2019-08-10 09:12:33 -- - ~~ be excellent to each other ~~
+2019-08-10 09:12:33 -- -
+2019-08-10 09:12:33 -- End of message of the day.
+2019-08-10 09:12:33 -- team.tilde.chat: Setting your virtual host: tilde.team
+2019-08-10 09:12:33 -- tilde.team :is now your displayed host
+2019-08-10 09:12:33 -- NickServ (services@services.tilde.chat): Your nickname is not registered. To register it, use: /msg NickServ REGISTER password email
+2019-08-11 08:24:39 -- irc: connecting to server localhost/6667...
+2019-08-11 08:24:39 -- irc: connected to localhost/6667 (127.0.0.1)
+2019-08-11 08:24:39 -- team.tilde.chat: *** Looking up your ident...
+2019-08-11 08:24:39 -- team.tilde.chat: *** Looking up your hostname...
+2019-08-11 08:24:39 -- team.tilde.chat: *** Could not resolve your hostname: Malformed answer; using your IP address (127.0.0.1) instead.
+2019-08-11 08:24:39 -- irc: client capability, server supports: extended-join server-time message-tags echo-message tls invite-notify account-tag multi-prefix batch account-notify userhost-in-names chghost sasl sts=port=6697 cap-notify away-notify
+2019-08-11 08:24:39 -- irc: client capability, requesting: account-notify away-notify cap-notify chghost extended-join invite-notify multi-prefix server-time userhost-in-names
+2019-08-11 08:24:39 -- irc: nickname "zack" is already in use, trying nickname "zack1"
+2019-08-11 08:24:39 -- irc: client capability, enabled: account-notify away-notify cap-notify chghost extended-join invite-notify multi-prefix server-time userhost-in-names
+2019-08-11 08:24:40 -- team.tilde.chat: *** Found your ident, 'zack'
+2019-08-11 08:24:40 -- Welcome to the tilde.chat IRC Network zack1!zack@127.0.0.1
+2019-08-11 08:24:40 -- Your host is team.tilde.chat, running version InspIRCd-3
+2019-08-11 08:24:40 -- This server was created 19:03:06 Jul 15 2019
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+2019-08-11 08:24:40 -- SECURELIST SILENCE=32 STATUSMSG=!~&@%+ TOPICLEN=307 UHNAMES USERIP USERLEN=11 VBANLIST WATCH=30 WHOX :are supported by this server
+2019-08-11 08:24:40 -- There are 227 users and 27 invisible on 12 servers
+2019-08-11 08:24:40 -- 10 :operator(s) online
+2019-08-11 08:24:40 -- 1 :unknown connections
+2019-08-11 08:24:40 -- 141 :channels formed
+2019-08-11 08:24:40 -- I have 76 clients and 1 servers
+2019-08-11 08:24:40 -- Current local users: 76 Max: 76
+2019-08-11 08:24:40 -- Current global users: 254 Max: 261
+2019-08-11 08:24:40 -- team.tilde.chat message of the day
+2019-08-11 08:24:40 -- - __ __ _ __ __ __ __
+2019-08-11 08:24:40 -- - / /____ ____ _____ ___ / /_(_) /___/ /__ _____/ /_ ____ _/ /_
+2019-08-11 08:24:40 -- - / __/ _ \/ __ `/ __ `__ \ / __/ / / __ / _ \ / ___/ __ \/ __ `/ __/
+2019-08-11 08:24:40 -- - / /_/ __/ /_/ / / / / / // /_/ / / /_/ / __// /__/ / / / /_/ / /_
+2019-08-11 08:24:40 -- - \__/\___/\__,_/_/ /_/ /_(_)__/_/_/\__,_/\___(_)___/_/ /_/\__,_/\__/
+2019-08-11 08:24:40 -- -
+2019-08-11 08:24:40 -- - welcome to tilde.chat (hosted on tilde.team)
+2019-08-11 08:24:40 -- - this is the irc network for the https://tildeverse.org
+2019-08-11 08:24:40 -- -
+2019-08-11 08:24:40 -- - check out the appropriate channel for your tilde:
+2019-08-11 08:24:40 -- -
+2019-08-11 08:24:40 -- - - aussies.space ~> #aussie
+2019-08-11 08:24:40 -- - - cosmic.voyage ~> #cosmic
+2019-08-11 08:24:40 -- - - ctrl-c.club ~> #ctrl-c
+2019-08-11 08:24:40 -- - - radiofreqs.space ~> #radiofreqs
+2019-08-11 08:24:40 -- - - thunix.net ~> #thunix
+2019-08-11 08:24:40 -- - - tilde.center ~> #center
+2019-08-11 08:24:40 -- - - tilde.institute ~> #institute
+2019-08-11 08:24:40 -- - - tilde.team ~> #team
+2019-08-11 08:24:40 -- - - tilde.town ~> #town
+2019-08-11 08:24:40 -- - - yourtilde.com ~> #yourtilde
+2019-08-11 08:24:40 -- -
+2019-08-11 08:24:40 -- - the main lobby channel is #meta. check /list for the other channels
+2019-08-11 08:24:40 -- - check out https://tilde.chat/stats/ for more channel info
+2019-08-11 08:24:40 -- -
+2019-08-11 08:24:40 -- - check out #tilderadio for the new tildeverse internet radio station!
+2019-08-11 08:24:40 -- -
+2019-08-11 08:24:40 -- - msg an oper if you need anything and
+2019-08-11 08:24:40 -- -
+2019-08-11 08:24:40 -- - ~~ be excellent to each other ~~
+2019-08-11 08:24:40 -- -
+2019-08-11 08:24:40 -- End of message of the day.
+2019-08-11 08:24:40 -- team.tilde.chat: Setting your virtual host: tilde.team
+2019-08-11 08:24:40 -- tilde.team :is now your displayed host
+2019-08-11 08:24:40 -- NickServ (services@services.tilde.chat): Your nickname is not registered. To register it, use: /msg NickServ REGISTER password email
+2019-08-12 08:34:54 -- irc: connecting to server localhost/6667...
+2019-08-12 08:34:54 -- irc: connected to localhost/6667 (127.0.0.1)
+2019-08-12 08:34:54 -- team.tilde.chat: *** Looking up your ident...
+2019-08-12 08:34:54 -- team.tilde.chat: *** Looking up your hostname...
+2019-08-12 08:34:54 -- team.tilde.chat: *** Could not resolve your hostname: Malformed answer; using your IP address (127.0.0.1) instead.
+2019-08-12 08:34:54 -- irc: client capability, server supports: extended-join server-time message-tags echo-message tls invite-notify account-tag multi-prefix batch account-notify userhost-in-names chghost sasl sts=port=6697 cap-notify away-notify
+2019-08-12 08:34:54 -- irc: client capability, requesting: account-notify away-notify cap-notify chghost extended-join invite-notify multi-prefix server-time userhost-in-names
+2019-08-12 08:34:54 -- irc: nickname "zack" is already in use, trying nickname "zack1"
+2019-08-12 08:34:54 -- irc: client capability, enabled: account-notify away-notify cap-notify chghost extended-join invite-notify multi-prefix server-time userhost-in-names
+2019-08-12 08:34:55 -- team.tilde.chat: *** Found your ident, 'zack'
+2019-08-12 08:34:55 -- Welcome to the tilde.chat IRC Network zack1!zack@127.0.0.1
+2019-08-12 08:34:55 -- Your host is team.tilde.chat, running version InspIRCd-3
+2019-08-12 08:34:55 -- This server was created 19:03:06 Jul 15 2019
+2019-08-12 08:34:55 -- team.tilde.chat InspIRCd-3 BILRSWchiorswz ABEFHIJLMNOQRSTYabcefghijklmnopqrstuvz :BEFHIJLYabefghjkloqv
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+2019-08-12 08:34:55 -- KEYLEN=32 KICKLEN=255 LINELEN=512 MAXLIST=Ibeg:100 MAXTARGETS=20 MODES=20 MONITOR=30 NAMESX NETWORK=tilde.chat NICKLEN=31 PREFIX=(Yqaohv)!~&@%+ REMOVE SAFELIST :are supported by this server
+2019-08-12 08:34:55 -- SECURELIST SILENCE=32 STATUSMSG=!~&@%+ TOPICLEN=307 UHNAMES USERIP USERLEN=11 VBANLIST WATCH=30 WHOX :are supported by this server
+2019-08-12 08:34:55 -- There are 230 users and 28 invisible on 12 servers
+2019-08-12 08:34:55 -- 10 :operator(s) online
+2019-08-12 08:34:55 -- 1 :unknown connections
+2019-08-12 08:34:55 -- 140 :channels formed
+2019-08-12 08:34:55 -- I have 75 clients and 1 servers
+2019-08-12 08:34:55 -- Current local users: 75 Max: 77
+2019-08-12 08:34:55 -- Current global users: 258 Max: 261
+2019-08-12 08:34:55 -- team.tilde.chat message of the day
+2019-08-12 08:34:55 -- - __ __ _ __ __ __ __
+2019-08-12 08:34:55 -- - / /____ ____ _____ ___ / /_(_) /___/ /__ _____/ /_ ____ _/ /_
+2019-08-12 08:34:55 -- - / __/ _ \/ __ `/ __ `__ \ / __/ / / __ / _ \ / ___/ __ \/ __ `/ __/
+2019-08-12 08:34:55 -- - / /_/ __/ /_/ / / / / / // /_/ / / /_/ / __// /__/ / / / /_/ / /_
+2019-08-12 08:34:55 -- - \__/\___/\__,_/_/ /_/ /_(_)__/_/_/\__,_/\___(_)___/_/ /_/\__,_/\__/
+2019-08-12 08:34:55 -- -
+2019-08-12 08:34:55 -- - welcome to tilde.chat (hosted on tilde.team)
+2019-08-12 08:34:55 -- - this is the irc network for the https://tildeverse.org
+2019-08-12 08:34:55 -- -
+2019-08-12 08:34:55 -- - check out the appropriate channel for your tilde:
+2019-08-12 08:34:55 -- -
+2019-08-12 08:34:55 -- - - aussies.space ~> #aussie
+2019-08-12 08:34:55 -- - - cosmic.voyage ~> #cosmic
+2019-08-12 08:34:55 -- - - ctrl-c.club ~> #ctrl-c
+2019-08-12 08:34:55 -- - - radiofreqs.space ~> #radiofreqs
+2019-08-12 08:34:55 -- - - thunix.net ~> #thunix
+2019-08-12 08:34:55 -- - - tilde.center ~> #center
+2019-08-12 08:34:55 -- - - tilde.institute ~> #institute
+2019-08-12 08:34:55 -- - - tilde.team ~> #team
+2019-08-12 08:34:55 -- - - tilde.town ~> #town
+2019-08-12 08:34:55 -- - - yourtilde.com ~> #yourtilde
+2019-08-12 08:34:55 -- -
+2019-08-12 08:34:55 -- - the main lobby channel is #meta. check /list for the other channels
+2019-08-12 08:34:55 -- - check out https://tilde.chat/stats/ for more channel info
+2019-08-12 08:34:55 -- -
+2019-08-12 08:34:55 -- - check out #tilderadio for the new tildeverse internet radio station!
+2019-08-12 08:34:55 -- -
+2019-08-12 08:34:55 -- - msg an oper if you need anything and
+2019-08-12 08:34:55 -- -
+2019-08-12 08:34:55 -- - ~~ be excellent to each other ~~
+2019-08-12 08:34:55 -- -
+2019-08-12 08:34:55 -- End of message of the day.
+2019-08-12 08:34:55 -- team.tilde.chat: Setting your virtual host: tilde.team
+2019-08-12 08:34:55 -- tilde.team :is now your displayed host
+2019-08-12 08:34:55 -- NickServ (services@services.tilde.chat): Your nickname is not registered. To register it, use: /msg NickServ REGISTER password email
+2019-08-12 11:22:32 -- irc: connecting to server localhost/6667...
+2019-08-12 11:22:32 -- irc: connected to localhost/6667 (127.0.0.1)
+2019-08-12 11:22:32 -- team.tilde.chat: *** Looking up your ident...
+2019-08-12 11:22:32 -- team.tilde.chat: *** Looking up your hostname...
+2019-08-12 11:22:32 -- team.tilde.chat: *** Could not resolve your hostname: Malformed answer; using your IP address (127.0.0.1) instead.
+2019-08-12 11:22:32 -- irc: client capability, server supports: extended-join server-time message-tags echo-message tls invite-notify account-tag multi-prefix batch account-notify userhost-in-names chghost sasl sts=port=6697 cap-notify away-notify
+2019-08-12 11:22:32 -- irc: client capability, requesting: account-notify away-notify cap-notify chghost extended-join invite-notify multi-prefix server-time userhost-in-names
+2019-08-12 11:22:32 -- irc: nickname "zack" is already in use, trying nickname "zack1"
+2019-08-12 11:22:32 -- irc: client capability, enabled: account-notify away-notify cap-notify chghost extended-join invite-notify multi-prefix server-time userhost-in-names
+2019-08-12 11:22:33 -- team.tilde.chat: *** Found your ident, 'zack'
+2019-08-12 11:22:33 -- Welcome to the tilde.chat IRC Network zack1!zack@127.0.0.1
+2019-08-12 11:22:33 -- Your host is team.tilde.chat, running version InspIRCd-3
+2019-08-12 11:22:33 -- This server was created 19:03:06 Jul 15 2019
+2019-08-12 11:22:33 -- team.tilde.chat InspIRCd-3 BILRSWchiorswz ABEFHIJLMNOQRSTYabcefghijklmnopqrstuvz :BEFHIJLYabefghjkloqv
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+2019-08-12 11:22:33 -- KEYLEN=32 KICKLEN=255 LINELEN=512 MAXLIST=Ibeg:100 MAXTARGETS=20 MODES=20 MONITOR=30 NAMESX NETWORK=tilde.chat NICKLEN=31 PREFIX=(Yqaohv)!~&@%+ REMOVE SAFELIST :are supported by this server
+2019-08-12 11:22:33 -- SECURELIST SILENCE=32 STATUSMSG=!~&@%+ TOPICLEN=307 UHNAMES USERIP USERLEN=11 VBANLIST WATCH=30 WHOX :are supported by this server
+2019-08-12 11:22:33 -- There are 229 users and 29 invisible on 12 servers
+2019-08-12 11:22:33 -- 10 :operator(s) online
+2019-08-12 11:22:33 -- 1 :unknown connections
+2019-08-12 11:22:33 -- 137 :channels formed
+2019-08-12 11:22:33 -- I have 75 clients and 1 servers
+2019-08-12 11:22:33 -- Current local users: 75 Max: 77
+2019-08-12 11:22:33 -- Current global users: 258 Max: 262
+2019-08-12 11:22:33 -- team.tilde.chat message of the day
+2019-08-12 11:22:33 -- - __ __ _ __ __ __ __
+2019-08-12 11:22:33 -- - / /____ ____ _____ ___ / /_(_) /___/ /__ _____/ /_ ____ _/ /_
+2019-08-12 11:22:33 -- - / __/ _ \/ __ `/ __ `__ \ / __/ / / __ / _ \ / ___/ __ \/ __ `/ __/
+2019-08-12 11:22:33 -- - / /_/ __/ /_/ / / / / / // /_/ / / /_/ / __// /__/ / / / /_/ / /_
+2019-08-12 11:22:33 -- - \__/\___/\__,_/_/ /_/ /_(_)__/_/_/\__,_/\___(_)___/_/ /_/\__,_/\__/
+2019-08-12 11:22:33 -- -
+2019-08-12 11:22:33 -- - welcome to tilde.chat (hosted on tilde.team)
+2019-08-12 11:22:33 -- - this is the irc network for the https://tildeverse.org
+2019-08-12 11:22:33 -- -
+2019-08-12 11:22:33 -- - check out the appropriate channel for your tilde:
+2019-08-12 11:22:33 -- -
+2019-08-12 11:22:33 -- - - aussies.space ~> #aussie
+2019-08-12 11:22:33 -- - - cosmic.voyage ~> #cosmic
+2019-08-12 11:22:33 -- - - ctrl-c.club ~> #ctrl-c
+2019-08-12 11:22:33 -- - - radiofreqs.space ~> #radiofreqs
+2019-08-12 11:22:33 -- - - thunix.net ~> #thunix
+2019-08-12 11:22:33 -- - - tilde.center ~> #center
+2019-08-12 11:22:33 -- - - tilde.institute ~> #institute
+2019-08-12 11:22:33 -- - - tilde.team ~> #team
+2019-08-12 11:22:33 -- - - tilde.town ~> #town
+2019-08-12 11:22:33 -- - - yourtilde.com ~> #yourtilde
+2019-08-12 11:22:33 -- -
+2019-08-12 11:22:33 -- - the main lobby channel is #meta. check /list for the other channels
+2019-08-12 11:22:33 -- - check out https://tilde.chat/stats/ for more channel info
+2019-08-12 11:22:33 -- -
+2019-08-12 11:22:33 -- - check out #tilderadio for the new tildeverse internet radio station!
+2019-08-12 11:22:33 -- -
+2019-08-12 11:22:33 -- - msg an oper if you need anything and
+2019-08-12 11:22:33 -- -
+2019-08-12 11:22:33 -- - ~~ be excellent to each other ~~
+2019-08-12 11:22:33 -- -
+2019-08-12 11:22:33 -- End of message of the day.
+2019-08-12 11:22:33 -- team.tilde.chat: Setting your virtual host: tilde.team
+2019-08-12 11:22:33 -- tilde.team :is now your displayed host
+2019-08-12 11:22:33 -- NickServ (services@services.tilde.chat): Your nickname is not registered. To register it, use: /msg NickServ REGISTER password email
diff --git a/.weechat/logs/irc.tilde.#meta.weechatlog b/.weechat/logs/irc.tilde.#meta.weechatlog
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+2019-08-02 13:59:12 --> zack (zack) (zack@tilde.team) has joined #meta
+2019-08-02 13:59:12 -- Topic for #meta is "https://tildeverse.org general chat: https://tilde.chat ~ etiquette: https://ttm.sh/etiquette ~ ,ops to ping ops, don't use unnessecarily"
+2019-08-02 13:59:12 -- Topic set by fosslinux (~fosslinux@oper.tilde.chat) on Thu, 11 Jul 2019 18:04:23
+2019-08-02 13:59:12 -- Channel #meta: 144 nicks (13 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 131 normals)
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+2019-08-02 14:01:05 BitBot (tildeverse/rfcs) [PR] k‌huxkm commented on #9: WIP: rfc.tildeverse.org is a static website powered by Zola! - https://tildegit.org/tildeverse/rfcs/pulls/9#issuecomment-2075
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+2019-08-02 14:16:45 threv oh that's cool af
+2019-08-02 14:17:25 ~ben zola seems super nice
+2019-08-02 14:17:51 threv the rfc itself
+2019-08-02 14:17:57 threv rfcs site that is
+2019-08-02 14:18:14 krowbar z-o-l-a, zoooola?
+2019-08-02 14:18:19 ~ben submit ur rfcs now!!1
+2019-08-02 14:18:26 krowbar all the comments!
+2019-08-02 14:19:32 @cmccabe she walks like a woman but talks like a man, zola. z-o-l-a zola.
+2019-08-02 14:19:49 @cmccabe is that what you were getting at, krowbar?
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+2019-08-02 14:22:33 * krowbar smiles. perhaps. or "yoda" or "soda"
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+2019-08-02 14:27:49 echelon fuck slack
+2019-08-02 14:28:10 ~ben is it better than webex teams though
+2019-08-02 14:28:15 ~ben webex teams also sucks big time
+2019-08-02 14:28:20 ~ben but it does have darkmode
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+2019-08-02 14:35:01 robdrake Hello, I need more sleep this morning, so I let my roommate on my laptop, w/o root access, to play chess
+2019-08-02 14:35:01 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-02 14:35:04 robdrake ,bef
+2019-08-02 14:35:05 BitBot [Ducks] robdrake befriended a duck in 3.55 seconds! You've befriended 13 ducks in #meta!
+2019-08-02 14:39:38 echelon oh dear
+2019-08-02 14:39:49 echelon pry root from my cold dead hands
+2019-08-02 14:40:43 krowbar ben: my main beef with webex teams was that we wouldn't spring for the feature that allowed for persistent chat rooms. but there were also sunsetting that feature anyway
+2019-08-02 14:41:00 ~ben persistent rooms?
+2019-08-02 14:41:07 ~ben that's what they all are
+2019-08-02 14:41:09 ~ben i think?
+2019-08-02 14:41:27 krowbar sorry, sorry. i was thinking of the cisco solution we had
+2019-08-02 14:41:47 ~ben oh jabber?
+2019-08-02 14:41:50 ~ben we used to have that too
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+2019-08-02 15:24:42 -- Topic set by fosslinux (~fosslinux@oper.tilde.chat) on Thu, 11 Jul 2019 18:04:23
+2019-08-02 15:24:42 -- Channel #meta: 149 nicks (13 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 136 normals)
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+2019-08-02 15:52:19 siina ,w
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+2019-08-02 16:11:26 ~ben ooh chully
+2019-08-02 16:11:29 ~ben chilly
+2019-08-02 16:11:33 ~ben ,w
+2019-08-02 16:11:34 BitBot [Weather|ben] (Traverse City, Michigan, USA) 27C/81F | Scattered Clouds | Humidity: 32% | Wind: 27.0KMh/16.8MPh
+2019-08-02 16:11:40 ~ben pretty warm here
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+2019-08-03 08:39:26 -- Topic set by fosslinux (~fosslinux@oper.tilde.chat) on Thu, 11 Jul 2019 18:04:23
+2019-08-03 08:39:26 -- Channel #meta: 152 nicks (14 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 138 normals)
+2019-08-03 08:39:28 -- Channel created on Tue, 19 Jun 2018 00:25:04
+2019-08-03 08:43:03 zeth o/
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+2019-08-03 08:58:13 BitBot (tildeverse/rfcs) [issue] southerntofu commented on #10: A new RFC for making RFCs? - https://tildegit.org/tildeverse/rfcs/issues/10#issuecomment-2081
+2019-08-03 08:58:15 zeth I wonder, is there some kind of documentation in regards of routing sound from let's say mpd, to "virtual microphone" input of some other application like let's say discord? I know there's da wae on windows, but not sure about linux
+2019-08-03 09:02:59 robdrake morning
+2019-08-03 09:03:23 developer Hello
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+2019-08-03 09:06:10 developer tomasino: Good link on the email idea. That may solve a problem for me. :)
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+2019-08-03 11:03:58 demure https://imgur.com/gallery/eHo6ZYz
+2019-08-03 11:03:59 BitBot [Title] Cleaning the apartment. - Album on Imgur - https://ttm.sh/WP
+2019-08-03 11:18:27 praetor 'morning y'all :3
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+2019-08-03 11:20:16 echelon lol
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+2019-08-03 11:20:33 echelon the same trolls on IRC always attackin' when their own boring lonely existance becomes even more boring
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+2019-08-03 11:22:28 praetor ohhh....SPLIT
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+2019-08-03 11:48:11 echelon backbone blipped a second
+2019-08-03 11:48:22 echelon this happened on multiple networks
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+2019-08-03 11:55:42 zeth huh
+2019-08-03 11:55:47 zeth Yeah saw that
+2019-08-03 11:57:10 Wallet praetor saying hi = server splits
+2019-08-03 11:57:14 Wallet praetor, stop say hi
+2019-08-03 11:57:24 kirch got vagrant working in tangent w/ WSL; and now I'm installing docker on the VM -- gonna find out out real quick if I got enough RAM
+2019-08-03 11:57:34 kirch still trying to figure out how to get WSL to work with CMD.exe, so I don't have a CMD.exe sitting around somewhere - but c'est la vie
+2019-08-03 12:01:36 snurryboy oh developer was it you that said newsbeuter for rss reader
+2019-08-03 12:01:51 snurryboy well it looks like newsboat is the fork and the one actively maintained
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+2019-08-03 12:13:44 -- Topic set by fosslinux (~fosslinux@oper.tilde.chat) on Thu, 11 Jul 2019 18:04:23
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+2019-08-03 17:09:47 -- Topic set by fosslinux (~fosslinux@oper.tilde.chat) on Thu, 11 Jul 2019 18:04:23
+2019-08-03 17:09:47 -- Channel #meta: 153 nicks (14 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 139 normals)
+2019-08-03 17:09:49 -- Channel created on Tue, 19 Jun 2018 00:25:04
+2019-08-03 17:10:50 ~tomasino you need to be a town member and connect from their tilde to reach their private irc chans
+2019-08-03 17:11:10 ~tomasino i've got a town account, but i connect from my own vps so i don't squat in #town
+2019-08-03 17:11:50 echelon membership sign up disabled
+2019-08-03 17:13:24 ~tomasino yah, vil's got a LOT of users already
+2019-08-03 17:13:43 ~tomasino http://tilde.town/tilde.json
+2019-08-03 17:15:07 ~tomasino 2000+ users
+2019-08-03 17:15:25 praetor wow
+2019-08-03 17:15:34 praetor hmm, lemme see if I can connect from my SGIs
+2019-08-03 17:15:52 praetor oh sweet. I can
+2019-08-03 17:21:30 praetor apparently town is part of the tildeverse irc
+2019-08-03 17:22:41 ~ahriman praetor: it is but they operate a second, private ircd
+2019-08-03 17:24:32 praetor weird. when you open weechat it auto connects to the tildeverse
+2019-08-03 17:25:27 ~ahriman you must have set that up, it should autoconnect to the private ircd, then tildeverse is opt-in
+2019-08-03 17:25:50 praetor there we go
+2019-08-03 17:26:56 echelon there are 2000 people active on that network?
+2019-08-03 17:27:13 echelon lol, makes me feel rather left out about private ircds and walled gardens
+2019-08-03 17:27:16 echelon or others
+2019-08-03 17:27:20 echelon again, devil's advocate
+2019-08-03 17:28:52 praetor there. some ssh tunneling love
+2019-08-03 17:29:38 echelon haha
+2019-08-03 17:33:38 ~ahriman hm, i didn't realize dung beetles walked backwards when rolling poo around
+2019-08-03 17:34:02 ~ahriman it's kind of silly looking
+2019-08-03 17:39:02 praetor kinda funny the ancient egyptians revered them
+2019-08-03 17:40:35 ~ahriman also i didnt realize the sahara is only 6,000 years old
+2019-08-03 17:40:48 ~ahriman so that means during most of human history it was lush grassland
+2019-08-03 17:41:00 ~ahriman no wonder ancient egypt thrived
+2019-08-03 17:41:15 ~ahriman #ThanksBBCEarth
+2019-08-03 17:41:47 ~ahriman wait, lemme double check those timelines
+2019-08-03 17:42:11 ~ahriman nevermind
+2019-08-03 17:42:20 ~ahriman old kingdom started around 3000BC
+2019-08-03 17:42:41 ~ahriman so 1000 years after desertification
+2019-08-03 17:42:44 ~ahriman dakn
+2019-08-03 17:42:46 ~ahriman damn
+2019-08-03 17:46:45 ~ahriman my electives in uni were in history, anthropology, and linguistics, so i eat this shit up
+2019-08-03 17:46:54 ~ahriman soooo interesting
+2019-08-03 17:56:25 ~ahriman praetor: it was becaused the sun was believed to be rolled over the sky in the fashion of the dung beetle rolling poo, which provides food for its young like the sun provides food for humans
+2019-08-03 17:58:20 praetor that makes so much more sense now. I could never understand why they revered a poop rolling beetle especially how anal retentive they were about cleanlines
+2019-08-03 17:59:57 ~ahriman much of human history is metaphor or allegory. "Shaka, when the walls fell"
+2019-08-03 18:00:10 ~ahriman s/history/historical culture/
+2019-08-03 18:00:10 timemachine much of human historical culture is metaphor or allegory. "Shaka, when the walls fell"
+2019-08-03 18:03:53 ~ahriman praetor: for a more recent example, spiderwebs in american houses. the tops of windows? http://www.noreast1.com/wn0235a.JPG
+2019-08-03 18:04:40 praetor oh, I get that. I mean, I'm a roman pagan. Plenty of allegory in that
+2019-08-03 18:06:08 ~ahriman nice
+2019-08-03 18:13:59 developer Hello to praetor and ahriman
+2019-08-03 18:14:15 ~ahriman hi developer - how goes it?
+2019-08-03 18:14:40 developer Good. Nice and hot here today.
+2019-08-03 18:14:48 ~ahriman ,w developer
+2019-08-03 18:14:48 BitBot [Weather] developer doesn't have a location set
+2019-08-03 18:14:52 praetor howdy developer
+2019-08-03 18:15:00 ~ahriman kinda warm here
+2019-08-03 18:15:03 ~ahriman ,w
+2019-08-03 18:15:03 BitBot [Weather|ahriman] (Atlanta, Georgia, USA) 29C/85F | Shower Rain | Humidity: 48% | Wind: 9.4KMh/5.8MPh
+2019-08-03 18:15:08 praetor ,w
+2019-08-03 18:15:08 BitBot [Weather|praetor] (Fort Worth, US) 31C/88F | Clear Sky | Humidity: 52% | Wind: 11.2KMh/6.9MPh
+2019-08-03 18:15:11 ~ahriman not too bad though
+2019-08-03 18:15:13 praetor it's cooler today
+2019-08-03 18:15:27 developer 96F or 36C
+2019-08-03 18:16:16 developer Ohh..you both understand fahrenheit
+2019-08-03 18:16:27 praetor yeah. we're americans :p
+2019-08-03 18:16:32 ~ahriman this time tomorrow i'll be in SF, which is currently ... 70 degrees. not bad.
+2019-08-03 18:16:42 developer I will have to set my location...anyway..Montana here
+2019-08-03 18:16:50 praetor nice :D
+2019-08-03 18:16:50 ~ahriman developer: i mean us internet-folk can understand both usually
+2019-08-03 18:16:57 developer True ^
+2019-08-03 18:17:14 developer I am on bitreich a lot too, so I do both
+2019-08-03 18:17:22 praetor I kinda can. It's hard to visualize that 30*C is actually warm
+2019-08-03 18:17:49 developer The damn Bitreich conference is this week-end, but they are 8 hours ahead of me.
+2019-08-03 18:18:00 ~ahriman daaamn that sucks
+2019-08-03 18:18:57 developer gopher://bitreich.org/1/con/2019
+2019-08-03 18:19:57 developer I got in at the end of the last presentation this morning, and demanded that they change the time next year, to coincide with US Mountain time.
+2019-08-03 18:25:23 developer Christoph got a kick out of that and mentioned it during the stream. He said the world does not revolve around the US. :)
+2019-08-03 18:25:48 ~ahriman haha
+2019-08-03 18:25:59 ~ahriman that's great
+2019-08-03 18:27:08 ~ahriman hmm, at 830, a presentation on unit testing. nifty.
+2019-08-03 18:27:16 ~ahriman 830 my time
+2019-08-03 18:27:35 developer It all started at 0200 my time.
+2019-08-03 18:27:52 developer They said the archives will be up by next week end.
+2019-08-03 18:27:59 ~ahriman oh wrong direction
+2019-08-03 18:28:03 ~ahriman fuck
+2019-08-03 18:28:06 ~ahriman im tired
+2019-08-03 18:28:20 ~ahriman it was at 830 this morning
+2019-08-03 18:28:52 developer Yes..I caught the tail end of it.
+2019-08-03 18:29:24 ~ahriman i could have but 1) didn't know it was going on 2) was running errands anyways
+2019-08-03 18:29:42 ~ahriman damn banks and stupid saturday hours
+2019-08-03 18:30:01 ~ahriman wE cLoSe aT 11AM convenient right?
+2019-08-03 18:30:44 developer Here is the audio stream link if you are up early tomorrow: http://bitreich.org:3232/live
+2019-08-03 18:31:03 developer Haha. Lame banks.
+2019-08-03 18:34:34 developer The presentations in the shell are great. I love the idea of a whole conference over ssh.
+2019-08-03 18:35:03 echelon presentations in shell?
+2019-08-03 18:35:04 echelon nice
+2019-08-03 18:36:36 developer Yeah...charts, graphics, even fake ads.
+2019-08-03 18:36:52 developer ssh visitor@bitreich.org
+2019-08-03 18:37:36 developer If you go there now, you can see the funny ads ^ ^
+2019-08-03 19:02:42 praetor aww. they released the name of the shooter in el paso, and now this other poor guy with the same name's facebook blew up
+2019-08-03 19:07:17 ~fosslinux :s
+2019-08-03 19:07:28 developer Typical
+2019-08-03 19:11:36 praetor I don't shop walmart. I've seen some crazy shit go down at walmarts.
+2019-08-03 19:13:52 praetor am I still on?
+2019-08-03 19:14:07 developer Yep
+2019-08-03 19:14:13 praetor I bonded my wifi adapter and my ethernet card in my laptop so I can hot swap my laptop
+2019-08-03 19:14:15 praetor sweet
+2019-08-03 19:14:37 developer Nice
+2019-08-03 19:14:48 praetor so when I take it off the dock it doesn't disconnect everything
+2019-08-03 19:18:56 ~fosslinux bonded?
+2019-08-03 19:21:15 echelon 865789yes
+2019-08-03 19:21:17 echelon lol
+2019-08-03 19:21:18 echelon sorry
+2019-08-03 19:21:34 praetor yes. it's when you join 2 nics into 1 logical one
+2019-08-03 19:22:20 ~fosslinux oo
+2019-08-03 19:22:34 praetor normally you'd do this with ethernet to double the bandwidth, or make one nic egress and the other ingress. but you can do that with wifi cards and ethernet and be able to "roam"
+2019-08-03 19:23:04 ~fosslinux which distro r u using?
+2019-08-03 19:23:08 praetor arch
+2019-08-03 19:23:12 praetor but any linux will do it
+2019-08-03 19:23:19 praetor or the bsds
+2019-08-03 19:23:35 ~fosslinux mhm the
+2019-08-03 19:25:58 praetor you can do all kinds of trippy shit with bonded nics
+2019-08-03 19:26:21 developer btw I don't use arch
+2019-08-03 19:26:28 praetor pleb
+2019-08-03 19:26:34 developer :)
+2019-08-03 19:26:41 clarjon1 i use it!
+2019-08-03 19:26:47 praetor :D
+2019-08-03 19:26:48 clarjon1 i realized i was relying on the arch wiki all the time for stuff
+2019-08-03 19:26:52 clarjon1 so i figured i'd take the plunge
+2019-08-03 19:26:57 developer Hopefully, not with riced i3
+2019-08-03 19:26:59 praetor arch has really good documentation
+2019-08-03 19:27:05 clarjon1 developer; kde
+2019-08-03 19:27:09 praetor openbox here
+2019-08-03 19:27:13 praetor I can't stand tiling wms
+2019-08-03 19:27:15 developer xfce here
+2019-08-03 19:27:31 developer I kinda like dwm, and used i3 for a while.
+2019-08-03 19:27:58 developer But I run tmux all the time, so no real need for tiles
+2019-08-03 19:28:38 developer praetor: I use Arch's wiki to find out how to finx all kinds of stuff for Debian.
+2019-08-03 19:28:52 praetor hehe I've done that
+2019-08-03 19:28:57 praetor the documentation is just so good
+2019-08-03 19:29:09 developer Between Arch wiki and digital ocean tuts, you can rule the world.
+2019-08-03 19:29:20 praetor this is true!
+2019-08-03 19:29:23 developer Agree ^
+2019-08-03 19:30:23 praetor if I was at my desk all the time, I'd probably like a tiling wm. I have a 21 and a 27 inch monitor hooked to my dock
+2019-08-03 19:30:34 praetor but I'm not always at my desk. like now. I'm at my window smoking
+2019-08-03 19:30:54 developer That is a lot of real estate.
+2019-08-03 19:31:02 praetor it's lovely :3
+2019-08-03 19:31:18 developer I used to always run two monitors, but one died before I moved, so down to one 19 inch now.
+2019-08-03 19:31:38 developer Have to switch desktops a lot
+2019-08-03 19:31:58 praetor I'd run 3 monitors, but my lappy has an intel nic and not enough video ram to drive all 2 21" and the 27
+2019-08-03 19:32:10 praetor s/nic/gpu
+2019-08-03 19:32:11 timemachine I'd run 3 monitors, but my lappy has an intel gpu and not enough video ram to drive all 2 21" and the 27
+2019-08-03 19:32:13 developer There are remote workers who get by with one 13 or 15 inch laptop.
+2019-08-03 19:32:58 praetor that's fine if I'm not doing serious things. like right now I'm just farting around. but if I'm balls deep in some code, I need duals at the very least
+2019-08-03 19:33:33 developer I have an old (2010) tower, with a dual-output video card. Only 64mb though.
+2019-08-03 19:33:41 praetor :c
+2019-08-03 19:34:08 praetor I really thought I'd miss my iMac, but I'm LOVING this setup
+2019-08-03 19:34:21 developer Agree.. When I was building sites, I needed one for coding in vim, one to see how pretty the site looked in a browser.
+2019-08-03 19:34:34 * praetor nods
+2019-08-03 19:34:56 developer Now, I am only going to build gopher holes, so no need for fancy set up.
+2019-08-03 19:35:08 praetor nice :D
+2019-08-03 19:35:54 developer Really...no need for a desktop environment. I should just rm -rf X, and go back to framebuffer console.
+2019-08-03 19:35:54 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-03 19:35:58 developer ,bef
+2019-08-03 19:35:58 BitBot [Ducks] developer befriended a duck in 4.34 seconds! You've befriended 6 ducks in #meta!
+2019-08-03 19:36:03 praetor yay
+2019-08-03 19:36:08 developer Ha
+2019-08-03 19:36:39 praetor I'm surprised nobody has written a ducky stealing weechat script
+2019-08-03 19:36:58 developer I should have hung on to my old 486, and the 50lb 17" VRT monitor. :)
+2019-08-03 19:37:04 praetor then again, maybe that's because we're not all douches
+2019-08-03 19:37:10 developer ^
+2019-08-03 19:37:27 praetor love me a 486 with os2
+2019-08-03 19:37:43 developer or with Slackware 3.0
+2019-08-03 19:37:49 praetor or...minix
+2019-08-03 19:37:56 developer L33t
+2019-08-03 19:38:00 praetor inorite
+2019-08-03 19:38:31 developer Listening to A Challenge of Honour
+2019-08-03 19:38:41 praetor I love ACoH
+2019-08-03 19:38:48 developer Pretty good stuff
+2019-08-03 19:38:54 praetor yus
+2019-08-03 19:39:13 praetor I also really like triore. triarii and ORE's project
+2019-08-03 19:41:27 developer Yes....I will post a link to the contents of my Martial folder
+2019-08-03 19:42:22 developer https://ttm.sh/v9.txt
+2019-08-03 19:42:44 developer Needs to be cleaned up. Need to Detox file names and delete dupes ^
+2019-08-03 19:45:38 praetor yummy
+2019-08-03 19:46:00 developer Have some new stuff in other folder too
+2019-08-03 19:46:10 developer Running out of room on hard drive
+2019-08-03 19:46:51 praetor MOAR SPACE
+2019-08-03 19:47:06 developer Also have a Power Electronics folder
+2019-08-03 19:47:21 praetor lately I've been in a big power electronics binge mood
+2019-08-03 19:47:28 developer And EBM, Dungeon Synth and Retrowave folders. :)
+2019-08-03 19:47:33 praetor :D
+2019-08-03 19:47:47 developer Don't listen to Nicole 12, or you will go insane.
+2019-08-03 19:47:58 praetor never heard
+2019-08-03 19:48:29 developer Sick stuff, but good PE
+2019-08-03 19:49:13 developer I am not that impressed by the new(er) Ordo Rosarius Equilibrio album.
+2019-08-03 19:51:14 praetor have you heard of god body disconnect?
+2019-08-03 19:51:34 praetor he's my most favorite project right now. dark ambient
+2019-08-03 19:54:04 developer Heard of it
+2019-08-03 19:54:13 praetor so good
+2019-08-03 19:54:41 developer I have this: God Body Disconnect(2016) - Dredge Portals
+2019-08-03 19:54:54 praetor he's got 2 discs
+2019-08-03 19:55:19 developer Listening now.
+2019-08-03 19:55:34 developer I have stuff I have barely listened to.
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+2019-08-03 20:35:17 siina ,w
+2019-08-03 20:35:19 BitBot [Weather|siina] (Jyväskylä, Central Finland, Finland) 6C/43F | Clear Sky | Humidity: 86% | Wind: 13.0KMh/8.1MPh
+2019-08-03 20:41:03 truth good morning meta
+2019-08-03 20:41:18 robdrake o/
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+2019-08-04 13:02:41 -- Topic for #meta is "https://tildeverse.org general chat: https://tilde.chat ~ etiquette: https://ttm.sh/etiquette ~ ,ops to ping ops, don't use unnessecarily"
+2019-08-04 13:02:41 -- Topic set by fosslinux (~fosslinux@oper.tilde.chat) on Thu, 11 Jul 2019 18:04:23
+2019-08-04 13:02:41 -- Channel #meta: 152 nicks (14 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 138 normals)
+2019-08-04 13:02:43 -- Channel created on Tue, 19 Jun 2018 00:25:04
+2019-08-04 13:04:46 BitBot (tildeverse/rfcs) [issue] southerntofu commented on #10: A new RFC for making RFCs? - https://tildegit.org/tildeverse/rfcs/issues/10#issuecomment-2082
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+2019-08-04 13:40:35 younix login: there should be negative points for befriending the duck too quickly
+2019-08-04 13:40:57 younix Otherwise I think it would degenerate into instant duck befriending
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+2019-08-05 10:33:49 -- Topic for #meta is "https://tildeverse.org general chat: https://tilde.chat ~ etiquette: https://ttm.sh/etiquette ~ ,ops to ping ops, don't use unnessecarily"
+2019-08-05 10:33:49 -- Topic set by fosslinux (~fosslinux@oper.tilde.chat) on Thu, 11 Jul 2019 18:04:23
+2019-08-05 10:33:49 -- Channel #meta: 151 nicks (14 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 137 normals)
+2019-08-05 10:33:51 -- Channel created on Tue, 19 Jun 2018 00:25:04
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+2019-08-05 11:04:31 krowbar mhj: yeah. but i was rather salty that Twitch tagged all the SSBU clips on the evo1 channel as "Party Game". >:(
+2019-08-05 11:04:44 mhj :X
+2019-08-05 11:05:01 krowbar this ain't your gram-mam's Jack Box!
+2019-08-05 11:05:03 threv aw
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+2019-08-05 11:07:45 -- uberd is now known as den1
+2019-08-05 11:08:13 login thSSBU stands for
+2019-08-05 11:08:17 login evo1 stands for?
+2019-08-05 11:09:03 --> Fessus (realname) (~Fessus@107.191.108.221) has joined #meta
+2019-08-05 11:09:07 krowbar Super Smash Bros Ultimate. Evo[lution] fighting game tournament secondary stream
+2019-08-05 11:09:24 krowbar !acronym SSBU
+2019-08-05 11:09:25 banterbot SSBU: "Super Smash Bros Ultimate", "Suffocating Sophist Beyer Unpacks"
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+2019-08-05 11:12:43 -- den1 is now known as den
+2019-08-05 11:13:40 login thank you :)
+2019-08-05 11:13:50 login what's evolution fighting game tournament secondary stream?
+2019-08-05 11:15:27 krowbar https://lmgtfy.com/?q=evolution+fighting+game+tournament+secondary+stream
+2019-08-05 11:15:28 BitBot [Title] LMGTFY - https://ttm.sh/WJ
+2019-08-05 11:17:26 threv krowbar: yeah that sucks
+2019-08-05 11:17:34 threv altho ssb _is_ a party game
+2019-08-05 11:17:41 threv just happens to also be a competitive fighter
+2019-08-05 11:18:12 krowbar we'll just call it more "accessible" than, say, Tekken or Guilty Gear
+2019-08-05 11:18:29 threv sure
+2019-08-05 11:19:23 krowbar but i find it more silly than anything how some people get their panties tied in a knot over how "hard core" their game of choice is
+2019-08-05 11:29:34 krowbar but what are some of your favorite games?
+2019-08-05 11:38:48 login burnout was a favourite series of games for me
+2019-08-05 11:39:02 login burnout 3 takedown, burnout: revenge, burnout: dominator, burnout: paradise
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+2019-08-05 11:39:33 login i found burnout: dominator difficult, burnout: paradise fun, burnout: revenge was easier, and i haven't played burnout 3: takedown in a long long time
+2019-08-05 11:39:55 login Why is it "accessible"? evolution fighting game tournament secondary stream
+2019-08-05 11:40:07 login is that the name of the game? (including 'secondary stream'?)
+2019-08-05 11:40:09 login hey zeth
+2019-08-05 11:40:13 zeth soup
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+2019-08-05 12:48:40 * krowbar fist pumps. Yeah! won a game of dominion at lunch!
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+2019-08-05 13:00:13 threv sweet
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+2019-08-05 13:19:53 ~deepend ahriman: rdnet is back online.
+2019-08-05 13:24:14 --> adium [adium] (adium) (~adium@187.181.130.100) has joined #meta
+2019-08-05 13:25:25 ~ubergeek :woot:
+2019-08-05 13:25:31 ~ben :3
+2019-08-05 13:25:38 ~deepend hello ubergeek ben
+2019-08-05 13:25:42 ~ben hey deepend
+2019-08-05 13:25:44 ~ben how goes t
+2019-08-05 13:25:46 ~ben it
+2019-08-05 13:25:47 ~ubergeek heyo deepend
+2019-08-05 13:25:56 ~deepend it goes alright.. just got back from camping lastnight
+2019-08-05 13:26:08 ~ben nice
+2019-08-05 13:26:30 ~deepend yep.. now gotta get my trailer unpacked. lol didn't feel like doing it lastnight
+2019-08-05 13:26:35 ~ben oof
+2019-08-05 13:30:36 ~ubergeek camper trailer, or hauling trailer?
+2019-08-05 13:35:55 threv (his butt)
+2019-08-05 13:37:24 ~ubergeek lel
+2019-08-05 13:38:17 jesopo b3n
+2019-08-05 13:38:23 ~ben j3s0p0
+2019-08-05 13:38:27 ~ben heh
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+2019-08-05 13:42:45 jesopo :33
+2019-08-05 13:42:47 jesopo hows u
+2019-08-05 13:57:34 ~ben gud!
+2019-08-05 14:01:09 clarjon1 jes!!
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+2019-08-05 14:04:10 clarjon1 wb!!
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+2019-08-05 14:29:15 krowbar programming is a lot less fun when you have to worrry about breaking ABI contracts across like 300 application dlls
+2019-08-05 14:30:58 demure yay, new version of my favorite font came out~
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+2019-08-05 14:32:43 echelon ben
+2019-08-05 14:32:47 echelon clustering is getting to be a pain
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+2019-08-05 14:32:52 echelon BUT
+2019-08-05 14:33:12 echelon i did set up successfully a vSwitch through Hetzner so 192.168.100.1 is in Germany and 192.168.100.2 is in Finland ;)
+2019-08-05 14:33:18 echelon and now rsync will be quicker
+2019-08-05 14:33:24 threv sweet!
+2019-08-05 14:33:43 echelon it's crazy how much faster it is
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+2019-08-05 14:35:47 krowbar demure: what font is that?
+2019-08-05 14:35:58 demure PragmataPro
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+2019-08-05 14:37:15 krowbar demure: what makes it better for you than like Monokai or Inconsolata?
+2019-08-05 14:39:02 demure *looks at monokai* well, that didn't exist when I started using pragmata. It also looks like monokai has a BS "buy us for one program" model?
+2019-08-05 14:39:35 krowbar (that's just the one that defaults with SublimeText)
+2019-08-05 14:39:39 demure that, or their site sucks and just makes you think you can only get their font for one of two editors
+2019-08-05 14:40:16 ~ben ooo nice
+2019-08-05 14:40:20 ~ben i use input mono
+2019-08-05 14:40:25 demure inconsolata looks ok but doesn't really speak to me.
+2019-08-05 14:40:30 ~ubergeek I use comic sans
+2019-08-05 14:40:43 demure one of the things I like about pragmata is how many unicode chars it supports
+2019-08-05 14:41:09 krowbar dang! PragmataPro is 200+ euros
+2019-08-05 14:41:12 ~ben i haven't run into any missing chars in input mono
+2019-08-05 14:41:30 krowbar but it does look nice https://www.fsd.it/shop/fonts/pragmatapro/
+2019-08-05 14:41:33 BitBot [Title] PragmataPro coding font designed by Fabrizio Schiavi - https://ttm.sh/WH
+2019-08-05 14:41:54 ~ben oh ligatures too
+2019-08-05 14:41:55 demure krowbar: the minimal pack is what I have. much cheaper
+2019-08-05 14:41:56 ~ben fance
+2019-08-05 14:42:29 demure so I have four files: reg, reg lig, reg mono, reg mono lig.
+2019-08-05 14:43:04 demure one of these days I'll blow some cash on the full pack XD
+2019-08-05 14:43:16 krowbar i am a fan of ligatures
+2019-08-05 14:43:26 ~ben they tend to confuse me
+2019-08-05 14:43:31 demure it has been amusing testing ligatures in my terminal
+2019-08-05 14:43:41 demure I see how they make sense in an IDE
+2019-08-05 14:43:51 demure in a term them might be a bit over kill though
+2019-08-05 14:44:02 krowbar ben: i've heard that opinion from other devs but i can read them just fine...
+2019-08-05 14:44:07 demure but I do like the log file ligs this font has
+2019-08-05 14:44:10 ~ben fair enough
+2019-08-05 14:45:11 krowbar i do a decent amount of typescript programming so turning the fat arrows => into a single fat arrow is kinda nice
+2019-08-05 14:45:18 threv nice
+2019-08-05 14:47:13 ~ben i've tried switching from input mono and i can't do it
+2019-08-05 14:47:21 threv i use Hack lately
+2019-08-05 14:47:28 ~ben it's so pretty
+2019-08-05 14:47:30 ~ben https://input.fontbureau.com/
+2019-08-05 14:47:35 BitBot [Title] Input: Fonts for Code - https://ttm.sh/uQ
+2019-08-05 14:47:45 threv that's nice
+2019-08-05 14:48:21 ~ben this is the configuration i use: https://input.fontbureau.com/preview/?size=14&language=python&theme=solarized-dark&family=InputMono&width=300&weight=300&line-height=1.2&a=0&g=0&i=serif&l=serif&zero=slash&asterisk=0&braces=straight&preset=consolas&customize=please
+2019-08-05 14:48:24 BitBot [Title] Input: Fonts for Code — Preview - https://ttm.sh/Wg
+2019-08-05 14:49:18 demure I do keep hack around as a backup font
+2019-08-05 14:49:57 demure I wish more fonts had good unicode support >_>
+2019-08-05 14:50:38 demure there seems to be a scale with "good unicode support" on one axis, and "looks good" on the other
+2019-08-05 14:50:51 demure very few fonts have both
+2019-08-05 14:50:54 ~ben is there a way to test unicode support
+2019-08-05 14:51:18 demure you can view the font with `xfd` and see what it has in it
+2019-08-05 14:51:33 demure you could probably script something to check rangers too
+2019-08-05 14:51:41 ~ben oo
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+2019-08-05 14:53:45 rdh Hey d00ds
+2019-08-05 14:54:11 ~ben hey rdh how goes it
+2019-08-05 14:54:13 demure ooo, I has fancy powerline log file ligatures with this update
+2019-08-05 14:54:29 ~ben log file?
+2019-08-05 14:55:11 demure http://demure.sdf.org/junk/font_lig_example2.png
+2019-08-05 14:55:17 demure "error"
+2019-08-05 14:55:24 ~ben o cool
+2019-08-05 14:56:55 demure the new 'powerline' ones have the / and < slants
+2019-08-05 14:59:49 ~ben very fance
+2019-08-05 15:06:38 robdrake Hello again #meta
+2019-08-05 15:10:59 robdrake krowbar, why typescript?
+2019-08-05 15:11:07 robdrake and not true javascript?
+2019-08-05 15:11:13 krowbar because it's better
+2019-08-05 15:11:31 robdrake "religious" issue
+2019-08-05 15:11:42 robdrake like emacs vs vim
+2019-08-05 15:11:53 threv eh
+2019-08-05 15:11:53 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-05 15:11:55 threv ,bef
+2019-08-05 15:11:56 BitBot [Ducks] threv befriended a duck in 2.01 seconds! You've befriended 24 ducks in #meta!
+2019-08-05 15:11:57 robdrake ,bef
+2019-08-05 15:11:57 BitBot [Ducks] robdrake: There was no duck!
+2019-08-05 15:12:10 ~tomasino typescript is pretty nice
+2019-08-05 15:12:22 krowbar robdrake: i mean, i could give you the actual reason but it doesn't sound like you'd be willing to hear them
+2019-08-05 15:14:31 krowbar and at a certain point it becomes "because that is the decision we made and now we are living with it"
+2019-08-05 15:15:05 robdrake I should at least try out typescript I guess, but enough to learn now with Phaser 3
+2019-08-05 15:16:06 krowbar what kind of language patterns, etc does Phaser use?
+2019-08-05 15:17:34 threv it's a game engine, basically
+2019-08-05 15:17:46 threv https://phaser.io/
+2019-08-05 15:17:48 BitBot [Title] Phaser - A fast, fun and free open source HTML5 game framework - https://ttm.sh/Wf
+2019-08-05 15:19:07 robdrake game engine w/ physics engine
+2019-08-05 15:19:18 krowbar sure, but even many engines are opinionated about how you write and organize your code and the algorithms you write
+2019-08-05 15:19:33 robdrake uses webgl if available, else canvas, if configured that way
+2019-08-05 15:25:58 robdrake "opinions are like assholes, everybody has one and they all stink"
+2019-08-05 15:27:47 krowbar i have a witty response, but i think i'll keep it to myself
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+2019-08-05 15:49:43 robdrake heel wound is looking good, nearly healed
+2019-08-05 15:57:45 ~deepend ubergeek: camping trailer
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+2019-08-05 16:08:10 echelon ben
+2019-08-05 16:08:13 echelon if you're around lol
+2019-08-05 16:08:21 ~ben echelon:
+2019-08-05 16:08:23 ~ben hi
+2019-08-05 16:08:36 echelon let's see if it hangs on waiting for quorum
+2019-08-05 16:08:40 ~ben helo
+2019-08-05 16:08:51 echelon so far so good, ben
+2019-08-05 16:08:51 ~ben proxmox clustering?
+2019-08-05 16:08:54 echelon yes
+2019-08-05 16:09:02 ~ben how does it handle networking
+2019-08-05 16:09:06 echelon locally
+2019-08-05 16:09:09 ~ben when it's clustered
+2019-08-05 16:09:10 echelon i set up a vSwitch
+2019-08-05 16:09:15 ~ben o
+2019-08-05 16:09:40 ~ben so if i have the 16 IPs on the ovh/soyoustart box and i migrate a vm that's using one of those ips to a different proxmox host
+2019-08-05 16:09:43 ~ben what happens
+2019-08-05 16:09:53 echelon good question
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+2019-08-05 16:10:57 ~ben i've been wondering that for a while
+2019-08-05 16:11:02 ~ben i guess there's one way to find out
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+2019-08-05 18:16:19 demure hmm, I'm interested in people's opinions on code efficiency.
+2019-08-05 18:16:57 slipxy wazat
+2019-08-05 18:17:41 demure I'm dealing with a scale of 0-100%, and will now have 10 if test if I scale my current code (bash)
+2019-08-05 18:18:02 demure I'm considering if it would be cleaner to have a case test at this point instead of nested ifs
+2019-08-05 18:20:29 demure I'm thinking a case block will probably be easier to read, and a tad faster
+2019-08-05 18:34:22 ~ubergeek cases are almost always cleaner than nested ifs
+2019-08-05 18:34:56 ~ubergeek Depending on how its written, either could be faster (ie, most common case if is the first one)
+2019-08-05 18:37:06 demure *nod*
+2019-08-05 18:37:30 demure all of the IFs are mostly equally likely.
+2019-08-05 18:37:45 demure welp, time to scale this up with a case :)
+2019-08-05 18:39:32 ~ubergeek yeah, I'd refactor, just for cleanliness sake imo
+2019-08-05 19:25:25 echelon unicast/multicast aren't workking for some odd reason
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+2019-08-05 19:37:24 demure something something firewall?
+2019-08-05 19:37:37 echelon even with both disabled still blocked
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+2019-08-05 19:39:04 demure something something external firewall?
+2019-08-05 19:39:18 demure :p
+2019-08-05 19:39:23 echelon also disabled
+2019-08-05 19:39:29 echelon through isp panel
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+2019-08-05 20:53:27 ~ben henlo frnlos
+2019-08-05 21:02:06 npa hey ben
+2019-08-05 21:02:13 ~ben how goes it npuh
+2019-08-05 21:03:57 npa it goes alright, just gonna do some worky work today
+2019-08-05 21:04:00 npa ,time ben
+2019-08-05 21:04:00 BitBot [Time] Time for ben: 2019/08/05 21:04:00
+2019-08-05 21:04:03 npa nice
+2019-08-05 21:04:05 ~ben yuck
+2019-08-05 21:04:12 ~ben work bac
+2019-08-05 21:04:14 ~ben bad
+2019-08-05 21:04:50 ~ben delet($work);
+2019-08-05 21:20:37 praetor hai
+2019-08-05 21:21:21 ~ben wo‽
+2019-08-05 21:24:44 praetor nada. listening to test department
+2019-08-05 21:25:13 ~ben what about production
+2019-08-05 21:25:18 ~ben instead of test
+2019-08-05 21:25:23 praetor hahaha
+2019-08-05 21:25:41 ~ben run all tests
+2019-08-05 21:25:50 praetor RUN ALL THE TESTS!
+2019-08-05 21:25:56 npa wokr
+2019-08-05 21:26:02 npa my new thai startup
+2019-08-05 21:26:15 ~ben wokr
+2019-08-05 21:26:21 ~ben yes
+2019-08-05 21:26:30 * ben order thai
+2019-08-05 21:26:55 praetor yummy :D
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+2019-08-05 21:27:38 ~ben succes
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+2019-08-05 21:52:22 npa radiobot: paymybills
+2019-08-05 21:52:22 radiobot whaddya mean?! i'm broker than you!
+2019-08-05 21:52:36 ~ben radiobot: slogan
+2019-08-05 21:52:36 radiobot 003 Days Since Last Workplace Accident
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+2019-08-05 22:05:06 ~fosslinux ,time ahriman
+2019-08-05 22:05:06 BitBot [Time] Time for ahriman: 2019/08/05 19:05:06
+2019-08-05 22:05:16 ~ben so earlie
+2019-08-05 22:05:20 ~ben henlo fossy
+2019-08-05 22:05:26 ~fosslinux ahriman: have u done ur inverview yet?
+2019-08-05 22:05:28 ~fosslinux henlo ben
+2019-08-05 22:05:41 ~ben henlo fosslo
+2019-08-05 22:05:43 ~ben how u
+2019-08-05 22:05:46 ~ben ,time fosslinux
+2019-08-05 22:05:47 BitBot [Time] Time for fosslinux: 2019/08/06 12:05:47
+2019-08-05 22:05:49 ~fosslinux a bit sick actly
+2019-08-05 22:05:53 ~fosslinux so im @ home
+2019-08-05 22:05:54 ~ben o no
+2019-08-05 22:06:05 ~ben lol ok that's not bad
+2019-08-05 22:06:16 ~ben home is good
+2019-08-05 22:06:24 ~fosslinux i woke up with a headache and a super sore throat
+2019-08-05 22:06:32 ~fosslinux now i just have a sore throat
+2019-08-05 22:06:40 ~fosslinux but i missed my science prac exam :s
+2019-08-05 22:06:53 ~fosslinux ,w ahriman
+2019-08-05 22:06:54 BitBot [Weather|ahriman] (San Francisco, California, USA) 16C/61F | Mist | Humidity: 93% | Wind: 7.6KMh/4.7MPh
+2019-08-05 22:07:00 ~fosslinux ah he updated it
+2019-08-05 22:07:32 ~ben ya normally he's same tz as me
+2019-08-05 22:10:09 ~fosslinux got any cool next big things for ~team
+2019-08-05 22:10:11 ~fosslinux ?
+2019-08-05 22:10:38 ~ben i've been thinking about running my own authoritative nameservers
+2019-08-05 22:10:41 ~ben instead of cloudflare
+2019-08-05 22:10:57 ~ben not sure if it's worth the time/maintenance effort
+2019-08-05 22:15:14 npa lotta effort
+2019-08-05 22:19:01 ~ben ya
+2019-08-05 22:19:18 ~ben i think i could probably configure ovh to be a secondary nameserver
+2019-08-05 22:19:36 ~ben currently using cf but it's only for dns and certbot integration
+2019-08-05 22:42:57 ~ahriman fosslinux: ya, at the Oakland airport waiting to fly home
+2019-08-05 22:43:03 ~fosslinux how'd it go!
+2019-08-05 22:44:18 ~ben TIL oakland has an airport
+2019-08-05 22:44:28 ~ben hope it went well ahriman !!1
+2019-08-05 22:45:20 ~ahriman Thanks dude. I think it went ok. I stumbled a few times but eh. They told me I'm the first person to make it to the final interview
+2019-08-05 22:45:46 hijackeel I've never flown out of Oakland. I used to fly out of SFO until I discovered that you can fly out of SJC (San Jose) cheaper via Southwest... you just have to search on the Southwest site directly, 'cause Google Flights doesn't list Southwest's prices for some reason.
+2019-08-05 22:46:25 ~fosslinux that's good!
+2019-08-05 22:50:42 npa nicely done ahrimang
+2019-08-05 22:50:59 npa so, is there another interview, or was that the final one?
+2019-08-05 22:53:40 npa also, i did my online interview
+2019-08-05 22:53:52 npa not too bad, i even saved some of my solutions
+2019-08-05 22:55:25 npa the first was some sliding window fn: https://pastebin.com/cAk61Qrr
+2019-08-05 22:55:27 BitBot [Title] [C++] class IntervalLimiter { public: private: // how much delta we permit p - Pastebin.com - https://ttm.sh/WX
+2019-08-05 22:55:37 npa the second was writing an orderbook, so fulfilling buy and sell orders
+2019-08-05 22:55:55 npa i wrote two versions, one using a list, the other one using a balanced binary tree
+2019-08-05 22:55:59 npa overkill, perhaps
+2019-08-05 22:57:22 ~ahriman Nice npa! Yeah this is the final one
+2019-08-05 22:59:26 npa ty ty
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+2019-08-06 00:08:03 hijackeel can anyone here recommend me a multimeter?
+2019-08-06 00:09:07 hijackeel hard requirements: more than $30, less than $200, can measure mains voltage without killing me.
+2019-08-06 00:10:27 hijackeel At least Cat III.
+2019-08-06 00:19:07 ~ahriman This flight is about to murder my sleep schedule. Leave at 1030 PM, four hours later land at 6AM
+2019-08-06 00:19:27 ~deepend hijackeel: https://www.amazon.com/Fluke-115-Compact-True-RMS-Multimeter/dp/B000OCFFMW/ref=sr_1_33?keywords=multimeter+cat+iii&qid=1565064954&s=gateway&sr=8-33 ?maybe?
+2019-08-06 00:19:30 BitBot [Title] Fluke 115 Compact True-RMS Digital Multimeter - - Amazon.com - https://ttm.sh/Wy
+2019-08-06 00:20:14 ~fosslinux ahriman: how is 1030 pm 4 hrs later 6am? Lmai
+2019-08-06 00:20:44 ~ahriman Time zones fren
+2019-08-06 00:21:19 ~ahriman 4 1/2 hour flight +3hrs for time zone jumps
+2019-08-06 00:21:19 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-06 00:21:23 ~ahriman ,bef
+2019-08-06 00:21:23 BitBot [Ducks] ahriman befriended a duck in 3.4 seconds! You've befriended 52 ducks in #meta!
+2019-08-06 00:23:29 ~deepend ben: I run my own nameservers.. not really that hard.. outside of needing some redundancy.. which I am currently lacking due to lazyness.
+2019-08-06 00:27:25 hijackeel deepend: I'm considering this one https://www.eevblog.com/product/121gw/
+2019-08-06 00:27:30 BitBot [Title] 121GW Multimeter – EEVblog - https://ttm.sh/W6
+2019-08-06 00:27:37 hijackeel bluetooth/SD logging seems like a nifty feature.
+2019-08-06 00:33:29 ~deepend yeah sounds like a decent multimeter
+2019-08-06 00:39:02 ~fosslinux oooo i see
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+2019-08-06 01:16:26 npa hey kirk781
+2019-08-06 01:17:03 kirk781 npa, hello
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+2019-08-06 04:13:09 zeth Yay...I filled my flat with smoke of burnt potatoes and carbonized chicken...
+2019-08-06 04:13:50 zeth I shouldn't cook without freaking alarm clock when I'm this god damn tired >.<
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+2019-08-06 04:42:17 quantumm are there any cheaper cyberbunker alternative?
+2019-08-06 04:42:28 quantumm planning to start my own tilde
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+2019-08-06 05:00:11 npa i'm sorry quantumm
+2019-08-06 05:00:45 npa there is nothing more true to the cyberbunk experience than silence
+2019-08-06 06:41:31 login tilde as a service
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+2019-08-06 08:00:20 kirk781 ,np
+2019-08-06 08:00:22 BitBot [last.fm] kirk781 is listening to: Yes - Roundabout (13 plays) (Progressive rock, classic rock, 70s, yes, rock) - https://youtu.be/cPCLFtxpadE
+2019-08-06 08:15:32 ~ben goob mornign
+2019-08-06 08:29:32 * creme waves ben - good morning
+2019-08-06 08:31:18 ~ben gütä morgä
+2019-08-06 08:31:23 ~ben (´・ω・`)
+2019-08-06 08:31:26 ~ben ,time creme
+2019-08-06 08:31:26 BitBot [Time] Time for creme: 2019/08/06 14:31:26
+2019-08-06 08:31:37 ~ben schon nachmittags bei dir
+2019-08-06 08:31:59 creme jaa der halbe tag ist schon vorbei ;)
+2019-08-06 08:32:35 kirk781 ben, hello
+2019-08-06 08:33:20 ~ben helo kirk781
+2019-08-06 08:33:26 ~ben ,time
+2019-08-06 08:33:26 BitBot [Time] Time for ben: 2019/08/06 08:33:26
+2019-08-06 08:33:35 creme ,time ben
+2019-08-06 08:33:35 BitBot [Time] Time for ben: 2019/08/06 08:33:35
+2019-08-06 08:33:36 ~ben just getting to work now
+2019-08-06 08:34:10 creme have a good day ben!
+2019-08-06 08:34:30 echelon heh
+2019-08-06 08:34:38 echelon i'm off tuesdays wednesdays thursdays now
+2019-08-06 08:36:14 ~ben oo nice
+2019-08-06 08:36:20 ~ben i'm off saturdays and sundays
+2019-08-06 08:36:37 kirk781 ,np
+2019-08-06 08:36:39 BitBot [last.fm] kirk781 is listening to: Yes - Heart of the Sunrise (4 plays) (Progressive rock, classic rock, rock, 70s, yes) - https://youtu.be/0vNcgL9Fi4w
+2019-08-06 08:41:58 BitBot (tildeverse/pleroma) b‌en pushed 5 commits to develop - https://tildegit.org/tildeverse/pleroma/compare/27d20fa62ebb6154a8b76cf4687a580b0db1e89d...157d55874ba6a3b12936cdca4716987b3840720b
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+2019-08-06 08:43:31 login has anyone here come across publixsuffix.org before?
+2019-08-06 08:43:39 login *publicsuffix.org
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+2019-08-06 08:54:04 ~ben ya
+2019-08-06 08:54:35 ~ben hashbang.sh is on there
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+2019-08-06 09:26:46 login welcome back kirk781, Wallet
+2019-08-06 09:27:00 Wallet hello login
+2019-08-06 09:27:03 login is tilde.team or tilde.town on publicsuffix.org? (I sure hope blogspot.com is)
+2019-08-06 09:27:05 login hello
+2019-08-06 09:29:44 ~ben tilde.team is not
+2019-08-06 09:29:54 ~ben login: you can grep the list yourself :)
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+2019-08-06 10:08:11 login alright
+2019-08-06 10:36:01 amcclure would anyone advise against upgrading my server to ubuntu non-lts
+2019-08-06 10:38:23 ~ben depends on your use case
+2019-08-06 10:38:46 ~ben if you want newer packages and don't mind a possibly messy upgrade then go for it
+2019-08-06 10:39:11 amcclure I don't think there's anything that would make the upgrade messy
+2019-08-06 10:39:34 ~ben ya if you have a relatively standard setup then it will be fine
+2019-08-06 10:40:16 amcclure ok
+2019-08-06 10:41:10 Wallet ubuntu hardly mess with something
+2019-08-06 10:41:24 Wallet they are not bleeding edge with updates
+2019-08-06 10:42:54 ~ben kernel 5 in 19.04!
+2019-08-06 10:43:00 ~ben ya it'll be fine
+2019-08-06 10:58:56 sarmonsiill Anyone else find themselves always thinking utterly useless projects are the most fun to code? :-P
+2019-08-06 11:01:58 sarmonsiill the projects i actually get stuck for hours with are stuff like static site generator written in bash, a bot to automatically hunt on a MUD, a golang-based file-indexer with a server and a client, etc. never anything useful :-/
+2019-08-06 11:02:43 login a bot to automatically collect hunt and collect stones+pebbles in asciifarm would be great
+2019-08-06 11:02:55 login why would a file-indexer need a server and a client?
+2019-08-06 11:03:05 login what about games that use local server currency?
+2019-08-06 11:04:29 ~ben useless projects are fun
+2019-08-06 11:04:34 amcclure upgrade is done
+2019-08-06 11:04:36 ~ben usually learn a lot while doing them
+2019-08-06 11:04:41 amcclure see all y'all on the other side :)
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+2019-08-06 11:05:11 sarmonsiill the file indexer started since i have a lot of machines running at home with a lot of disks on each and a LOT of old files. nothing is organised. wanted to know what i had and where. so i wrote one server that runs on one machine and then i just run the client on each machine and it indexes all the files and structures the information and sends it to the server. the server then has a built in
+2019-08-06 11:05:13 sarmonsiill web-ui so you can list, sort and filter the files and see what type, size, which machine, ip, etc etc
+2019-08-06 11:07:05 ~tomasino sarmonsiill: absolutely
+2019-08-06 11:07:12 ~tomasino that's why we make tildes
+2019-08-06 11:07:19 sarmonsiill :D
+2019-08-06 11:07:27 ~tomasino telnet cosmic.voyage 1822
+2019-08-06 11:07:32 praetor 'morning frends
+2019-08-06 11:07:44 ~tomasino morning praetor
+2019-08-06 11:07:50 praetor :>
+2019-08-06 11:07:54 praetor what's goin' on?
+2019-08-06 11:07:56 sarmonsiill hi praetor
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+2019-08-06 11:08:47 praetor a wiley amcclure enters
+2019-08-06 11:08:59 amcclure it worked
+2019-08-06 11:10:01 praetor yay
+2019-08-06 11:10:15 ~ben tomasino: s/wierd/weird/
+2019-08-06 11:10:42 ~tomasino weird?
+2019-08-06 11:11:01 ~tomasino oh, haha
+2019-08-06 11:11:03 ~tomasino yep
+2019-08-06 11:11:03 ~ben ya
+2019-08-06 11:11:06 ~tomasino i see it
+2019-08-06 11:11:13 ~tomasino i'll have to dig in the db and fix it later
+2019-08-06 11:11:31 ~ben is this like M-x doctor?
+2019-08-06 11:11:32 ~tomasino teach me to type directly into a db instead of writing it out first in a proper editor
+2019-08-06 11:11:44 ~tomasino i don't know what M-x doctor is
+2019-08-06 11:11:52 ~ben it's the only thing i've ever used emacs for
+2019-08-06 11:12:17 ~tomasino emacs? did i miss something?
+2019-08-06 11:12:27 amcclure did I miss something?
+2019-08-06 11:15:03 ~ben https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/EmacsDoctor
+2019-08-06 11:15:05 BitBot [Title] EmacsWiki: Emacs Doctor - https://ttm.sh/BD
+2019-08-06 11:18:37 ~tomasino oh weird
+2019-08-06 11:18:39 ~tomasino hah
+2019-08-06 11:18:49 ~tomasino allegra is my ghost in the machine living inside the QEC
+2019-08-06 11:18:58 ~tomasino i need to spend a LOT more time writing her interactions to make it more fun
+2019-08-06 11:20:48 ~ben hah awesome
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+2019-08-06 11:37:43 ~ubergeek I'd probably write her a lot like they did Zora in ST:Disc
+2019-08-06 11:40:31 login who's allegra?
+2019-08-06 11:40:50 login and what's QEC?
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+2019-08-06 11:50:59 ~tomasino QEC is the quantem entanglement communicator, and part of the story over on https://cosmic.voyage
+2019-08-06 11:51:00 BitBot [Title] Cosmic Voyage - Messages from Humanity's Stellar Diaspora - https://ttm.sh/tx
+2019-08-06 11:51:39 ~tomasino Who is Allegra is a bit of the point of her story, once i finish writing it
+2019-08-06 11:52:00 ~tomasino her name comes from the illigitimate daughter of Lord Byron
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+2019-08-06 12:02:17 ~ubergeek I thought it was a play on the allergy med lol
+2019-08-06 12:05:22 younix allegro means quick!
+2019-08-06 12:05:32 younix maybe that's the feminine version
+2019-08-06 12:09:01 login i dont know who Lorn Byron is
+2019-08-06 12:09:26 login the allergy med allegra i heard about first on the movie 'murder mystery' (adam sandler film)
+2019-08-06 12:09:58 younix the Dark Lord BY-RON
+2019-08-06 12:10:36 younix the thin red line (1998) is a great movie
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+2019-08-06 12:14:16 ~tomasino lord byron was a poet. his other daughter was Ada Lovelace, who was a friend and colleague with Charles Babbage and worked with him on the analytical engine
+2019-08-06 12:14:53 younix and both byron and ada get way more attention than they deserve, i reckon
+2019-08-06 12:15:15 ~tomasino she gets the title "The first programmer" because in her notes on the analytical engine she wrote the first documented and published algorithm
+2019-08-06 12:15:40 ~tomasino whether deserved or not, she's immortalized as part of programming history now
+2019-08-06 12:16:10 ~tomasino but our little Allegra was treated very poorly and died as a child
+2019-08-06 12:16:10 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-06 12:16:13 ~tomasino ,hug
+2019-08-06 12:16:14 BitBot [Ducks] tomasino befriended a duck in 3.23 seconds! You've befriended 13 ducks in #meta!
+2019-08-06 12:16:16 younix awww
+2019-08-06 12:16:18 younix :(
+2019-08-06 12:16:26 * tomasino shares the duck with younix
+2019-08-06 12:16:36 younix lol, no that was for poor little allegra
+2019-08-06 12:16:41 younix i'm full
+2019-08-06 12:16:53 ~tomasino hah
+2019-08-06 12:17:23 younix also why does that duck have no legs or tail or rest of a wing?
+2019-08-06 12:17:42 younix should put it out of its misery
+2019-08-06 12:17:51 younix poor little guy :(
+2019-08-06 12:18:17 ~tomasino lord byron, mary shelley, and her sister, Claire Clairmont, had a wonderfully bohemian relationship
+2019-08-06 12:18:40 ~tomasino it overlaps the time when they were at that party with Bram Stoker and basically got drunk and invented genres
+2019-08-06 12:18:54 younix is that why byron has so many undergrad literature studies fans?
+2019-08-06 12:19:11 younix lol
+2019-08-06 12:19:18 ~tomasino byron & shelley both, yeah
+2019-08-06 12:20:06 younix students love bohemians
+2019-08-06 12:20:14 ~tomasino percy shelley wrote a poem about his wife's step sister that got pretty hot, meanwhile she's having babies with lord byron and chasing him around europe and "seducing" him into group stuff with Mary
+2019-08-06 12:20:48 younix fascinating
+2019-08-06 12:21:04 younix the incarnation of YOLO
+2019-08-06 12:21:10 ~tomasino yeah
+2019-08-06 12:21:56 ~tomasino https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-summer-storm-that-inspired-frankenstein-and-dracula
+2019-08-06 12:21:57 BitBot [Title] The Summer Storm That Inspired Frankenstein and Dracula - https://ttm.sh/Bh
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+2019-08-06 13:31:23 biglysmalls aw, allegra doesn't know the game global thermonuclear war
+2019-08-06 14:35:11 level3 missing driver for postgresql :(
+2019-08-06 14:40:50 level3 wrong channel sorry
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+2019-08-06 16:03:32 theone uuuh
+2019-08-06 16:03:43 theone good afternoon everyone
+2019-08-06 16:03:50 younix hey theo
+2019-08-06 16:03:54 younix how goes it
+2019-08-06 16:05:24 theone I'm fine, i'm trying to enjoy my summer holydays
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+2019-08-06 16:05:43 younix nice. how long you off for?
+2019-08-06 16:06:31 theone I'm still a student, so i will start school again around 11th of september
+2019-08-06 16:07:00 theone How about you?
+2019-08-06 16:07:53 ~tomasino i'm kicking my kid back to school on monday
+2019-08-06 16:08:32 theone What? I thought schools were closed during summer time
+2019-08-06 16:15:45 younix ah yes, i remember starting school again around the 11th of september
+2019-08-06 16:16:12 younix the crisp air
+2019-08-06 16:16:19 younix the days shortening
+2019-08-06 16:16:29 younix :~)
+2019-08-06 16:17:21 ~tomasino i guess they start a bit sooner in iceland
+2019-08-06 16:19:13 younix i'm unemployed, so i'm kinda on vacation
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+2019-08-06 16:19:20 younix i'll have to get some money soon though
+2019-08-06 16:19:26 younix might start around the same time as you
+2019-08-06 16:19:46 younix what're you taking, theo?
+2019-08-06 16:20:30 theone ~tomasino: i guess that's because in iceland it's colder than here in italy, so you can go to school without sweating too much in august.
+2019-08-06 16:20:46 ~tomasino ahh, yes. It's quite comfortable
+2019-08-06 16:20:48 ~tomasino ,w
+2019-08-06 16:20:48 BitBot [Weather|tomasino] (Iceland) 11C/52F | Broken Clouds | Humidity: 76% | Wind: 18.4KMh/11.4MPh
+2019-08-06 16:21:01 ~tomasino i assume winter break will be longer. not sure yet!
+2019-08-06 16:23:32 theone younix: i'm studying to be an IT specialist
+2019-08-06 16:23:47 theone i like computers, programming... that kind of stuff
+2019-08-06 16:24:50 younix makes sense!
+2019-08-06 16:24:58 younix so you're from italy?
+2019-08-06 16:26:28 theone yes, i am
+2019-08-06 16:26:35 theone you?
+2019-08-06 16:26:56 theone ,w turin
+2019-08-06 16:26:57 BitBot [Weather] (Turin, Piemont, Italy) 24C/76F | Thunderstorm | Humidity: 74% | Wind: 7.6KMh/4.7MPh
+2019-08-06 16:34:14 younix ,w
+2019-08-06 16:34:15 BitBot [Weather|younix] (Toronto, Ontario, Canada) 25C/78F | Thunderstorm With Light Rain | Humidity: 83% | Wind: 11.2KMh/6.9MPh
+2019-08-06 16:34:26 cdmnky it's raining oof
+2019-08-06 16:34:28 cdmnky ,w
+2019-08-06 16:34:32 BitBot [Weather|cdmnky] (Potsdam, New York, USA) 24C/75F | Moderate Rain | Humidity: 64% | Wind: 20.5KMh/12.8MPh
+2019-08-06 16:34:34 younix thunderstorms for all!
+2019-08-06 16:34:48 cdmnky no thunderstorms weirdly enough
+2019-08-06 16:34:58 younix moderate rain and/or thunderstorms for all!
+2019-08-06 16:36:18 robdrake Hello
+2019-08-06 16:36:23 robdrake ,w
+2019-08-06 16:36:23 BitBot [Weather|robdrake] (Ava, US) 33C/91F | Clear Sky | Humidity: 46% | Wind: 7.6KMh/4.7MPh
+2019-08-06 16:37:29 theone ouch that's hot. I prefer my thunderstorm
+2019-08-06 16:38:07 theone In these days, the temperature goes over 36 celsius, so i appreciate some rain right now
+2019-08-06 16:39:44 robdrake normal SW Missouri weather
+2019-08-06 16:39:52 theone i have to go now, bye!
+2019-08-06 16:39:53 clarjon1 ,w
+2019-08-06 16:39:53 BitBot [Weather|clarjon1] (Mississauga, Ontario, Canada) 26C/79F | Broken Clouds | Humidity: 58% | Wind: 16.6KMh/10.3MPh
+2019-08-06 16:39:59 clarjon1 stay safe theone
+2019-08-06 16:40:07 younix why does bitbot not know that Ava is in Missouri?
+2019-08-06 16:41:27 robdrake Hey ops, anyone know why I can't voice jesopo and level3 in #theasylum?
+2019-08-06 16:42:10 jesopo ,w
+2019-08-06 16:42:10 BitBot [Weather|jesopo] (London, England, United Kingdom) 17C/62F | Light Intensity Shower Rain | Humidity: 88% | Wind: 7.6KMh/4.7MPh
+2019-08-06 16:42:55 jesopo ,config u:robdrake ava us
+2019-08-06 16:42:56 BitBot [Config] Setting not found
+2019-08-06 16:43:02 jesopo ,config u:robdrake location ava us
+2019-08-06 16:43:02 BitBot [Config] Config 'location' set to {'timezone': 'America/Chicago', 'lat': 36.9519236, 'lon': -92.6600096, 'name': 'Ava, Missouri, USA'}
+2019-08-06 16:43:11 jesopo to update the name part
+2019-08-06 16:43:14 younix nice
+2019-08-06 16:43:18 jesopo so it shows Missouri
+2019-08-06 16:43:23 younix ^5
+2019-08-06 16:43:27 jesopo that was a change after robdrake set his location
+2019-08-06 16:43:53 ~khuxkm !w
+2019-08-06 16:43:55 ~khuxkm ,w
+2019-08-06 16:43:55 BitBot [Weather|khuxkm] (Falconer, US) 22C/73F | Thunderstorm With Rain | Humidity: 100% | Wind: 11.2KMh/6.9MPh
+2019-08-06 16:44:05 younix good old 36.95 by -92.66
+2019-08-06 16:44:36 robdrake ,congig u location 65608
+2019-08-06 16:44:37 BitBot robdrake: Unknown command. Did you mean ,config?
+2019-08-06 16:44:45 ~khuxkm this is perfect weather to walk to the convenience store and buy more pizza cause your friend's brother didn't tell you the pizza was done and you needed to cut it?
+2019-08-06 16:44:48 robdrake ,config u location 65608
+2019-08-06 16:44:48 BitBot [Config] Config 'location' set to {'timezone': 'Europe/Tallinn', 'lat': 57.8474806, 'lon': 26.9956801, 'name': 'Estonia'}
+2019-08-06 16:44:49 ~khuxkm right?
+2019-08-06 16:44:58 robdrake wtf?
+2019-08-06 16:45:32 ~khuxkm so I'm kinda babysitting my friend's brothers (they're letting me stay at their house until my mom gets back from work since I have driver's ed)
+2019-08-06 16:45:34 robdrake and khuxkm I could walk to the convienance store, but a long ass hill is in the way
+2019-08-06 16:45:34 jesopo zip codes are not internationally unique
+2019-08-06 16:45:40 younix is that a zip code, rob?
+2019-08-06 16:45:56 robdrake ,config u location Ava, USA
+2019-08-06 16:45:57 BitBot [Config] Config 'location' set to {'timezone': 'America/Chicago', 'lat': 36.9519236, 'lon': -92.6600096, 'name': 'Ava, Missouri, USA'}
+2019-08-06 16:46:03 robdrake ,w
+2019-08-06 16:46:04 BitBot [Weather|robdrake] (Ava, Missouri, USA) 33C/91F | Clear Sky | Humidity: 46% | Wind: 7.6KMh/4.7MPh
+2019-08-06 16:46:05 jesopo :)
+2019-08-06 16:46:22 younix khuxkm: you can fix your state name as well
+2019-08-06 16:46:27 ~khuxkm their mom put a pizza in the toaster oven and told them to let me know when it was done
+2019-08-06 16:46:40 ~khuxkm ,config u location 14733 US
+2019-08-06 16:46:41 BitBot [Config] Config 'location' set to {'timezone': 'America/New_York', 'lat': 42.1241251, 'lon': -79.1913493, 'name': 'New York, USA'}
+2019-08-06 16:46:48 ~khuxkm ,config u location Falconer, NY
+2019-08-06 16:46:48 BitBot [Config] Config 'location' set to {'timezone': 'America/New_York', 'lat': 42.11867, 'lon': -79.19838, 'name': 'Falconer, New York, USA'}
+2019-08-06 16:46:51 ~khuxkm there we go
+2019-08-06 16:47:06 younix my OCD is happy
+2019-08-06 16:47:12 ~khuxkm the middle child took the pizza out of the oven and made the most piss-poor attempt at telling me it was there
+2019-08-06 16:47:19 ~khuxkm dog gets into kitchen and eats it
+2019-08-06 16:47:33 younix the kid and the dog are in cahoots
+2019-08-06 16:48:21 ~khuxkm so I walk about 7 blocks to the convenience store in a thunderstorm in shorts and a t-shirt (thunderstorm was a recent development, t-shirt and shorts were appropriate for morning weather)
+2019-08-06 16:48:37 ~khuxkm I come back and give them each a slice of pizza
+2019-08-06 16:48:47 cdmnky oh god, someone i follow on twitter keeps RTing clown con announcements and they're creepy but hilarious at the same time
+2019-08-06 16:48:48 ~khuxkm they left their slices out and the dog ate those
+2019-08-06 16:49:06 cdmnky it's just collage photos of clowns with word art pasted in from mspaint
+2019-08-06 16:49:08 younix cdmnky: is that an insane clown posse conference?
+2019-08-06 16:49:16 cdmnky younix: no it's actual clowns
+2019-08-06 16:49:22 younix that's so much scarier
+2019-08-06 16:49:30 cdmnky https://twitter.com/TheClownCon/status/1158832243093229568
+2019-08-06 16:49:32 BitBot [Title] CLOWN CON on Twitter: "âš ï¸âš ï¸ THE TIME IS SOON âš ï¸âš ï¸ AND IN 4 (FOUR) DAYS THIS RIBBON 🎀 CLOUD BE YOURS 🤡🤡 GET READY TO LAUGH 😆 GET READY TO CRY ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ GET READY TO CRY ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ AND HAVE A #SAFE TIME AT 2019'S CLOWNCON!!!!!!!!! $#STAYSAFE… https://t.co/YfWIo9w2Uw" - https://ttm.sh/Bt
+2019-08-06 16:49:39 younix oh dear sweet jesus
+2019-08-06 16:49:46 cdmnky every. day.
+2019-08-06 16:49:57 -- minerbot2 (khuxkm@tilde.team) has changed host to minerbot2@tilde.team
+2019-08-06 16:50:14 cdmnky "DON'T CLOWN AROUND!!!!!! - JOHN MCAFEE"
+2019-08-06 16:50:26 younix there's something about a person with a giant fake smile painted on their face and a frown on their actual face that's creepy
+2019-08-06 16:50:41 cdmnky it's so bad
+2019-08-06 16:51:02 cdmnky and the person i'm following is going to it ironically god
+2019-08-06 16:51:07 younix you follow mcafee?
+2019-08-06 16:51:08 cdmnky unironically*
+2019-08-06 16:51:14 younix isn't he a giant troll?
+2019-08-06 16:51:17 cdmnky younix: nah that was from the photo
+2019-08-06 16:51:39 cdmnky mcafee just got out of prison iirc
+2019-08-06 16:51:47 cdmnky from some south american country i forget
+2019-08-06 16:51:52 younix o_O
+2019-08-06 16:51:55 younix i didn't hear about that
+2019-08-06 16:52:01 younix he got extradited?
+2019-08-06 16:52:46 cdmnky i'm looking it up right now
+2019-08-06 16:53:51 cdmnky so he's been in and out of prison for the past few years now
+2019-08-06 16:54:15 cdmnky accused of murdering an expat in belize, illegally entering guatemala
+2019-08-06 16:54:32 younix i read about that back in 2013
+2019-08-06 16:54:38 cdmnky he's living on a boat now because he says he's "on the run from the authorities"
+2019-08-06 16:54:38 younix i think he was on joe rogan too
+2019-08-06 16:54:44 younix hahah
+2019-08-06 16:54:53 cdmnky yeah, apparently he's running for president rn for the libertarian party
+2019-08-06 16:55:01 younix lolol
+2019-08-06 16:55:07 younix more like trolling for president
+2019-08-06 16:55:11 cdmnky which, he was born in britain so he can't
+2019-08-06 16:55:25 younix of the troll party
+2019-08-06 16:55:52 clarjon1 what's the shortcut to put the current window in "full screen" in weechat again?
+2019-08-06 16:55:59 cdmnky he does realize that only birthright citizens can be president right lol?
+2019-08-06 16:56:12 younix yepppp
+2019-08-06 16:56:22 younix he seems like a giant attention whore
+2019-08-06 16:56:38 younix like charlie sheen when he was on a coke fueled meltdown
+2019-08-06 17:00:05 clarjon1 of course he is
+2019-08-06 17:00:17 clarjon1 have you not seen his "How to Uninstall McAfee Antivirus" video?
+2019-08-06 17:01:03 younix i think so... was he in a hugh heffner bathrobe surrounded by women with fake tits in bikinis?
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+2019-08-06 18:11:12 younix https://github.com/ggerganov/kbd-audio
+2019-08-06 18:11:14 BitBot [Title] GitHub - ggerganov/kbd-audio: Tools for capturing and analysing keyboard input paired with microphone capture ðŸŽ¤âŒ¨ï¸ - https://ttm.sh/Be
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+2019-08-06 20:08:59 webchatter0 hi
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+2019-08-06 20:09:16 level3 hello and welcome web chatter
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+2019-08-06 21:06:02 ~ahriman cdmnky: he was born on a US army base to an american father / english mother, so unless he renounced his citizenship he is an american citizen
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+2019-08-06 21:09:40 ~ahriman idk if he's also dual citizen with the UK
+2019-08-06 21:09:52 ~ahriman or if that would complicate things
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+2019-08-06 21:32:59 praetor /me waves
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+2019-08-06 21:56:00 younix he was born on an army base? that explains a lot
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+2019-08-06 22:00:54 praetor whois this?
+2019-08-06 22:01:25 ~ahriman praetor: El Jefe McAffee
+2019-08-06 22:01:25 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-06 22:01:28 ~ahriman ,bef
+2019-08-06 22:01:29 BitBot [Ducks] ahriman befriended a duck in 2.75 seconds! You've befriended 53 ducks in #meta!
+2019-08-06 22:01:36 praetor oh
+2019-08-06 22:01:54 ~ahriman or McAfee el Pendejo
+2019-08-06 22:05:52 ~ahriman i am so braindead right now
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+2019-08-06 22:09:16 praetor me too. my internet is acting goofy. att is supposed to be here tomorrow to fix it
+2019-08-06 22:09:25 praetor but the kitteh is telling me to come hither and sleep
+2019-08-06 22:13:17 ~ahriman lol
+2019-08-06 22:14:27 praetor maybe I'll compromise and lay in my bed with my laptop
+2019-08-06 22:14:47 ~ahriman i had a 6 hour interview yesterday, my flight from SF to ATL landed at 6am this morning, i got home around 730, and fell asleep, i keep waking up and falling asleep, i barely know what day it is xD
+2019-08-06 22:15:04 ~ahriman im like, hopefully ill feel better tomorrow xD
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+2019-08-06 22:16:14 praetor aww
+2019-08-06 22:41:09 lickthecheese hi
+2019-08-06 22:41:46 npa hey lickthecheese
+2019-08-06 22:41:48 younix LICK IT
+2019-08-06 22:41:48 npa also hello all
+2019-08-06 22:42:53 lickthecheese lick it?
+2019-08-06 22:43:04 npa (your name)
+2019-08-06 22:43:17 lickthecheese hmm
+2019-08-06 22:45:28 younix i'm just trying to reinforce your commands sire
+2019-08-06 22:45:38 younix i will make sure they ALL lick the cheese
+2019-08-06 22:48:29 BitBot [RSS] tilde news: Newest Stories: Life After Gmail: Why I Opted for a Private Email Server by cmccabe@users.tilde.news (cmccabe) - https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2019-08-06/you-should-use-a-private-email-server-google-makes-it-hard
+2019-08-06 22:55:16 ~ahriman hi lickthecheese et al
+2019-08-06 22:56:26 younix using a private email server when everyone ELSE uses gmail is kinda pointless
+2019-08-06 22:56:39 younix unless you also use pgp, which is hard to use
+2019-08-06 22:56:46 younix checkmate, google
+2019-08-06 23:05:36 ~ahriman meh
+2019-08-06 23:06:56 ~ahriman reading about "fuck" and its derivatives on wikipedia is hilarious
+2019-08-06 23:07:37 younix :o
+2019-08-06 23:07:44 younix what's a derivative of fuck?
+2019-08-06 23:08:25 ~fosslinux uh
+2019-08-06 23:08:46 younix fuckface?
+2019-08-06 23:17:46 praetor nou
+2019-08-06 23:18:07 praetor probably TMI, but....fuck clothes!
+2019-08-06 23:18:11 * praetor is nice and cool now
+2019-08-06 23:18:57 ~fosslinux tf
+2019-08-06 23:19:07 ~fosslinux ,w praetor
+2019-08-06 23:19:08 BitBot [Weather|praetor] (Fort Worth, US) 31C/88F | Clear Sky | Humidity: 66% | Wind: 11.3KMh/7.0MPh
+2019-08-06 23:19:14 younix rawr
+2019-08-06 23:19:21 ~fosslinux so you're just in your house not wearing clothes???? At all?????
+2019-08-06 23:19:25 ~fosslinux ,time praetor
+2019-08-06 23:19:26 BitBot [Time] Time for praetor: 2019/08/06 22:19:26
+2019-08-06 23:19:33 younix praetor what aren't you wearing
+2019-08-06 23:21:35 praetor socks. I'm not wearing socks
+2019-08-06 23:22:09 praetor fosslinux. yus. cuz it's hot and it's almost bedtime
+2019-08-06 23:22:23 ~ahriman apparently in the article on "Motherfucker", using the word helped Samuel L Jackson overcome stuttering
+2019-08-06 23:22:51 praetor you know, I've heard of that happening. people just getting violently angry, start cursing and their stutter goes away
+2019-08-06 23:24:51 younix that's fascinating
+2019-08-06 23:25:01 younix hearing yourself talking also fixes it, for some reason
+2019-08-06 23:25:11 younix no, it's hearing yourself with a slight delay
+2019-08-06 23:25:23 younix which would cause me to start stuttering!
+2019-08-06 23:26:10 npa i want to hear myself with a reverse delay tbh
+2019-08-06 23:27:50 ~fosslinux reverse?
+2019-08-06 23:28:41 ~ahriman younix: when i'm talking to someone and i hear myself echo back, i literally can't talk until the echo stops or i'll stutter bad
+2019-08-06 23:28:43 younix i think he wants to hear into the future
+2019-08-06 23:28:57 younix ahriman: yep! super disorienting. but not for stutterers!
+2019-08-06 23:29:13 npa younix: correct
+2019-08-06 23:29:23 younix npa: oh! i forgot to ask, how was your talk?
+2019-08-06 23:29:29 ~fosslinux ?
+2019-08-06 23:29:31 younix (about a week late)
+2019-08-06 23:29:40 npa hmm, did i have a talk
+2019-08-06 23:29:56 npa that may have just been the submission deadline for that conference?
+2019-08-06 23:30:13 younix ah, sorry
+2019-08-06 23:30:15 npa still not guaranteed that i get to go (still conditional acceptance, + not sure if i get the funding to go to seattle)
+2019-08-06 23:30:26 threv seattle is awesome
+2019-08-06 23:30:28 npa thanks for remembering though!!
+2019-08-06 23:30:44 younix i remembered part of it, a week late :)
+2019-08-06 23:30:57 younix i remembered it was YOU!
+2019-08-06 23:31:01 younix that's the important part
+2019-08-06 23:31:44 npa exactly
+2019-08-06 23:34:17 younix will this be your first conference presentation?
+2019-08-06 23:34:46 npa (hey, it's not guaranteed yet)
+2019-08-06 23:34:53 npa can't hype it up yet
+2019-08-06 23:35:00 npa (but yes it would be)
+2019-08-06 23:35:12 * younix knocks on wood
+2019-08-06 23:35:23 * younix throws 4 leaf clovers over his shoulder
+2019-08-06 23:36:46 * younix breaks into the conference office and alters the files
+2019-08-06 23:37:06 npa very good
+2019-08-06 23:37:28 younix some people don't believe in these old superstitions, but i do
+2019-08-06 23:37:42 younix never failed me yet
+2019-08-06 23:37:52 ~ben henlo
+2019-08-06 23:37:56 younix benlo
+2019-08-06 23:37:56 npa hey ben
+2019-08-06 23:38:12 ~fosslinux olneh
+2019-08-06 23:38:31 npa what are the olneh twins up to nowadays
+2019-08-06 23:38:47 younix being eclipsed by their older sibling
+2019-08-06 23:38:58 ~ahriman https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Fuckebythenavele
+2019-08-06 23:38:59 npa hm, really?
+2019-08-06 23:39:00 BitBot [Title] Roger Fuckebythenavele - Wikipedia - https://ttm.sh/Bi
+2019-08-06 23:39:13 younix if you were talking about the olsen twins, then yes
+2019-08-06 23:39:28 younix https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Olsen
+2019-08-06 23:39:29 BitBot [Title] Elizabeth Olsen - Wikipedia - https://ttm.sh/Bb
+2019-08-06 23:39:48 threv she's the younger sister
+2019-08-06 23:40:02 younix oh snap
+2019-08-06 23:40:08 younix she looks older
+2019-08-06 23:40:13 ~ahriman Elizabeth Olsen <3
+2019-08-06 23:40:33 threv her older sisters look _haggard_
+2019-08-06 23:40:36 ~ben scarlet witch
+2019-08-06 23:40:41 threv they're silly rich too
+2019-08-06 23:40:53 younix heh, wikipedia doesn't have the best photographers
+2019-08-06 23:40:53 threv also, lol at "oh snap" wrt the avengers
+2019-08-06 23:41:03 npa alsog reat wiki ahriman
+2019-08-06 23:41:05 npa uh
+2019-08-06 23:41:09 npa nice wiki ahriman
+2019-08-06 23:41:15 threv in general mary-kate & ashley look -awful-
+2019-08-06 23:41:30 younix npa: i thought that was spelled backwards
+2019-08-06 23:41:59 npa lol
+2019-08-06 23:44:21 younix hahah.. i like the naming choice: https://github.com/agersant/rustfm-scrobble
+2019-08-06 23:44:23 BitBot [Title] GitHub - agersant/rustfm-scrobble: Last.fm Scrobble API library in Rust - https://ttm.sh/BP
+2019-08-06 23:44:30 threv hah
+2019-08-06 23:44:32 younix could've gone with lastfm-rust, or rust-scrobbler
+2019-08-06 23:44:40 younix but no
+2019-08-06 23:44:40 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-06 23:44:43 younix ,hug
+2019-08-06 23:44:44 BitBot [Ducks] younix befriended a duck in 3.58 seconds! You've befriended 6 ducks in #meta!
+2019-08-06 23:46:08 npa i would have just gone with rustfm tbh
+2019-08-06 23:46:27 ~ben robbler
+2019-08-06 23:46:40 younix npa: he's very thorough
+2019-08-06 23:47:05 younix also, the class name is Scrobbler
+2019-08-06 23:47:16 younix maybe it would be confusing if importing rustfm yielded no RustFM class
+2019-08-06 23:47:43 younix (which begs the question, why is the class called Scrobbler?)
+2019-08-06 23:47:53 npa because you scrobble with it of course
+2019-08-06 23:47:58 threv yeah
+2019-08-06 23:48:03 threv that's what last.fm calls it
+2019-08-06 23:48:06 * ben scrobble npa
+2019-08-06 23:48:06 npa scrib scrob
+2019-08-06 23:48:33 younix touché
+2019-08-06 23:51:30 younix ok night!
+2019-08-06 23:57:07 robdrake level3 ping
+2019-08-06 23:57:40 robdrake ,w level3
+2019-08-06 23:57:40 BitBot [Weather] level3 doesn't have a location set
+2019-08-06 23:58:31 robdrake probably in bed now, if afk for 3 hours, oh well
+2019-08-06 23:59:13 robdrake I almost wish there was a scrabble game for IRC
+2019-08-07 00:02:21 praetor scrabble would be fun
+2019-08-07 00:04:11 robdrake but figuring out the proper placement of tiles...
+2019-08-07 00:05:35 robdrake and how are you praetor?
+2019-08-07 00:06:00 praetor just spiffy. about to head to bed. you?
+2019-08-07 00:06:50 robdrake not trying to sleep through weird dreams tonight, drinking coffee, waiting for a pain pill to kick in
+2019-08-07 00:07:45 robdrake had this dream involving me and my sister-in-law at her work, discussing private matters that involve my brother
+2019-08-07 00:07:56 robdrake I kept saying this is not the time nor place, and she kept on
+2019-08-07 00:08:16 robdrake like my brain was saying, "deal with this"
+2019-08-07 00:09:05 praetor usually how it goes
+2019-08-07 00:09:16 praetor I have PTSD so I understand the weird dream thing all too well
+2019-08-07 00:09:20 robdrake last night it was a 65 year old man got accepted to Harvard on a full ride academic scholarship, and I was thinking about what I needed to do to get the same for Cal-Tech
+2019-08-07 00:10:37 robdrake If I have any PTSD from past abuse, which is the past where it belongs, it expresses itself in extreme agitation, you all just know me on 1mg of Xanax 2x / day
+2019-08-07 00:11:50 robdrake and if someone pisses me off, there is /ignore add or /exit
+2019-08-07 00:11:59 threv ^
+2019-08-07 00:13:40 robdrake hello threv
+2019-08-07 00:13:43 threv ahoy
+2019-08-07 00:13:59 praetor have you considered prazosin?
+2019-08-07 00:14:14 praetor I take it for nightmares. it really helps me
+2019-08-07 00:14:14 robdrake I'm not messing with what works
+2019-08-07 00:14:33 dokuja solid choice
+2019-08-07 00:14:46 robdrake and I'm not under psychiatric care at the moment, trying to get a psychiatrist
+2019-08-07 00:15:12 praetor it's really mild. oddly it's a blood pressure med, but it makes your dreams less intense, so you don't wake up from them, and you almost immediately forget them. it's weird
+2019-08-07 00:15:37 praetor I see my psych on friday
+2019-08-07 00:15:48 praetor I also have psychotic depression. on 7 meds for it all
+2019-08-07 00:16:02 robdrake Too many psychiatrists in Springfield, the nearest 'large' town, are affiliated with Cox Hospitals / Burrell Behavioural Health, which I want nothing to with.
+2019-08-07 00:16:16 * praetor nods
+2019-08-07 00:17:08 robdrake Burrell dropped me as a client when I needed help the most, partly my fault, was self-medicating with marijuana, and not taking my psych meds, but I needed help at the time
+2019-08-07 00:17:50 robdrake that whole story, and the resulting physical health problems, is how I wound up in the nursing home system
+2019-08-07 00:18:01 robdrake long story short that is
+2019-08-07 00:18:48 robdrake what blew up the gravy train was a MRSA infection going from my tailbone, along the inside right cheek, to my scrotum
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+2019-08-07 00:20:21 robdrake so now I mess with computers more than anything else
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+2019-08-07 00:21:07 praetor ok y'all. kitteh is standing on my chest saying its bedtime and he wants his pillow back
+2019-08-07 00:21:16 praetor so I'll talkatcha tomorrow :3
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+2019-08-07 00:21:57 robdrake night praetor
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+2019-08-07 00:22:41 robdrake sorry if those messages were TMI, but I didn't use any vulgarity or profanity
+2019-08-07 00:23:13 robdrake and worse had been talked about in #meta
+2019-08-07 00:27:09 robdrake ok I summoned the crickets
+2019-08-07 00:30:06 ~fosslinux hiiii
+2019-08-07 00:30:09 ~fosslinux hi robdrake
+2019-08-07 00:30:15 ~ahriman hi errbody
+2019-08-07 00:30:34 ~ahriman am making a chicken-balti pie and chile relleno at the same time in the microwave
+2019-08-07 00:30:55 ~fosslinux uh
+2019-08-07 00:30:58 ~fosslinux what are those
+2019-08-07 00:31:01 ~fosslinux ,time ahriman
+2019-08-07 00:31:01 BitBot [Time] Time for ahriman: 2019/08/06 21:31:00
+2019-08-07 00:31:11 ~ahriman ,config user location atlanta
+2019-08-07 00:31:11 BitBot [Config] Config 'location' set to {'timezone': 'America/New_York', 'lat': 33.7490987, 'lon': -84.3901849, 'name': 'Atlanta, Georgia, USA'}
+2019-08-07 00:31:15 ~ahriman ,time
+2019-08-07 00:31:17 BitBot [Time] Time for ahriman: 2019/08/07 00:31:14
+2019-08-07 00:31:45 robdrake sounds good, whatever they are
+2019-08-07 00:32:09 * fosslinux puts ahriman to be
+2019-08-07 00:32:15 ~fosslinux s/$/d
+2019-08-07 00:32:15 timemachine * fosslinux* puts ahriman to bed
+2019-08-07 00:32:25 ~ahriman balti is a curry dish, chile relleno is roasted poblano pepper stuffed with cheese
+2019-08-07 00:32:26 threv ahriman: are you back in ATL?
+2019-08-07 00:32:42 ~ahriman yeah, i landed at 6AM and have been in a sleep-wake haze all day
+2019-08-07 00:32:46 ~ahriman now im starving
+2019-08-07 00:33:13 threv damn
+2019-08-07 00:33:15 threv how long ar eyou here
+2019-08-07 00:33:24 robdrake oh yeah, ahriman how did the interviews go?
+2019-08-07 00:33:25 ~fosslinux yum
+2019-08-07 00:33:26 ~ahriman not sure - i'll find out tomorrow
+2019-08-07 00:33:38 ~ahriman robdrake: it went well i think, it was tough***
+2019-08-07 00:33:43 threv where at?
+2019-08-07 00:33:46 threv good luck :)
+2019-08-07 00:33:48 ~ahriman only one technical exercise, but lots of talking
+2019-08-07 00:33:50 threv lmk, i'm here
+2019-08-07 00:33:50 robdrake technical interview
+2019-08-07 00:33:57 robdrake ?
+2019-08-07 00:33:58 threv what company ahriman
+2019-08-07 00:34:08 npa ripple
+2019-08-07 00:34:28 npa gotta answer 4 you ahriamn
+2019-08-07 00:34:43 ~ahriman lol well i was gonna DM him
+2019-08-07 00:34:47 npa oh
+2019-08-07 00:34:49 npa lol
+2019-08-07 00:34:51 npa woop
+2019-08-07 00:35:03 robdrake what type of company is ripple? I've never heard of it
+2019-08-07 00:35:07 threv fintech
+2019-08-07 00:35:15 robdrake fintech?
+2019-08-07 00:35:27 threv financial technology
+2019-08-07 00:35:33 robdrake oh ok
+2019-08-07 00:35:41 threv atl has a fair amount of that industry
+2019-08-07 00:35:45 threv i worked in fintech for a while
+2019-08-07 00:36:38 robdrake someone and I was discussing Typescript the other day, studying Typescript more, and looks interesting
+2019-08-07 00:36:55 robdrake allitebooks.com to the rescue
+2019-08-07 00:36:56 ~fosslinux typescript > javascript imho
+2019-08-07 00:37:19 npa i don't know anyone who says js > typescript
+2019-08-07 00:37:37 robdrake I just dread that Microsoft is the inventor of Typescript
+2019-08-07 00:37:53 ~fosslinux i dread javascript more tho :p
+2019-08-07 00:37:55 robdrake another example of "embrace and extend"?
+2019-08-07 00:38:06 threv they certainly seem to be a different company culture these days
+2019-08-07 00:38:08 ~fosslinux whats ts licensed?
+2019-08-07 00:38:13 threv satya nadella isn't ballmer or gates
+2019-08-07 00:38:26 ~ahriman nah, i feel like microsoft's developer tooling has genuine intentions
+2019-08-07 00:38:35 threv agreed
+2019-08-07 00:38:37 robdrake I haven't followed Microsoft news lately
+2019-08-07 00:38:39 ~fosslinux threv: ya never know, it could just be m$ trying to take over linux
+2019-08-07 00:38:41 ~fosslinux jk
+2019-08-07 00:38:41 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-07 00:38:43 ~fosslinux ,bef
+2019-08-07 00:38:43 BitBot [Ducks] fosslinux befriended a duck in 1.89 seconds! You've befriended 33 ducks in #meta!
+2019-08-07 00:38:46 threv fosslinux: *nod*
+2019-08-07 00:38:53 threv i don't inherently _trust_ any big corp, for sure
+2019-08-07 00:39:05 threv but linux wouldn't have gotten where it currently is w/out companies & money behind it
+2019-08-07 00:39:12 ~fosslinux (twas a joke)
+2019-08-07 00:39:24 ~fosslinux youre right tho
+2019-08-07 00:39:31 threv oh i know it was a joke :)
+2019-08-07 00:39:35 robdrake Blueberry cobbler coffee anyone?
+2019-08-07 00:39:38 ~fosslinux :)
+2019-08-07 00:39:39 threv it's an interesting time to be in this industry
+2019-08-07 00:39:40 ~fosslinux wat dat
+2019-08-07 00:39:52 ~fosslinux or to be in this industry in 10 years (me)
+2019-08-07 00:40:09 threv oh for sure
+2019-08-07 00:40:35 robdrake I'd like to be in the industry, but I'd need a comfortable cot to work
+2019-08-07 00:40:45 robdrake laptop under cot, with space to type
+2019-08-07 00:40:58 robdrake off of tailbone
+2019-08-07 00:41:16 robdrake 3 winters in a row, slipped on ice, landed straight down on tailbone
+2019-08-07 00:41:48 threv :(
+2019-08-07 00:41:52 threv that suuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks
+2019-08-07 00:41:57 robdrake yes
+2019-08-07 00:42:42 robdrake at least my Dr here listened to me explain my situation, and prescribed a low dose pain pill, I just asked for the lowest dose to relieve the pain
+2019-08-07 00:42:52 threv *nod*
+2019-08-07 00:43:38 robdrake no 'high' or euphoria, just pain relief, though I could probably do more computing with a higher dose, don't want to risk getting a high from pain medicine
+2019-08-07 00:44:13 robdrake sorry to gripe so much in #meta, maybe I should go to #bitching
+2019-08-07 00:44:15 threv *nod*
+2019-08-07 00:44:17 threv no you're good
+2019-08-07 00:50:21 nincollin so far I have a decent library of titles working in Wine http://tilde.town/~nincollin/junk/library.PNG
+2019-08-07 00:50:31 threv sweet
+2019-08-07 00:51:35 nincollin I still have a few things to install, and after that I'm gonna work on getting DOSBox and other emulators set up
+2019-08-07 00:52:06 robdrake Hello nincollin
+2019-08-07 00:52:12 nincollin hey robdrake
+2019-08-07 00:52:33 robdrake just curious, have we met? If not, glad to meet you
+2019-08-07 00:53:13 nincollin I greeted you in both #meta & #team the other day
+2019-08-07 00:53:23 robdrake oh ok
+2019-08-07 00:53:30 robdrake too many names to remember
+2019-08-07 00:53:53 nincollin heh
+2019-08-07 00:54:00 robdrake I wonder how many people are connected due to forgotten znc's
+2019-08-07 00:55:43 ~fosslinux or weechats in tmux
+2019-08-07 00:55:46 kirch not me - I'm a genuine lurker :3
+2019-08-07 00:55:47 ~fosslinux /screen
+2019-08-07 00:56:25 robdrake tmux > screen
+2019-08-07 00:56:40 robdrake and hello kirch
+2019-08-07 00:56:45 kirch o/
+2019-08-07 00:57:00 * kirch is almost done with his first React/Docker app -- but still can't get a VM or Vagrant to run to install docker and test it
+2019-08-07 00:57:49 robdrake kirch, you need a shell?
+2019-08-07 00:58:06 robdrake if so, let's talk in #theasylum
+2019-08-07 00:58:41 ~fosslinux ?
+2019-08-07 00:59:15 robdrake offering kirch what space I can for his app, can't I install docker for him, or is it too much work?
+2019-08-07 00:59:19 kirch I have one on team & town -- not sure if anyone has docker
+2019-08-07 00:59:30 ~fosslinux robdrake: Docker will have security issues
+2019-08-07 00:59:35 ~fosslinux iirc
+2019-08-07 00:59:38 robdrake oh ok fosslinux
+2019-08-07 00:59:40 ~deepend robdrake: probably a ton of people in here that forgot about a tmux or vnc session lol
+2019-08-07 00:59:49 ~fosslinux let me check
+2019-08-07 00:59:58 kirch I'm fine -- it's not a requirement -- it's just a coding test -- I tried, so if it works even though I haven't tested the docker portion - yay me - if it doesn't, they'll just have to run the 2 servers on their own
+2019-08-07 01:00:26 ~fosslinux robdrake: for all these various niche setups you have, likely an lxd container for the specific user is better
+2019-08-07 01:00:28 ~deepend kirch: if your not needing any major ports I could probably just spin up a box for you to test with
+2019-08-07 01:00:41 robdrake hmmm
+2019-08-07 01:00:48 threv docker isn't any more or less secure than lxd
+2019-08-07 01:01:02 ~fosslinux but fyi, you'll never be able to migrate to a lxc container on ben's host
+2019-08-07 01:01:11 robdrake more to learn, and I'm busy with Phaser 3/Typescript
+2019-08-07 01:01:34 ~fosslinux threv: i'm proabbly wrong, but dont you have to be in the docker group to mess with docker containers?
+2019-08-07 01:01:46 ~fosslinux and ddocker group == basically sudo
+2019-08-07 01:01:55 threv you don't have to be
+2019-08-07 01:02:00 threv docker group isn't necessarily sudo
+2019-08-07 01:02:24 threv but i see what you're saying
+2019-08-07 01:02:58 robdrake As I've said, I'm a programmer, not a sysadmin, I just pay the bill
+2019-08-07 01:03:13 ~fosslinux The docker group grants privileges equivalent to the root user. For details on how this impacts security in your system, see Docker Daemon Attack Surface.
+2019-08-07 01:03:22 ~fosslinux is what i meant
+2019-08-07 01:03:26 threv ah ha
+2019-08-07 01:03:34 threv i stand corrected
+2019-08-07 01:03:44 ~fosslinux so docker group == basically root to be more specific ;)
+2019-08-07 01:03:52 robdrake kirch, I'd have to say no based on given advice
+2019-08-07 01:04:01 robdrake sorry
+2019-08-07 01:04:04 threv fosslinux: thanks!
+2019-08-07 01:04:23 ~fosslinux np threv, sorry if i soundd a bit harsh
+2019-08-07 01:04:27 threv not at all!
+2019-08-07 01:05:02 kirch meh - seriously not worried, just slightly annoyed @ my machine
+2019-08-07 01:05:11 kirch I've got a server I could set this up on - but I simply don't wanna be arsed
+2019-08-07 01:05:45 ~fosslinux robdrake: im confuse about theasylum. if your not the sysadmin, is there a reason you keep trying to catre to niche setups? is it just to try and gain users? (not meant to be harsh, just a legit question(
+2019-08-07 01:06:23 robdrake yeah, mostly cater to users the other tilde's can't
+2019-08-07 01:06:38 robdrake and I had postgresql already installed for my uses
+2019-08-07 01:06:38 ~fosslinux mhm
+2019-08-07 01:07:11 * kirch partially setup fuckup.solutions to be a tilde -- but it isn't his box, so he only gives out accounts under special circumstances
+2019-08-07 01:07:59 robdrake I may do sudo apt purge postgresql, and tell level3 that his solution is out of my reach
+2019-08-07 01:08:36 robdrake as little as people use theasylum, I can't keep bugging people for help
+2019-08-07 01:08:54 ~fosslinux kirch: who's box?
+2019-08-07 01:09:19 ~deepend robdrake: what kind of solution does level3 need?
+2019-08-07 01:09:32 kirch fella named sixten
+2019-08-07 01:09:56 robdrake a postgresql server w/ remote access, he exceded the 10k row limit of Heroku
+2019-08-07 01:10:03 kirch srsly, don't know his real name -- we chatted on mumble a couple times -- hangout in maddshark#discord every now & then
+2019-08-07 01:11:07 kirch I don't even idle on their IRC -- no idea if anyone BUT sixten uses the IRC
+2019-08-07 01:13:10 ~fosslinux robdrake: do you know why postgresql?
+2019-08-07 01:13:22 robdrake s/10k/10k free/
+2019-08-07 01:13:22 timemachine a postgresql server w/ remote access, he exceded the 10k free row limit of Heroku
+2019-08-07 01:13:41 robdrake and postgresql is preferred ofer mysql in the node.js community
+2019-08-07 01:13:49 robdrake s/ofer/over/
+2019-08-07 01:13:49 timemachine and postgresql is preferred over mysql in the node.js community
+2019-08-07 01:14:03 ~fosslinux what's the purpose of this db?
+2019-08-07 01:14:17 robdrake I forget, ask level3 when you catch him
+2019-08-07 01:14:48 robdrake I'm just going to say I tried, but theasylum can't provide what you need
+2019-08-07 01:15:04 ~fosslinux sounds like it's for some kind of application
+2019-08-07 01:15:15 robdrake yeah, I think so
+2019-08-07 01:15:31 ~fosslinux if it's proprietary, very few if any tildes will give them that
+2019-08-07 01:15:53 ~deepend especially remote access to said database ^
+2019-08-07 01:16:01 kirch Mini-mystery time.... wifey was sitting on the couch working on a painting when suddenly a praying mantis walks across her painting -- we still have no idea where it came from, but it was fairly big and none of us had been outside yet at that point of the day -- escorted them outside where they could find a better residence
+2019-08-07 01:16:24 ~fosslinux oh no!
+2019-08-07 01:16:26 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-07 01:16:27 ~fosslinux ,bef
+2019-08-07 01:16:28 npa ,trap
+2019-08-07 01:16:29 BitBot [Ducks] fosslinux befriended a duck in 4.52 seconds! You've befriended 34 ducks in #meta!
+2019-08-07 01:16:29 BitBot [Ducks] npa: There was no duck!
+2019-08-07 01:16:32 ~fosslinux rip the painting
+2019-08-07 01:16:50 robdrake not proprietary, just moving the db from the Heroku provider
+2019-08-07 01:16:53 ~ahriman kirch: did the praying mantis attempt to mate with you and bite your head off?
+2019-08-07 01:17:26 kirch yes, now i'm dead
+2019-08-07 01:17:38 threv rip in peace
+2019-08-07 01:17:40 ~deepend if it wasn't postgres I'd probably be willing.. but never had interest in having postgres on anything lol
+2019-08-07 01:17:44 ~fosslinux robdrake: but what if the application is proprietary
+2019-08-07 01:18:05 robdrake I'm just saying fsck it
+2019-08-07 01:18:48 robdrake theasylum provides a service to the official tilde's anyway, minetest host
+2019-08-07 01:19:02 npa postgres is best db
+2019-08-07 01:19:07 npa prove me wrong
+2019-08-07 01:19:57 ~fosslinux uh
+2019-08-07 01:20:39 ~ahriman npa: excel spreadsheets are the best db
+2019-08-07 01:20:42 ~fosslinux lmao
+2019-08-07 01:20:42 ~deepend npa: nothing to do with best or worse. Just stuck with status quo. is all .
+2019-08-07 01:20:59 ~fosslinux deepend: high school musical reference there?
+2019-08-07 01:21:13 ~fosslinux we're doing hsm for our school musical
+2019-08-07 01:21:21 ~fosslinux school musical BAD
+2019-08-07 01:21:24 ~deepend fosslinux: nothing I say is ever that thought out. lol
+2019-08-07 01:21:31 ~fosslinux ;p
+2019-08-07 01:21:34 robdrake hsm?
+2019-08-07 01:21:43 ~fosslinux high school musical
+2019-08-07 01:21:45 ~ahriman fosslinux: my condolences for having to do High School Musical
+2019-08-07 01:21:57 ~fosslinux tanq
+2019-08-07 01:21:58 robdrake hsm for a school musical?
+2019-08-07 01:22:02 ~fosslinux yeah
+2019-08-07 01:22:06 ~fosslinux high school musical on stage
+2019-08-07 01:22:08 robdrake okaay
+2019-08-07 01:22:23 ~ahriman Vanessa hudgens is finally acting again i think
+2019-08-07 01:22:33 ~ahriman after the tits/bush fiasco
+2019-08-07 01:22:37 ~fosslinux My High School presents High School Musical On Stage
+2019-08-07 01:22:44 ~fosslinux confus 1000
+2019-08-07 01:23:04 ~fosslinux ahriman: uhhhhh
+2019-08-07 01:23:06 ~fosslinux uhhh
+2019-08-07 01:23:39 ~ahriman well a bunch of nudes came out and disney or whoever dropped her
+2019-08-07 01:23:49 ~ahriman then she disappeared for a long time
+2019-08-07 01:23:52 npa huh
+2019-08-07 01:23:54 ~ahriman now she's acting again
+2019-08-07 01:24:03 ~fosslinux o
+2019-08-07 01:24:06 ~fosslinux nudes--
+2019-08-07 01:24:06 BitBot [Karma] nudes now has -1 karma
+2019-08-07 01:24:35 ~ahriman she's a good actress, it sucks she had to lay low so long over puritan bs
+2019-08-07 01:24:43 vantablack ben: the mumble is down again
+2019-08-07 01:25:02 ~fosslinux been a while
+2019-08-07 01:25:17 ~ahriman thats like a mumble uptime record
+2019-08-07 01:25:25 ~fosslinux ;p
+2019-08-07 01:25:41 robdrake ben is in bed I think
+2019-08-07 01:25:50 ~fosslinux yeah he would be
+2019-08-07 01:27:24 <-- myrkul (myrkul@tilde.team) has quit (quit: WeeChat 2.5)
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+2019-08-07 01:28:36 * robdrake passes Blueberry Cobbler coffee to all active chatters
+2019-08-07 01:28:55 robdrake As a diabetic, I can have the taste w/o the sugar
+2019-08-07 01:31:06 kirch the texture of sugar-free Life-Savers is so wildly different that even if I had diabetes I'd risk it for the sugared ones
+2019-08-07 01:37:32 robdrake most of the sugar-free candy is made with sugar alcohol, which is listed in the carbs section, and if too much is consumed, causes the runs
+2019-08-07 01:37:39 ~fosslinux :(
+2019-08-07 01:37:46 ~fosslinux dat unfortunate
+2019-08-07 01:38:35 ~fosslinux i've realised that i live a far better medical life than some
+2019-08-07 01:39:34 ~ahriman robdrake: is that the mystery behind the sugar free gummy bears on amazon?!?!
+2019-08-07 01:39:44 robdrake no clue
+2019-08-07 01:40:02 ~ahriman folks say they eat them and get projectile diarrhea
+2019-08-07 01:41:17 robdrake idk if sugar alcohol causes projectile diarrhea, but it does cause diarrhea, to the point there is a warning label on the package
+2019-08-07 01:43:16 robdrake I'll catch you all later, getting off my tailbone for a bit
+2019-08-07 01:43:49 ~ahriman robdrake: https://www.amazon.com/Albanese-Candy-Sugar-Assorted-5-pound/dp/B00DE4GWWY/
+2019-08-07 01:43:52 BitBot [Title] Amazon.com : Albanese Candy, Sugar Free Assorted Fruit Gummi Bears, 5-pound Bag : Gummy Candy : Grocery & Gourmet Food - https://ttm.sh/Bw
+2019-08-07 01:43:53 ~ahriman read the reviews
+2019-08-07 02:48:49 <-- r3m (~launch@ircwhoisguard.com) has quit (quit: WeeChat 2.6-dev)
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+2019-08-07 02:54:57 robdrake I'll check it later, and hello all
+2019-08-07 02:57:18 robdrake idk why I came back on, I should just rest
+2019-08-07 03:01:45 ~ahriman i just finished watching the movie "A Walk Among the Tombstones". Great film, but this was the exit track, and holy shit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUV6mStF8AY
+2019-08-07 03:01:46 BitBot [Youtube] SWANN feat. Nouela - Black Hole Sun (Soundgarden Cover) (04:08) uploaded by SWANN., 484,103 views (5533↑↓76) https://youtu.be/PUV6mStF8AY
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+2019-08-07 04:15:59 vantablack fosslinux: idk where exactly you meant but yeah if there's wheat somewhere feel free to harvest it as long as you replant
+2019-08-07 04:16:34 vantablack we have like an industrial-sized farm i can show you that has all the seeds in chests
+2019-08-07 04:17:06 vantablack it's on the new player tour, i definitely recommend that if i haven't given it to you already
+2019-08-07 04:55:03 --> gareppa (gareppa) (~gareppa@151.15.127.43) has joined #meta
+2019-08-07 04:55:53 -- Kneazle is now known as kneezle
+2019-08-07 04:56:09 -- kneezle is now known as Kneezle
+2019-08-07 05:04:50 ~fosslinux vantablack: yeah I don't think I was ever given that
+2019-08-07 05:06:18 <-- gareppa (~gareppa@151.15.127.43) has quit (quit: Leaving)
+2019-08-07 05:09:51 ~tomasino good morning all
+2019-08-07 05:09:56 ~tomasino ,hug
+2019-08-07 05:09:57 BitBot [Ducks] tomasino: There was no duck!
+2019-08-07 05:16:59 ~Kneezle lol
+2019-08-07 05:17:05 * Kneezle hugs tomasino
+2019-08-07 05:17:10 ~tomasino thanks!
+2019-08-07 05:17:23 ~tomasino wakin' up with a hug & some coffee
+2019-08-07 05:17:48 ~Kneezle <# the best
+2019-08-07 05:17:52 * jesopo hands coffee out
+2019-08-07 05:18:02 ~ahriman hi Kneezle fren
+2019-08-07 05:18:22 ~Kneezle ahriman <3 <3
+2019-08-07 05:18:27 ~Kneezle its LATE there
+2019-08-07 05:18:33 ~Kneezle ,time ahriman
+2019-08-07 05:18:33 BitBot [Time] Time for ahriman: 2019/08/07 05:18:33
+2019-08-07 05:18:36 ~Kneezle O.O
+2019-08-07 05:18:47 jesopo ,time
+2019-08-07 05:18:47 BitBot [Time] Time for jesopo: 2019/08/07 10:18:47
+2019-08-07 05:18:49 ~ahriman yeah but my flight landed at 6AM and i slept all day
+2019-08-07 05:19:02 ~tomasino ,w
+2019-08-07 05:19:02 BitBot [Weather|tomasino] (Iceland) 10C/51F | Broken Clouds | Humidity: 71% | Wind: 7.6KMh/4.7MPh
+2019-08-07 05:19:03 ~Kneezle damn
+2019-08-07 05:19:14 jesopo ,w
+2019-08-07 05:19:14 BitBot [Weather|jesopo] (London, England, United Kingdom) 19C/66F | Scattered Clouds | Humidity: 64% | Wind: 18.4KMh/11.4MPh
+2019-08-07 05:19:17 ~ahriman it was a fucking 737 so i had no room to sleep
+2019-08-07 05:19:20 ~Kneezle ugh
+2019-08-07 05:19:28 ~ahriman my flight TO sf was a 757 which is much more comfy
+2019-08-07 05:19:28 ~Kneezle so you are home now, ahriman ?
+2019-08-07 05:19:34 ~ahriman ya back home
+2019-08-07 05:19:44 ~Kneezle welcome back
+2019-08-07 05:19:49 ~Kneezle any news on the job stuffz?
+2019-08-07 05:19:57 ~ahriman ill dm ya
+2019-08-07 05:20:02 ~Kneezle <3
+2019-08-07 06:11:44 den1 vilvibm
+2019-08-07 06:11:46 den1 hi
+2019-08-07 07:20:37 den1 exit
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+2019-08-07 07:23:33 den1 how can i switch to dm on weechat
+2019-08-07 07:23:39 den1 not using byobu btw
+2019-08-07 07:24:01 den1 also can't see vilmibm is in the channel but
+2019-08-07 07:24:04 den1 i need help
+2019-08-07 07:36:06 creme if you don't want to this happen by default when you log in, run byobu-disable .
+2019-08-07 07:36:28 creme in weechat you can use: /whois username
+2019-08-07 07:37:03 creme and in the nicklist you can scroll with: /bar scroll nicklist * y+10
+2019-08-07 07:37:13 creme and : /bar scroll nicklist * y-10
+2019-08-07 07:38:26 den1 thx
+2019-08-07 07:38:39 den1 new to weechat
+2019-08-07 07:39:32 creme you can also add aliases..
+2019-08-07 07:39:37 creme /alias add NDOWN /bar scroll nicklist * y+10
+2019-08-07 07:39:41 creme /alias add NUP /bar scroll nicklist * y-10
+2019-08-07 07:41:33 creme here is a good help for weechat: https://weechat.org/files/doc/stable/weechat_user.en.html
+2019-08-07 07:41:35 creme ;)
+2019-08-07 07:41:36 BitBot [Title] WeeChat user’s guide - https://ttm.sh/hM
+2019-08-07 07:41:41 den1 thanks :)
+2019-08-07 07:41:49 den1 i liked alias thing
+2019-08-07 07:41:53 den1 will use
+2019-08-07 07:44:50 creme np den1
+2019-08-07 07:44:56 creme feel you welcome
+2019-08-07 08:06:12 ~ubergeek den1: if you want to dm someone, /msg {nick} {your message's text}
+2019-08-07 08:06:20 ~ubergeek It will open another buffer for you
+2019-08-07 08:16:28 krowbar hoi internet
+2019-08-07 08:16:47 jesopo hiya
+2019-08-07 08:16:47 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-07 08:16:51 jesopo ,bef
+2019-08-07 08:16:51 BitBot [Ducks] jesopo befriended a duck in 3.92 seconds! You've befriended 53 ducks in #meta!
+2019-08-07 08:16:54 jesopo gimme. the duck
+2019-08-07 08:17:31 ryan wow lewd
+2019-08-07 08:20:17 den1 ,bef
+2019-08-07 08:20:17 BitBot [Ducks] den1: There was no duck!
+2019-08-07 08:20:25 den1 lol
+2019-08-07 08:20:47 den1 wish there was a duck and befriended it in 0.1 seconds
+2019-08-07 08:21:10 den1 are them completely spawned randomly?
+2019-08-07 08:21:15 den1 are they*
+2019-08-07 08:22:06 jesopo yes
+2019-08-07 08:28:11 den1 guys just landed a tilde at 18.194.196.137 will buy domain soon, but currently you can check homepage
+2019-08-07 08:28:15 ~Kneezle ,biscuit
+2019-08-07 08:28:19 ~Kneezle cool cool
+2019-08-07 08:28:21 ~Kneezle checking
+2019-08-07 08:28:39 ~Kneezle wheeee looks good
+2019-08-07 08:28:54 ~Kneezle how about a cool name like batmantilde.com?
+2019-08-07 08:28:57 den1 if you see a weird thing or text please inform me
+2019-08-07 08:29:00 ~Kneezle ok
+2019-08-07 08:29:09 den1 sounds good
+2019-08-07 08:29:25 den1 i don't have much budget so i'm looking for cheap domains
+2019-08-07 08:29:43 ~Kneezle learning-tilde.com
+2019-08-07 08:29:49 ~Kneezle squishtilde.info
+2019-08-07 08:29:51 krowbar nice den1! is `~site` a placeholder for now?
+2019-08-07 08:29:57 ~Kneezle edu-tilde.info
+2019-08-07 08:30:03 ~Kneezle site-tilde.com
+2019-08-07 08:30:05 den1 yes
+2019-08-07 08:30:07 den1 but it can get real
+2019-08-07 08:30:20 ~Kneezle real-tilde.com
+2019-08-07 08:30:21 den1 there is a domain registered by tilde.team as tilde.site
+2019-08-07 08:30:22 ~Kneezle lol
+2019-08-07 08:30:32 ~Kneezle i think he wants to keep that
+2019-08-07 08:30:38 ~Kneezle its an alias for people too
+2019-08-07 08:30:44 ~Kneezle so they might be upset at losing it
+2019-08-07 08:30:51 ~Kneezle i think you can use it for email
+2019-08-07 08:30:52 den1 yes
+2019-08-07 08:31:02 den1 i just think that it is just unused one
+2019-08-07 08:31:15 den1 it would be good to use it for email
+2019-08-07 08:31:44 den1 are there anyone who can donate a domain name to me
+2019-08-07 08:32:15 ~Kneezle lets see what i have
+2019-08-07 08:32:44 den1 k waiting thx
+2019-08-07 08:33:09 ~Kneezle tildeporn.club
+2019-08-07 08:33:21 den1 srsly?
+2019-08-07 08:33:23 krowbar uhhhhh... how about not?
+2019-08-07 08:33:24 den1 lol
+2019-08-07 08:33:27 ~Kneezle lol
+2019-08-07 08:33:52 ~Kneezle tilde.best?
+2019-08-07 08:33:56 den1 cool!
+2019-08-07 08:33:59 den1 liked it
+2019-08-07 08:34:01 ~Kneezle theres also tilde.live
+2019-08-07 08:34:09 den1 best sounds better
+2019-08-07 08:34:11 ~Kneezle i don't have either, but i can try to reg them when i get home
+2019-08-07 08:34:11 den1 to me
+2019-08-07 08:34:20 den1 thx
+2019-08-07 08:34:25 ~Kneezle .best is under $2
+2019-08-07 08:34:35 ~Kneezle so yeah
+2019-08-07 08:35:00 den1 which registrar is it
+2019-08-07 08:35:07 ~Kneezle https://www.namecheap.com/domains/registration/results.aspx?domain=tilde.best
+2019-08-07 08:35:19 ~Kneezle feel free to snatch it first
+2019-08-07 08:35:33 krowbar better grab it before they automatically raise the price because people looked at it
+2019-08-07 08:35:39 ~Kneezle lol i can't till tonight
+2019-08-07 08:35:44 ~Kneezle don't have access to my account
+2019-08-07 08:36:05 ~Kneezle tilde.world is also cheap
+2019-08-07 08:36:25 den1 lol i can't cuz i don't have a payment method which i can use online
+2019-08-07 08:36:39 ~Kneezle then you got to wait :-p
+2019-08-07 08:36:46 den1 ok thx
+2019-08-07 08:36:47 ~Kneezle unless someone else steals it first
+2019-08-07 08:36:57 ~Kneezle if they do, its likely krowbar
+2019-08-07 08:36:58 den1 guys, please dont
+2019-08-07 08:37:00 den1 haha
+2019-08-07 08:38:59 den1 please send me a e-mail when you bought it
+2019-08-07 08:39:04 den1 aliqui@protonmail.com
+2019-08-07 08:39:25 den1 thx a lot even you didn't bought it because of cool name recommendations
+2019-08-07 08:40:36 ~Kneezle =)
+2019-08-07 08:40:41 ~Kneezle i'll try when i get home
+2019-08-07 08:56:37 ~ben goob mornign
+2019-08-07 08:56:41 jesopo goobs
+2019-08-07 08:56:43 * krowbar squats on all the domains
+2019-08-07 08:56:56 jesopo squat to asshurt your dominance
+2019-08-07 08:59:03 krowbar just nestle gently on top of all those domains and incubate them until they are ready to hatch
+2019-08-07 09:05:55 --> kirk781 (realname) (~kirk781@203.110.242.7) has joined #meta
+2019-08-07 09:25:25 login welcome back kirk781
+2019-08-07 09:25:27 login how have you been?
+2019-08-07 09:25:36 login is it summer vacation now?
+2019-08-07 09:26:23 kirk781 Nah, summer vacation is usually in May/June
+2019-08-07 09:28:01 login how's your evening been? do you watch anime?
+2019-08-07 09:31:16 --> jack3 [jack3] (jack) (~the_kink@pool-71-255-176-83.slsbmd.east.verizon.net) has joined #meta
+2019-08-07 09:34:56 echelon all the talking prob happens in #town
+2019-08-07 09:35:08 echelon it being private and full of 2000 people
+2019-08-07 09:35:09 echelon rofl
+2019-08-07 09:37:12 kirk781 login, fortunately, I am not a weeb
+2019-08-07 09:37:21 kirk781 login, but unfortunately, I know a couple of IRL weebs
+2019-08-07 09:38:26 ~ben ~town's been relatively quiet lately
+2019-08-07 09:39:03 kirk781 I have seen a couple of anime shows though
+2019-08-07 09:47:59 krowbar surprising to me, Netflix has been funding several anime for exclusives
+2019-08-07 09:48:27 ~ben never been a fan of animes
+2019-08-07 09:48:32 krowbar that's fine
+2019-08-07 09:48:40 ~ben avatar the last airbender was the closest i've gotten
+2019-08-07 09:48:55 ~ben actually one of my college friends got me to watch the titan attack one
+2019-08-07 09:48:57 ~ben was super weird
+2019-08-07 09:49:08 krowbar yeah, that one is particularly weird
+2019-08-07 09:50:15 <-- den1 (den@tilde.team) has quit (quit: WeeChat 2.5)
+2019-08-07 09:50:36 ~ben also i've found anecdotally that people with anime profile pictures on fedi have the worst takes
+2019-08-07 09:51:11 praetor 'morning
+2019-08-07 09:51:29 ~ben henlo praetor
+2019-08-07 09:51:39 praetor how goes it?
+2019-08-07 09:51:43 ~ben it do
+2019-08-07 09:51:49 praetor dat good
+2019-08-07 09:51:59 ~ben upgrading vs on my $work laptop
+2019-08-07 09:52:10 praetor sounds..umm...fun
+2019-08-07 09:52:20 ~ben it's just waiting at this poitn
+2019-08-07 09:52:40 praetor hmph
+2019-08-07 09:53:01 ~ben only upgrading to 2017 tho
+2019-08-07 09:53:09 ~ben hard to find downloads for since it's on 2019 now
+2019-08-07 09:53:21 echelon i don't like many anime
+2019-08-07 09:53:25 echelon but there are a few that stuck out
+2019-08-07 09:53:30 echelon Soul Eater
+2019-08-07 09:53:33 echelon Death Note
+2019-08-07 09:53:35 krowbar installing new versions of VS have always been an adventure for me. it can take anywhere from 2 hours to 72 hours...
+2019-08-07 09:53:35 echelon Witchblade
+2019-08-07 09:53:42 echelon Full Metal Alchemist
+2019-08-07 09:53:45 echelon sthat's pretty much it
+2019-08-07 09:53:47 ~ben hopefully this doesn't take all day
+2019-08-07 09:53:50 ~ben i've got shit to do
+2019-08-07 09:54:04 ~ben at least i can hang out on irc while i wait :3
+2019-08-07 09:54:05 praetor anime makes me hungry
+2019-08-07 09:54:05 kirk781 ben, Avatar was good. I loved it
+2019-08-07 09:54:10 ~ben such a good show
+2019-08-07 09:54:16 ~ben i've got it on my mediaserver
+2019-08-07 09:54:16 praetor I like the cutesy anime like Aggretsuko
+2019-08-07 09:54:21 echelon avatar wasn't technically anime
+2019-08-07 09:54:21 kirk781 I have seen Death Note, High School DxD and Detroit Metal City
+2019-08-07 09:54:35 krowbar echelon: did you read that really great applied computer science paper on Death Note? https://www.gwern.net/Death-Note-Anonymity
+2019-08-07 09:54:38 BitBot [Title] Death Note: L, Anonymity & Eluding Entropy - Gwern.net - https://ttm.sh/BT
+2019-08-07 09:54:50 echelon no, but that sounds interesting
+2019-08-07 09:55:30 kirk781 echelon, true
+2019-08-07 09:55:32 krowbar even for non-fans of that particular show, it was interesting regarding how to de-anonymize somebody based on information leakage
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+2019-08-07 10:02:44 ~ubergeek About the only anime I'm a fan of is older-school anime, generally.
+2019-08-07 10:02:52 ~ubergeek Robotech(s), etc
+2019-08-07 10:02:53 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-07 10:02:55 ~ben ,bef
+2019-08-07 10:02:55 BitBot [Ducks] ben befriended a duck in 2.27 seconds! You've befriended 118 ducks in #meta!
+2019-08-07 10:02:55 ~ubergeek ,bef
+2019-08-07 10:02:56 BitBot [Ducks] ubergeek: There was no duck!
+2019-08-07 10:03:00 krowbar ,boo
+2019-08-07 10:03:00 BitBot krowbar: Unknown command. Did you mean ,book?
+2019-08-07 10:03:06 ~ben ,book
+2019-08-07 10:03:07 BitBot [ISBN] Not enough arguments, usage: ,book
+2019-08-07 10:03:11 ~ubergeek ,trout
+2019-08-07 10:03:14 ~ben ,brook
+2019-08-07 10:03:15 BitBot ben: Unknown command. Did you mean ,book?
+2019-08-07 10:03:41 ~ubergeek I do like it has some sense of suggestion.
+2019-08-07 10:03:49 ~ben ,book a wrinkle in time
+2019-08-07 10:03:50 BitBot [ISBN] Een rimpel in de tijd - Madeleine L'Engle (2018-03-08) https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=9FE8DwAAQBAJ
+2019-08-07 10:04:03 ~ben why is that dutch
+2019-08-07 10:04:09 kirch ,book wrinkly time
+2019-08-07 10:04:10 BitBot [ISBN] Een rimpel in de tijd - Madeleine L'Engle (2018-03-08) https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=9FE8DwAAQBAJ
+2019-08-07 10:04:15 ~ben lol
+2019-08-07 10:04:21 ~ben !toot wrinkly time
+2019-08-07 10:04:27 tooter tooted! https://tilde.zone/@tildeverse/102576073393106516
+2019-08-07 10:04:40 ~ben !toot
+2019-08-07 10:04:45 ~ben !toot Een rimpel in de tijd - Madeleine L'Engle
+2019-08-07 10:04:54 ~ben why so sslow
+2019-08-07 10:05:09 <-- tooter (ben@tilde.team) has quit (Connection closed)
+2019-08-07 10:05:15 ~ben oh no
+2019-08-07 10:05:17 login don't know what happened
+2019-08-07 10:05:20 --> tooter (mastodon tooter) (ben@tilde.team) has joined #meta
+2019-08-07 10:05:21 login *happenned
+2019-08-07 10:05:25 kirch Didn't they make that into a movie, with like Oprah?
+2019-08-07 10:05:27 ~ben !toot Een rimpel in de tijd - Madeleine L'Engle
+2019-08-07 10:05:28 tooter tooted! https://tilde.zone/@tildeverse/102576077385485669
+2019-08-07 10:05:31 login *single n, not double
+2019-08-07 10:05:35 ~ben ya they did
+2019-08-07 10:05:35 login did it run out of memory?
+2019-08-07 10:05:41 den1 hey can someone recommend colors for http://18.194.196.137/
+2019-08-07 10:05:42 BitBot [Title] ~site - https://ttm.sh/Bp
+2019-08-07 10:05:47 ~ben i'm guessing it was the empty message
+2019-08-07 10:05:48 login i find it funny though, that tooter's username and host name are ben@tilde.team
+2019-08-07 10:05:49 ~ben !toot
+2019-08-07 10:05:49 <-- tooter (ben@tilde.team) has quit (Connection closed)
+2019-08-07 10:05:51 den1 sorry for jumping into conversation with some off-topic stuff
+2019-08-07 10:05:51 login again
+2019-08-07 10:05:55 --> tooter (mastodon tooter) (ben@tilde.team) has joined #meta
+2019-08-07 10:05:56 login no worries, den1
+2019-08-07 10:05:57 ~ben login: why is that funny
+2019-08-07 10:06:07 login because you have the same username and host name right?
+2019-08-07 10:06:10 ~ben no
+2019-08-07 10:06:28 login well, it sounds like tilde.team's ~ben account
+2019-08-07 10:06:41 login when it says ben@tilde.team in tooter's username
+2019-08-07 10:06:41 ~ben ya tooter is in a user unit
+2019-08-07 10:06:47 login ah, so that's why
+2019-08-07 10:06:51 ~ben i don't run my weechat on ~team
+2019-08-07 10:06:53 ~ben it's on my vps
+2019-08-07 10:07:08 login does tooter connect through weechat?
+2019-08-07 10:07:10 ~ben it's the proper ident response
+2019-08-07 10:07:12 ~ben no
+2019-08-07 10:07:22 login then why send username=ben, hostname = tilde.team?
+2019-08-07 10:07:22 ~ben https://tildegit.org/ben/tooter
+2019-08-07 10:07:24 BitBot [Title] ben/tooter: masto tooterbot - tooter - tildegit - https://ttm.sh/BA
+2019-08-07 10:07:31 ~ben login: because that's where it's connecting from
+2019-08-07 10:07:42 login also, does you connecting from your vps from work mean your vps is publicly accessible with the right key?
+2019-08-07 10:07:48 login (or a zero-day in sshd)
+2019-08-07 10:08:07 ~ben lol what
+2019-08-07 10:08:21 login also, when you connect from your vps to tilde.team, does that mean your vps is a tilde.chat node, or do you connect directly over ssl?
+2019-08-07 10:08:31 login also, do nodes on tilde.chat connect to other nodes over ssl?
+2019-08-07 10:08:38 ~ben gingko.tilde.chat is my vps
+2019-08-07 10:08:40 login does your vps have open ports?
+2019-08-07 10:08:49 login ah, so is gingko.tilde.chat a node?
+2019-08-07 10:08:54 ~ben 22, 80, 443, 6697
+2019-08-07 10:08:56 * jesopo nmaps b3n
+2019-08-07 10:08:58 login alrigt
+2019-08-07 10:09:00 jesopo can i nmap
+2019-08-07 10:09:03 ~ben uh sure
+2019-08-07 10:09:03 jesopo will be gentle
+2019-08-07 10:09:08 jesopo just want to confirm open ports :p
+2019-08-07 10:09:10 jesopo :o
+2019-08-07 10:09:14 ~ben 7776 too
+2019-08-07 10:09:22 login well, that just sounds lewd, trying every port to see which ones are open
+2019-08-07 10:09:28 jesopo people often forget things that are open
+2019-08-07 10:09:29 ~ben that's what nmap does
+2019-08-07 10:09:30 jesopo good to be like
+2019-08-07 10:09:33 jesopo hey u forgot dis
+2019-08-07 10:09:47 ~ben oh also 113 587 993 456 70 79
+2019-08-07 10:09:53 krowbar den1: i personally like orange
+2019-08-07 10:09:54 ~ben 4190
+2019-08-07 10:10:18 login if any of the services listening on any of those ports has a zero-day vulnerability that allows execution access
+2019-08-07 10:10:31 ~ben then that would be bad
+2019-08-07 10:10:33 login paired with a privilege escalation exploit
+2019-08-07 10:10:48 ~ben i have reasonable security settings
+2019-08-07 10:10:59 ~ben same as ~team and bsd.tilde.team
+2019-08-07 10:10:59 login then they could surreptitiously read your private key and therefore produce your ssl certificate and MITM your website
+2019-08-07 10:11:02 login or sshd
+2019-08-07 10:11:17 ~ben that could happen to any public-facing box
+2019-08-07 10:11:19 login (well, not sshd because it has public-key pinning)
+2019-08-07 10:11:29 login true, it could
+2019-08-07 10:11:33 krowbar den1: see if you get any inspiration from like https://www.canva.com/learn/website-color-schemes/
+2019-08-07 10:11:34 BitBot [Title] Website color schemes: 50 color palettes to inspire – Canva - https://ttm.sh/B_
+2019-08-07 10:11:48 ~ben there's nothing different enough about my vps to warrant that response
+2019-08-07 10:11:50 ~ben lol
+2019-08-07 10:12:12 login but 113, 587, 993, 456, 70, 79, i don't even know what services each of those port numbers support
+2019-08-07 10:12:23 jesopo thats a lot of ports
+2019-08-07 10:12:26 login true, but it could become a part of a botnet
+2019-08-07 10:12:28 ~ben login: grep /etc/services
+2019-08-07 10:12:30 login but you have strong logs right?
+2019-08-07 10:12:32 jesopo well
+2019-08-07 10:12:34 jesopo not a huge amount
+2019-08-07 10:12:46 login i didn't know there was an /etc/services
+2019-08-07 10:12:47 ~ben ident imap smtp gopher fingerd
+2019-08-07 10:12:55 ~tomasino gopher nom nom
+2019-08-07 10:13:03 ~ben 4190 is managesieved
+2019-08-07 10:13:09 login mangasieved?
+2019-08-07 10:13:15 krowbar sounds leaky
+2019-08-07 10:13:17 login what would managesieved do
+2019-08-07 10:13:22 ~ben ,ddg managesieved
+2019-08-07 10:13:22 BitBot [DDG] No results found
+2019-08-07 10:13:27 login haha yeah, leaky
+2019-08-07 10:13:31 login ,g managesieved
+2019-08-07 10:13:32 BitBot [Google] (managesieved) https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/+package/dovecot-managesieved
+2019-08-07 10:13:40 login ddg has got a lot to improve
+2019-08-07 10:13:41 ~ben that's the one
+2019-08-07 10:13:57 jesopo / b26
+2019-08-07 10:13:58 ~ben https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5804
+2019-08-07 10:13:59 jesopo oops
+2019-08-07 10:14:01 BitBot [Title] RFC 5804 - A Protocol for Remotely Managing Sieve Scripts - https://ttm.sh/Bj
+2019-08-07 10:14:16 login i didn't know what sieve was
+2019-08-07 10:14:26 login ,wiki sieve script
+2019-08-07 10:14:27 BitBot [Wikipedia] No results found
+2019-08-07 10:14:30 login ,g sieve script
+2019-08-07 10:14:31 BitBot [Google] (sieve script) http://sieve.info/examplescripts
+2019-08-07 10:14:38 login well, i wish bitbot would get snippets too
+2019-08-07 10:14:39 ~tomasino ,ddg sieve script
+2019-08-07 10:14:39 BitBot [DDG] No results found
+2019-08-07 10:14:45 ~ben login: see ~/.dovecot.sieve on ~team
+2019-08-07 10:14:55 login duckduckgo has a *long* *long* way to go
+2019-08-07 10:15:03 ~ben i set a default rule to move anything with the X-Spam yes header to spam
+2019-08-07 10:15:05 login i wonder how ddg is maintaining profitability
+2019-08-07 10:15:21 login Why would any legitimate spam email ever send the X-Spam yes header?
+2019-08-07 10:15:35 ~ben it's set by my spam filter
+2019-08-07 10:16:05 praetor can't seem to get my ass in gear
+2019-08-07 10:16:16 praetor oh. cuz I forgot to take my meds hehe
+2019-08-07 10:16:45 ~ben o i might've just blocked u jesopo
+2019-08-07 10:17:10 ~ben that might help :)
+2019-08-07 10:17:12 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-07 10:17:14 ~ben ,bef
+2019-08-07 10:17:14 BitBot [Ducks] ben befriended a duck in 3.71 seconds! You've befriended 119 ducks in #meta!
+2019-08-07 10:19:25 jesopo oops
+2019-08-07 10:19:47 --> Wallet [Wallet] (realname) (~Wallet@one.dime) has joined #meta
+2019-08-07 10:19:59 ~ben saw a bunch of stuff in logs and ufw denied
+2019-08-07 10:20:02 jesopo https://pastebin.com/raw/KBWewRi7
+2019-08-07 10:20:05 ~ben then i dig -x and saw u
+2019-08-07 10:20:10 jesopo 10m expire paste
+2019-08-07 10:20:19 jesopo u saw lolnerd.net pushin packets at u
+2019-08-07 10:20:33 ~ben ya
+2019-08-07 10:20:38 ~ben ok that's what i expected
+2019-08-07 10:21:00 jesopo gud
+2019-08-07 10:22:13 ~tomasino ,hug
+2019-08-07 10:22:13 BitBot [Ducks] tomasino: There was no duck!
+2019-08-07 10:22:16 ~tomasino so close
+2019-08-07 10:22:31 ~ben 4242 i know why i had it but i don't need it anymore
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+2019-08-07 10:22:43 -- Mode #meta [+qoqo ben ben khuxkm|mc khuxkm|mc] by gingko.tilde.chat
+2019-08-07 10:22:51 den1 hey
+2019-08-07 10:22:56 den1 just improved design http://18.194.196.137/
+2019-08-07 10:22:56 ~tomasino hey den1
+2019-08-07 10:22:58 BitBot [Title] ~site - https://ttm.sh/Bp
+2019-08-07 10:23:00 ~ben was it just me that split
+2019-08-07 10:23:03 den1 waiting for recommendations
+2019-08-07 10:23:25 ~tomasino oh, making a new tilde?
+2019-08-07 10:23:27 ~tomasino sweet
+2019-08-07 10:23:31 den1 (note: ~site is currently just a placeholder)
+2019-08-07 10:23:37 den1 yes making a new tilde and thx :)
+2019-08-07 10:23:53 ~tomasino can't have too many homes for folks on the interwebz
+2019-08-07 10:24:07 den1 it's a bit inspired from ~black
+2019-08-07 10:24:12 den1 about privacy stuff
+2019-08-07 10:24:14 den1 i will mention you
+2019-08-07 10:24:18 den1 if u want
+2019-08-07 10:25:14 snurryboy ,bef
+2019-08-07 10:25:15 BitBot [Ducks] snurryboy: There was no duck!
+2019-08-07 10:25:22 snurryboy fine i dont wanna be youre friend anyway
+2019-08-07 10:25:24 snurryboy ,bang
+2019-08-07 10:25:25 BitBot [Echo] ,bang has been moved to ,trap
+2019-08-07 10:25:31 snurryboy ,trapbang
+2019-08-07 10:30:26 ~tomasino nice!
+2019-08-07 10:30:37 * tomasino is a fan of themes in tildes
+2019-08-07 10:30:53 ~tomasino i think it gives people more information on which "home" to choose
+2019-08-07 10:33:14 praetor theme tildes are cool
+2019-08-07 10:35:39 ~ubergeek themed ones are fun
+2019-08-07 10:37:58 ~tomasino we have some good pillars of general-purpose with tilde.team and tilde.town and yourtilde.com and so on. We have a few that are specific to certain OSes, which is nice. I like #pink and #red and #aussies how they're targeting more finely
+2019-08-07 10:38:03 ~tomasino it's lovely
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+2019-08-07 10:40:19 ~ubergeek I dunno if I'd call town a general purpose tilde, mainly because it seems (to me) to have an artistic focus
+2019-08-07 10:40:34 ~ubergeek art being widely defined
+2019-08-07 10:40:59 ~ubergeek but I get what you mean
+2019-08-07 10:41:48 ~ben town is more isolated too
+2019-08-07 10:42:01 ~tomasino true true
+2019-08-07 10:42:11 ~ben little island nation
+2019-08-07 10:43:46 ~ubergeek but yeah, the GP tildes make good places to call "home" in lieu of a personal VPS, and connecting to themed/specialized tildes from there is a good strategy
+2019-08-07 10:44:00 ~ben :)
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+2019-08-07 12:11:15 vantablack fosslinux: ping me on irc sometime and i'll give it to you! if you want :D
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+2019-08-07 12:55:05 clarjon1 hehehe
+2019-08-07 12:55:07 clarjon1 https://consequenceofsound.net/2019/08/jack-black-jack-white-new-tenacious-d-song/
+2019-08-07 12:55:09 BitBot [Title] Jack Black and Jack White Finally Recorded a Song Together | Consequence of Sound - https://ttm.sh/Bc
+2019-08-07 13:14:22 krowbar clarjon1: you mean that total unit of a youtube video game streamer?!?
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+2019-08-07 13:25:54 ~ben black n white
+2019-08-07 13:25:56 ~ben nice
+2019-08-07 13:30:47 clarjon1 hehe
+2019-08-07 13:37:36 threv i didn't even notice that
+2019-08-07 13:37:37 threv nice
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+2019-08-07 13:46:10 krowbar hey ben i'm interested on your take on this article https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/06/dining/butchers-meat-vegetarian-vegan.html !Care! images of meat and partial animal carcases
+2019-08-07 13:46:11 BitBot [Title] The Vegetarians Who Turned Into Butchers - The New York Times - https://ttm.sh/BZ
+2019-08-07 13:53:54 ~ben will have to read later but I don't have a problem with people trying to make the meat industry have less negative impact
+2019-08-07 13:55:29 krowbar that was the basic gist of the people interviewed. they ran all grass-fed, pasture raised, etc ethical butcheries with the intent of taking money _away_ from the animal-as-a-commodity BIG farm business
+2019-08-07 13:57:12 krowbar (but despite any of that, i still respect your [and anybody else's) choice of "I just don't want to")
+2019-08-07 13:57:55 ~ben yeah i'm not interested in eating meat nor am i interested in policing other people's diets
+2019-08-07 13:58:12 krowbar although there were several health claims made in the article that... could probably be followed up with additional research (by me or you or somebody)
+2019-08-07 13:58:12 ~ben glad to see them reducing the environmental harm of meat
+2019-08-07 13:58:25 ~ben or trying to
+2019-08-07 14:00:54 ~ubergeek I'm not sure if I could eat Princess Beyonce now (One of my egg layers)
+2019-08-07 14:01:34 ~ben you don't to
+2019-08-07 14:01:37 ~ben no one's making you
+2019-08-07 14:02:01 ~ubergeek Nah, I get that. I mean, even after she passes from old age.
+2019-08-07 14:02:26 ~ubergeek Main reason I've got no problem being a vegetarian, as long as I can eat cheese and eggs.
+2019-08-07 14:02:30 ~ubergeek (And milk)
+2019-08-07 14:02:42 ~ben eggs and cheese are great
+2019-08-07 14:03:13 ~ubergeek It's tough (And expensive) to get cheese, and milk from non-factory farms, though
+2019-08-07 14:03:31 ~ubergeek It'd be a lot better if there were more farm subsidies going to non-factory farmer to meet health compliance
+2019-08-07 14:03:33 ~ben ya
+2019-08-07 14:03:40 ~ben fsho
+2019-08-07 14:03:46 ~ben policy change would have a huge imapce
+2019-08-07 14:03:48 ~ben impact
+2019-08-07 14:04:00 ~ubergeek I mean, it's not cheap to pasteurize, and ya kinda have to unless you live on the farm with the milk you're drinking
+2019-08-07 14:04:16 ~ubergeek Which is why I'm looking for goats at some point in the future
+2019-08-07 14:05:06 ~ben i generally don't drink milk but yeah
+2019-08-07 14:05:55 ~ubergeek I *think* you can get goat hair without shearing them...
+2019-08-07 14:06:03 ~ubergeek So, it's even useful for clothing
+2019-08-07 14:06:51 ~ubergeek not sure about that, though
+2019-08-07 14:07:31 ~ubergeek But I guess using their hides after they die from old age isn't unethical?
+2019-08-07 14:07:38 * ubergeek cannot find an issue with it
+2019-08-07 14:08:27 handyc I am in favor of eating the rich
+2019-08-07 14:10:22 * ben raises hand
+2019-08-07 14:10:25 ~ben kinda
+2019-08-07 14:11:19 ~ubergeek I am not opposed to that... Might be too fatty, though, if they're Americans...
+2019-08-07 14:11:37 ~ubergeek kinda unethical to use goat hides post-death, or eating the rich?
+2019-08-07 14:12:14 ~khuxkm I mean, if it's unethical to use goat hides after the goat dies of natural causes, it's unethical to eat living humans
+2019-08-07 14:12:17 ~khuxkm :P
+2019-08-07 14:12:35 ~ubergeek I'm not opposed to eating humans for ethical reasons.
+2019-08-07 14:12:46 ~ubergeek Health reasons, though. Prion disease is real.
+2019-08-07 14:13:00 krowbar you mean wendigo disease?
+2019-08-07 14:13:06 ~ubergeek And humans are... nasty.
+2019-08-07 14:13:42 ~ubergeek nah krowbar. More like a variant of mad cow.
+2019-08-07 14:14:23 krowbar sounds like a wendigo to me
+2019-08-07 14:14:51 ~ubergeek Except isn't wendigo (specifically) mythical? I mean, unless it's mad cow in humans.
+2019-08-07 14:16:20 * ubergeek googles
+2019-08-07 14:16:51 krowbar perhaps, but stories often include canibalistic humans turning into wendigo
+2019-08-07 14:17:40 krowbar but who knows what the Algonquian saw out in the winter woods... /me waves hands
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+2019-08-07 14:49:51 theone wtf
+2019-08-07 14:50:20 theone good afternoon to everyone by the way
+2019-08-07 14:53:27 ~khuxkm the Drew Morris NCAA Football Extended Universe is moving along nicely
+2019-08-07 14:53:38 ~khuxkm NTE started the DVSU Dingos series today :P
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+2019-08-07 15:01:33 amcclure hi
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+2019-08-07 15:31:37 den1 hi
+2019-08-07 15:32:10 slipxy hi
+2019-08-07 15:33:07 den1 will get in plane now :)
+2019-08-07 15:33:33 den1 bye :D
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+2019-08-07 15:47:23 krowbar safe travels!
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+2019-08-07 16:09:08 tildebeast \o
+2019-08-07 16:09:14 ~aewens Hello tilde people. Do any of you have Uber, and if so have a referral code? I'm going to be getting the app here in a bit and figured I'd signup using someone's referral code here.
+2019-08-07 16:17:06 krowbar halloa tildebeast aewens
+2019-08-07 16:17:33 krowbar no, i've never used uber. they still give me a real slimy impression from the way they treat their customers and employees
+2019-08-07 16:17:46 ~aewens krowbar: Bonsoir
+2019-08-07 16:18:44 ~aewens And I am more getting it as a precaution. I am going to be taking a business flight into Chicago next month and wanted the app installed in case I needed to get somewhere separately from my co-workers
+2019-08-07 16:19:59 ~aewens Anyways, my impatients got the best of me and I installed it hoping to stop when it asks for a referral code. There was never a slot for one, so now I am just confused how their referral system works
+2019-08-07 16:20:00 krowbar i'm pretty sure that there are still taxis available in chicago
+2019-08-07 16:20:53 ~aewens I am a millenial, aren't we legally obligated to use Uber/Lyft over taxis in the world of apps? xD
+2019-08-07 16:21:38 krowbar so am i (although loathe to admit it), but i still (generally) value ethics from the companies that I do business with
+2019-08-07 16:22:52 ~aewens In all seriousness though, my choice here is more based on pragmatism. This will be my first time travelling without a car and I know how to demand things from my phone, not the logistics of getting a taxi in a big city.
+2019-08-07 16:22:53 tildebeast hey krowbar, all
+2019-08-07 16:23:43 krowbar aewens: yeah, that is understandable. i've only used a taxi before for getting to/from an airport. i think you just make rude hand gestures to them in the street?
+2019-08-07 16:24:18 ~aewens Though, my company is getting a rental car, so there's only a 0.1% chance I'll actually need to Uber anywhere. But those odds are high enough for me to download it ahead of time just-in-case.
+2019-08-07 16:24:19 krowbar or call them on the telephone. you can use that little booth that superman uses to change
+2019-08-07 16:24:53 krowbar that makes we wonder where the modern superman is supposed to change. a cellphone doesn't afford much privacy
+2019-08-07 16:25:10 ~aewens Sure, but then I need to either a) locate a free taxi or b) determine what the local taxis are and then find their phone and talk to a fleshy meat person over the phone, gross.
+2019-08-07 16:26:16 krowbar ewww
+2019-08-07 16:26:35 krowbar you can join #tel and talk to a tilde fleshbag instead
+2019-08-07 16:30:28 krowbar but that was enough for me today. l8r interweebs.
+2019-08-07 16:30:34 truth quack
+2019-08-07 16:30:40 tildebeast see you krowbar
+2019-08-07 16:31:29 truth hello meta
+2019-08-07 16:32:54 tildebeast hey truth
+2019-08-07 16:32:55 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-07 16:33:08 truth ,beg
+2019-08-07 16:33:08 BitBot [Echo] please oh please duck be mine
+2019-08-07 16:33:59 tildebeast what are you up to today, truth?
+2019-08-07 16:37:10 truth not much - listening to electronic music and thinking about coffee right now
+2019-08-07 16:38:02 truth I upgraded my raspbian installation and now tmux is complaining about xterm-256color :(
+2019-08-07 16:49:56 tildebeast cool
+2019-08-07 16:50:22 tildebeast i've been working on a tool that will forever change how we perceive movies :)
+2019-08-07 16:50:42 tildebeast kinda, anyway
+2019-08-07 16:51:18 tildebeast basically it takes a subtitle file and replaces the subtitles at random with those from other movies :D
+2019-08-07 16:51:29 ~fosslinux lol
+2019-08-07 16:51:57 tildebeast trying to think of a name for it
+2019-08-07 16:52:33 tildebeast wtfsub perhaps
+2019-08-07 16:55:05 truth haha
+2019-08-07 16:55:15 truth include subliminal messages too
+2019-08-07 16:55:19 tildebeast could do
+2019-08-07 16:55:43 tildebeast you can set subs to display for millisecond durations, so maybe ~20millisec would do that
+2019-08-07 16:56:01 tildebeast Vote Barney The Purple Dinosaur
+2019-08-07 16:56:43 tildebeast or other such useful public service messages
+2019-08-07 16:58:58 truth "JOIN A TILDE NOW"
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+2019-08-07 16:59:06 tildebeast Well yes, that of course
+2019-08-07 16:59:38 truth "trust your command line"
+2019-08-07 17:00:06 tildebeast Cover your pizza in pineapple
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+2019-08-07 17:01:50 truth "emacs is better than vim" followed by "vim is better than emacs" ;)
+2019-08-07 17:03:39 tildebeast hah
+2019-08-07 17:03:41 tildebeast excellent
+2019-08-07 17:03:53 tildebeast "ed is the standard Windows editor"
+2019-08-07 17:05:10 ~aewens As a sysadmin, I prefer vim since the defaults can get you going fast without any configuration and is available on more systems by default.
+2019-08-07 17:05:20 tildebeast i like vim too.
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+2019-08-07 17:05:51 tildebeast but this tool is not about spreading truth, it's about confusing the hell out of movie watchers, which is every bit as vital
+2019-08-07 17:07:34 truth ed is useful on really slow links
+2019-08-07 17:08:28 ~aewens Just read back through the backlog. As someone who religiously uses subtitles on everything I watch, how dare you
+2019-08-07 17:09:05 ~khuxkm|lounge imagine if it swapped a Frozone line with any other SLJ role
+2019-08-07 17:09:22 ~khuxkm|lounge Original subtitle: "Honey, where's my super suit?"
+2019-08-07 17:09:35 ~aewens In all seriousness though, the default subtitles are already wtfsubs on a lot of things. They don't sync up with what the actors are saying, they place the subs over the actor's faces, they can be re-worded versions of what they are actually saying (even for media made in the US)
+2019-08-07 17:09:38 ~khuxkm|lounge New subtitle: "I am sick and tired of these motherfucking snakes on this motherfucking plane"
+2019-08-07 17:11:12 ~aewens For those who care, Amazon Prime is by far the *worst* with their subtitles. They sometimes lag so far behind they are stuck showing the subs from the previous scene (and provide zero tools to fix this on the user side)
+2019-08-07 17:11:28 truth you could download a lot of subtitles and replace the original lines with ones that are just a bit similar (a couple of first words matching)
+2019-08-07 17:12:52 truth or append some random phrases like in bruce almighty "and my tiny little nipples went to france"
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+2019-08-07 17:53:47 nonlinear Thanks, ben!
+2019-08-07 18:09:36 den1 hi again
+2019-08-07 18:09:39 den1 just landed
+2019-08-07 18:09:47 den1 but low battery on laptop
+2019-08-07 18:09:49 den1 xd
+2019-08-07 18:10:14 den1 Kneezle were you able to buy domain?
+2019-08-07 18:11:54 ~Kneezle I just got back. It's been a long day. Do you have PayPal or something? It would be best if you had ownership of it
+2019-08-07 18:12:01 ~Kneezle I could send you the money if needed
+2019-08-07 18:12:23 ~Kneezle I'm checking now to see if I can buy it and give it to you
+2019-08-07 18:13:34 ~Kneezle Looks like I can transfer it to you
+2019-08-07 18:14:12 ~Kneezle Can you make a namecheap account?
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+2019-08-07 18:27:26 ~ahriman TIL that an urban sign meaning "goodbye" in the American south is highly insulting in Europe
+2019-08-07 18:27:45 ~ahriman the peace sign, turned inwards, but usually sideways across the chest
+2019-08-07 18:28:10 ~ahriman it basically means, "see you later, friend"
+2019-08-07 18:28:23 ~ahriman sometimes with the thumb extended as well
+2019-08-07 18:29:00 ~ahriman note to self: don't do that overseas
+2019-08-07 18:29:51 ~aewens ahriman: Saying "thank you" and "fuck you" are also very similar actions in ASL. Learned that one the hard way xD
+2019-08-07 18:30:04 ~ahriman HA
+2019-08-07 18:31:33 ~ahriman Isn't "fuck you" in ASL brushing the fingertips outward against the bottom of the chin?
+2019-08-07 18:31:45 ~aewens Yes, and "
+2019-08-07 18:32:10 ~aewens Yes, and "thank you" is placing your fingertips on your chin and extending them away from your face
+2019-08-07 18:32:30 ~ahriman oh dear
+2019-08-07 18:32:47 ~ahriman that sounds intentional
+2019-08-07 18:34:08 ~aewens Intentional or not, it sure got a laugh when I did that to a mute man working in retail by mistake
+2019-08-07 18:34:34 ~aewens By that I mean, I was the one working and he was a customer
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+2019-08-07 18:43:32 ~ahriman haha
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+2019-08-07 19:08:39 BitBot [RSS] tilde news: Newest Stories: NATIONAL CERTIFICATE IN KAZAKHSTAN IS CANCELED by southerntofu@users.tilde.news (southerntofu) - https://tsarka.org/post/national-certificate-cancelled
+2019-08-07 19:11:54 Fessus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIV-QdPEx-Q
+2019-08-07 19:11:55 BitBot [Youtube] Kazakhstan You Very Nice Place (02:00) uploaded by jcutts2, 1,315,450 views (18506↑↓894) https://youtu.be/dIV-QdPEx-Q
+2019-08-07 19:15:37 younix IS VERUH NAICE
+2019-08-07 19:16:50 younix ahriman: i read somewhere that the peace sign (originally "v for victory") means something different if your hand is facing outwards vs inwards
+2019-08-07 19:16:54 younix outwards is like, YOU VICTORY
+2019-08-07 19:16:59 younix inwards is ME VICTORY SUCK IT
+2019-08-07 19:18:14 ~ahriman younix: i wonder if that's why it's offensive elsewhere (as in not where I'm from, how I grew up using it)
+2019-08-07 19:20:15 younix i think it is
+2019-08-07 19:20:43 younix the peace sign doesn't have that inwards/outwards connotation
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+2019-08-07 19:53:20 younix coooool: https://github.com/artichoke/artichoke
+2019-08-07 19:53:22 BitBot [Title] GitHub - artichoke/artichoke: 💎 Artichoke is a Ruby made with Rust - https://ttm.sh/B3
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+2019-08-07 19:53:40 younix it may choke arti, but it won't choke ruby
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+2019-08-07 19:55:21 praetor perl + jquery = so delicious
+2019-08-07 19:58:45 younix ruby is like readable perl
+2019-08-07 19:58:53 younix with smalltalk objects
+2019-08-07 19:59:00 praetor except I'd have to port ruby to IRIX :c
+2019-08-07 19:59:12 younix does rust build for irix?
+2019-08-07 20:00:00 praetor no. rust doesn't build on any mips architectures
+2019-08-07 20:00:04 praetor I wish
+2019-08-07 20:04:49 younix :(
+2019-08-07 20:05:12 younix that's weird, sdf.org just went down
+2019-08-07 20:15:45 ~ahriman younix: not down for me, the site or irc
+2019-08-07 20:16:25 ~ahriman hey everyone younix got b&
+2019-08-07 20:16:37 * ahriman nelson ha-ha's
+2019-08-07 20:19:34 den1 https://torrentfreak.com/alien-level-tech-required-to-crack-new-vpn-encryption-setup-makers-say-130921/
+2019-08-07 20:19:35 BitBot [Title] Alien-Level Tech Required To Crack New VPN Encryption Setup, Makers Say - TorrentFreak - https://ttm.sh/BY
+2019-08-07 20:19:37 den1 you will laugh
+2019-08-07 20:19:43 den1 it is guaranteed
+2019-08-07 20:19:47 den1 and probably you already did
+2019-08-07 20:20:04 den1 lol weird sentence i know
+2019-08-07 20:46:44 younix ahriman: i think it was just the webserver.. it went back up shortly after i mentioend it
+2019-08-07 20:52:09 ~khuxkm 16
+2019-08-07 20:52:12 ~khuxkm fuck
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+2019-08-07 20:58:53 praetor I think I'm going to stay up all night and do some heavy work to the uucp network
+2019-08-07 20:59:34 praetor caffeine. check. smokes. check. music...check-ish, but if someone wants to get on tilderadio and play eye of the tiger, that would be cool :p
+2019-08-07 21:09:46 younix i have night train!
+2019-08-07 21:10:30 younix https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUtFZ-8Tb_A
+2019-08-07 21:10:32 BitBot [Youtube] Night Train - Lionel Hampton (03:10) uploaded by bluago, 5,574 views (27↑↓0) https://youtu.be/uUtFZ-8Tb_A
+2019-08-07 21:12:08 praetor night train :d
+2019-08-07 21:12:10 praetor :D
+2019-08-07 21:12:45 younix https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aVqXUHP0cA
+2019-08-07 21:12:45 BitBot [Youtube] Jimmy Nicol & The Shubdubs - Night Train - 1964 45rpm (02:07) uploaded by Sids60sSounds, 1,534 views (16↑↓3) https://youtu.be/_aVqXUHP0cA
+2019-08-07 21:13:32 younix https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Grmsyj0f_Es
+2019-08-07 21:13:34 BitBot [Youtube] Night Train (Remastered) (03:49) uploaded by Alvino Rey - Topic, 2,667 views (43↑↓8) https://youtu.be/Grmsyj0f_Es
+2019-08-07 21:13:36 praetor so the first thing I want to do is write a web hook for the gitea, so when people add or remove or change their node listing, it gets sent around the network via uucp.
+2019-08-07 21:13:46 robdrake Hello
+2019-08-07 21:14:32 younix couldn't git be used instead of uucp?
+2019-08-07 21:20:10 younix hi robdrake, how goes it this fine evening?
+2019-08-07 21:20:36 robdrake ok, made up for last night, slept all day
+2019-08-07 21:20:53 robdrake my minetest server has new players, joining it
+2019-08-07 21:21:22 younix what's the ip?
+2019-08-07 21:21:46 younix i guess i just need the name?
+2019-08-07 21:21:54 robdrake theasylum.team:30000
+2019-08-07 21:22:32 younix danke!
+2019-08-07 21:58:23 younix oh my god that is a painful interface: https://toobnix.org/videos/watch/85f9cf4e-950d-4a79-af56-1a27b4003ed0
+2019-08-07 21:58:25 BitBot [Title] Teletype Model 37 connected to an AT&T 3B2/1000-70 at 150 baud - toobnix - https://ttm.sh/BU
+2019-08-07 22:01:48 praetor well, this ain't good. I had to reboot the uucp server, and now it's not coming back up
+2019-08-07 22:01:57 praetor whats awful is it's a google vps
+2019-08-07 22:02:12 truth vviissiittoorr
+2019-08-07 22:02:19 younix llooll
+2019-08-07 22:03:12 truth imagine running vim on that ;)
+2019-08-07 22:06:10 younix i think you mean "ed", the standard editor
+2019-08-07 22:06:55 younix better than punch cards, i guess!
+2019-08-07 22:10:22 ~ben henlo frenlos
+2019-08-07 22:18:41 praetor hai ben
+2019-08-07 22:18:51 ~ben where‽
+2019-08-07 22:19:02 ~ben how r u praetor
+2019-08-07 22:19:13 praetor just spiffy. working on uucp stuffs
+2019-08-07 22:19:20 praetor put the uucp server on a beefier vps
+2019-08-07 22:19:26 ~ben ooo nice
+2019-08-07 22:19:32 praetor and doing git webhooks for provisioning
+2019-08-07 22:19:38 ~ben fance
+2019-08-07 22:19:40 npa handy.c's in that vid!!
+2019-08-07 22:19:41 praetor yus
+2019-08-07 22:19:49 ~ben holler if i need to do anything
+2019-08-07 22:19:57 praetor sounds good :)
+2019-08-07 22:20:54 ~ben npa: which vid
+2019-08-07 22:20:58 younix npa: what's handy.c do?
+2019-08-07 22:22:35 npa younix's vid
+2019-08-07 22:22:51 npa the user handy.c (on this channel, didn't want to ping him)
+2019-08-07 22:22:54 ~ben oooo
+2019-08-07 22:25:46 ~ahriman npa: you saw handy too? haha
+2019-08-07 22:26:21 ~ahriman i was showing my dad and saw his nick, said i talk to that guy sometimes (then had to explain that this is a small world)
+2019-08-07 22:26:51 ~ben smol werld
+2019-08-07 22:27:47 ~ahriman he told me in the 80s, the diesel shop he worked at had a similar teletype on 300 baud that could print right-to-left as well as ltr
+2019-08-07 22:27:57 ~ben ooo nce'
+2019-08-07 22:28:44 praetor what video?
+2019-08-07 22:29:20 ~ahriman praetor: https://toobnix.org/videos/watch/85f9cf4e-950d-4a79-af56-1a27b4003ed0
+2019-08-07 22:29:23 BitBot [Title] Teletype Model 37 connected to an AT&T 3B2/1000-70 at 150 baud - toobnix - https://ttm.sh/BU
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+2019-08-07 22:29:28 ~ahriman something smj put up
+2019-08-07 22:29:42 ~ahriman dialing into sdf on an old teletype
+2019-08-07 22:29:47 ~ahriman to use commode
+2019-08-07 22:30:21 * ahriman always giggles when i read 'commode' because it means 'toilet' in the south
+2019-08-07 22:30:45 ~ben commode means toilet most places ahriman
+2019-08-07 22:30:48 ~ben ;)
+2019-08-07 22:30:56 ~ahriman i haven't been most places tho
+2019-08-07 22:31:07 ~ben o
+2019-08-07 22:31:08 ~ahriman best not to assume i think
+2019-08-07 22:31:11 ~ben me neither i guess
+2019-08-07 22:31:11 ~ahriman ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
+2019-08-07 22:31:21 ~ben u back home now ahriman ?
+2019-08-07 22:31:24 ~ahriman yeah
+2019-08-07 22:31:31 ~ben hope ur interview went well!!1
+2019-08-07 22:31:36 ~ahriman thanks
+2019-08-07 22:31:56 ~ahriman i didn't get the job tho
+2019-08-07 22:31:57 kj8am it is because you dump into flush it and dumup out oif it
+2019-08-07 22:32:21 ~ben oh no!
+2019-08-07 22:32:54 ~ben ahriman: if you'd be interested in michigan i can probably get u a job here
+2019-08-07 22:33:31 ~ahriman im interested in anywhere that will pay me xD
+2019-08-07 22:34:11 ~ahriman location isn't an issue for me, i'll go anywhere
+2019-08-07 22:34:32 ~ahriman except maybe Damascus or something. That doesn't seem like a good idea rn
+2019-08-07 22:35:14 ~ben oooo
+2019-08-07 22:35:23 ~ben there are like 50 positions open rn
+2019-08-07 22:35:37 ~ben am trying to get on a good team rn
+2019-08-07 22:37:02 praetor I needs job, but I need remote position
+2019-08-07 22:37:13 ~ben ooo
+2019-08-07 22:45:43 npa hire me too ben
+2019-08-07 22:45:46 npa we can be the tilde team
+2019-08-07 22:45:47 ~ben lol ok
+2019-08-07 22:45:53 ~ben u can be my roommate too
+2019-08-07 22:47:08 younix what does your company do?
+2019-08-07 22:48:02 ~ben insurance
+2019-08-07 22:48:25 --> southerntofu (southerntofu) (southerntof@thunix.net) has joined #meta
+2019-08-07 22:49:05 younix ahh... just general insurance?
+2019-08-07 22:49:28 ~ben nah
+2019-08-07 22:49:31 ~ben classic cars
+2019-08-07 22:49:44 younix ahh... very specialized insurance!
+2019-08-07 22:49:46 ~ben it's pretty specific
+2019-08-07 22:49:48 ~ben mhm
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+2019-08-07 22:54:51 -- younix is now known as ___younix___
+2019-08-07 22:55:19 ~ahriman tildeverse will be opening a neighborhood pub soon
+2019-08-07 22:56:17 ~ahriman cheap whiskey and expensive pickle juice
+2019-08-07 22:57:27 npa you ever had pickle beer?
+2019-08-07 22:57:34 ___younix___ mmm.. briney
+2019-08-07 22:57:42 ~ahriman no. no, i haven't.
+2019-08-07 22:58:38 ~ahriman have you had a whiskey pickelback?
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+2019-08-07 22:58:57 ~ahriman pickleback. i swear to lillith that wasn't a freudian nickelback slip.
+2019-08-07 22:59:16 npa i have not have a pickleback, i know what they are though
+2019-08-07 22:59:22 npa picklebeer is pretty decent
+2019-08-07 22:59:32 npa it's just beer brewed with pickles in the first stage i think
+2019-08-07 22:59:46 npa they don't add brine to it i think, idk, i'd have to ask my mate
+2019-08-07 22:59:55 ~ben tildeverse.pub
+2019-08-07 23:01:19 ~ahriman npa: that sounds like something i'd try. or, more likely, i'd go to my old neighborhood pub, order a harp and a shot of pickle juice, stare at it for a second, and dump the pickle juice in. that's probably would i'd do.
+2019-08-07 23:02:05 -- ___younix___ is now known as younix
+2019-08-07 23:03:07 younix nite!
+2019-08-07 23:03:13 ~ahriman night younix
+2019-08-07 23:03:43 ~ben hehe
+2019-08-07 23:17:59 npa night younix
+2019-08-07 23:18:43 npa is a harp a beer ahriman
+2019-08-07 23:19:12 ~ahriman npa harp is a beer
+2019-08-07 23:19:34 npa i see
+2019-08-07 23:19:51 ~ben a harp is an instrument
+2019-08-07 23:20:04 ~ahriman no that's a flickystring
+2019-08-07 23:20:34 npa harp is also a word
+2019-08-07 23:20:44 npa it's not mutually exclusive benny boi
+2019-08-07 23:21:10 npa oh, misread you to say "no, a harp is an instrument"
+2019-08-07 23:21:16 npa now i look like a silly goose
+2019-08-07 23:21:20 ~ahriman lel
+2019-08-07 23:21:30 ~ben :')
+2019-08-07 23:21:39 ~ben "it's a flickystring"
+2019-08-07 23:21:48 ~ahriman you gonna migrate for the winter npa?
+2019-08-07 23:22:12 ~ben do you like skiing npa
+2019-08-07 23:22:59 ~ahriman idk, can geese ski?
+2019-08-07 23:23:44 ~ben lol
+2019-08-07 23:23:47 ~ben probably
+2019-08-07 23:23:49 ~ben why not
+2019-08-07 23:24:07 ~ahriman how do they pay for the equipment
+2019-08-07 23:24:19 ~ben with $$$$$$$$$$$
+2019-08-07 23:24:27 ~ben as any other being would
+2019-08-07 23:24:33 ~ahriman you're supposed to say with bills
+2019-08-07 23:25:00 ~ben lol
+2019-08-07 23:25:02 * ahriman excuses himself
+2019-08-07 23:25:05 ~ben my bad
+2019-08-07 23:26:10 * ahriman scribbles in joke book ... "How do geese pay for ski equipment? They just add it to their bill"
+2019-08-07 23:26:18 ~ben lmao
+2019-08-07 23:28:35 ~ahriman i seriously used to have a joke book because my ex, for some reason, would laugh uncontrollably with deadpan humor
+2019-08-07 23:28:57 ~ahriman i like it but damn she would like hyperventilate
+2019-08-07 23:29:45 ~fosslinux uh
+2019-08-07 23:29:47 ~fosslinux uh
+2019-08-07 23:29:49 ~ben classic
+2019-08-07 23:29:49 ~fosslinux ok
+2019-08-07 23:29:55 ~ben henlo fossy
+2019-08-07 23:30:19 ~ahriman lol fosslinux is deadpan not your cup of tea
+2019-08-07 23:30:30 * ben dead pan
+2019-08-07 23:30:32 ~ahriman i mean cup of vegemite
+2019-08-07 23:30:45 ~ahriman ba-dum-tsh
+2019-08-07 23:31:10 ~ben heheje'
+2019-08-07 23:31:44 ~fosslinux Lhello ben ahriman
+2019-08-07 23:31:57 ~ben heheje'lhello
+2019-08-07 23:34:03 kj8am Bonsoir!
+2019-08-07 23:34:13 ~ahriman hi kj8am
+2019-08-07 23:34:46 ~fosslinux sup ben
+2019-08-07 23:34:58 ~ahriman how goes it fossy
+2019-08-07 23:35:12 ~fosslinux sup ahriman
+2019-08-07 23:35:19 ~fosslinux it's just lunch rn
+2019-08-07 23:36:16 ~ahriman gichyo hawngry on
+2019-08-07 23:36:19 ~ben henlo fosst
+2019-08-07 23:36:27 ~ben bonne soire
+2019-08-07 23:48:53 npa the british drink some weird vegemite drink
+2019-08-07 23:48:59 npa never been skiing ben
+2019-08-07 23:49:10 npa we're not exactly renowned for our snow here
+2019-08-07 23:49:37 npa bovril, that's it
+2019-08-07 23:49:39 ~ahriman can you take skis on sand dunes?
+2019-08-07 23:49:56 ~ahriman or is that too soft
+2019-08-07 23:50:05 npa you can snowboard on em i know
+2019-08-07 23:50:11 npa skiing must just be boring
+2019-08-07 23:50:15 npa might*
+2019-08-07 23:50:27 ~ahriman ah right
+2019-08-07 23:50:53 ~ahriman in atlanta when it would ice over, we'd use old skateboard decks tied to our feet to iceboard down hills
+2019-08-07 23:51:03 ~ahriman usually resulted in many injuries
+2019-08-07 23:52:46 npa sounds fun as fuck
+2019-08-07 23:52:54 ~ahriman it is
+2019-08-07 23:53:03 ~ahriman you'll bleed and you'll love it
+2019-08-07 23:53:08 ~ahriman (ice hurts)
+2019-08-07 23:53:35 ~ahriman humans are weird i guess
+2019-08-07 23:53:49 npa wear some motorcycle garb
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+2019-08-08 00:08:27 ~ahriman mental image of doing that in weighted jeans and a leather jacket
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+2019-08-08 00:17:58 ~ben never been skiing!?
+2019-08-08 00:18:00 ~ben damn
+2019-08-08 01:15:04 ~ahriman what's everyone working on
+2019-08-08 01:15:10 ~ahriman i have no inspiration rn
+2019-08-08 01:22:34 npa learnig react
+2019-08-08 01:26:50 <-- frigginglorious1 (~Thunderbir@rrcs-24-206-45-122.midsouth.biz.rr.com) has quit (Connection closed)
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+2019-08-08 02:03:36 hijackeel hi
+2019-08-08 02:03:44 npa hey
+2019-08-08 02:06:24 hijackeel I am trying to buy a multimeter, and there is a discount if I pay in cryptocurrency, which I don't have. Do you know about teh 817c01nz npa?
+2019-08-08 02:07:27 hijackeel It lists USD.bitstamp as an option. I am wondering if that means I can make a bitstamp account, transfer USD to it, and just pay directly with that? idk.
+2019-08-08 02:07:46 npa it might be bitstamp has some kind of tether coin to USD
+2019-08-08 02:08:04 npa but yes, that 's what it sounds like
+2019-08-08 02:08:12 npa making an acct at bitstamp is a bit annoying
+2019-08-08 02:08:19 npa you have to have your documents verified
+2019-08-08 02:09:18 hijackeel what exchange do you normally use? I might get some extra... during the next crash :P
+2019-08-08 02:13:53 hijackeel oh hm, I'm at the verification step. how long does that take npa?
+2019-08-08 02:14:10 npa i used an australian one back in the day
+2019-08-08 02:14:34 npa as that's where i'm from, and it's usually best to go to one in your currency so you don't get hit with forex rates
+2019-08-08 02:14:42 npa dunno, depends
+2019-08-08 02:14:53 npa maybe a couple of hours, maybe a couple of days
+2019-08-08 02:35:08 hijackeel what are you up to npa?
+2019-08-08 02:36:00 npa going through codeacademy to learn react (my god it is slow)
+2019-08-08 02:36:02 ~ahriman hi jackeel
+2019-08-08 02:36:38 npa i wanna find some nice looking CSS that i can use for demo projects
+2019-08-08 02:36:46 npa something nice and clean, but a bit shiny
+2019-08-08 02:39:38 hijackeel npa: ah, I learned Python on codecademy back in the day. I did their C++ recently and remember nothing though.
+2019-08-08 02:39:40 hijackeel sup ahriman
+2019-08-08 02:39:50 ~ahriman nada
+2019-08-08 02:40:06 ~ahriman there's supposed to be a really good c++ book coming out from no starch soon
+2019-08-08 02:40:18 hijackeel i saw that!
+2019-08-08 02:40:29 hijackeel i have a love/hate relationship with no starch
+2019-08-08 02:40:32 hijackeel their books are awesome
+2019-08-08 02:40:53 ~ahriman https://nostarch.com/cppcrashcourse
+2019-08-08 02:40:55 BitBot [Title] C++ Crash Course | No Starch Press - https://ttm.sh/Bk
+2019-08-08 02:41:03 ~ahriman oh ya i love no starch
+2019-08-08 02:41:07 hijackeel but I applied to work for them once and never heard back. and then i did some research on glass door or whatever and found out they pay terribly and their boss has anger issues. bullet dodged.
+2019-08-08 02:41:18 ~ahriman oof
+2019-08-08 02:41:40 ~ahriman >> crash course >> 792pp
+2019-08-08 02:41:47 hijackeel later i applied to do some freelance work for them and did hear back, but their rates were too low.
+2019-08-08 02:42:05 hijackeel whenever they have a humblebundle I buy it though
+2019-08-08 02:42:17 npa c++ is a monstrous language, that's why it's 800 pages
+2019-08-08 02:42:17 hijackeel and set it to donate all the money to charity :P
+2019-08-08 02:42:42 ~ahriman lol so i hear npa
+2019-08-08 02:42:49 npa i do love it though
+2019-08-08 02:43:19 npa hopefully the modules are done well in c++20
+2019-08-08 02:43:50 ~ahriman oh it looks like the early access ebook has literally all the content
+2019-08-08 02:44:33 hijackeel oh nice, i don't think it did not too long ago
+2019-08-08 02:44:51 hijackeel for $48 though I think I'll wait a year until it shows up in a humblebundle
+2019-08-08 02:49:32 hijackeel ahriman: my job is going to be sending me to virginia multiple times for 2-week shifts starting in september. not happy. :(
+2019-08-08 02:49:45 ~ahriman what part?
+2019-08-08 02:50:17 hijackeel idk lemme google map it
+2019-08-08 02:50:33 ~ahriman i just saw the current humble book bundle. it's all pakt books. :(
+2019-08-08 02:50:46 ~ahriman packt are trash mostly. a few gems, but mostly trash
+2019-08-08 02:50:54 hijackeel Norfolk
+2019-08-08 02:50:59 ~ahriman OH SHIT
+2019-08-08 02:51:12 ~ahriman i lived in virginia beach until two weeks ago
+2019-08-08 02:51:17 ~ahriman we could have grabbed a beer
+2019-08-08 02:51:26 npa how tf do you guys have the patience to read tech books
+2019-08-08 02:51:29 hijackeel is that close?
+2019-08-08 02:51:51 ~ahriman they have no green separation, cross a street and you're in the other city basically
+2019-08-08 02:52:19 hijackeel i actually used to go to virginia in the summer to see my grandparents. i'll probably try and drop by the little town where they used to live on my way from the airport.
+2019-08-08 02:52:26 hijackeel so nothing against virginia.
+2019-08-08 02:52:30 hijackeel just 2 weeks in a hotel room.
+2019-08-08 02:52:30 ~ahriman be very careful on the highway in norfolk
+2019-08-08 02:52:53 ~ahriman a lot of toll roads that don't look it, you just get a $15 bill in the mail
+2019-08-08 02:53:00 ~ahriman they scan the plate
+2019-08-08 02:53:18 ~ahriman it's all passive
+2019-08-08 02:53:52 hijackeel the golden gate bridge is like that, it sucks.
+2019-08-08 02:54:00 ~ahriman also don't get on any of the bridge-tunnels between 3 and 6PM. they go between the 7 cities (they all mash together)
+2019-08-08 02:54:09 ~ahriman bad traffic on the bridge-tunnels
+2019-08-08 02:54:14 ~tomasino ,hug
+2019-08-08 02:54:15 BitBot [Ducks] tomasino befriended a duck in 37279.42 seconds! You've befriended 14 ducks in #meta!
+2019-08-08 02:54:23 ~ahriman holy shit tomasino
+2019-08-08 02:54:24 hijackeel i think the only driving i will be doing is between norfolk and the airport
+2019-08-08 02:54:44 ~ahriman oh the airport is in norfolk so you won't need the highways then
+2019-08-08 02:54:57 hijackeel oh i thought it was in richmond
+2019-08-08 02:55:15 ~tomasino 10 hours? Did I just see that?
+2019-08-08 02:55:27 ~ahriman there's norfolk int'l, unless they're flying you to richmond for some weird reason, which is 2 hours away
+2019-08-08 02:55:52 hijackeel i didn't know anywhere else in virginia was big enough to have an airport XD
+2019-08-08 02:56:08 hijackeel yeah they might fly me some weird way, idk.
+2019-08-08 02:56:16 npa 10 HOURS!
+2019-08-08 02:56:19 ~ahriman lol yeah norfolk has an airport. it's small. but hampton roads (the 7 cities) is well populated.
+2019-08-08 02:56:23 npa no wonder i have't seen ducks in a while
+2019-08-08 02:57:37 ~ahriman also you'll have trouble sleeping with the F18s screaming by but you get used to it. Bunch of naval bases, and oceana naval air base, which flies f18s every day over the area
+2019-08-08 02:57:51 npa f18s!!, that's sick
+2019-08-08 02:58:04 ~ahriman i met an f18 pilot once. she was h0t
+2019-08-08 02:58:21 npa hotter than the napalm war crimes committed in 'nam
+2019-08-08 02:58:30 ~ahriman much hotter
+2019-08-08 02:58:39 ~ahriman like, she could waterboard me any time
+2019-08-08 02:58:44 npa lmao
+2019-08-08 02:59:44 hijackeel i live/work near an air base but it's pretty quiet.
+2019-08-08 03:00:11 ~ahriman oceana isn't quiet xD my house was right next to it, the jets shook the house
+2019-08-08 03:01:09 Fessus I was in the keys last summer, got to see all sorts of jets operating out of the key west naval station
+2019-08-08 03:01:29 ~ahriman but oceana NAS is in virginia beach so you may be saved by the slight distance into norfolk, idk if they fly into norfolk or stay by the beaches
+2019-08-08 03:01:36 ~tomasino https://quotes.tilde.chat/quote/165
+2019-08-08 03:01:38 BitBot [Title] ~chat IRC quote database - quote 165 - https://ttm.sh/B8
+2019-08-08 03:01:52 ~tomasino Did it on my phone, cause bed
+2019-08-08 03:01:54 ~ahriman haha!
+2019-08-08 03:01:59 Fessus The F35s were really loud for single engine fighters
+2019-08-08 03:03:56 ~ahriman :'( https://quotes.tilde.chat/quote/158
+2019-08-08 03:03:58 BitBot [Title] ~chat IRC quote database - quote 158 - https://ttm.sh/B7
+2019-08-08 03:04:11 ~ahriman apparently someone doesn't like me lol
+2019-08-08 03:05:15 npa lol
+2019-08-08 03:06:05 ~ahriman it's the god damn nebraskans. we've been at war with them for centuries.
+2019-08-08 03:06:28 hijackeel i see these giant gray cargo planes near here mostly, that and helicopters, and the WWII bombers that come to town once a year.
+2019-08-08 03:07:39 hijackeel i did see some ospreys and air force one, etc when obama came to town
+2019-08-08 03:07:46 ~tomasino ,hug
+2019-08-08 03:07:47 BitBot [Ducks] tomasino: There was no duck!
+2019-08-08 03:07:52 hijackeel ,quack
+2019-08-08 03:07:53 ~tomasino ,w
+2019-08-08 03:07:54 BitBot [Weather|tomasino] (Iceland) 6C/43F | Clear Sky | Humidity: 70% | Wind: 25.9KMh/16.1MPh
+2019-08-08 03:07:59 Fessus tiltrotors are neat
+2019-08-08 03:08:00 ~tomasino That's what I meant
+2019-08-08 03:08:05 npa ,w
+2019-08-08 03:08:05 BitBot [Weather|npa] (New South Wales, Australia) 13C/56F | Clear Sky | Humidity: 41% | Wind: 50.0KMh/31.1MPh
+2019-08-08 03:08:15 ~tomasino It's a bit nippy this morning
+2019-08-08 03:08:49 npa > We are committed to our customers and support is at up most priority.
+2019-08-08 03:08:51 hijackeel i went to nebraska once.
+2019-08-08 03:08:54 npa bone apple tea everyone
+2019-08-08 03:09:53 ~ahriman tomasino: s/nippy/nipply
+2019-08-08 03:09:53 timemachine It's a bit nipply this morning
+2019-08-08 03:13:35 ~tomasino Ahhh, I have an amazingly warm wool blanket over me now
+2019-08-08 03:14:25 hijackeel they must be these https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_C-5_Galaxy
+2019-08-08 03:14:27 BitBot [Title] Lockheed C-5 Galaxy - Wikipedia - https://ttm.sh/BJ
+2019-08-08 03:15:44 hijackeel or maybe it's a globemaster?
+2019-08-08 03:15:47 hijackeel idk much about planes.
+2019-08-08 03:15:54 hijackeel they're big and grey. :P
+2019-08-08 03:45:49 robdrake Hello #meta
+2019-08-08 03:50:03 hijackeel yo
+2019-08-08 03:50:41 robdrake How is everything hijackeel
+2019-08-08 03:51:55 hijackeel alright, you?
+2019-08-08 03:55:25 robdrake just have my nights and days turned around, but oh well
+2019-08-08 03:55:53 robdrake ,time
+2019-08-08 03:55:54 BitBot [Time] Time for robdrake: 2019/08/08 02:55:53
+2019-08-08 04:03:50 robdrake I think I'll try and get more sleep at night
+2019-08-08 04:03:54 robdrake later
+2019-08-08 04:08:32 den1 are there any good vundle alternative?
+2019-08-08 04:09:57 hijackeel night
+2019-08-08 04:11:47 ryan den1: pathogen and managing Git repos yourself? That's what I do :I
+2019-08-08 04:17:24 den1 seems like good idea ryan
+2019-08-08 04:18:54 ~tomasino vundle? the vim bundler?
+2019-08-08 04:18:58 ~tomasino i use vim-plug
+2019-08-08 04:19:23 ~tomasino https://github.com/junegunn/vim-plug
+2019-08-08 04:19:25 BitBot [Title] GitHub - junegunn/vim-plug: Minimalist Vim Plugin Manager - https://ttm.sh/Bo
+2019-08-08 04:19:58 ~tomasino example in action: https://github.com/jamestomasino/dotfiles/blob/master/vim/.vimrc#L5-L40
+2019-08-08 04:20:00 BitBot [Title] dotfiles/.vimrc at master · jamestomasino/dotfiles · GitHub - https://ttm.sh/Br
+2019-08-08 04:22:40 ryan On one hand, I like that you use ALE
+2019-08-08 04:22:53 ryan On the other hand, I have a very strong preference to Pathogen
+2019-08-08 04:23:22 ~tomasino tim pope does good stuff
+2019-08-08 04:23:24 ryan I should go work on helping ALE more
+2019-08-08 04:23:42 ryan Oh by the way
+2019-08-08 04:23:46 ~tomasino junegunn also does amazing things, like FZF
+2019-08-08 04:23:53 ryan The ALE repo moved
+2019-08-08 04:24:10 ~tomasino https://github.com/jamestomasino/dotfiles/blob/master/neovim/init.vim
+2019-08-08 04:24:12 BitBot [Title] dotfiles/init.vim at master · jamestomasino/dotfiles · GitHub - https://ttm.sh/Bs
+2019-08-08 04:24:19 ryan It's now owned by dense-analysis
+2019-08-08 04:24:20 ~tomasino here's my real config. i'm pretty firmly in neovim now
+2019-08-08 04:24:44 ~tomasino ahha, i'll update my links
+2019-08-08 04:24:46 ~tomasino thanks
+2019-08-08 04:24:59 npa yeah i use pathogen too
+2019-08-08 04:25:08 npa i notice that it doesn't update though
+2019-08-08 04:25:10 ryan Oh I just realized, I was stuck on the Developers team
+2019-08-08 04:25:11 ryan Dank
+2019-08-08 04:25:18 hijackeel blah bitstamp doesn't let me use an american credit card, and charges 7% minimum on international bank transfers
+2019-08-08 04:25:21 hijackeel trying coinbase now.
+2019-08-08 04:25:27 ryan npa: I use Git submodules to auto update
+2019-08-08 04:25:47 npa ycm needs to rebuild the binary when you update it
+2019-08-08 04:25:52 npa so i'm not sure that's sufficient
+2019-08-08 04:25:57 npa i sppose you could do a git hook
+2019-08-08 04:26:00 ryan Solution
+2019-08-08 04:26:00 npa but cbf man
+2019-08-08 04:26:04 ryan Use ALE :3
+2019-08-08 04:26:19 npa ale?
+2019-08-08 04:26:21 ~tomasino vim plug can run post install & update scripts
+2019-08-08 04:26:30 ryan Asynchronous Linting Engine
+2019-08-08 04:26:54 ryan It also has built-in LSP support, post-write fixers, stuff like that
+2019-08-08 04:26:57 npa i use it for more than linting ryan
+2019-08-08 04:27:00 npa ycm, that is
+2019-08-08 04:27:02 ~tomasino ale is good, but doesn't replace YCM completely
+2019-08-08 04:27:07 npa ^
+2019-08-08 04:27:13 ryan What doesn't it do?
+2019-08-08 04:27:20 ~tomasino i have other language server/client stuff in place that does the rest
+2019-08-08 04:27:30 ~tomasino tag & languge inspection, go-to-definition, refactoring
+2019-08-08 04:27:37 ~tomasino things that are more than linting
+2019-08-08 04:27:43 ryan But it does do that?
+2019-08-08 04:27:53 den1 found a great .vimrc for mehttps://github.com/adilansari/dot_files/blob/master/vim/.vimrc
+2019-08-08 04:27:56 BitBot [Title] dot_files/.vimrc at master · adilansari/dot_files · GitHub - https://ttm.sh/B9
+2019-08-08 04:28:07 npa ycm does
+2019-08-08 04:28:11 ~tomasino ale has very weak go-to-definition stuff
+2019-08-08 04:28:12 ~tomasino and references
+2019-08-08 04:28:14 ryan As does ALE.
+2019-08-08 04:28:20 ryan It uses the LSP sources.
+2019-08-08 04:28:34 npa what's an LSP
+2019-08-08 04:28:46 ryan Language Server Protocol
+2019-08-08 04:29:13 npa i c
+2019-08-08 04:29:14 ryan It's a way to interact with a "server" in a standardized format
+2019-08-08 04:29:14 ~tomasino if you have the LSPs running too, yes
+2019-08-08 04:29:27 ryan Designed by Microsoft for VS Code and probably some other things
+2019-08-08 04:29:51 ~tomasino i run a few extras on my stuff
+2019-08-08 04:29:56 ryan tomasino: then it's a good thing ALE can both manage LSP sources, and has integrations with other plugins which can transfer sources
+2019-08-08 04:30:30 ~tomasino it is indeed. ale is great. It plays nicely with others
+2019-08-08 04:30:55 ~tomasino YCM was the king for a long time, but it's installation and updating were always cumbersome
+2019-08-08 04:30:55 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-08 04:30:57 ~tomasino ,bef
+2019-08-08 04:30:57 BitBot [Ducks] tomasino befriended a duck in 2.38 seconds! You've befriended 15 ducks in #meta!
+2019-08-08 04:32:07 ~tomasino i run a typescript langserver, bash, css and html
+2019-08-08 04:33:09 ~tomasino ,stats
+2019-08-08 04:33:09 BitBot [Stats] I currently have 22 networks, 109 channels and 2914 visible users
+2019-08-08 04:33:13 ~tomasino ,duckstats
+2019-08-08 04:33:14 BitBot [Ducks] tomasino has befriended 15 and trapped 0 ducks (15/0 in #meta)
+2019-08-08 04:35:21 ~tomasino npa: Plug 'Valloric/YouCompleteMe', { 'do': './install.py' }
+2019-08-08 04:35:27 ~tomasino if you want to use YCM still
+2019-08-08 04:51:51 --> kirk781 (realname) (~kirk781@203.110.242.17) has joined #meta
+2019-08-08 04:58:42 den1 are there any way to redirect domain to my tilde page without ssh tunneling using another webserver?
+2019-08-08 05:00:25 ~tomasino the naked domain or a subdomain?
+2019-08-08 05:00:33 den1 naked domain
+2019-08-08 05:00:54 den1 also it doesn't take much traffic so not a worry for tilde servers i guess
+2019-08-08 05:00:56 ~tomasino your tilde page on your new tilde or on team or something?
+2019-08-08 05:01:06 den1 on team
+2019-08-08 05:01:15 ~tomasino i think ben would have to handle it with a vhost then
+2019-08-08 05:01:29 den1 yes, it is not a good way
+2019-08-08 05:01:39 den1 because i guess he needs to edit all these records
+2019-08-08 05:01:43 den1 if he does it
+2019-08-08 05:01:47 ~tomasino he's better at DNS than I am, and may know some sneaky way around it though
+2019-08-08 05:01:48 den1 but not sure
+2019-08-08 05:01:52 kirk781 Hello
+2019-08-08 05:01:54 den1 hi
+2019-08-08 05:01:56 den1 kirk781
+2019-08-08 05:01:58 ~tomasino hiya kirk781
+2019-08-08 05:02:04 ~tomasino how's the weather? still hot?
+2019-08-08 05:02:07 ~tomasino ,w kirk781
+2019-08-08 05:02:08 BitBot [Weather|kirk781] (Kharagpur, West Bengal, India) 31C/88F | Light Rain | Humidity: 70% | Wind: 21.0KMh/13.1MPh
+2019-08-08 05:02:11 ~tomasino yep!
+2019-08-08 05:02:20 den1 ,w den
+2019-08-08 05:02:20 BitBot [Weather] den doesn't have a location set
+2019-08-08 05:02:22 den1 ,w den1
+2019-08-08 05:02:23 BitBot [Weather] den1 doesn't have a location set
+2019-08-08 05:02:28 den1 how do i set my location
+2019-08-08 05:02:43 ~tomasino i forget, but you can msg bitbot help and work through the menus
+2019-08-08 05:03:03 den1 yes thx
+2019-08-08 05:03:18 kirk781 tomasino, more humid than hot. Today is probably the first day in couple of weeks when it hasn't rained....till now
+2019-08-08 05:03:27 ~tomasino i think it's a combination of a few keywords, like "loc set blah" but i forget exactly
+2019-08-08 05:03:38 ~tomasino haha, that stinks
+2019-08-08 05:03:43 ~tomasino it's quite cool here and windy today
+2019-08-08 05:03:49 ~tomasino more of a typical icelandic day
+2019-08-08 05:03:52 kirk781 ,w tomasino
+2019-08-08 05:03:52 den1 ,w tomasino
+2019-08-08 05:03:53 BitBot [Weather|tomasino] (Iceland) 9C/48F | Clear Sky | Humidity: 70% | Wind: 33.5KMh/20.8MPh
+2019-08-08 05:03:53 BitBot [Weather|tomasino] (Iceland) 9C/48F | Clear Sky | Humidity: 70% | Wind: 33.5KMh/20.8MPh
+2019-08-08 05:03:57 den1 you still in iceland
+2019-08-08 05:04:00 den1 reading your blog
+2019-08-08 05:04:00 kirk781 Ooh, that's cool
+2019-08-08 05:04:02 den1 xd
+2019-08-08 05:04:07 ~tomasino yep yep
+2019-08-08 05:04:07 ryan i think it tells you if you just do ,w
+2019-08-08 05:04:07 kirk781 tomasino has a blog?
+2019-08-08 05:04:10 ryan ,w
+2019-08-08 05:04:11 BitBot [Weather|ryan] (Wichita, Kansas, USA) 23C/73F | Light Rain | Humidity: 78% | Wind: 27.7KMh/17.2MPh
+2019-08-08 05:04:14 ryan oh i set it
+2019-08-08 05:04:16 ryan whoops
+2019-08-08 05:04:16 ~tomasino https://blog.tomasino.org
+2019-08-08 05:04:18 BitBot [Title] Tomasino Blog - https://ttm.sh/Bv
+2019-08-08 05:04:26 den1 cool blog
+2019-08-08 05:04:27 ~tomasino https://labs.tomasino.org - computery stuff
+2019-08-08 05:04:28 BitBot [Title] Tomasino Labs - https://ttm.sh/BN
+2019-08-08 05:04:40 ~tomasino gopher://gopher.black/phlog/ - my main man
+2019-08-08 05:04:41 den1 also congrulations about the double citizenship thing
+2019-08-08 05:04:46 ~tomasino thanks, den1
+2019-08-08 05:05:02 kirk781 tomasino, wow, you have been maintaining that blog for quite many years now
+2019-08-08 05:05:17 ~tomasino i've grabbed the text and moved it from platform to platform
+2019-08-08 05:05:25 ~tomasino i think the earliest posts on there were on livejournal
+2019-08-08 05:05:28 * kirk781 likes the simplistic UI of the website
+2019-08-08 05:05:39 den1 im really bad at writing blogs but im trying to improve myself by reading some stuff at lobsters
+2019-08-08 05:05:48 den1 lobsters is a great place
+2019-08-08 05:05:51 ~tomasino thanks! I made the blog.tomasino.org theme myself in hugo
+2019-08-08 05:05:53 den1 and maybe i can try to give a invite
+2019-08-08 05:06:08 den1 is it open-source tomasino
+2019-08-08 05:06:18 ~tomasino yeah, but it's bundled into my repo
+2019-08-08 05:06:20 ~tomasino one sec
+2019-08-08 05:06:34 ~tomasino https://github.com/jamestomasino/blog.tomasino.org
+2019-08-08 05:06:35 BitBot [Title] GitHub - jamestomasino/blog.tomasino.org: Tomasino Blog - https://ttm.sh/BH
+2019-08-08 05:06:38 ~tomasino it's in the /blank dir.
+2019-08-08 05:06:46 ~tomasino i started with the blank theme and modified to make my stuff
+2019-08-08 05:07:45 den1 hey you live in iceland and its probably a good idea to start your own vpn service
+2019-08-08 05:08:01 den1 isnt it?
+2019-08-08 05:08:16 den1 iceland have great privacy laws and some other stuff
+2019-08-08 05:09:18 ~tomasino :D
+2019-08-08 05:09:20 ~tomasino it does
+2019-08-08 05:09:27 ~tomasino i use expressvpn and the iceland endpoint a lot
+2019-08-08 05:10:29 den1 i know cryptostorm as iceland based service
+2019-08-08 05:10:34 den1 it is also good
+2019-08-08 05:10:48 kirk781 tomasino, saagwaala as in the green vegetable thing?
+2019-08-08 05:11:45 ~tomasino yeah
+2019-08-08 05:11:53 ~tomasino spinach based thingy thing
+2019-08-08 05:12:11 ~tomasino i used to use cryptostorm. they're excellent
+2019-08-08 05:12:18 ~tomasino i get better speeds out of expressvpn
+2019-08-08 05:12:30 kirk781 tomasino, I really dislike it :p. I once ordered a dish called Chicken Green only to find that the green texture was given by saag. I left it in the middle.
+2019-08-08 05:12:40 ~tomasino oh no!
+2019-08-08 05:12:41 * kirk781 loves naan though
+2019-08-08 05:12:47 den1 yes, thats because of security stuff i guess
+2019-08-08 05:12:54 ~tomasino well, i guess that's why there's such variety in the world of food
+2019-08-08 05:12:58 den1 cryptostorm provides better encryption (ECC etc.)
+2019-08-08 05:13:07 kirk781 Lamb is essentially a younger variant of mutton, right?
+2019-08-08 05:13:11 den1 and lowest they support is something like RSA-4096
+2019-08-08 05:13:34 ~tomasino technically, yes, kirk781
+2019-08-08 05:13:39 ~tomasino but lamb can refer to the meat at any age
+2019-08-08 05:13:43 ~tomasino mutton is specifically adult
+2019-08-08 05:14:01 ~tomasino hogget is juvenile lamb
+2019-08-08 05:14:55 ~tomasino here in iceland there are many sheep, and lamb is the most common meat (mutton)
+2019-08-08 05:15:34 ~tomasino the lamb is kept for wool and dairy, and then slaughtered for meat
+2019-08-08 05:15:54 ~tomasino lamb & fish are the most sustainable food sources in this area
+2019-08-08 05:16:01 kirk781 I have had a lot of mutton but no lamb :p
+2019-08-08 05:16:20 ~tomasino i don't think there's a lot of market for hogget, honestly
+2019-08-08 05:16:28 kirk781 tomasino, there mush be availability of sea food like prawns there?
+2019-08-08 05:16:28 ~tomasino not like veal vs adult beef
+2019-08-08 05:17:13 ~tomasino a wide variety of sea food, but the biggest industry is cod
+2019-08-08 05:17:29 ~tomasino and haddock and other whitefish that are plentiful in the north atlantic
+2019-08-08 05:17:43 ~tomasino this year there's no whaling! :D
+2019-08-08 05:17:53 ~tomasino first year in a very long time
+2019-08-08 05:18:01 ~tomasino but japan just started again, so that's not great
+2019-08-08 05:18:29 kirk781 Noice
+2019-08-08 05:18:40 kirk781 tomasino, have you ever had kebabs?
+2019-08-08 05:19:56 ~fosslinux which type
+2019-08-08 05:20:19 ~fosslinux shish kebab?
+2019-08-08 05:20:45 ~fosslinux or doner kebab
+2019-08-08 05:21:08 den1 i ate bot
+2019-08-08 05:21:10 den1 h*
+2019-08-08 05:21:10 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-08 05:21:13 den1 ,bef
+2019-08-08 05:21:13 BitBot [Ducks] den1 befriended a duck in 3.42 seconds! You've befriended 1 duck in #meta!
+2019-08-08 05:21:15 kirk781 I have only had the seekh one :p
+2019-08-08 05:21:23 den1 i live in istanbul xd
+2019-08-08 05:21:31 ~fosslinux seekh?
+2019-08-08 05:21:31 kirk781 den1, how's Erdogan? :p
+2019-08-08 05:21:37 den1 xd
+2019-08-08 05:21:40 ~fosslinux ah
+2019-08-08 05:21:42 den1 no comments you know
+2019-08-08 05:21:46 ~fosslinux yeah that's the one i know as shish
+2019-08-08 05:21:48 den1 i mean i cant
+2019-08-08 05:21:53 kirk781 fosslinux, Shish I meant
+2019-08-08 05:22:14 ~fosslinux yes i have had those before
+2019-08-08 05:22:19 ~tomasino yes to kebabes, shish
+2019-08-08 05:22:29 kirk781 Search for Tunday Kebab
+2019-08-08 05:22:37 ~tomasino okay
+2019-08-08 05:22:39 ~fosslinux tomasino: are they are thing in the us/iceland?
+2019-08-08 05:22:46 kirk781 I had buffalo kebabs there and they were seriously, quite tasty
+2019-08-08 05:22:50 ~tomasino in the US there's plenty of kebabs
+2019-08-08 05:22:52 <-- hijackeel (~weechat@184-23-190-60.vpn.dynamic.sonic.net) has quit (Client exited)
+2019-08-08 05:23:20 ~tomasino there's a stretch of indian food downtown in area i don't go through often
+2019-08-08 05:23:24 ~tomasino i'll have to check there
+2019-08-08 05:23:32 ~tomasino hiya foss
+2019-08-08 05:23:45 ~tomasino did you see my epic duck earlier?
+2019-08-08 05:23:55 kirk781 tomasino, currently in murica or Iceland?
+2019-08-08 05:24:12 npa 08:35 <~tomasino> npa: Plug 'Valloric/YouCompleteMe', { 'do': './install.py' }
+2019-08-08 05:24:15 ~tomasino I live in iceland
+2019-08-08 05:24:19 npa what was that for?
+2019-08-08 05:24:25 npa vundle, pathogen, etc?
+2019-08-08 05:24:30 ~tomasino vim-plug
+2019-08-08 05:24:46 ~tomasino fosslinux: https://quotes.tilde.chat/quote/165
+2019-08-08 05:24:48 BitBot [Title] ~chat IRC quote database - quote 165 - https://ttm.sh/B8
+2019-08-08 05:25:00 kirk781 Huh, I thought you moved from someplace to Iceland
+2019-08-08 05:25:01 ~fosslinux ahahah
+2019-08-08 05:25:03 ~fosslinux nice
+2019-08-08 05:25:11 ~tomasino 10+ hours
+2019-08-08 05:25:15 ~fosslinux ,time tomasino
+2019-08-08 05:25:16 BitBot [Time] Time for tomasino: 2019/08/08 09:25:15
+2019-08-08 05:25:20 ~fosslinux i like this
+2019-08-08 05:25:22 ~tomasino i thought my 2 hour one was gonna be top dog for a while
+2019-08-08 05:25:24 ~fosslinux i actually catch tomasino now
+2019-08-08 05:25:39 ~tomasino i'm very ellusive
+2019-08-08 05:25:41 * tomasino sneaks
+2019-08-08 05:25:51 ~fosslinux usa people are in bed when im on normaly
+2019-08-08 05:26:19 ~fosslinux in the evening
+2019-08-08 05:26:28 npa ty tomasino
+2019-08-08 05:26:30 ~tomasino NP
+2019-08-08 05:26:34 npa != P
+2019-08-08 05:26:36 ~tomasino i hear ya, foss
+2019-08-08 05:26:41 ~fosslinux ,time
+2019-08-08 05:26:41 BitBot [Time] Time for fosslinux: 2019/08/08 19:26:41
+2019-08-08 05:26:43 ~tomasino oh boy, npa
+2019-08-08 05:26:58 ~tomasino npa: gopher://gopher.black/1/writing/emergence
+2019-08-08 05:27:22 ~fosslinux hmm
+2019-08-08 05:27:26 ~fosslinux ill give that a read sometime
+2019-08-08 05:27:47 ~tomasino my excuses that kept me from writing are gone
+2019-08-08 05:27:54 ~tomasino i need to focus on it and finish something
+2019-08-08 05:28:11 npa looks good tomasino
+2019-08-08 05:28:18 npa i miss CYOA :'(
+2019-08-08 05:29:21 ~fosslinux sameeeeee
+2019-08-08 05:29:58 ~tomasino me too
+2019-08-08 05:30:05 ~tomasino i'll be back on the radio soon with something else
+2019-08-08 05:30:26 npa you know how ~institute does .tilde.institute? would a CNAME for a website work for that?
+2019-08-08 05:30:33 ~fosslinux uh
+2019-08-08 05:30:36 kirk781 How to add quotes?
+2019-08-08 05:30:36 ~fosslinux i have no idea
+2019-08-08 05:30:53 npa like adding this record for a domain: CNAME @ npa.tilde.institute
+2019-08-08 05:31:02 npa just thought of it for den1's question before
+2019-08-08 05:31:09 ~fosslinux qupotes.tilde.chat and press submit a quote
+2019-08-08 05:31:36 ~tomasino a cname works for a subdomain, but i don't think you can do it on the naked domain
+2019-08-08 05:31:50 kirk781 Ah; Snoonet supports addition of quotes directly from interface
+2019-08-08 05:32:18 ~tomasino kirk781: yes, i was in the US and moved to Iceland at the start of July
+2019-08-08 05:32:49 ~fosslinux whats your overall impression of iceland
+2019-08-08 05:33:04 kirk781 Well, it's an improvement in terms of countries :p
+2019-08-08 05:34:27 ~fosslinux im impressed with brendan for once
+2019-08-08 05:34:38 ~fosslinux he's listening and his lxd container is using less than 50MB of ram
+2019-08-08 05:35:18 ~tomasino good job bren
+2019-08-08 05:35:25 ~tomasino iceland is pretty fantastic
+2019-08-08 05:35:30 ~tomasino we're digging it big-time
+2019-08-08 05:35:37 ~tomasino i'm happy!
+2019-08-08 05:35:44 ~fosslinux when's wit start schoool?
+2019-08-08 05:37:27 den1 just trying to make posts on bb with vim but it uses nano
+2019-08-08 05:37:30 den1 edited .bashrc
+2019-08-08 05:37:36 den1 default editor to vim
+2019-08-08 05:37:37 ~fosslinux wat bb
+2019-08-08 05:37:44 den1 blogging stuff in ~tema
+2019-08-08 05:37:46 ~fosslinux oo bashblog
+2019-08-08 05:37:48 den1 ~team*
+2019-08-08 05:37:50 ~fosslinux ye
+2019-08-08 05:37:50 den1 yes
+2019-08-08 05:37:59 den1 also available on envs i guess
+2019-08-08 05:38:08 ~fosslinux export EDITOR=vim ?
+2019-08-08 05:38:11 den1 yes
+2019-08-08 05:38:25 ~fosslinux and what happens
+2019-08-08 05:38:26 ~tomasino school starts monday
+2019-08-08 05:38:28 ~tomasino can't wait
+2019-08-08 05:38:32 ~fosslinux :)
+2019-08-08 05:38:33 ~tomasino this kid... he needs to burn off some energy
+2019-08-08 05:38:37 ~fosslinux heh
+2019-08-08 05:38:44 ~fosslinux found any work yet?
+2019-08-08 05:38:55 ~tomasino not looking, got plenty of remote freelance for now
+2019-08-08 05:39:03 ~fosslinux oh thats good
+2019-08-08 05:39:04 ~tomasino hopefully it'll stay so steady
+2019-08-08 05:39:06 den1 cool
+2019-08-08 05:39:14 den1 fosslinux it just opens up in nano
+2019-08-08 05:39:19 den1 which makes me angry xd
+2019-08-08 05:39:20 ~fosslinux uh
+2019-08-08 05:39:22 ~fosslinux uh
+2019-08-08 05:39:24 ~fosslinux stupid bb
+2019-08-08 05:39:25 den1 respect to people who use nano
+2019-08-08 05:39:33 den1 they are having hard time i guess
+2019-08-08 05:39:34 ~fosslinux did you restart your term?
+2019-08-08 05:39:37 den1 no
+2019-08-08 05:39:42 den1 let me exit from byobu
+2019-08-08 05:39:42 ~fosslinux hold on
+2019-08-08 05:39:48 ~fosslinux did you add export TERM=xterm to .bashrc
+2019-08-08 05:39:50 den1 ?
+2019-08-08 05:39:52 ~fosslinux or run it in your term
+2019-08-08 05:40:00 ~fosslinux akldf
+2019-08-08 05:40:02 ~fosslinux oops
+2019-08-08 05:40:07 ~fosslinux export EDITOR=vim
+2019-08-08 05:40:27 ~fosslinux (i'm just used to export TERM=xterm when i have compatibility issues with alacritty)
+2019-08-08 05:40:37 den1 yes i did
+2019-08-08 05:40:51 den1 it was nano and just changed
+2019-08-08 05:41:29 den1 lemme try something
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+2019-08-08 05:42:00 ~fosslinux wb
+2019-08-08 05:42:03 den1 yay it works
+2019-08-08 05:42:38 den1 restarted byobu
+2019-08-08 06:01:59 ~tomasino http://keys.gnupg.net/pks/lookup?op=vindex&fingerprint=on&search=0x4BD8FAB04B8C90EF
+2019-08-08 06:02:00 BitBot [Title] Search results for '0x4bd8fab04b8c90ef' - https://ttm.sh/Bg
+2019-08-08 06:02:11 ~tomasino hey look, one of my first email addresses! long gone now, but the key remains
+2019-08-08 06:06:02 den1 http://sbcyahoo.prodigy.net/
+2019-08-08 06:06:10 den1 made a search on progidy.net and found that
+2019-08-08 06:06:28 den1 also that http://sbcyahoo.prodigy.net/openPhone/index.html
+2019-08-08 06:06:30 BitBot [Title] AT&T Account Manager - https://ttm.sh/Bf
+2019-08-08 06:06:33 npa why does that redirect me to sumptuouscapital.com tomasino
+2019-08-08 06:06:42 den1 and when you click my account
+2019-08-08 06:06:45 den1 redirects to yahoo
+2019-08-08 06:09:42 ~tomasino prodigy is long gone isn't it?
+2019-08-08 06:10:06 ~tomasino domain just went to someone parking crap
+2019-08-08 06:10:24 ~tomasino my old website, aloneone.com, turns out to have gone to a very cool artist in NYC
+2019-08-08 06:10:29 ~tomasino i sent him a note
+2019-08-08 06:11:21 den1 parking should be banned
+2019-08-08 06:11:28 den1 we discussed it on lobsters irc
+2019-08-08 06:11:39 den1 was an interesting talk
+2019-08-08 06:15:01 ~tomasino yeah, well, when DNS dies we can think it through better
+2019-08-08 06:17:11 npa web 3.0 blockchain distributed hyperledger naming service
+2019-08-08 06:20:48 den1 opennic for now
+2019-08-08 06:20:55 den1 or .bit
+2019-08-08 06:21:05 den1 but it is not used by most people which also causes problem
+2019-08-08 06:21:15 den1 you need to make it like *www*
+2019-08-08 06:21:26 den1 to make it near-usable or usable
+2019-08-08 06:21:33 den1 but the not www that we know
+2019-08-08 06:22:03 younix I saw some people using .eth domains a few days ago
+2019-08-08 06:22:23 den1 isnt it for payments at ethereum network
+2019-08-08 06:22:24 younix ipfs supports it already iirc
+2019-08-08 06:22:32 den1 ens*
+2019-08-08 06:22:45 younix It's just a naming service I believe
+2019-08-08 06:22:45 den1 ethereum name **
+2019-08-08 06:22:55 younix You can use it for payments or dns
+2019-08-08 06:22:57 den1 actually when you use myetherwallet
+2019-08-08 06:23:15 den1 it allows you to create one and receive payments with it
+2019-08-08 06:23:26 younix In ipfs' case, it points to an ipfs hash
+2019-08-08 06:23:30 den1 but never seen someone using .eth domain
+2019-08-08 06:23:34 den1 ah yes
+2019-08-08 06:23:37 den1 thats true
+2019-08-08 06:23:42 den1 but how?
+2019-08-08 06:24:00 younix web 3.0 blockchain distributed hyperledger naming service
+2019-08-08 06:24:51 younix I think one of the issues with these crypto ledgers is that there's so much greed involved
+2019-08-08 06:24:51 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-08 06:24:54 den1 ,bef
+2019-08-08 06:24:54 BitBot [Ducks] den1 befriended a duck in 2.75 seconds! You've befriended 2 ducks in #meta!
+2019-08-08 06:24:55 younix ,hug
+2019-08-08 06:24:56 BitBot [Ducks] younix: There was no duck!
+2019-08-08 06:25:06 den1 read it
+2019-08-08 06:25:16 den1 it is pretty possible
+2019-08-08 06:25:28 den1 but how we visit these
+2019-08-08 06:25:40 younix Like, back when the internet first started, people were excited to help each other host sites, and would give free compute time and resources
+2019-08-08 06:26:10 younix The crypto community is more like, "why should I store this data if I'm not getting coins"
+2019-08-08 06:26:25 younix And you get a lot of unavailability of content
+2019-08-08 06:26:28 den1 on some they are getting
+2019-08-08 06:26:48 den1 dont remember name of it but there is a storage one which you provide storage and make money
+2019-08-08 06:27:02 npa swarm?
+2019-08-08 06:27:13 younix The money aspect is toxic, imo
+2019-08-08 06:27:13 npa the ethereum web 3.0 stuff
+2019-08-08 06:27:29 den1 also, you guys at crypto community, you should store data because you have data too.
+2019-08-08 06:27:34 den1 it is like a hosting tor exit node
+2019-08-08 06:27:38 den1 but not always
+2019-08-08 06:27:57 younix People have lots of excess storage and bandwidth... It could easily be shared freely
+2019-08-08 06:28:00 den1 you are running a onion service and also running your tor exit node
+2019-08-08 06:28:12 den1 thats why we need lots of people
+2019-08-08 06:28:23 younix People used to seed torrents just out of the belief that they should give back
+2019-08-08 06:28:26 den1 just reaid it wrong sorry
+2019-08-08 06:29:22 den1 also it should be possible to make any .stuff on ethereum network isnt it?
+2019-08-08 06:29:34 den1 because if .eth exist others can exist on ethereum network
+2019-08-08 06:29:42 younix I suppose there's also a lack of motivation to host things like ipfs because the system feels barren of content and users when you first set it up
+2019-08-08 06:29:47 den1 just pay gas fee and start your own tld :DDD
+2019-08-08 06:30:13 npa younix: that's why facebook and stuff is worth a fuck tonne - users are hard to acquire
+2019-08-08 06:30:21 den1 there can be a coin which also provides storage
+2019-08-08 06:30:38 den1 storage ona blockchain like ipfs but it also have its own coin
+2019-08-08 06:30:43 younix npa: Facebook thought more about the onboarding process I think
+2019-08-08 06:30:44 den1 so people have reason to run full node
+2019-08-08 06:31:04 younix Ipfs has a coin
+2019-08-08 06:31:07 den1 but why people should use it, that's the moment you are being have to provide a reason
+2019-08-08 06:31:09 den1 really?
+2019-08-08 06:31:16 younix I don't think money helps though
+2019-08-08 06:31:22 den1 filecoin?
+2019-08-08 06:31:35 younix Whatever it's called
+2019-08-08 06:32:29 younix As npa said, if you don't have the users, it'll feel like a dead place...
+2019-08-08 06:33:25 younix Getting reads rewards from nobody isn't very enticing
+2019-08-08 06:33:31 younix -reads
+2019-08-08 06:34:58 younix I think money is too abstract as well... Content has tangible meaningful value. A virtual coin for hosting encrypted data doesn't really feel meaningful
+2019-08-08 06:36:20 younix I wish everyone wasn't trying to hide everything
+2019-08-08 06:36:37 younix I think it's detrimental in the long run
+2019-08-08 06:38:01 younix People were very open online originally, then companies and governments took advantage of that, and now everybody wants to hide in rabbit warrens
+2019-08-08 06:38:27 ~ubergeek There was an article about this recently on tilde.news
+2019-08-08 06:38:40 younix Meanwhile, they're still being surveiled by their physical devices
+2019-08-08 06:38:57 younix ubergeek: link?
+2019-08-08 06:39:09 ~ubergeek https://tilde.news/s/t9lxtf/dark_forest_theory_internet
+2019-08-08 06:39:11 BitBot [Title] The Dark Forest Theory of the Internet | tilde news - https://ttm.sh/Ba
+2019-08-08 06:40:37 younix Thanks!
+2019-08-08 06:41:51 younix "Imagine a dark forest at night. It’s deathly quiet. Nothing moves. Nothing stirs. This could lead one to assume that the forest is devoid of life. But of course, it’s not. The dark forest is full of life. It’s quiet because night is when the predators come out. To survive, the animals stay silent." <- that happens in the day more than the night
+2019-08-08 06:42:22 younix At night, the darkness hides the prey, so they can be slightly less quiet
+2019-08-08 06:42:46 younix In the day time, everybody shuts up when a predator comes
+2019-08-08 06:47:55 ~ubergeek Analogies are never perfect :)
+2019-08-08 06:48:27 <-- kirk781 (~kirk781@203.110.242.17) has quit (quit: Leaving)
+2019-08-08 06:48:28 ~ubergeek Dark forests are pretty fucking silent, though. I've slept in them more than a few times. Every, little, noise puts you on edge the first couple of times you do it
+2019-08-08 06:49:17 younix Ok, true
+2019-08-08 06:49:49 younix And predators have adapted night vision and powerful ears
+2019-08-08 06:49:56 ~ubergeek Even a damned squirrel sounds like a bear outside your hammock :P
+2019-08-08 06:50:08 younix So the night advantage is diminished
+2019-08-08 06:51:12 younix Analogies are like a two headed sloth: they don't always make sense to use
+2019-08-08 06:51:58 younix The best analogies have 80% overlap with the domain you're trying to represent
+2019-08-08 06:52:08 younix I think the forest is about 30%
+2019-08-08 06:59:48 younix I don't like the dark forest analogy because people can live in multiple communities online at once
+2019-08-08 07:00:55 <-- dgold (~dgold@ascraeus.org) has quit (The TLS connection was non-properly terminated.)
+2019-08-08 07:01:18 younix I found it best to have a private group of friends who you know well, where you can be unfiltered, and a public space where you can share the best insights/conversations from the private area while learning from others' private groups
+2019-08-08 07:01:57 ~ubergeek I think most got the analogy though :)
+2019-08-08 07:03:38 younix There's a new york times article from the 1930s that says governments need that ability as well: having a complex technical argument in public, where people haven't come to definite conclusions yet is very difficult, since the whole process becomes derailed by knee jerk reactions to embryonic arguments and ideas
+2019-08-08 07:04:18 younix But once a consensus has been reached, it must be made public, so that the populace can give their feedback
+2019-08-08 07:04:34 younix It's a bit like thinking before you speak
+2019-08-08 07:04:48 younix People can't say everything that comes into their heads
+2019-08-08 07:05:07 younix It would lead to chaos
+2019-08-08 07:06:42 younix But it's great to have a group of people where you don't need as much of a filter
+2019-08-08 07:06:51 younix It's about a proper balance
+2019-08-08 08:32:27 <-- smoerk (~quassel@sunfire-cape.gate.wayne-enterprises.company) has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds)
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+2019-08-08 08:37:39 npa upgrading to sid from stretch
+2019-08-08 08:37:42 npa wish me luck bois
+2019-08-08 08:43:43 jesopo mew
+2019-08-08 08:46:50 npa hello jesopo
+2019-08-08 08:47:01 jesopo npal!
+2019-08-08 08:47:03 jesopo <3
+2019-08-08 08:52:15 npa <33333
+2019-08-08 09:04:33 login sid, stretch = ?, ?
+2019-08-08 09:04:37 login best of luck npa
+2019-08-08 09:04:39 login welcome smoerk
+2019-08-08 09:06:12 <-- BitBot (bitbot@bitbot.dev) has quit (quit: upgrades)
+2019-08-08 09:06:49 --> BitBot [BitBot] (BitBot) (bitbot@bitbot.dev) has joined #meta
+2019-08-08 09:09:00 ~ben owowow sid
+2019-08-08 09:09:03 ~ben nice npa
+2019-08-08 09:09:19 jesopo b3n
+2019-08-08 09:10:40 login ,ud sid
+2019-08-08 09:10:41 BitBot [UrbanDictionary] Sid: [Epicness]. Win, something good. Other name for playboy [succes]. Almost all girls love the [Sid], however, because a Sid is someone in great power they might be afraid to say hi. But a Sid loves Girls and will always be willing to have a nice time with them. Sid is also a male name, shortened from [Sidney], which is a unisex name. HOW TO FIND A [SID]: 1. A Sid is someone that is very int (more...)
+2019-08-08 09:10:44 login ,define sid
+2019-08-08 09:10:45 BitBot [Define] No definitions found
+2019-08-08 09:10:51 login ,g sid software
+2019-08-08 09:10:52 jesopo sid is a debian version
+2019-08-08 09:10:53 BitBot [Google] (sid software) https://www.aavso.org/sid-software
+2019-08-08 09:11:00 login ah
+2019-08-08 09:11:04 jesopo ,g debian sid
+2019-08-08 09:11:05 BitBot [Google] (debian sid) https://www.debian.org/releases/sid/
+2019-08-08 09:11:07 login stretch was also a debian version?
+2019-08-08 09:11:09 jesopo yes
+2019-08-08 09:11:10 ~ben yes
+2019-08-08 09:11:12 ~ben 9
+2019-08-08 09:11:17 login 9
+2019-08-08 09:11:18 ~ben 10 is buster
+2019-08-08 09:11:28 login which is the latest stable release?
+2019-08-08 09:11:31 ~ben buster
+2019-08-08 09:11:40 login and lts release is also buster?
+2019-08-08 09:11:56 ~ben debian doesn't do "lts"
+2019-08-08 09:12:02 login alright
+2019-08-08 09:12:06 login stable by default
+2019-08-08 09:12:20 ~ben https://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleases
+2019-08-08 09:12:22 BitBot [Title] DebianReleases - Debian Wiki - https://ttm.sh/BO
+2019-08-08 09:12:22 login does red hat enterprise linux do lts?
+2019-08-08 09:12:30 jesopo ,g red hat lts
+2019-08-08 09:12:32 BitBot [Google] (red hat lts) https://access.redhat.com/support/policy/updates/errata
+2019-08-08 09:12:35 ~ben https://wiki.debian.org/LTS
+2019-08-08 09:12:35 BitBot [Title] LTS - Debian Wiki - https://ttm.sh/hk
+2019-08-08 09:12:39 ~ben https://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleases
+2019-08-08 09:12:40 BitBot [Title] DebianReleases - Debian Wiki - https://ttm.sh/BO
+2019-08-08 09:12:53 login also, does xfce do a floating window manager?
+2019-08-08 09:13:00 jesopo are we google
+2019-08-08 09:13:09 ~ben apparently
+2019-08-08 09:13:23 ~ben lmgtfy
+2019-08-08 09:13:35 login "The latest packages arrive in unstable (which always has the codename "Sid")"
+2019-08-08 09:13:45 login Sid is always the unstable branch?
+2019-08-08 09:13:49 jesopo ...
+2019-08-08 09:13:52 login you're better than google ;)
+2019-08-08 09:13:57 jesopo pay me
+2019-08-08 09:14:12 login crypto or tildecoin?
+2019-08-08 09:14:26 login what about in iou's?
+2019-08-08 09:19:57 login alright, xfce is stacking and compositing
+2019-08-08 09:20:02 login took some time to find out
+2019-08-08 09:23:53 ~ben sid aka "Still In Development" or the rude neighbor boy in toy story
+2019-08-08 09:24:02 login ah, now i understand
+2019-08-08 09:24:11 login i didn't watch toy story 4, so i don't know about sid in toy story
+2019-08-08 09:24:19 ~ben sid is in toy story one
+2019-08-08 09:24:24 login i didn't make the connection between still-in-development and sid
+2019-08-08 09:24:28 login until you pointed it out
+2019-08-08 09:24:35 login i've forgotten toy story one
+2019-08-08 09:24:35 ~ben all debian release codenames are toy story characters
+2019-08-08 09:24:49 login i didn't know that until you pointed it out
+2019-08-08 09:25:03 login now i see the connection between sid, toy story, and debian
+2019-08-08 09:25:19 login and google wouldn't have told me that because i didn't even know i didn't know about this
+2019-08-08 09:25:53 login so stretch is the stretch toy?
+2019-08-08 09:26:00 ~ben ya
+2019-08-08 09:26:00 login and who's buster?
+2019-08-08 09:26:23 ~ben the dog
+2019-08-08 09:26:29 login ah
+2019-08-08 09:26:39 login i didn't make the connection even after stretch, sid, buster
+2019-08-08 09:26:53 login that would either point to low iq, or less general-knowledge about toy story
+2019-08-08 09:26:56 ~ben 11 is bullseye
+2019-08-08 09:27:03 ~ben 12 is bookworm
+2019-08-08 09:27:12 login the future versions have already been pre-named?
+2019-08-08 09:27:19 ~ben yup
+2019-08-08 09:27:20 login that's great, and another thing i didn't know
+2019-08-08 09:27:30 login *and didn't know i didn't know
+2019-08-08 09:27:33 ~ben it's all on the debian wiki page i linked
+2019-08-08 09:27:36 ~ben https://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleases
+2019-08-08 09:27:37 BitBot [Title] DebianReleases - Debian Wiki - https://ttm.sh/BO
+2019-08-08 09:28:11 login RC-Buggy, is Buggy also a toy-story name?
+2019-08-08 09:28:55 ~ben it's on the page
+2019-08-08 09:29:12 ~ben > Releases of the Debian distribution have both traditional version numbers and codenames based on characters from the Pixar/Disney movie "Toy Story" (1995). Sid, as you may recall, was the evil neighbor kid who broke all the toys. Additionally, the codename for the Experimental repository, RC-Buggy, was Andy's toy car, and is a pun on 'Release Critical' and 'Remote Control.'
+2019-08-08 09:30:26 echelon yeah
+2019-08-08 09:30:32 echelon like lenny
+2019-08-08 09:30:33 echelon stretch
+2019-08-08 09:30:35 echelon wheezy
+2019-08-08 09:30:36 echelon etc
+2019-08-08 09:30:37 ~ben etch
+2019-08-08 09:30:38 echelon yep
+2019-08-08 09:30:42 ~ben it's all on the wiki page i linked
+2019-08-08 09:30:46 echelon i knew that
+2019-08-08 09:30:52 echelon i've been running debian boxes for over a decade
+2019-08-08 09:30:59 ~ben +1
+2019-08-08 09:31:45 echelon hrm
+2019-08-08 09:31:59 echelon i scheduled about 5-10 mins of downtime :o
+2019-08-08 09:32:03 echelon with my 50ish webclients
+2019-08-08 09:32:07 echelon sent out mass email about it
+2019-08-08 09:32:25 echelon I have to restart the first time in 160 days
+2019-08-08 09:32:35 echelon the last time I restarted was when I installed a new NIC
+2019-08-08 09:32:45 echelon or rather the DC attendants did
+2019-08-08 09:33:26 echelon I had to pick a Saturday because i have a client that watches forex trading usd<>eur and keeps data tables from market open to market close every week
+2019-08-08 09:33:35 echelon and even 5 mins downtime can mess up his entire datasets
+2019-08-08 09:33:45 echelon just his VPS has 60GB of just .json files alrady
+2019-08-08 09:34:18 echelon i used kernelcare livepatching for that dedicated too but there was a fuckton of updates on system programs
+2019-08-08 09:34:25 echelon that only a restart will work @ ben
+2019-08-08 09:34:40 echelon once i restart my clustering will work properly as well
+2019-08-08 09:36:43 den1 ,bef
+2019-08-08 09:36:44 BitBot [Ducks] den1: There was no duck!
+2019-08-08 09:36:50 den1 hi
+2019-08-08 09:37:40 jesopo ducc
+2019-08-08 09:38:23 southerntofu "5 mins downtime can mess up his entire datasets" doesn't sound like a very reasonable approach :D
+2019-08-08 09:38:43 southerntofu right now you're delaying maintenance but the server may crash for some reason at some point (or electricity shut down)
+2019-08-08 09:38:44 --> Wallet [Wallet] (realname) (~Wallet@one.dime) has joined #meta
+2019-08-08 09:41:00 login welcome back, Wallet
+2019-08-08 09:41:21 Wallet hey login
+2019-08-08 09:41:27 southerntofu (hey people)
+2019-08-08 09:41:49 login hey southerntofu
+2019-08-08 09:41:55 login kernelcare livepatching sounds cool
+2019-08-08 09:42:16 den1 http://www.nyx.net/validate.html just wow
+2019-08-08 09:42:17 BitBot [Title] Nyx Validation - https://ttm.sh/Bm
+2019-08-08 09:42:20 den1 really interesting
+2019-08-08 09:42:21 login when forex trading becomes global through the bitcoin intermediary
+2019-08-08 09:42:29 login usd<->btc, btc<->eur
+2019-08-08 09:42:38 ~ben oof
+2019-08-08 09:42:53 login and 24/7, how will one be able to watch forex trading while updating computers?
+2019-08-08 09:42:59 login will it have to be dual-redundant?
+2019-08-08 09:43:16 login switching over from first computer to both, then to the second once they're synchronised
+2019-08-08 09:43:20 login then the first one is shutdown and updated
+2019-08-08 09:43:38 login then switching from second to both, to first when they're synchronised
+2019-08-08 09:43:42 login then updating the second
+2019-08-08 09:44:12 login or any way to have that thing run in a virtual machine that can be moved in real-time from one computer to another while running?
+2019-08-08 09:44:19 login i think vmware had a thing that did something like this
+2019-08-08 09:44:51 login but then one would have to update the OS on the virtual machine too, so back to square 1
+2019-08-08 09:46:16 echelon it does, login
+2019-08-08 09:46:22 echelon it's how i've kept a huge uptime already
+2019-08-08 09:46:22 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-08 09:46:34 echelon it's worth the $6/mo to keep both proxmox nodes updated
+2019-08-08 09:46:42 echelon it's up to clients to apt update/upgrade their own hosts
+2019-08-08 09:46:47 echelon on the VM level
+2019-08-08 09:47:16 Wallet ,bef
+2019-08-08 09:47:17 BitBot [Ducks] Wallet befriended a duck in 54.74 seconds! You've befriended 3 ducks in #meta!
+2019-08-08 09:47:24 echelon uh southerntofu; my host is pretty solid on power
+2019-08-08 09:47:43 echelon alternative energies and redudant power supply
+2019-08-08 09:47:49 echelon they've been in the game for at least a decade
+2019-08-08 09:47:55 --> adium [adium] (adium) (~adium@187.181.130.100) has joined #meta
+2019-08-08 09:48:05 echelon i also have SWRAID
+2019-08-08 09:48:21 echelon so i'm not gonna lose shit it's the data collection period is during open market hours during the week
+2019-08-08 09:48:25 southerntofu what about your connectivity? are your peering/transit links also "energy-independant" in case of failure?
+2019-08-08 09:48:38 echelon I would assume so they have a huge peering network
+2019-08-08 09:49:40 southerntofu that's why people assume about datacenters and cloud networks, until the fail occurs :P
+2019-08-08 09:49:43 southerntofu what*
+2019-08-08 09:49:59 ~ben generally pretty reliable though
+2019-08-08 09:50:01 echelon I need to get like 2x4TB drives here at home
+2019-08-08 09:50:03 southerntofu anyway personally i'm fine with not hitting more than 4 or 5 9's
+2019-08-08 09:50:18 ~ben reliable _enough_
+2019-08-08 09:50:27 echelon i would need that much space to onsite backup for my entire network
+2019-08-08 09:50:35 ~ben echelon: i just got 2x10tb drives at home :)
+2019-08-08 09:50:36 southerntofu we should have more services not relying on instant and permanent connectivity, like the DNS and the mail were designed
+2019-08-08 09:50:38 echelon rn data footprint is nearly 6TB
+2019-08-08 09:50:38 echelon yeah
+2019-08-08 09:51:09 echelon you realize that huge sites like fb have server farms, multiple ones, at diff points around the globe
+2019-08-08 09:51:13 echelon i'm small
+2019-08-08 09:51:22 echelon i've only just started my hosting business 2 yrs ago when i bought my first dedicated server
+2019-08-08 09:51:29 echelon now I have 2
+2019-08-08 09:51:37 echelon and I also have an offsite storage pool
+2019-08-08 09:51:45 echelon thanks to soyoustart (and ben)
+2019-08-08 09:52:00 ~ben soyoustart has been pretty good so far
+2019-08-08 09:52:02 ~ben for me
+2019-08-08 09:52:21 echelon it's only keeping ftp/scp/rsync backup and samba sharing
+2019-08-08 09:52:28 echelon samba shares so i can use custom ISOs with Hetzner
+2019-08-08 09:52:33 echelon that's so easy
+2019-08-08 09:53:06 echelon WHAT?
+2019-08-08 09:53:20 echelon the guy that was the holographic doctor in Voyager is in this?!
+2019-08-08 09:53:27 ~ben what
+2019-08-08 09:53:28 * echelon is watching The Burbs
+2019-08-08 09:53:40 echelon old comedies today
+2019-08-08 09:53:51 echelon circa 1989 starring a very young tom hanks and carrie fisher
+2019-08-08 09:54:54 southerntofu echelon: yea but careful they're a discount operator with really terrible support
+2019-08-08 09:55:11 echelon southerntofu: have never ever had an issue with them
+2019-08-08 09:55:19 ~ben soyoustart or hetzner
+2019-08-08 09:55:24 echelon i had a mainboard fry once
+2019-08-08 09:55:27 echelon and i was back up within 3 hours
+2019-08-08 09:55:32 southerntofu kimsufi and soyoustart are the discount brands of OVH
+2019-08-08 09:55:36 ~ben yup
+2019-08-08 09:55:48 echelon once they figured out what happened, they had me with another motherboard and networking up and a kvm hooked up in case i needed it
+2019-08-08 09:55:50 echelon all free
+2019-08-08 09:55:51 southerntofu here in france we use them widely for fun and small VMs
+2019-08-08 09:56:05 southerntofu but there's so many horror stories with them nobody would dare to host critical stuff there
+2019-08-08 09:56:14 echelon hrm
+2019-08-08 09:56:17 southerntofu echelon: nice, it usually doesn't go like that :)
+2019-08-08 09:56:33 ~ben haven't had any issues with soyoustart
+2019-08-08 09:56:36 southerntofu but OVH cares about their reputation so if they see you've got quite a network they would care about you
+2019-08-08 09:56:37 login do you know arisotura, southerntofu?
+2019-08-08 09:56:46 southerntofu nope sorry
+2019-08-08 09:56:48 echelon that's hetzner
+2019-08-08 09:56:51 echelon not ovh
+2019-08-08 09:56:52 echelon i hate ovh
+2019-08-08 09:56:54 echelon but sys is ok
+2019-08-08 09:56:55 echelon it's weird
+2019-08-08 09:56:57 login i feel like the whole world is going that way, where if you've got a network, they care about you
+2019-08-08 09:57:11 ~ben i rent a E5-SAT-1-64 from sys
+2019-08-08 09:57:25 login is tilde.team on soyoustart (is soyoustart = sys?)
+2019-08-08 09:57:28 ~ben yes
+2019-08-08 09:57:42 login is it soyous tart or so-you-start?
+2019-08-08 09:57:54 ~ben lol what do you think
+2019-08-08 09:58:02 login i just google'd it.
+2019-08-08 09:58:05 southerntofu echelon: AFAIK soyoustart.com is run by OVH
+2019-08-08 09:58:08 login the title says "So you Start servers"
+2019-08-08 09:58:08 ~ben it is
+2019-08-08 09:59:06 echelon yeah
+2019-08-08 09:59:16 echelon but sometimes dealing with a reseller of someone is better than the someone?
+2019-08-08 09:59:19 southerntofu anyway here in france we find selfhosting (whether in a datacenter or not) is usually way more reliable than those huge corporations
+2019-08-08 09:59:23 echelon that's happened before many times in my life
+2019-08-08 09:59:24 echelon rofl
+2019-08-08 09:59:37 southerntofu still OVH got a nice neutral policy on provided services, they hosted wikileaks for a while if i remember
+2019-08-08 09:59:44 echelon if i could afford colocation here in the US I'd have done it years ago
+2019-08-08 09:59:58 southerntofu it's very affordable if you approach the right people
+2019-08-08 10:00:03 echelon yeah hetzner has 0 tolerance on porn or hate speech or anything like that
+2019-08-08 10:00:09 login who hosts wikileaks now?
+2019-08-08 10:00:09 southerntofu ~100€/month/U usually
+2019-08-08 10:00:12 echelon cuz it's German law
+2019-08-08 10:00:14 echelon heh
+2019-08-08 10:00:34 southerntofu echelon: i have zero tolerance for hate speech and i don't abide by any law :P
+2019-08-08 10:01:03 echelon lol
+2019-08-08 10:01:04 echelon yeah
+2019-08-08 10:01:08 echelon if someone tried to host on my shit
+2019-08-08 10:01:13 echelon they'd be down before Hetzner could TOS me
+2019-08-08 10:01:14 login when one is selfhosting in a datacenter, they give you a rack but not hardware right?
+2019-08-08 10:01:21 echelon yeah
+2019-08-08 10:01:22 login only connectivity, power, and temperature
+2019-08-08 10:01:24 echelon you provide hardware
+2019-08-08 10:01:26 echelon yep
+2019-08-08 10:01:50 login but if one is self-hosting not in a datacenter, how does it connect to the internet?
+2019-08-08 10:02:18 ~ben how does anyone connect to the internet
+2019-08-08 10:02:20 ~ben lol
+2019-08-08 10:02:22 southerntofu login: through any other means
+2019-08-08 10:02:27 login surely not over a residential connection, right? would one have to buy a commercial connection?
+2019-08-08 10:02:34 southerntofu i mean you can have rackspace in an IX, at home
+2019-08-08 10:02:35 login or are there places where such connections are available?
+2019-08-08 10:02:39 ~ben you can host plenty of stuff on a residential connection
+2019-08-08 10:02:44 login what's an IX?
+2019-08-08 10:02:48 echelon lol
+2019-08-08 10:02:52 ~ben or just order a commercial connection at home
+2019-08-08 10:02:54 login my upload speed is 2 megabits per second. it's not enough
+2019-08-08 10:02:54 southerntofu or in a collective space with a non-profit ISP serving a fiber connection
+2019-08-08 10:02:59 login to host anything
+2019-08-08 10:03:03 echelon ben: spectrum doesn't like hosting port 80 services from home
+2019-08-08 10:03:05 login only good for downloading, not uploading
+2019-08-08 10:03:10 echelon if they find out they usually block it
+2019-08-08 10:03:19 echelon they want you to pay for business class
+2019-08-08 10:03:29 southerntofu login: Internet eXchange is a place where operators meet to route trafic more easily (just throw cables across the room and you've got your peering link)
+2019-08-08 10:03:39 ~ben i have 80 and 443 on my home network forwarded to ssh on two of my machines at home
+2019-08-08 10:03:48 echelon ah nice
+2019-08-08 10:03:54 ~ben i've hosted stuff on 443 previously
+2019-08-08 10:04:00 southerntofu echelon: depends on your ISP but a lot of people do that, and it's becoming way more common with fiber coming to many places
+2019-08-08 10:04:03 ~ben but i already have lots of other places to host things :P
+2019-08-08 10:04:14 ~ben we're getting muni fiber here soon!!
+2019-08-08 10:04:35 echelon lol
+2019-08-08 10:04:38 echelon yes, as do I
+2019-08-08 10:04:44 echelon it is nice being able to spin up a vps at whim
+2019-08-08 10:04:45 echelon ;)
+2019-08-08 10:04:46 southerntofu ben: nginx/sslh can distinguish SSH/TLS trafic so you can host both HTTPS and SSH reverse-proxy on port 443 :D
+2019-08-08 10:04:48 login i wonder if what the muni fiber is connecteed to has enough capacity
+2019-08-08 10:04:57 ~ben 10gbit backbone iirc
+2019-08-08 10:04:58 login is the internet backbone underutilised?
+2019-08-08 10:05:04 southerntofu ben: you mean as a public service? amazing? do you have more info somewhere?
+2019-08-08 10:05:06 echelon and now i can set up local only ones that use the gateway (main IP) to face outward
+2019-08-08 10:05:11 ~ben oh yea i've looked at sslh
+2019-08-08 10:05:16 ~ben never bothered with it
+2019-08-08 10:05:20 southerntofu login: the backbone is a lie :-P
+2019-08-08 10:05:27 login it's a lie?
+2019-08-08 10:05:30 login what's the truth then?
+2019-08-08 10:05:33 echelon mmm i love me some nginx reverse proxy
+2019-08-08 10:05:36 ~ben southerntofu: https://www.tclp.org/Display/itemDetails/Item/384
+2019-08-08 10:05:37 echelon i've been using nginx for many yeras
+2019-08-08 10:05:38 BitBot [Title] Fiber Broadband FAQ - https://ttm.sh/BM
+2019-08-08 10:05:39 southerntofu peering is the way of the internets <3
+2019-08-08 10:05:40 echelon years*
+2019-08-08 10:05:49 echelon it went apache2 -> lighttpd -> nginx
+2019-08-08 10:05:51 echelon and never looked back
+2019-08-08 10:05:51 ~ben nginx <3
+2019-08-08 10:05:59 ~ben no reason to use anything else ;)
+2019-08-08 10:06:06 southerntofu what people call "the backbone" is centralized infrastructure controled by huge corporations
+2019-08-08 10:06:25 southerntofu it's an abstraction used by these corporation to capture our imagination into thinking the internet HAS TO be expensive and centralized
+2019-08-08 10:06:39 southerntofu but the truth is any link you can come up with helps the whole network grow
+2019-08-08 10:07:13 southerntofu i mean you'll probably end up paying for some transit at some point, but the principle of the internet is to interconnect freely different operators
+2019-08-08 10:07:15 ~ben gigabit at home :3
+2019-08-08 10:07:33 southerntofu ben: yes but this gigabit is a lie, too
+2019-08-08 10:07:44 ~ben symmetric
+2019-08-08 10:07:57 southerntofu oh sorry you meant with your public service, sure :)
+2019-08-08 10:08:04 ~ben TCL&P is
+2019-08-08 10:08:06 ~ben looking at the potential of offering a 10 Gigabit symmetrical service at initial deployment
+2019-08-08 10:08:09 login which public service?
+2019-08-08 10:08:15 ~ben the last link i posted
+2019-08-08 10:08:16 login is TCL&P an ISP?
+2019-08-08 10:08:25 ~ben traverse city light & power
+2019-08-08 10:09:19 southerntofu wait i'm reading the document ben, this sounds like a delegation of public service to a private company, am i correct?
+2019-08-08 10:09:19 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-08 10:09:28 ~ben ,bef
+2019-08-08 10:09:28 BitBot [Ducks] ben befriended a duck in 8.41 seconds! You've befriended 120 ducks in #meta!
+2019-08-08 10:09:40 southerntofu oO
+2019-08-08 10:10:05 southerntofu or is TCL&P a public service provider, a non-profit, a cooperative of some kind?
+2019-08-08 10:10:26 southerntofu i mean if the city is not paying for it and the customers are gonna bring profits to the provider that's a pretty bad scheme imo
+2019-08-08 10:11:13 ~ben it's the municipal electrical utility
+2019-08-08 10:11:28 southerntofu many schemes like that are used in france by municipalities and the governent to give monopoly on infrastructure (water/highway/internet) to their friends' corporations
+2019-08-08 10:11:35 southerntofu ah ok sounds good :D
+2019-08-08 10:11:56 ~ben they'll be operating it i think?
+2019-08-08 10:12:05 ~ben but they're contracting out a lot of the construction
+2019-08-08 10:13:01 login many times, what happens is that they go overcost
+2019-08-08 10:13:13 login and aren't able to pay their debt
+2019-08-08 10:13:27 login and are forced to sell the infrastructure they built below cost to the big carriers
+2019-08-08 10:13:42 login who thus get built fibre network for less than it would cost them to build themselves
+2019-08-08 10:13:59 login thus, nobody wants to build them because it won't pay for itself or will have to be sold below cost
+2019-08-08 10:13:59 ~ben we'll see what happens
+2019-08-08 10:14:22 ~ben looks like it's intended to be run/maintained by the public utility
+2019-08-08 10:14:26 login it's one of those things, if almost everyone has it and you don't, then it makes sense
+2019-08-08 10:14:34 den1 ,bef
+2019-08-08 10:14:34 BitBot [Ducks] den1: There was no duck!
+2019-08-08 10:14:37 login but if almost nobody has it and you do, it doesn't make much sense
+2019-08-08 10:15:05 login i think they should build something that's capable of 1 terabit per second per user for a population density that they predict 20 years into the future
+2019-08-08 10:15:42 login because a huge bottleneck to VR and remote gaming is internet speed
+2019-08-08 10:16:01 login it's better to overbuild this stuff, because it always eventually turns out to have been underbuilt
+2019-08-08 10:16:06 southerntofu login: i think if we haven't gone more low-tech until then, there won't be much population/computers left to worry about :)
+2019-08-08 10:16:29 login if that happens, then nothing matters and nothing is real, so better to go all out
+2019-08-08 10:16:35 login than save some paper that won't be worth anything
+2019-08-08 10:16:45 login (useless currency notes, in other words)
+2019-08-08 10:16:57 southerntofu well, sure
+2019-08-08 10:17:07 southerntofu paper is worth only the belief in the capitalist order of things
+2019-08-08 10:17:10 login there is always one solution to climate change and global warming people don't talk about
+2019-08-08 10:17:25 login true, believing in the paper is believing in the country
+2019-08-08 10:17:32 southerntofu the minute money can't be used to capture resources and workforce from the poor, they'll make it be worht nothing
+2019-08-08 10:17:58 southerntofu login: which one? i mean the obvious one is dismantling the industrial capitalist civilization that brought these problems in the first place
+2019-08-08 10:18:04 login i think, as a form of revolt, young people should start demanding being paid in bitcoin
+2019-08-08 10:18:05 southerntofu but maybe you're talking about something else entirely :)
+2019-08-08 10:18:13 southerntofu lol?
+2019-08-08 10:18:30 southerntofu wtf Bitcoin is everything that's wrong with technlogy
+2019-08-08 10:18:36 login that'll be when money won't be able to be used to capture resources and workforce, and will thus be worth less
+2019-08-08 10:18:47 login well then, i guess i'd ask to be paid in gold
+2019-08-08 10:18:52 login and have my salary in grams
+2019-08-08 10:19:05 southerntofu that's still belief in injustice
+2019-08-08 10:19:18 southerntofu if gold is worth something it's because of the richness it conveys
+2019-08-08 10:19:23 login well then, i'll just ask to be paid in barrels of water
+2019-08-08 10:19:30 login (barrels of fresh water)
+2019-08-08 10:19:31 southerntofu if there are no rich and powerful people to make gold worth something, it's just a metal
+2019-08-08 10:19:37 southerntofu sounds more reasonable :P
+2019-08-08 10:19:42 login it's a metal that can't be forged
+2019-08-08 10:19:47 login can be measured for purity easily
+2019-08-08 10:19:56 login is fungible because one can't distinguish gold
+2019-08-08 10:19:57 southerntofu and so what?
+2019-08-08 10:19:59 southerntofu can you eat it?
+2019-08-08 10:20:04 southerntofu does it protect you from the rain?
+2019-08-08 10:20:04 login so it's a good form of money
+2019-08-08 10:20:10 southerntofu does it protect your community from agressions?
+2019-08-08 10:20:14 southerntofu it's just money
+2019-08-08 10:20:17 login in that case, i'd be paid in guns
+2019-08-08 10:20:23 southerntofu money is a tool that was invented to concentrate power
+2019-08-08 10:20:31 southerntofu if we're not getting rid of money we're not changing anything
+2019-08-08 10:20:47 login how do you propose we do things for each other without money?
+2019-08-08 10:20:54 login before money, there was credit
+2019-08-08 10:21:03 login so it would just be ious with the people we trust
+2019-08-08 10:21:16 login each one of us would have to acquaint ourselves with someone who can provide us food
+2019-08-08 10:21:18 southerntofu and before and long after money and credit, there was self-organized benevolant cooperation
+2019-08-08 10:21:21 southerntofu not-for-profit
+2019-08-08 10:21:38 login i'd have to work on a farm
+2019-08-08 10:21:45 login to make food from scratch
+2019-08-08 10:21:50 southerntofu login: you're thinking this from an individualist approach, but the fact is most of humanity is based on communities
+2019-08-08 10:22:09 southerntofu if you're not isolated you're better off
+2019-08-08 10:22:10 login i think every community would come up with a way of recording who owes whom what
+2019-08-08 10:22:27 login either on a large piece of paper or scroll
+2019-08-08 10:22:28 southerntofu sure, if that's our agreement
+2019-08-08 10:22:35 southerntofu but most communities rely on free will and free work
+2019-08-08 10:22:49 southerntofu « from each according to their abilities, to each according to their needs » is an old anarchist principle
+2019-08-08 10:23:19 login the one with the greatest abilities would be giving more than receiving
+2019-08-08 10:23:26 login the ones with the greatest needs would be receiving more than giving
+2019-08-08 10:23:46 southerntofu so what? are you advertising we kill handicapped people like hitler did?
+2019-08-08 10:23:49 login the latter would be economically rational, and the former kind of people would have to be altruistic
+2019-08-08 10:23:57 southerntofu sure thing
+2019-08-08 10:24:12 southerntofu (sorry for the godwin point i was obviously not suggesting that's your position lol)
+2019-08-08 10:24:19 login that's a rather extreme way, because those people didn't have a choice
+2019-08-08 10:24:23 login what's a godwin point?
+2019-08-08 10:24:33 login one evil solution to climate change is thanos's solution lol
+2019-08-08 10:24:48 southerntofu in an argument, mentioning Hitler as the end outcome and main reason not to do something :)
+2019-08-08 10:24:49 login it's not a solution, but only a means of delay
+2019-08-08 10:24:56 southerntofu what is it?
+2019-08-08 10:25:10 login to reduce the human population by 50%
+2019-08-08 10:25:28 login or alternatively, human consumption by 50%
+2019-08-08 10:25:34 southerntofu (but yes altruism is a foundation of every community that strives, capitalist individualism is what destroyed humanity and a million plant/animal species currently facing extinction)
+2019-08-08 10:25:41 southerntofu the latter is way easier
+2019-08-08 10:25:49 southerntofu we've got enough food and space for every one
+2019-08-08 10:26:00 southerntofu even water, if we stop polluting it and using it to produce shit for a minute
+2019-08-08 10:26:06 login but people want large rooms
+2019-08-08 10:26:19 login and yachts
+2019-08-08 10:26:35 login and since the amount of space and food isn't growing, sooner or later
+2019-08-08 10:26:40 southerntofu who? i don't, most people can't even dream of that
+2019-08-08 10:26:53 login but some people dream of it, and fewer obtain it
+2019-08-08 10:26:54 southerntofu the people who do are fucking psychopaths
+2019-08-08 10:27:06 login i mean, who gave them the money to buy the yacht?
+2019-08-08 10:27:10 login we did, right?
+2019-08-08 10:27:14 southerntofu (i mean those who realistically envision their future as such, not those who dream about what they see onTV)
+2019-08-08 10:27:35 login yeah, i wouldn't want a yacht
+2019-08-08 10:27:39 southerntofu sure but if we refused to give them money they would find some other way to consolidate their power
+2019-08-08 10:27:45 login too much maintenance
+2019-08-08 10:27:55 login their power comes from us
+2019-08-08 10:27:55 <-- mhj (mhj@yourtilde.com) has quit (quit: WeeChat 2.5)
+2019-08-08 10:28:01 southerntofu login: it doesn't
+2019-08-08 10:28:11 login money gets created by the banks (97% or so) in the form of loans
+2019-08-08 10:28:14 login who gets those loans?
+2019-08-08 10:28:20 southerntofu it comes from their guns (they own them all) and from the belief in them most people have
+2019-08-08 10:28:32 login wthe belief in their guns?
+2019-08-08 10:28:53 southerntofu the belieft in the oppressors and their power structures i meant sorry
+2019-08-08 10:29:05 southerntofu but mostly guns
+2019-08-08 10:29:13 login the state has fantastic weapons
+2019-08-08 10:29:23 jesopo yo we talkin about how bad the state is
+2019-08-08 10:29:26 login it's straight out of fantasy, the weapons they have
+2019-08-08 10:29:26 jesopo ???
+2019-08-08 10:29:29 southerntofu yes, that's how they can ensure the world stays getting more fucked up everyday :):
+2019-08-08 10:29:41 login we can't take a piece of land and defend it from the state, claiming the land as our own
+2019-08-08 10:29:53 southerntofu jesopo: and private corporations, too. they're made of the same DNA
+2019-08-08 10:30:00 login if one tries to create a good commune, they sabotage it from the inside out
+2019-08-08 10:30:02 younix we should have more services not relying on instant and permanent connectivity, like the DNS and the mail were designed
+2019-08-08 10:30:08 younix ^^
+2019-08-08 10:30:09 login and hollow it out for its riches
+2019-08-08 10:30:24 southerntofu login: even when you buy it they can come and destroy it, and outright kill people just for a mine or a pipeline
+2019-08-08 10:30:34 southerntofu younix: _o/
+2019-08-08 10:30:41 login buy weapons or buy the country?
+2019-08-08 10:30:48 login or buy the piece of land?
+2019-08-08 10:30:58 southerntofu login: from the inside out we're good enough to sabotage ourselves lol, they most times only have to use raw repression
+2019-08-08 10:31:03 southerntofu buy the piece of land
+2019-08-08 10:31:13 younix (but yes altruism is a foundation of every community that strives, capitalist individualism is what destroyed humanity and a million plant/animal species currently facing extinction)
+2019-08-08 10:31:24 login the fact the land is yours is recorded in a register that everybody else believes because of the state's ability to enforce that belief
+2019-08-08 10:31:25 younix I think it's more complicated than that
+2019-08-08 10:31:55 login the altruists should stick together and create their own mini-society
+2019-08-08 10:32:00 younix Human civilizations are like bacterial colonies -- they eat all the resources in an area, then move
+2019-08-08 10:32:03 login and leave the others to compete amongst themselves
+2019-08-08 10:32:14 younix The system of distribution of the resources doesn't seem to matter
+2019-08-08 10:32:23 login The Matrix called humanity a cancer
+2019-08-08 10:32:35 ~tomasino gopher://gopher.black/1/phlog/20180327-distributism
+2019-08-08 10:32:36 southerntofu younix: of course what i said about industrial capitalism is true of any so-called civilization (i.e. empire)
+2019-08-08 10:32:40 younix I'm sure that happened before the matrix too :)
+2019-08-08 10:33:06 login i like all the goods and services available under the capitalist system
+2019-08-08 10:33:11 login as a consumer, capitalism is good fo rme
+2019-08-08 10:33:13 login *for me
+2019-08-08 10:33:24 southerntofu tomasino: sounds like anarchism to me (following the link to gopherpedia)
+2019-08-08 10:33:27 login as someone working for a producer, capitalism is a huge amount of pressure on me to produce things people will want
+2019-08-08 10:33:33 younix southerntofu: I guess we have this empire hierarchy built into our ape firmware
+2019-08-08 10:33:49 southerntofu lol something like that younix XD
+2019-08-08 10:33:51 younix Or it could be a meme
+2019-08-08 10:34:13 login i think an inheritance of above a certain amount is really bad
+2019-08-08 10:34:18 younix A meme exploiting our ape firmware
+2019-08-08 10:34:26 southerntofu well it's a social construct of course that doesn't have to be passed from generation to generation, but the people who don't get exterminated by psychopaths with guns throughout history :-/
+2019-08-08 10:34:29 login there should be a study on the amount of wealth transfered from one generation to another, average and standard deviation
+2019-08-08 10:34:39 login if anything should be redistributed, it should be inheritance
+2019-08-08 10:34:53 younix southerntofu: play the game or die!
+2019-08-08 10:34:57 * krowbar waves on entry then lurks for the conversation
+2019-08-08 10:35:00 southerntofu login: do you think you would have the same relationship to those products and services if all the pollution and slavery took place in your neighboorhood?
+2019-08-08 10:35:10 southerntofu hey krowbar
+2019-08-08 10:35:11 login no, i wouldn't
+2019-08-08 10:35:20 younix Hi krowbar
+2019-08-08 10:35:30 krowbar this backlog is pretty intense
+2019-08-08 10:35:37 krowbar have any ducks flown by?
+2019-08-08 10:35:42 login ,bef
+2019-08-08 10:35:43 BitBot [Ducks] login: There was no duck!
+2019-08-08 10:35:50 login had to try to top the 2 hour duck
+2019-08-08 10:36:14 younix There's always a duck
+2019-08-08 10:36:32 younix Do more fly by if you're friendly to them?
+2019-08-08 10:36:33 krowbar speaking of ducks, there was a Duck Hunt player in the top8 at Evo for Smash Bros Ultimate this year
+2019-08-08 10:36:48 ~tomasino duck related (from this morning) https://quotes.tilde.chat/quote/165
+2019-08-08 10:36:49 southerntofu login: i think if we had chemical lakes, electrinic waste dumps here in the western world, and if the slaves working the mines and the factories were our cousins and neighbors, i'm CONVINCED we wouldn't see hardware the same way, and change in production methods would occur pretty quickly
+2019-08-08 10:36:50 BitBot [Title] ~chat IRC quote database - quote 165 - https://ttm.sh/B8
+2019-08-08 10:37:52 login why doesn't that happen in china then?
+2019-08-08 10:37:53 younix southerntofu: in Europe that would probably happen, but the US is big enough that you could still have all those things and people would be too separated to notice
+2019-08-08 10:38:03 login is it that everyone in china wants to get out of china and settle in western countries?
+2019-08-08 10:38:25 younix Didn't the UN determine that parts of the US were considered 3rd world?
+2019-08-08 10:38:33 krowbar tomasino: oh nice! a quote db! i used to read some of those online but they got rather vile after a while
+2019-08-08 10:38:39 younix Places where the plague had returned
+2019-08-08 10:38:39 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-08 10:38:41 ~tomasino ,hug
+2019-08-08 10:38:41 BitBot [Ducks] tomasino befriended a duck in 2.29 seconds! You've befriended 16 ducks in #meta!
+2019-08-08 10:38:42 krowbar ,bef
+2019-08-08 10:38:42 BitBot [Ducks] krowbar: There was no duck!
+2019-08-08 10:38:44 ~tomasino muahahahaha!
+2019-08-08 10:38:46 krowbar NO!~
+2019-08-08 10:38:51 * tomasino shares with krowbar
+2019-08-08 10:38:58 * krowbar takes half the duck?
+2019-08-08 10:39:03 ~tomasino works for me!
+2019-08-08 10:39:07 login which half?
+2019-08-08 10:39:09 ~tomasino you can have the front half
+2019-08-08 10:39:21 younix ...to pet?
+2019-08-08 10:39:25 login but isn't front half worth more than the back half?
+2019-08-08 10:39:29 krowbar the harvey dent half
+2019-08-08 10:39:37 login who's harvey dent?
+2019-08-08 10:39:38 ~tomasino maybe the top half then?
+2019-08-08 10:39:42 ~tomasino he's 2-face
+2019-08-08 10:39:48 dozens he's the joker
+2019-08-08 10:40:05 krowbar ooh, the wiki! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-Face
+2019-08-08 10:40:07 BitBot [Title] Two-Face - Wikipedia - https://ttm.sh/BX
+2019-08-08 10:40:09 login but isn't the top half worth less than the bottom half?
+2019-08-08 10:40:22 younix Stop trying to determine the monetary value of your friend
+2019-08-08 10:40:31 ~tomasino hrm, i'll do what i do with kids. One person cuts in half, the other chooses the half they want
+2019-08-08 10:40:36 login southerntofu: you'll be disappointed to know that it was i who created a pseudocurrency for tilde.town
+2019-08-08 10:40:47 krowbar tomasino: you cut your kids in half?
+2019-08-08 10:40:53 ~tomasino twice the fun!
+2019-08-08 10:41:12 smore double the trouble
+2019-08-08 10:41:26 login thus bringing the cancer of capitalism to the benevolent community that's tilde.town
+2019-08-08 10:41:42 ~ben cryptocurrencies--
+2019-08-08 10:41:42 BitBot [Karma] cryptocurrencies now has -5 karma
+2019-08-08 10:41:43 ~tomasino ,duckstats
+2019-08-08 10:41:44 BitBot [Ducks] tomasino has befriended 16 and trapped 0 ducks (16/0 in #meta)
+2019-08-08 10:41:48 ~ben nice job tomasino
+2019-08-08 10:41:51 ~ben gud ducc fren
+2019-08-08 10:42:00 ~tomasino thanks ben! you saw my 10+hour duck?
+2019-08-08 10:42:09 login no way there's a 10+ hour duck!
+2019-08-08 10:42:15 login you got 10+ hours on a duck?
+2019-08-08 10:42:17 younix social currency++
+2019-08-08 10:42:18 BitBot [Karma] social currency now has 1 karma
+2019-08-08 10:42:30 ~tomasino https://quotes.tilde.chat/quote/165 login
+2019-08-08 10:42:31 BitBot [Title] ~chat IRC quote database - quote 165 - https://ttm.sh/B8
+2019-08-08 10:42:35 ~ben lol ya i saw that (´・ω・`)
+2019-08-08 10:42:39 younix duck friend currency++
+2019-08-08 10:42:39 BitBot [Karma] duck friend currency now has 1 karma
+2019-08-08 10:42:39 ~ben best ducc fren
+2019-08-08 10:42:41 login social currency is that where one does thing for another out of gratitude right?
+2019-08-08 10:42:44 ~ben capitalism--
+2019-08-08 10:42:44 BitBot [Karma] capitalism now has -49 karma
+2019-08-08 10:42:50 ~tomasino capitalism--
+2019-08-08 10:42:50 BitBot [Karma] capitalism now has -50 karma
+2019-08-08 10:42:52 ~tomasino distributism++
+2019-08-08 10:42:53 BitBot [Karma] Try again in a couple of seconds
+2019-08-08 10:42:53 ~ben quotes.tilde.chat is nice
+2019-08-08 10:42:58 ~tomasino distributism++
+2019-08-08 10:42:59 BitBot [Karma] distributism now has 1 karma
+2019-08-08 10:43:00 login without any hard measurement of value exchanged
+2019-08-08 10:43:06 younix kapitalism++
+2019-08-08 10:43:06 BitBot [Karma] kapitalism now has 1 karma
+2019-08-08 10:43:17 login almost like "i did this for you because you're my friend"
+2019-08-08 10:43:37 login omg, the thing i thought was two hours was actually 10 hours?
+2019-08-08 10:43:39 ~ben i do stuff for friends all the time
+2019-08-08 10:43:41 login what a legend
+2019-08-08 10:43:49 southerntofu login: i don't know about that one it may be very interesting? :D
+2019-08-08 10:43:54 login stuff like that can't be weighed monetarily
+2019-08-08 10:44:07 login doing stuff for friends
+2019-08-08 10:44:09 younix Ben you are a good dude
+2019-08-08 10:44:10 krowbar younix: thx
+2019-08-08 10:44:15 ~tomasino friends++
+2019-08-08 10:44:16 BitBot [Karma] friends now has 1 karma
+2019-08-08 10:44:28 login being a good dude makes people give you money
+2019-08-08 10:44:36 login because they believe you'll spend it well
+2019-08-08 10:44:36 southerntofu also in this bullshit capitalist world we do need some money to survive so i understand the need to organize collectively around money issues
+2019-08-08 10:44:36 younix fri ends++
+2019-08-08 10:44:37 BitBot [Karma] fri ends now has 1 karma
+2019-08-08 10:44:42 login and for everyone's betterment
+2019-08-08 10:44:44 jahnertz okey, regarding chemical lakes and electronic waste dumps, I think most would be surprised by the apathy toward this by both rich and poor in the places where they exist. It's only when it's used as a political issue does anyone get passionate.
+2019-08-08 10:45:19 younix People being poisoned by them might care
+2019-08-08 10:45:23 login In that case, the media's ability to shape public opinion is underrated
+2019-08-08 10:45:27 jahnertz you'd think
+2019-08-08 10:45:30 southerntofu jahnertz: i wouldn't know, i've never been in china, but from what i can see over here there seems to be way more social change taking place over there (like when the situation was similar in US/Europe a century ago)
+2019-08-08 10:45:30 login they might care if they're alive
+2019-08-08 10:45:41 login and if they aren't lied to about why they died
+2019-08-08 10:45:51 younix jahnertz: are you sure they don't care? or are they just unable to speak about it?
+2019-08-08 10:45:55 southerntofu i mean there's shittons of riots and protests and sabotage and strikes in China
+2019-08-08 10:46:00 southerntofu but most media don't talk about it
+2019-08-08 10:46:04 login china is closer to socialism than many places
+2019-08-08 10:46:31 login yet china is also hypercapitalist, with all kinds of regulatory capture
+2019-08-08 10:46:35 younix jahnertz: when people are powerless they don't have much of a voice
+2019-08-08 10:46:48 jahnertz but if you don't educate people and suppress statistics of this, then you can control outrage and use it politically
+2019-08-08 10:47:16 southerntofu jahnertz: which is what silicon valley and imperial powers have been doin for the past 40 years
+2019-08-08 10:47:41 login I read this quip by someone in a youtube comment
+2019-08-08 10:47:41 ~ben yup :<
+2019-08-08 10:47:55 southerntofu slowly and quietly we went from human-friendly computers one could build in their garage to patent-ridden death-in-a-box
+2019-08-08 10:47:59 login britain divided the indian subcontinent into india and pakistan in 2 months
+2019-08-08 10:48:08 jahnertz siy *the first world *since longer that that
+2019-08-08 10:48:12 login and now, when it's time for them to leave the eu, they can't do it in 2 years
+2019-08-08 10:48:17 younix jahnertz: how are statistics suppressed?
+2019-08-08 10:48:38 login digital rights management :)
+2019-08-08 10:48:45 login i can't even screenshot netflix
+2019-08-08 10:48:51 login imagine if this tech was available to everybody
+2019-08-08 10:49:05 jahnertz philippines is the #1 most deadly place for human rights workers in the world
+2019-08-08 10:49:06 southerntofu younix: do you often hear about pollution stats and how the industry and not the consumers are responsible for destryoing the planet? they exist, just not on TV
+2019-08-08 10:49:12 login it would be great for those who trade videos for money
+2019-08-08 10:49:16 login and don't want those videos spread around
+2019-08-08 10:49:28 jahnertz and very far down the list for freedom of the press
+2019-08-08 10:49:29 login funny thing is, movies from netflix come out in stellar quality anyway
+2019-08-08 10:49:37 younix login: that's because Russia convinced a subset of the population to leave the EU, and the UK is trying to being the population back together
+2019-08-08 10:49:57 southerntofu lol
+2019-08-08 10:49:58 younix Probably took Russia 2 months
+2019-08-08 10:50:04 jahnertz it's not difficult for unfavourable stats to be supressed here.
+2019-08-08 10:50:10 login Ukraine wanted to join the EU
+2019-08-08 10:50:10 southerntofu many people hate the EU for good and bad reasons
+2019-08-08 10:50:15 southerntofu nothing to do with Russia
+2019-08-08 10:50:19 login so Russia just cut it in half like the duck
+2019-08-08 10:50:37 younix Not half
+2019-08-08 10:50:40 login russia cut ukraine, and i don't know who chose which part to keep
+2019-08-08 10:50:41 younix They took a foot
+2019-08-08 10:50:42 southerntofu i mean some people hate EU for racist reasons, but some hate it because they hate central institutions and want to decentralize everything
+2019-08-08 10:50:51 younix But it was an important foot
+2019-08-08 10:51:08 login gas pipeline foot
+2019-08-08 10:51:25 younix Naval base foot
+2019-08-08 10:51:28 login central institutions governing multiple countries are difficult
+2019-08-08 10:51:36 login i didn't know there was a naval base there
+2019-08-08 10:51:43 login if ukraine had nuclear weapons, this would never have happened
+2019-08-08 10:51:52 southerntofu lol..
+2019-08-08 10:52:00 login they gave up their nuclear weapons and signed a treaty with russia, china and the us
+2019-08-08 10:52:17 login and there's a clause there about not annexing any ukrainian territory
+2019-08-08 10:52:24 login i.e., russia violated that treaty
+2019-08-08 10:52:32 younix southerntofu: so the statistics are suppressed by corporations not funding the TV stations which report them?
+2019-08-08 10:52:35 login calculating that ukraine wouldn't do anything
+2019-08-08 10:53:03 younix Crimea had a lot of military stuff on it
+2019-08-08 10:53:04 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-08 10:53:07 login there's a huge incentive to only measure those things which show a good picture
+2019-08-08 10:53:10 jahnertz ,bef
+2019-08-08 10:53:11 BitBot [Ducks] jahnertz befriended a duck in 7.1 seconds! You've befriended 1 duck in #meta!
+2019-08-08 10:53:14 southerntofu younix: by corporations OWNING the media (literally) and firing journalists who do their work
+2019-08-08 10:53:17 login so the methodology ends up being one that shows them in the best light
+2019-08-08 10:53:19 --> adium_ [adium] (adium) (~adium@187.181.130.100) has joined #meta
+2019-08-08 10:53:23 login almost subconsciously
+2019-08-08 10:53:25 login wlecome adium_
+2019-08-08 10:53:29 login how are you
+2019-08-08 10:53:35 southerntofu at least that's the situation in france that independant media can be counted on one hand and willnever be advertized on other media
+2019-08-08 10:53:41 adium_ not good, login
+2019-08-08 10:53:45 adium_ internet is dying on me :/
+2019-08-08 10:53:58 login i'm sorry to hear that
+2019-08-08 10:54:06 adium_ but it could be worse
+2019-08-08 10:54:08 adium_ how about u?
+2019-08-08 10:54:12 login would you pay independent media?
+2019-08-08 10:54:18 login i'm doing alright, procrastinating right now
+2019-08-08 10:54:26 younix southerntofu: heh... I remember when TV used to do things to not piss off advertisers... Now it's too not piss off their bosses
+2019-08-08 10:54:38 adium_ what do u mean "independent media"?
+2019-08-08 10:54:53 younix I pay Wikipedia
+2019-08-08 10:54:57 --> ctl (Unknown) (ctl@yourtilde.com) has joined #meta
+2019-08-08 10:55:07 younix They're pretty independent
+2019-08-08 10:55:10 adium_ sometimes i donate do wikipedia, firefox and other non-profits
+2019-08-08 10:55:14 adium_ mozilla*
+2019-08-08 10:55:33 younix Firefox: the only Mozilla thing that matters
+2019-08-08 10:55:41 younix Besides rust
+2019-08-08 10:56:42 <-- adium (~adium@187.181.130.100) has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds)
+2019-08-08 10:57:27 younix southerntofu: anyhow, the statistics are not being suppressed from their source, just not publicized
+2019-08-08 10:57:46 southerntofu precisely, information distriution is controled and centralized around a few big industrial actors
+2019-08-08 10:57:55 younix It would be much worse if the information itself was being held back
+2019-08-08 10:58:24 younix Like when Harper destroyed Canadian scientists' huge archive of climate change data
+2019-08-08 10:59:26 younix southerntofu: news is information popularization, not really distribution
+2019-08-08 10:59:37 younix Is access being tightly controlled as well?
+2019-08-08 10:59:51 login there's wikinews too
+2019-08-08 11:00:11 login decentralised information = far right websites
+2019-08-08 11:00:22 younix Hah
+2019-08-08 11:00:22 southerntofu well once it's produced it's harder to prevent release, but there's also efforts to prevent data from eing collected and reports being reported (activists/journalists arrested or murdered)
+2019-08-08 11:00:22 login environmental terrorism
+2019-08-08 11:00:27 login nazi sympathisers etc.
+2019-08-08 11:00:36 southerntofu login: it doesn't have to be
+2019-08-08 11:00:44 login Harper did that?
+2019-08-08 11:00:48 login wtf
+2019-08-08 11:01:01 younix southerntofu: a lot of data comes from scientists and government statistics
+2019-08-08 11:01:17 younix Journalists aren't usually doing scientific studies themselves
+2019-08-08 11:01:31 login journalists are copying from newswires
+2019-08-08 11:01:38 login and newswires are becoming less staffed
+2019-08-08 11:01:49 younix That's not journalism :)
+2019-08-08 11:02:01 login difference between news and journalism?
+2019-08-08 11:02:05 southerntofu younix: see pollution/radiation stats gathered by activists in many places that private security forces and police try to prevent, and never get any attention
+2019-08-08 11:02:08 younix ,dictionary journalism
+2019-08-08 11:02:08 BitBot younix: Unknown command. Did you mean ,urbandictionary?
+2019-08-08 11:02:10 southerntofu login: something like that
+2019-08-08 11:02:59 younix login: journalists research things over long periods, which takes a lot of time and effort
+2019-08-08 11:03:27 southerntofu tomasino: so a branch of christian anarchism is distributism, correct?
+2019-08-08 11:03:28 younix Their stories can take years
+2019-08-08 11:03:49 southerntofu (it's weird how the article spits on socialism claiming it's a state-based construct necessarily)
+2019-08-08 11:03:55 younix A very tiny sliver of the news agencies are doing journalism
+2019-08-08 11:04:13 login how are they getting paid?
+2019-08-08 11:04:24 southerntofu login: through subscriptions or fundraisers
+2019-08-08 11:04:30 younix southerntofu: ah, so citizen scientists
+2019-08-08 11:04:31 login or are they doing journalism on topics orthogonal to their owner's interests?
+2019-08-08 11:04:42 southerntofu like Mediapart, the only nationwide generalist independant media relies on subscription (here in france)
+2019-08-08 11:04:53 login and the hope is, enough entities own media orgs so that the media as a whole covers everyone
+2019-08-08 11:05:01 login instead, what happens is collusion
+2019-08-08 11:05:03 login to suppress info
+2019-08-08 11:05:04 southerntofu younix: there's many of those, most journalism work is done by enthusiasts
+2019-08-08 11:05:21 login What about The Guardian?
+2019-08-08 11:05:56 southerntofu login: here in france this is the map of who owns the media: https://www.acrimed.org/IMG/png/ppav14-1.png
+2019-08-08 11:06:05 southerntofu (maintained y an association of critical journalists)
+2019-08-08 11:06:11 younix southerntofu: do the enthusiasts end up handing it off to large news organizations?
+2019-08-08 11:06:25 southerntofu younix: when they can, which is rare
+2019-08-08 11:06:30 southerntofu only when it serves higher interests, usually
+2019-08-08 11:07:00 southerntofu like when police abuse suddenly gets international attention then all media compete to get fresh images and reports on the news, but all yea long they don't care
+2019-08-08 11:07:32 younix Lol
+2019-08-08 11:07:43 younix Why would you report something that everybody else is
+2019-08-08 11:07:45 -- adium_ is now known as adium
+2019-08-08 11:08:09 southerntofu or like the recent water radiation scandal here in France, the measured doses are far from unusual but for once the bottled water industry thought it would be good for them, especially with the heatwave, so their all networks relayed the news
+2019-08-08 11:08:20 younix I guess the readers get all frenzied up and want to read about that topic, whose information gets trickled out over weeks?
+2019-08-08 11:08:21 southerntofu and made it look like like the public water was undrinkable (an utter lie!)
+2019-08-08 11:08:52 younix Ouch
+2019-08-08 11:09:17 younix News = PR 80% of the time
+2019-08-08 11:09:26 <-- Wallet (~Wallet@one.dime) has quit (quit: Leaving)
+2019-08-08 11:10:10 younix BTW, I discovered a great podcast with high quality information recently: the Ralph Nader radio hour
+2019-08-08 11:10:32 login what about counter news?
+2019-08-08 11:10:47 younix Amazing guests
+2019-08-08 11:10:50 login thre will also be some news about bottled water being just pubilc water?
+2019-08-08 11:10:59 login Who's Ralph Nader?
+2019-08-08 11:11:15 younix Nader is ancient and still sharp as a tack
+2019-08-08 11:11:24 younix Google him login
+2019-08-08 11:12:21 younix He's the reason seatbelts and the EPA exist
+2019-08-08 11:12:29 login podcast at 85
+2019-08-08 11:12:36 login what a guy
+2019-08-08 11:13:02 southerntofu well there's https://raddle.me in the english speaking world
+2019-08-08 11:13:02 ~ben another great podcast is anthropocene reviewed
+2019-08-08 11:13:05 younix He's a machine
+2019-08-08 11:13:06 BitBot [Title] Raddle - https://raddle.me
+2019-08-08 11:13:17 younix ben: nice
+2019-08-08 11:13:20 southerntofu and https://mediaslibres.org in the french speaking world
+2019-08-08 11:13:22 BitBot [Title] [Sedna RSS] Médias libres - https://ttm.sh/BV
+2019-08-08 11:13:52 southerntofu that one is an RSS aggregator gatherine several local self-organized information coops
+2019-08-08 11:14:45 southerntofu they're based on spip patched so authorship information is only used during moderation and then erased
+2019-08-08 11:14:49 southerntofu (or something around those lines)
+2019-08-08 11:15:01 southerntofu https://iaata.info is an example of that
+2019-08-08 11:15:05 BitBot [Title] IAATA - Information Anti Autoritaire Toulouse et Alentours - https://ttm.sh/Bx
+2019-08-08 11:15:16 southerntofu such information coops are really interesting but they should really be federated
+2019-08-08 11:15:21 younix You French are such skilled revolutionaries
+2019-08-08 11:15:51 southerntofu some of us are just dedicated and organized
+2019-08-08 11:15:54 southerntofu but never enough :)
+2019-08-08 11:16:10 younix I think it's a culture thing
+2019-08-08 11:16:16 southerntofu just wait till you hear about self-organized ISP federation or the autonomous hosting coops federation :D
+2019-08-08 11:16:32 younix Nice
+2019-08-08 11:16:39 southerntofu younix: it's not, we're a minority here too (french culture is imperialist consumerist culture)
+2019-08-08 11:17:07 login 1789
+2019-08-08 11:17:10 southerntofu just like in the US many people do that in their corner, they're just not really federated
+2019-08-08 11:17:18 younix Yeah, but your minority seems to be greater than other countries' minorities
+2019-08-08 11:17:42 younix The yellow vests thing was huge
+2019-08-08 11:17:47 southerntofu login: 1789 was captured by the bourgeoisie to standardize elections as a means to prevent democracy
+2019-08-08 11:18:12 southerntofu younix: it's really not bigger, just more dedicated
+2019-08-08 11:18:34 login but marie antoinette and antoine lavoisier were beheaded
+2019-08-08 11:18:42 southerntofu i mean most yellow vests are new to the whole social struggle thing :)
+2019-08-08 11:19:14 southerntofu login: sure and so what? many people get beheaded everyday does that mean power structures change in a meaningful way?
+2019-08-08 11:19:49 southerntofu as long as the structures don't change nothing can change
+2019-08-08 11:19:51 younix southerntofu: so, culture then?
+2019-08-08 11:19:54 login there was a reign of terror after that
+2019-08-08 11:20:14 southerntofu we could take the 500 best persons among us and make a popular parliament, we wouldn't come up with a better alternative
+2019-08-08 11:20:14 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-08 11:20:16 login m na
+2019-08-08 11:20:19 ~ben ,bef
+2019-08-08 11:20:19 BitBot [Ducks] ben befriended a duck in 4.74 seconds! You've befriended 121 ducks in #meta!
+2019-08-08 11:20:22 login ,trap
+2019-08-08 11:20:23 BitBot [Ducks] login: There was no duck!
+2019-08-08 11:20:48 southerntofu because ultimately only the persons directly concerned by a situation can address it, in the most local way
+2019-08-08 11:21:01 southerntofu there is no way even the 1000 best persons on earth could find solutions for **everyone**
+2019-08-08 11:21:13 southerntofu this is another basic principles of anarchism
+2019-08-08 11:21:19 younix southerntofu: a Parliament that isn't made of stooges would be a big improvement though
+2019-08-08 11:21:42 southerntofu a less-terrible status quo, probably
+2019-08-08 11:21:44 younix Imagine if Parliament was chosen by a random number generator
+2019-08-08 11:21:46 southerntofu but a profound change?
+2019-08-08 11:22:03 southerntofu younix: some peoplle advertize for this, but this is the opposite of democracy
+2019-08-08 11:22:03 younix Like jury duty
+2019-08-08 11:22:33 southerntofu democracy is decentrailzation of power, the right to individual and collective autonomy
+2019-08-08 11:22:57 younix I suppose whoever maintained the system would have undue control over it, even if the people in it were random
+2019-08-08 11:22:58 southerntofu randomized parliament leads (mathematically) to a dictatorship of the majority (the social-democrat dream)
+2019-08-08 11:23:23 younix Hmm
+2019-08-08 11:23:28 southerntofu to me democracy is about destroying homogeneity
+2019-08-08 11:23:39 southerntofu there's not a single dogma/way to be just in life
+2019-08-08 11:23:52 southerntofu each community/person has got to find theirs
+2019-08-08 11:23:57 younix You think in a random sample there wouldn't be diversity?
+2019-08-08 11:24:13 southerntofu and it's an everyday struggle of critical relationship to your surroundings and to your own behaviour
+2019-08-08 11:25:00 southerntofu younix: should a minority of homosexuals be repressed because a majority (randomly-chosen) of heteroseuals think it should be illegal?
+2019-08-08 11:25:32 southerntofu central power structures necessarily lead to dictatorship and injustice
+2019-08-08 11:25:46 ~tomasino i'm not sure how democracy destroys homogeneity
+2019-08-08 11:26:03 younix But there would be some gay people in the random sample, and they could convince the others though argument that they should be treated fairly
+2019-08-08 11:26:20 southerntofu tomasino: to me democracy is synonymous (or parallel if you like) to autonomy
+2019-08-08 11:26:26 younix The homophobes would also be a minority in a random sample
+2019-08-08 11:26:33 threv uh
+2019-08-08 11:26:43 ~tomasino i like the ideas your saying, but i don't think democracy in any way equals those ideas
+2019-08-08 11:26:56 southerntofu younix: oppressors as a group cannot be convinced. individuals can feel empathy, but as a group they necessarily protect their interests
+2019-08-08 11:26:57 ~tomasino democracy does not grant autonomy
+2019-08-08 11:27:21 younix southerntofu: oppressors are artificial usually
+2019-08-08 11:27:21 threv these takes are burning my face
+2019-08-08 11:27:35 ~tomasino democracy is either direct, where each individual gets to vote on an issue that will be decided by a majority, or it's representational where pretty much the same thing happens but with more special interest
+2019-08-08 11:27:40 southerntofu « The coming change can only come through a revolution, because the possessing class will not allow a peaceful change to take place; still we are willing to work for peace at any price, except at the price of liberty. » Lucy Parsons, more than a century ago
+2019-08-08 11:27:53 threv that has nothing to do with democracy tho
+2019-08-08 11:28:01 younix southerntofu: they were duped by clever rhetoric, and can be unduped
+2019-08-08 11:28:08 southerntofu tomasino: concensus and consent-based forms of organizing are also forms of democracy
+2019-08-08 11:28:29 ~tomasino how does concensus equate to autonomy
+2019-08-08 11:28:35 threv yeah none of this makes sense
+2019-08-08 11:29:02 southerntofu consensus means rules are enforced only if everybody agrees on them
+2019-08-08 11:29:17 southerntofu autonomy means the capacity to shape your ways/structures
+2019-08-08 11:29:34 southerntofu i'd say they play well together
+2019-08-08 11:29:52 younix threv: lol @ faceburn
+2019-08-08 11:30:05 southerntofu i've been living in consensus-based communities for many years and we're mostly doing fine :)
+2019-08-08 11:30:12 southerntofu at least comparatively to what's around lol
+2019-08-08 11:30:30 threv the plural of anecdote is not data
+2019-08-08 11:30:42 younix faceburn.com: only hot takes
+2019-08-08 11:30:44 ~tomasino consensus means an agreement reached by a group as a whole. It doesn't mean enforcement is hampered because of dessent
+2019-08-08 11:31:01 ~tomasino and democratic governments don't work by consensus anyway
+2019-08-08 11:31:08 ~tomasino they work by majority
+2019-08-08 11:31:09 threv younix: haha
+2019-08-08 11:31:10 southerntofu well repulican governments don't
+2019-08-08 11:31:23 southerntofu but most republics are not democracies (even though they claim)
+2019-08-08 11:31:36 southerntofu they're just systems designed so that people can chose their masters every few years, but don't get a say in anything
+2019-08-08 11:32:13 ~tomasino in a system of direct democracy, consensus would be utterly impossible
+2019-08-08 11:32:15 younix A test of a decision making system is when it has to make hard choices, like who lives or dies
+2019-08-08 11:32:38 southerntofu (anyway i'll have to go soon, we have a hackerspace to build :D)
+2019-08-08 11:33:00 ~tomasino have fun! hackerspaces are great
+2019-08-08 11:33:02 southerntofu tomasino: depends on the context
+2019-08-08 11:33:13 threv o_O
+2019-08-08 11:33:20 southerntofu of course consensus by all on every topic on a large scale is impossible :)
+2019-08-08 11:33:28 ~tomasino i think your ideals are great. think democracy is ridiculous. giving decisions to more people doesn't make for better decisions
+2019-08-08 11:34:00 login what about the wisdom of the crowds
+2019-08-08 11:34:18 login you ask both what the best decision, and what you think others' best decision is
+2019-08-08 11:34:24 southerntofu tomasino: in my eperience it does, i'm sorry for you if it hasn't in your past
+2019-08-08 11:34:44 younix login: they've done research into crowd wisdom; it turns out that there are experts in the crowd, and the crowd defers to them
+2019-08-08 11:34:52 login and choose the surprisingly popular option
+2019-08-08 11:35:12 threv yeah that's exactly right younix
+2019-08-08 11:35:13 southerntofu but i would advise you take a look at the very concrete case of the self-administration of rojava in Kurdistan
+2019-08-08 11:35:13 login that's the whole purpose of asking the crowd
+2019-08-08 11:35:20 threv oh lord
+2019-08-08 11:35:27 login each decision will have its own experts that have to be discovered, and it's not the same people for every decision
+2019-08-08 11:35:35 threv that's what democracy IS
+2019-08-08 11:35:37 threv self administration
+2019-08-08 11:35:41 threv by definition
+2019-08-08 11:35:58 southerntofu there's a lot of propaganda around and power games because it's a war, but there's interesting concepts behind this "democratic confederalism"
+2019-08-08 11:35:59 login i think they mean the different kinds of democracy
+2019-08-08 11:36:06 login representative democracy v direct democracy
+2019-08-08 11:36:26 southerntofu threv: no, ISIS is a State with centralized infrastructures (tribunals/police/administration)
+2019-08-08 11:36:27 login make afghanistan great again
+2019-08-08 11:36:32 login only then can america exit
+2019-08-08 11:36:40 threv who said anything about ISIS!?
+2019-08-08 11:36:47 login so the country afghanistan has something to lose by going back
+2019-08-08 11:36:51 southerntofu woops sorry i thought you said that lol
+2019-08-08 11:37:03 login currently, there's not much to lose and a lot to gain for whoever wins by going back
+2019-08-08 11:37:19 login after afghanistan becomes great, everybody would lose by going back (some would lose more than others)
+2019-08-08 11:37:30 login so there's incentive to maintain greatness
+2019-08-08 11:37:43 login and try to get a larger share of the pie without reducing the size of th epie
+2019-08-08 11:37:44 younix Repressitive democracy
+2019-08-08 11:37:45 login *the pie
+2019-08-08 11:38:08 southerntofu anyway have fun, friendly people
+2019-08-08 11:38:17 ~tomasino i've gotta get back to work, but here's some good reading: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_democracy
+2019-08-08 11:38:18 BitBot [Title] Criticism of democracy - Wikipedia - https://ttm.sh/B-
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+2019-08-08 11:38:31 login i idn't even know such a wikipedia page existed
+2019-08-08 11:38:33 southerntofu hope next time we can talk about more concrete projects to practice democracy within the tildeverse ;)
+2019-08-08 11:38:36 login wikipedia is such a useful website
+2019-08-08 11:38:36 younix threv: thank you for being a balancing force
+2019-08-08 11:38:52 login one dollar donation = 1 vote
+2019-08-08 11:38:55 login can't be fairer than that
+2019-08-08 11:38:57 threv no sweat :)
+2019-08-08 11:39:07 threv heh
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+2019-08-08 11:39:24 login you can't tell if i'm being satirical or not, right?
+2019-08-08 11:39:49 login if so, it means the idea is not as well-settled as assumed
+2019-08-08 11:40:01 threv nah i see what you're saying
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+2019-08-08 11:49:32 younix [Ralph Nader Radio Hour] Thom Hartmann: How To Handle Trump
+2019-08-08 11:49:34 younix http://podplayer.net/?id=76401117
+2019-08-08 11:49:35 BitBot [Title] Podplayer - Podcast Addict web player - https://ttm.sh/ID
+2019-08-08 11:49:49 younix Great episode
+2019-08-08 11:49:49 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-08 11:49:56 younix ,bef
+2019-08-08 11:49:57 BitBot [Ducks] younix befriended a duck in 7.12 seconds! You've befriended 7 ducks in #meta!
+2019-08-08 11:52:59 younix "The last time I checked, democracy was not about just lots and lots of individuals communicating with each other -- that's a naive idea of democracy which we suffer from at the moment -- democracy is about negotiating between the powerless (or less powerful), and the strong vested interests (who often use their unequal access to power to their own advantage at the expense of the weak). What
+2019-08-08 11:53:00 younix democracy is about is electing people who will stand up and represent you -- the weak -- and negotiate against the powerful. In the West, power is becoming more and more concentrated and more unequal."
+2019-08-08 11:53:02 younix -- Adam Curtis
+2019-08-08 11:53:44 login concentration and unequal power is not bad as long as it is benevolent
+2019-08-08 11:53:55 login *to everyone it considers human
+2019-08-08 11:54:04 login problem is, they don't consider everyone human
+2019-08-08 11:54:10 login about half are deplorables
+2019-08-08 11:54:36 login i think you'd appreciate the twist in that last sentence
+2019-08-08 11:55:01 login where it feels like i was talking about one person, and then suddenly you're not so sure
+2019-08-08 11:55:27 login i think lawrence lessig should have become president, should have enacted campaign reform, then resigned
+2019-08-08 11:55:38 login but he was blocked from the democratic debates lol
+2019-08-08 11:56:35 threv hoo boy
+2019-08-08 11:58:15 echelon shit gettin spicy for #meta
+2019-08-08 11:58:19 echelon might have to move to #politics
+2019-08-08 11:58:22 echelon 9.9
+2019-08-08 11:59:41 younix Haha
+2019-08-08 12:00:12 login i don't wish to discuss it further
+2019-08-08 12:00:24 login i'm not in the us, and don't care who gets elected
+2019-08-08 12:00:33 login as long as they don't send their world police here
+2019-08-08 12:01:25 echelon oh that statement was dripping with sarcasm
+2019-08-08 12:01:38 echelon i hate the idea of separate channels for 'spicy' topics but i don't run things around here soooooo
+2019-08-08 12:01:45 echelon login we good G
+2019-08-08 12:02:16 login G = Google now
+2019-08-08 12:02:27 login google has trademarked the capital letter G
+2019-08-08 12:02:30 login it's on their logo
+2019-08-08 12:02:39 login so we can't use it on its own
+2019-08-08 12:02:59 younix https://bhh.sh/5jd
+2019-08-08 12:03:01 BitBot [Title] PrivateBin - https://ttm.sh/IE
+2019-08-08 12:03:26 younix ^ global perspective
+2019-08-08 12:05:53 threv o_O
+2019-08-08 12:07:31 younix Get ready to rumble
+2019-08-08 12:07:31 login check it out, Prime Minister of Pakistan makes the "it's" "its" mistake
+2019-08-08 12:07:33 login https://twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI/status/1157963118565310464
+2019-08-08 12:07:36 BitBot [Title] Imran Khan on Twitter: "I condemn India's attack across LOC on innocent civilians & it's use of cluster munitions in violation of int humanitarian law and it's own commitments under the 1983 Convention on Certain Conventional Weapons. UNSC must take note of this international threat to peace & security." - https://ttm.sh/IQ
+2019-08-08 12:07:56 younix I will not
+2019-08-08 12:08:23 younix I will focus on substance
+2019-08-08 12:08:27 login well, BitBot will show you
+2019-08-08 12:09:34 login pakistan's prime minister is more diplomatic than india's prime minister (the latter has started taking controverial decisions)
+2019-08-08 12:10:10 login it's the same as China reneging on the 2047 agreement with Hong Kong and integrating it by Chinese law
+2019-08-08 12:10:17 login *by amending Chinese law
+2019-08-08 12:10:33 login it's just that in Hong Kong's case, the country that made the agreement still exists
+2019-08-08 12:10:47 login in Kashmir's case, the king that made the agreement is dead
+2019-08-08 12:11:08 login and there's nobody to cry foul if the agreement is reneged on, other than the people whom the agreement affects (people in Kashmir)
+2019-08-08 12:11:52 login who are currently subjected to a communications blackout, with regional leaders under house arrest and tourists and pilgrims asked (*very* politely ;)) to leave the area
+2019-08-08 12:11:54 login for the time being
+2019-08-08 12:12:27 login What China couldn't do with Hong Kong, India has done with Kashmir, so it knows China can't say no to it in the Security Council without making its own case with Hong Kong harder
+2019-08-08 12:12:38 login so it was the right time, internationally, to do this, so it was done
+2019-08-08 12:12:50 login i promised not to talk about all this further, i'll truly stop now
+2019-08-08 12:13:02 login (everything above is speculation, other than the communications blackout)
+2019-08-08 12:13:16 login and the reneging of the agreement
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+2019-08-08 12:33:35 * praetor waves
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+2019-08-08 12:37:44 younix login: opportunistic invasion?
+2019-08-08 12:37:52 younix Gross
+2019-08-08 12:37:58 younix Hi praetor
+2019-08-08 12:38:27 <-- gareppa (~gareppa@151.15.127.43) has quit (quit: Leaving)
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+2019-08-08 12:45:28 login opportunistic invasion?
+2019-08-08 12:45:51 login pakistan tried that with kashmir after it decided to become an independent country (china took a small part too)
+2019-08-08 12:46:14 login the kashmir king came asking for help from india, and signed the agreement that india reneged this week (or was it last?)
+2019-08-08 12:49:37 krowbar sad thing is that more international action will probably be taken over economic impacts rather than humanitarian/moral ones
+2019-08-08 12:50:34 younix Was the invasion for economic reasons?
+2019-08-08 12:51:43 younix “The $300 million Adolescent Brain Cognitive Development (ABCD) study performed fMRIs on 11,874 youth, ages 9-10, including 2,100 young people who are twins or triplets. In the first round of testing, the scans of children who reported daily screen usage of more than seven hours showed premature thinning of the cortex, the outermost layer that processes information from the physical world.
+2019-08-08 12:51:45 younix Children who spend more than two hours of daily screen time score lower on thinking and language tests.â€
+2019-08-08 12:52:11 younix Well, I'm screwed
+2019-08-08 12:54:48 krowbar younix: forgive my international ignorance... i actually got kashmir confused with the place that produces cashmere
+2019-08-08 12:55:29 krowbar no, no, wait. i was right
+2019-08-08 12:56:25 krowbar yeah, so international countries are more likely to intercede with the issue if they felt that they were going to be negatively economically impacted (eg less cachmere to buy)
+2019-08-08 12:57:01 krowbar also, internet friends, do you feel attacked by this? https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/the-death-of-social-reciprocity-in-the-era-of-digital-distraction/
+2019-08-08 12:57:04 BitBot [Title] The Death of Social Reciprocity in the Era of Digital Distraction - Scientific American Blog Network - https://ttm.sh/I2
+2019-08-08 12:57:09 login saffron from kashmir is pretty good too
+2019-08-08 12:57:16 login thin strands that impart colour to food
+2019-08-08 12:57:26 login the colour it imparts is called saffron
+2019-08-08 12:57:29 login it's also one band of the indian flag
+2019-08-08 12:57:33 login the top band
+2019-08-08 12:57:49 login ,define social reciprocity
+2019-08-08 12:57:50 BitBot [Define] No definitions found
+2019-08-08 12:58:12 login they call it a "parasocial interaction" right?
+2019-08-08 12:58:44 krowbar who does?
+2019-08-08 12:58:48 login where you feel like the person on the screen is your friend, but they don't even know you exist other than as just a +1 in their views statistic
+2019-08-08 12:59:01 login people
+2019-08-08 12:59:02 younix Saffron is only for color? Why not use food coloring?
+2019-08-08 12:59:17 younix I thought it had a flavor too
+2019-08-08 13:00:19 krowbar i think it does. but things like saffron are what were used as food coloring before synthetic pigments could be mass produced
+2019-08-08 13:03:33 --> Alina25 (realname) (~Alina@68.red-83-51-175.dynamicip.rima-tde.net) has joined #meta
+2019-08-08 13:12:28 ~ben henlo frenlos
+2019-08-08 13:16:34 jesopo hi ben
+2019-08-08 13:16:40 ~ben how do jesopo
+2019-08-08 13:16:46 jesopo do ok
+2019-08-08 13:16:49 jesopo goin to see pals tonight
+2019-08-08 13:16:51 jesopo for movie
+2019-08-08 13:17:22 ~ben (´・ω・`)
+2019-08-08 13:17:24 ~ben nice
+2019-08-08 13:17:26 ~ben which one
+2019-08-08 13:17:34 ~ben trivia tonight!
+2019-08-08 13:17:40 jesopo ^^
+2019-08-08 13:17:42 jesopo nice!
+2019-08-08 13:18:00 ~ben we won last week so we've got a $25 gift card towards the tab
+2019-08-08 13:29:15 krowbar (imagine if you treated the bar like you treated firefox and kept 49 tabs open)
+2019-08-08 13:29:37 <-- quantumm (quantumm@tilde.team) has quit (quit: WeeChat 2.5)
+2019-08-08 13:29:45 jesopo that
+2019-08-08 13:29:47 jesopo is tootable
+2019-08-08 13:29:51 jesopo that's a tootable shitpost krowbar
+2019-08-08 13:29:57 --> quantumm (quantumm) (quantumm@tilde.team) has joined #meta
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+2019-08-08 13:38:33 ~ben lol
+2019-08-08 13:39:00 ~ben !toot imagine if you treated the bar like you treated firefox and kept 49 tabs open
+2019-08-08 13:39:00 tooter tooted! https://tilde.zone/@tildeverse/102582579370024802
+2019-08-08 13:41:55 ~tomasino trivia!
+2019-08-08 13:41:59 ~tomasino ,trivia
+2019-08-08 13:42:04 ~tomasino nope
+2019-08-08 13:42:13 ~tomasino wasn't there a trivia bot somewhere?
+2019-08-08 13:42:45 krowbar grab the fabreeze, i'ma'bout to toot
+2019-08-08 13:43:33 ~ben :3
+2019-08-08 13:43:40 ~Kneezle I'm bored, does anyone feel like jumping on a voice call?
+2019-08-08 13:44:09 ~Kneezle We can do phone bridge, or nextcloud talk
+2019-08-08 13:45:30 ~ahriman https://twitter.com/AnomieAndCoffee/status/1159520835390136320
+2019-08-08 13:45:33 BitBot [Title] anomie & coffee on Twitter: "… " - https://ttm.sh/IF
+2019-08-08 13:45:48 ~ahriman lel
+2019-08-08 13:46:01 ~Kneezle Heh
+2019-08-08 13:46:15 ~Kneezle Who says I don't?
+2019-08-08 13:46:36 ~ahriman ha
+2019-08-08 13:52:01 krowbar Kneezle: i would if i wasn't still at work
+2019-08-08 13:52:56 ~Kneezle :)â¤ï¸
+2019-08-08 13:53:01 ~Kneezle Love you krowbar
+2019-08-08 13:53:01 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-08 13:53:05 krowbar ,bef
+2019-08-08 13:53:05 BitBot [Ducks] krowbar befriended a duck in 4.26 seconds! You've befriended 5 ducks in #meta!
+2019-08-08 13:59:35 ~ben (´・ω・`)
+2019-08-08 13:59:44 ~ben i would also join but i'm at $work
+2019-08-08 14:00:22 --> hijackeel [hijackeel] (weechat) (~weechat@184-23-190-130.vpn.dynamic.sonic.net) has joined #meta
+2019-08-08 14:02:06 echelon lmao, ben
+2019-08-08 14:02:15 echelon people are loathe to say where they work here
+2019-08-08 14:02:25 echelon i tend to join networks i trust to not have spies or skids
+2019-08-08 14:02:26 ~ben i've said it before
+2019-08-08 14:02:27 echelon this is one of them
+2019-08-08 14:02:28 echelon lol
+2019-08-08 14:06:25 younix ahriman: bitbot needs to learn how to OCR twitter gifs
+2019-08-08 14:06:40 echelon lmao
+2019-08-08 14:06:42 echelon scary
+2019-08-08 14:06:47 echelon this will turn into efnet
+2019-08-08 14:06:56 ~ahriman oh hell no
+2019-08-08 14:06:59 ~ben no
+2019-08-08 14:06:59 threv hahaha
+2019-08-08 14:07:00 ~ahriman no efnet
+2019-08-08 14:07:01 quantumm ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-08 14:07:05 hijackeel ,bef
+2019-08-08 14:07:05 BitBot [Ducks] hijackeel: There was no duck!
+2019-08-08 14:07:07 ~ben lol
+2019-08-08 14:07:10 threv got'em
+2019-08-08 14:07:10 ~ben nice one
+2019-08-08 14:07:11 hijackeel :(
+2019-08-08 14:07:17 quantumm is it random all time?
+2019-08-08 14:07:20 hijackeel that is my first time ever trying to befriend a duck.
+2019-08-08 14:07:24 hijackeel i hope you are happy.
+2019-08-08 14:07:27 hijackeel i will never try again.
+2019-08-08 14:07:29 ~ahriman haha
+2019-08-08 14:07:30 quantumm and yo will try never
+2019-08-08 14:07:32 quantumm again xd
+2019-08-08 14:07:33 threv aww :(
+2019-08-08 14:07:33 echelon good so glad to see that, ahriman
+2019-08-08 14:07:34 ~ben the chance of a duck increases after 100 messages i think
+2019-08-08 14:07:37 echelon i jsut recently left that network
+2019-08-08 14:07:43 echelon i had been on there about 20 years
+2019-08-08 14:07:45 ~ben BitBot: source
+2019-08-08 14:08:06 quantumm guys what about that
+2019-08-08 14:08:07 ~ahriman efnet ... was always kind of a shitshow but it's gotten badddd
+2019-08-08 14:08:07 ~ben jesopo: thoughts on aliasing ,source to print https://bitbot.dev
+2019-08-08 14:08:11 -- quantumm is now known as BitBo7
+2019-08-08 14:08:15 BitBo7 ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-08 14:08:16 echelon really really bad
+2019-08-08 14:08:17 jesopo well
+2019-08-08 14:08:18 -- BitBo7 is now known as quantumm
+2019-08-08 14:08:19 echelon @ ahriman
+2019-08-08 14:08:20 quantumm ,bef
+2019-08-08 14:08:20 BitBot [Ducks] quantumm: There was no duck!
+2019-08-08 14:08:24 ~ben or git.io/bitbot
+2019-08-08 14:08:25 ~ahriman yeah
+2019-08-08 14:08:27 ~ben either
+2019-08-08 14:08:28 echelon they were starting to poke around at my network infra
+2019-08-08 14:08:31 echelon so i thought it was time to leave
+2019-08-08 14:08:31 jesopo I'd love an info.py module
+2019-08-08 14:08:34 jesopo that has ,source in it
+2019-08-08 14:08:34 ~ahriman oof
+2019-08-08 14:08:35 echelon i also got rid of a few IPs in the process
+2019-08-08 14:08:36 echelon heh
+2019-08-08 14:08:44 ~ben yikes
+2019-08-08 14:08:46 ~ben info.py works
+2019-08-08 14:08:48 jesopo and links to https://git.io/bitbot
+2019-08-08 14:08:50 BitBot [Title] GitHub - jesopo/bitbot: https://bitbot.dev | Python3 event-driven modular IRCv3 bot 🤖 - https://ttm.sh/It
+2019-08-08 14:08:59 ~ben (´・ω・`)
+2019-08-08 14:09:05 jesopo orrr could be in help.py
+2019-08-08 14:09:07 quantumm are you dev of it or just mirroring jesopo?
+2019-08-08 14:09:10 jesopo which exists already
+2019-08-08 14:09:14 jesopo quantumm: dev
+2019-08-08 14:09:18 quantumm cool
+2019-08-08 14:10:17 ~ben bitbot goodbot
+2019-08-08 14:10:20 jesopo ^^
+2019-08-08 14:10:25 jesopo bitbot big project. am proud
+2019-08-08 14:10:30 ~ben yes
+2019-08-08 14:10:33 ~ben u shud b
+2019-08-08 14:12:24 jesopo :3
+2019-08-08 14:12:25 ~ahriman uhhhhhhhhh holy fuck
+2019-08-08 14:12:35 ~ahriman insane ICE raid in mississippi
+2019-08-08 14:12:43 jesopo kill the cols
+2019-08-08 14:12:44 quantumm privacy and anonymity just got real: tor + socks5 proxy (ssh tunneling)
+2019-08-08 14:12:45 jesopo cops
+2019-08-08 14:12:50 quantumm off-topic xd
+2019-08-08 14:13:01 ~ahriman 680 people arrested while AT WORK, others released with ankle bracelets
+2019-08-08 14:13:08 ~ahriman wtaf
+2019-08-08 14:13:45 ~ubergeek ... and not a single employer hiring illegal immigrants was arrested...
+2019-08-08 14:14:48 ~ubergeek echelon: I work for the NSA. Now, you don't have to worry about not knowing where I work :)
+2019-08-08 14:15:03 * ubergeek helps hide Area 51 details...
+2019-08-08 14:15:24 * ubergeek shreds microfilms...
+2019-08-08 14:15:24 jesopo it's not a looming far right threat any more
+2019-08-08 14:15:39 hijackeel I work on unethical project X at government agency Y, and not the one you're thinking of either. :(
+2019-08-08 14:15:45 jesopo they're here and they're going to step up killing scapegoat minorities
+2019-08-08 14:16:00 ~ubergeek hijackeel: I think we're in neighboring offices :P
+2019-08-08 14:16:20 ~ubergeek (fwiw, I do not really work for the NSA)
+2019-08-08 14:16:37 hijackeel i just read a reddit thread by someone named ubergeek. was that you?
+2019-08-08 14:16:44 hijackeel it was on the mooltipass subreddit
+2019-08-08 14:16:46 ~ubergeek probably not
+2019-08-08 14:17:07 ~ubergeek In fact, no, it was not. I don't use this name anywhere else
+2019-08-08 14:17:19 hijackeel woulda been a funny coincidence.
+2019-08-08 14:17:20 ~ubergeek example, I did not write weechat-android :)
+2019-08-08 14:19:13 krowbar hijackeel: you work on the alien counter-probe initiative for NASA?
+2019-08-08 14:19:59 krowbar where we go to their planets and do horrible things to their livestock?
+2019-08-08 14:20:04 hijackeel XD
+2019-08-08 14:20:25 krowbar because that's _not_ the one I was thinking of
+2019-08-08 14:20:46 krowbar oh wait. you didn't say that it *is* the one that I'm *not* thinking of
+2019-08-08 14:21:12 * krowbar taps nose. very clever, you
+2019-08-08 14:28:58 <-- kj8am (~kevin@cpe-24-93-124-129.columbus.res.rr.com) has quit (quit: leaving)
+2019-08-08 14:29:22 ~ben fuck ICE
+2019-08-08 14:34:37 krowbar !acronym ICE
+2019-08-08 14:34:38 banterbot ICE: "Internal Combustion Engine", "In Case of Emergency", "Information and Communication Engineering", "Ice, Compression, Elevation", "Immigration and Customs Enforcement", "Impulsed Cornball Elites"
+2019-08-08 14:37:45 krowbar ok, now that i know what my code change needs to be... i need to merge it across two products and two release year branches... but in a specific order. guh! this is awful
+2019-08-08 15:00:47 --> kj8am [kj8am] (Kevin Morgan) (~kevin@cpe-24-93-124-129.columbus.res.rr.com) has joined #meta
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+2019-08-08 15:48:34 truth hello meta
+2019-08-08 15:50:10 krowbar well hello truth. have you got any nuggets or liberating statements for us today?
+2019-08-08 15:50:37 slipxy buy doge
+2019-08-08 15:50:57 krowbar get out of doge
+2019-08-08 15:51:00 truth I'm afraid I have neither :(
+2019-08-08 15:51:13 krowbar you've got a rather large name to live up to
+2019-08-08 15:53:52 --> mhj (mhj) (mhj@yourtilde.com) has joined #meta
+2019-08-08 15:54:03 krowbar !acronym mhj
+2019-08-08 15:54:04 banterbot MHJ: "Minnesota Hockey Journal", "Muniholdings New Jersey Insured Fund", "Men's High Jump", "Ministry Health Journal", "Miriam's Hieronymus Jessie"
+2019-08-08 15:54:20 mhj lol
+2019-08-08 15:54:22 krowbar hey men's high jump
+2019-08-08 15:54:30 mhj what's up krowbar :P
+2019-08-08 15:54:51 mhj It's been storming bad here
+2019-08-08 15:55:05 krowbar trying to merge some changes through 4 layers of connected source branches
+2019-08-08 15:55:08 krowbar it's pretty nice here
+2019-08-08 15:55:35 mhj That sounds tough
+2019-08-08 15:55:42 krowbar like "oh that's pretty but i'm glad i'm not out there" storming or "oh crap, how am i going to get home?" storming?
+2019-08-08 15:55:55 mhj The first one
+2019-08-08 15:57:07 krowbar the building i'm in is on a hill that slopes downward and i'm at that back side that's basically a story up on the ground floor. we have big windows around the entire back side so when it rains we get a very nice view
+2019-08-08 15:57:57 krowbar on the trees and pond and marsh and trash truck and train tracks and everything
+2019-08-08 15:58:14 hijackeel !acronym krowbar
+2019-08-08 15:58:15 banterbot KROWBAR: "Kidd's Rancor Optimized Walling Beaten Adolf Raceways"
+2019-08-08 15:58:35 hijackeel !acronym hijackeel
+2019-08-08 15:58:36 banterbot HIJACKEEL: "Horde Itinerary Johnson Articulateness Coauthors Kmart Exudes Ergs Led"
+2019-08-08 15:58:48 krowbar sounds about right
+2019-08-08 15:58:51 hijackeel !acronym banterbot
+2019-08-08 15:58:52 banterbot BANTERBOT: "Bookmarking Aridity Nestor Themes Encircling Ruble Butchered Overrating Thrums"
+2019-08-08 15:59:05 hijackeel !acronym !acronym
+2019-08-08 15:59:05 banterbot !ACRONYM: Future hazy, try again later: Tilde.town Error
+2019-08-08 15:59:40 krowbar 2meta4u
+2019-08-08 16:00:06 hijackeel ,bef
+2019-08-08 16:00:07 BitBot [Ducks] hijackeel: There was no duck!
+2019-08-08 16:00:30 krowbar hijackeel. it seems your name has a greeting already baked in
+2019-08-08 16:00:52 -- krowbar is now known as howdykrowbar
+2019-08-08 16:01:47 howdykrowbar speaking of which, anybody else remember the Howdy Doody show?
+2019-08-08 16:02:28 howdykrowbar but i think that 1947-1960 may be too deep a cut for these ding dang millenials
+2019-08-08 16:04:10 echelon hey kids, what time is it?!
+2019-08-08 16:04:27 slipxy its a quarter to orange!
+2019-08-08 16:04:38 mhj I remember that
+2019-08-08 16:04:41 echelon honestly the most i knew about that show is how Toy Story 2 made fun of it
+2019-08-08 16:04:49 echelon and the 30 second scene of it in Back to the Future
+2019-08-08 16:04:59 mhj But just barely, mainly because of re-runs on Nick at Nite in the 90's
+2019-08-08 16:04:59 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-08 16:05:01 hijackeel ,bef
+2019-08-08 16:05:02 mhj ,bef
+2019-08-08 16:05:02 BitBot [Ducks] hijackeel befriended a duck in 2.97 seconds! You've befriended 1 duck in #meta!
+2019-08-08 16:05:02 BitBot [Ducks] mhj: There was no duck!
+2019-08-08 16:05:04 echelon ^
+2019-08-08 16:05:05 mhj aww
+2019-08-08 16:05:07 echelon yes and nick @ nite
+2019-08-08 16:05:11 echelon that's how i knew about the munsters
+2019-08-08 16:05:13 echelon and addams family
+2019-08-08 16:05:21 echelon and i love lucy
+2019-08-08 16:05:22 echelon etc
+2019-08-08 16:05:28 mhj Munsters and Addams Family were the best
+2019-08-08 16:06:11 echelon now they have TGIF shows on from the 90s or most of NBCs comedy block
+2019-08-08 16:06:15 hijackeel ,feed
+2019-08-08 16:06:15 BitBot hijackeel: Unknown command. Did you mean ,fedi?
+2019-08-08 16:06:22 echelon Friends, Seinfeld, Cheers etc
+2019-08-08 16:06:23 echelon lol
+2019-08-08 16:06:25 mhj I also remember Mr. Ed, the talking horse show lol
+2019-08-08 16:06:27 hijackeel i want to feed the ducks
+2019-08-08 16:06:32 hijackeel bread.
+2019-08-08 16:06:44 echelon i want to make roast duck
+2019-08-08 16:06:46 echelon or duck soup
+2019-08-08 16:06:51 echelon but this is now a duck sanctuary
+2019-08-08 16:06:51 hijackeel ,warn
+2019-08-08 16:06:53 howdykrowbar that was a good film
+2019-08-08 16:06:59 clarjon1 ,bread
+2019-08-08 16:06:59 BitBot clarjon1: Unknown command. Did you mean ,nrhead?
+2019-08-08 16:07:09 mhj ,wine
+2019-08-08 16:07:14 slipxy ,cheese
+2019-08-08 16:07:25 echelon ,lambsblood
+2019-08-08 16:07:34 mhj ,pentagram
+2019-08-08 16:07:35 slipxy ,goatmilk
+2019-08-08 16:07:39 echelon damn no appetizers for the sacrifice?
+2019-08-08 16:07:42 hijackeel ,,
+2019-08-08 16:07:45 * echelon kicks dust
+2019-08-08 16:07:55 howdykrowbar duck soup with the marx brothers Groucho, Harpo, Chico, and Carl
+2019-08-08 16:08:19 echelon damn
+2019-08-08 16:08:31 echelon to be still talked about 50 years after you're dead
+2019-08-08 16:08:37 echelon like the Marx brothers
+2019-08-08 16:09:16 hijackeel related to bread: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRs37ugCxyM
+2019-08-08 16:09:17 BitBot [Youtube] The ABBOTT & COSTELLO SHOW - Loafing! (03:43) uploaded by MVerdoux, 85,547 views (481↑↓12) https://youtu.be/tRs37ugCxyM
+2019-08-08 16:11:05 --> root (root) (quantum@ctrl-c.club) has joined #meta
+2019-08-08 16:11:10 root hi
+2019-08-08 16:11:36 echelon u shouldn't irc as root
+2019-08-08 16:11:43 root why
+2019-08-08 16:12:33 root i born as root
+2019-08-08 16:13:06 howdykrowbar hijackeel: not quite a "who's on first" but real good. :)
+2019-08-08 16:13:17 <-- root (quantum@ctrl-c.club) has quit (quit: WeeChat 2.5)
+2019-08-08 16:13:48 echelon b/c i know that's an active host now
+2019-08-08 16:13:56 echelon and if i were nefarious i'd set a brute forcer on that rn
+2019-08-08 16:14:06 echelon b/c its configured to accept password as login
+2019-08-08 16:14:32 -- howdykrowbar is now known as krowbar
+2019-08-08 16:15:07 krowbar ok gamers, let's get that loaf
+2019-08-08 16:16:41 --> root (root) (quantum@ctrl-c.club) has joined #meta
+2019-08-08 16:16:47 root hi again
+2019-08-08 16:17:05 root i registered nickname root on irc
+2019-08-08 16:17:10 root and if not a problem will use it
+2019-08-08 16:17:15 echelon lol
+2019-08-08 16:17:20 * echelon starts guessing passwords
+2019-08-08 16:17:41 * root uses password generator with true random number generator
+2019-08-08 16:18:05 root true random
+2019-08-08 16:18:07 root lol
+2019-08-08 16:18:18 echelon well there's that
+2019-08-08 16:18:24 ~tomasino woo root
+2019-08-08 16:18:42 root did you scared tomasino xd xd
+2019-08-08 16:18:55 root rm -rf --no-preserve-root /*
+2019-08-08 16:19:03 root oh, wrote it on false prompt
+2019-08-08 16:19:10 root gimme a min
+2019-08-08 16:19:12 root xd
+2019-08-08 16:19:23 echelon i started a vps
+2019-08-08 16:19:25 echelon just so i could fuck it up
+2019-08-08 16:19:38 echelon finding what deletions i make that causes the most chaos
+2019-08-08 16:19:38 echelon etc
+2019-08-08 16:20:12 root hey which one is your main tilde echelon
+2019-08-08 16:20:19 echelon uh
+2019-08-08 16:20:26 echelon i don't have a team account
+2019-08-08 16:20:27 root hard choice
+2019-08-08 16:20:38 echelon i was invited to the IRC network by ryan
+2019-08-08 16:20:45 echelon i am only here for chat
+2019-08-08 16:20:52 root nice
+2019-08-08 16:20:57 echelon i have a ton of my own resources to use that i don't need a publinux
+2019-08-08 16:21:15 root can you share with me xd
+2019-08-08 16:21:24 echelon lol
+2019-08-08 16:21:55 ryan Even when not on#!, you're still blaming me for everything
+2019-08-08 16:22:16 root hashbang
+2019-08-08 16:22:17 root cool
+2019-08-08 16:22:47 echelon yeah
+2019-08-08 16:22:50 echelon i guess i admin over there
+2019-08-08 16:22:56 root u admin?
+2019-08-08 16:22:56 echelon glorified chanserv mostly
+2019-08-08 16:22:57 root really
+2019-08-08 16:23:04 root w0w
+2019-08-08 16:23:04 echelon just the ircd
+2019-08-08 16:23:11 root lets be friends then xd
+2019-08-08 16:23:16 echelon lol no i have 0 power
+2019-08-08 16:23:21 root no prob
+2019-08-08 16:23:23 echelon just have an oline
+2019-08-08 16:23:23 root xd
+2019-08-08 16:23:23 echelon :P
+2019-08-08 16:23:35 root ,bef
+2019-08-08 16:23:35 BitBot [Ducks] root: There was no duck!
+2019-08-08 16:23:38 echelon lol
+2019-08-08 16:23:40 root im root
+2019-08-08 16:23:42 root gimme ducks
+2019-08-08 16:23:47 echelon you're not root
+2019-08-08 16:23:49 echelon you're a sham
+2019-08-08 16:23:50 echelon :P
+2019-08-08 16:23:53 root :^
+2019-08-08 16:23:56 * tomasino gives ducks to root
+2019-08-08 16:24:10 root thx
+2019-08-08 16:24:12 root tomasino
+2019-08-08 16:24:26 krowbar on that note, read http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/unix-koans/
+2019-08-08 16:24:29 BitBot [Title] Rootless Root - https://ttm.sh/Ie
+2019-08-08 16:24:30 ~fosslinux hi root
+2019-08-08 16:24:35 root hey
+2019-08-08 16:24:38 echelon haha
+2019-08-08 16:24:40 root how are you fosslinux
+2019-08-08 16:24:42 echelon that's like chroot or jails right?
+2019-08-08 16:24:45 root krowbar bruh
+2019-08-08 16:24:48 ~fosslinux gud thank u
+2019-08-08 16:24:50 ~fosslinux how u
+2019-08-08 16:24:56 root i feel root
+2019-08-08 16:25:01 root but im rootless root
+2019-08-08 16:25:06 krowbar root: hey soul sister?
+2019-08-08 16:25:07 root do you want to give me root xd
+2019-08-08 16:26:37 root fosslinux
+2019-08-08 16:26:44 ~fosslinux no
+2019-08-08 16:26:47 ~fosslinux lol
+2019-08-08 16:27:02 root that wasnt answer to question
+2019-08-08 16:27:13 root i was mentioned you and going to ask a question to you lel
+2019-08-08 16:27:21 root lets quote that
+2019-08-08 16:27:47 root echelon its actually a vm
+2019-08-08 16:28:04 root fosslinux: how many tilde servers do you run
+2019-08-08 16:28:10 <-- Fessus (~Fessus@107.191.108.221) has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds)
+2019-08-08 16:28:20 root mosh is good
+2019-08-08 16:28:27 root recommened
+2019-08-08 16:28:30 ~fosslinux I run 1
+2019-08-08 16:28:36 ~fosslinux and help with another
+2019-08-08 16:28:43 root what was it
+2019-08-08 16:28:53 ~fosslinux Actually I help with 2 others
+2019-08-08 16:28:54 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-08 16:28:57 root ,bef
+2019-08-08 16:28:58 BitBot [Ducks] root befriended a duck in 3.95 seconds! You've befriended 1 duck in #meta!
+2019-08-08 16:29:16 ~fosslinux I run aussies.space and help with thunix.net and cosmic.voyage
+2019-08-08 16:29:31 root great
+2019-08-08 16:29:38 root aussies.space is also great tilde
+2019-08-08 16:29:43 root but away from me
+2019-08-08 16:29:56 root we need one at europe
+2019-08-08 16:30:04 ~fosslinux heaps in Europe!
+2019-08-08 16:30:09 ~fosslinux tilde.institute
+2019-08-08 16:30:13 ~fosslinux cosmic.voyage
+2019-08-08 16:30:15 ~fosslinux thunix.net
+2019-08-08 16:30:23 root and envs.net
+2019-08-08 16:30:32 root but envs blocks tor exits
+2019-08-08 16:30:36 ~fosslinux hetzner is a common provider
+2019-08-08 16:30:45 root but there is cheaper one
+2019-08-08 16:30:51 root netcup.eu
+2019-08-08 16:30:57 root https://netcup.eu
+2019-08-08 16:30:58 echelon i love me some hetzner
+2019-08-08 16:30:58 BitBot [Title] netcup GmbH - Your partner for web hosting, root server, managed servers, domains, SSL certificates, software, server management and more. - https://netcup.eu
+2019-08-08 16:31:02 echelon i have a server in germany
+2019-08-08 16:31:04 echelon and one in finland
+2019-08-08 16:31:10 echelon the 2 of them for under 100EUR/mo
+2019-08-08 16:31:20 echelon a total of 12TB of space
+2019-08-08 16:31:39 root ok, hetzner probably cheaper xd
+2019-08-08 16:31:48 creme myloc.de - servdiscount.com is also good
+2019-08-08 16:32:01 root hi creme
+2019-08-08 16:32:04 creme hey
+2019-08-08 16:32:55 echelon i am surprised how much latency i *don't* have
+2019-08-08 16:32:58 echelon from here in the USA
+2019-08-08 16:33:08 echelon between 120-150ms on peak hours
+2019-08-08 16:34:01 root guys i will exit from pubnix and will write some code on my dev enviorement
+2019-08-08 16:34:03 root bye
+2019-08-08 16:34:18 root ~rootless_root
+2019-08-08 16:34:18 slipxy wat
+2019-08-08 16:34:32 root ?
+2019-08-08 16:34:42 echelon u don't have to leave here to dev
+2019-08-08 16:34:50 echelon haha
+2019-08-08 16:34:53 root yes but kinda working private
+2019-08-08 16:35:15 --> Fessus (realname) (~Fessus@107.191.108.221) has joined #meta
+2019-08-08 16:35:20 echelon haha
+2019-08-08 16:35:22 echelon i am rn
+2019-08-08 16:35:27 echelon two terminals open
+2019-08-08 16:35:32 echelon and this is a gui client
+2019-08-08 16:35:34 echelon adiirc
+2019-08-08 16:35:41 slipxy i didnt even open my shell yet today
+2019-08-08 16:36:03 echelon OS: 64 bit Windows 10 Home (Version 10.0 1809 Build 17763.615), CPU: 4 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4460 CPU @ 3.20GHz @ 3193 MHz 1024 KB Cache, MEM: 8124 MB, 19% (1539 MB) free, DISKS: total 930 GB - 368 GB free, GFX: NVIDIA GeForce GT 730 2048 MB, SCREEN: Generic PnP Monitor, 1920 x 1080 @ 32 bit, 60 Hz, AUDIO: Realtek High Definition Audio, UPTIME: 1 d, 7 h, 27 m
+2019-08-08 16:36:11 echelon i begrudgingly switched to windows10 locally again
+2019-08-08 16:36:14 echelon so i could game
+2019-08-08 16:36:23 echelon but i have a linux mint 19 laptop
+2019-08-08 16:36:28 root please dont do it to me
+2019-08-08 16:36:33 echelon and my servers either run debian or bsd
+2019-08-08 16:36:36 root why are you sending specs of your windows
+2019-08-08 16:36:39 root omg
+2019-08-08 16:36:48 root long time n see WC specs
+2019-08-08 16:36:53 echelon haha
+2019-08-08 16:36:57 root xdxd
+2019-08-08 16:37:04 echelon this desktop is about 5 yr old
+2019-08-08 16:37:11 echelon used to be my wifes business computer
+2019-08-08 16:37:20 echelon but she has a lenovo legion laptop now
+2019-08-08 16:37:23 echelon a freaking beast
+2019-08-08 16:37:25 root great
+2019-08-08 16:37:29 echelon GeForce 1050Ti in it
+2019-08-08 16:37:30 root it is also gaming laptop i guess
+2019-08-08 16:37:32 echelon 32GB RAM
+2019-08-08 16:37:32 echelon heh
+2019-08-08 16:37:38 slipxy i wish i had a 5yr old wife business computer
+2019-08-08 16:38:02 echelon my laptop when it ran windows 8
+2019-08-08 16:38:04 root i wish i had a raspberry pi zero w
+2019-08-08 16:38:06 echelon would freeze playing minecraft
+2019-08-08 16:38:06 root lol
+2019-08-08 16:38:16 echelon but now i can throw a lot at it with mint
+2019-08-08 16:38:23 root never used mint
+2019-08-08 16:38:25 echelon but still it's the specs of a good coding machine, nothing more
+2019-08-08 16:38:37 root do you recommend it
+2019-08-08 16:38:41 echelon that's an HP Touchsmart 15
+2019-08-08 16:38:43 root like do you experience much problems
+2019-08-08 16:38:54 echelon for an HP It has lasted the longest without falling apart
+2019-08-08 16:39:18 echelon my son uses it for minecraft now and i ssh through it
+2019-08-08 16:39:26 echelon cuz it also holds most of my authorized_keys
+2019-08-08 16:39:28 echelon for server work
+2019-08-08 16:41:09 root exiting from irc guys
+2019-08-08 16:41:12 root bye!
+2019-08-08 16:41:14 <-- root (quantum@ctrl-c.club) has quit (quit: WeeChat 2.5)
+2019-08-08 16:42:27 echelon quick! get him a tmux session!
+2019-08-08 16:45:21 <-- Fessus (~Fessus@107.191.108.221) has quit (Connection closed)
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+2019-08-08 16:48:10 slipxy echo "tmux new weechat" | tee /home/root/.profile
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+2019-08-08 16:53:01 demure birbs https://imgur.com/gallery/aggK0B2
+2019-08-08 16:53:02 BitBot [Title] The duck apocalypse - Album on Imgur - https://ttm.sh/IP
+2019-08-08 16:55:46 truth this needs subtitles that say ",bef ,bef ,bef!"
+2019-08-08 17:01:27 ~ahriman haha
+2019-08-08 17:01:50 ~ahriman i would probably try to talk to one of them. "Hey buddy!!!"
+2019-08-08 17:03:45 --> Fessus (realname) (~Fessus@107.191.108.221) has joined #meta
+2019-08-08 17:14:28 BitBot [RSS] tilde news: Newest Stories: What has to happen with Unix virtual memory when you have no swap space by rdh@users.tilde.news (rdh) - https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/unix/NoSwapConsequence
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+2019-08-08 17:35:44 hijackeel sweet i'm all set up with a coinbase account.
+2019-08-08 17:35:56 hijackeel but emerging electrum fails.
+2019-08-08 17:36:01 hijackeel to the #gentoo
+2019-08-08 17:36:03 hijackeel !
+2019-08-08 17:38:36 --> mhj (mhj) (mhj@yourtilde.com) has joined #meta
+2019-08-08 17:38:44 mhj ,bef
+2019-08-08 17:38:44 BitBot [Ducks] mhj: There was no duck!
+2019-08-08 17:41:11 ~ahriman rip
+2019-08-08 17:43:00 praetor wow. that was way left field
+2019-08-08 17:44:30 --> adium [adium] (adium) (~adium@187.181.130.100) has joined #meta
+2019-08-08 17:48:50 ~ahriman ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-08 17:48:56 praetor get it mhj
+2019-08-08 17:49:07 praetor ohhhhhh
+2019-08-08 17:49:09 praetor :p
+2019-08-08 17:49:13 praetor ahriman you ass :p
+2019-08-08 17:49:16 ~ahriman haha
+2019-08-08 17:49:22 ~ahriman i have it aliased to /quack
+2019-08-08 17:49:32 praetor that's just cruel
+2019-08-08 17:49:32 ~ahriman but use it sparingly
+2019-08-08 17:49:55 ~ahriman (´・ω・`)
+2019-08-08 17:49:59 praetor lol
+2019-08-08 17:50:00 mhj :P
+2019-08-08 17:50:24 ~ahriman apparently danny trejo saved a baby from a flipped car. are movies real life now?
+2019-08-08 17:51:22 praetor idk. I saw the lion king. it looked pretty fucking real
+2019-08-08 17:51:34 ~ahriman i wanna see the new lion king
+2019-08-08 17:51:41 praetor it's so good
+2019-08-08 17:51:58 ~ahriman it'd be surreal having seen it when it first came out, then seeing the remake
+2019-08-08 17:52:30 praetor i mean, you know what's going to happen, but it happens in 8k hi-def...including mufasa's murder
+2019-08-08 17:52:33 praetor so traumatizing
+2019-08-08 17:52:37 ~ahriman oh shit
+2019-08-08 17:52:38 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-08 17:52:39 ~ahriman ,bef
+2019-08-08 17:52:40 BitBot [Ducks] ahriman befriended a duck in 2.06 seconds! You've befriended 54 ducks in #meta!
+2019-08-08 17:52:40 ~fosslinux ,bef
+2019-08-08 17:52:41 BitBot [Ducks] fosslinux: There was no duck!
+2019-08-08 17:52:42 ~ahriman MINE
+2019-08-08 17:52:46 ~fosslinux :(
+2019-08-08 17:52:56 praetor ducky stealer
+2019-08-08 17:52:59 ~fosslinux hi ahriman
+2019-08-08 17:53:05 ~ahriman lol hi fosslinux
+2019-08-08 17:53:08 ~fosslinux hi praetor
+2019-08-08 17:53:12 praetor heya fossy
+2019-08-08 17:53:12 ~fosslinux sup guys
+2019-08-08 17:53:21 praetor about to go water the garden
+2019-08-08 17:53:29 praetor get ready for mom to come home
+2019-08-08 17:53:29 ~fosslinux ,time praetor
+2019-08-08 17:53:30 BitBot [Time] Time for praetor: 2019/08/08 16:53:30
+2019-08-08 17:58:52 hijackeel pretty sure lion king was the first movie i ever saw in theaters
+2019-08-08 18:01:02 --> jfaust (jfaust) (jfaust@tilde.team) has joined #meta
+2019-08-08 18:01:03 hijackeel but according to wikipedia aladdin came out earlier and i remember that being a big thing... maybe i saw that on VHS afterwards?
+2019-08-08 18:17:33 <-- pie (~quassel@tilde.town) has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds)
+2019-08-08 18:36:57 ~ahriman i don't remember my first movie
+2019-08-08 18:37:34 ~ahriman i remember loving FernGully as a kid and I'm pretty sure that movie is why I'm a dirty red today
+2019-08-08 18:38:12 ~ahriman it's also why i loved Princess Mononoke, which is basically FernGully with blood
+2019-08-08 18:44:07 hijackeel you ever see the watership down cartoon?
+2019-08-08 18:44:43 hijackeel i am a dirty red because of trump and bay area rent.
+2019-08-08 18:46:25 hijackeel landlord is raising my rent because it cost him money to fix the mold problem. :|
+2019-08-08 18:46:40 hijackeel that new extractor fan in the bathroom is so worth it though.
+2019-08-08 18:49:16 hijackeel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPBck3xcUJc
+2019-08-08 18:49:17 BitBot [Youtube] Watership Down Violence (03:02) uploaded by benoitforchamp, 1,019,423 views (4323↑↓946) https://youtu.be/aPBck3xcUJc
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+2019-08-08 19:01:28 robdrake Hello #meta
+2019-08-08 19:03:19 robdrake meh, I have better things to do than listen to crickets
+2019-08-08 19:33:10 praetor aww hai robdrake
+2019-08-08 19:33:41 ~ahriman sup robdrake
+2019-08-08 19:34:50 ~ahriman ughhh im so full. i just ate a plate of fricasse de poulet
+2019-08-08 19:34:57 praetor fancy
+2019-08-08 19:35:14 ~ahriman xD cajun food, fancy, you're funny
+2019-08-08 19:35:30 praetor cajun food is sooo gooood
+2019-08-08 19:35:52 ~ahriman you're welcome for our gift to the world :p
+2019-08-08 19:36:00 praetor :D
+2019-08-08 19:36:50 ~ahriman also you're in DFW so you can probably get cajun food rather easily. i can only get it when either me or my family makes it since we're so far away from home
+2019-08-08 19:37:15 ~ahriman like can you get boudin at the store there?
+2019-08-08 19:37:32 praetor you can actually
+2019-08-08 19:37:38 ~ahriman luckyyyy
+2019-08-08 19:37:56 ~ahriman last time i had it was when my dad packed it on dry ice and drove it over
+2019-08-08 19:37:57 praetor DFW has alot of cajun diaspora
+2019-08-08 19:38:18 praetor mostly on the dallas side.
+2019-08-08 19:38:20 ~ahriman that makes sense. it's a nearby major city with lots of jobs (assuming)
+2019-08-08 19:39:26 praetor we have all kinds of people here. cajuns, germans, latinos of various kinds, italians, czech
+2019-08-08 19:41:08 ~ahriman oh wow, that's cool! i bet you have a ton of awesome restaurants
+2019-08-08 19:42:46 praetor yus :D
+2019-08-08 19:44:23 * praetor takes a break from codering and looks for a weird interesting os for his raspberry pi b
+2019-08-08 19:44:58 threv _riscos_
+2019-08-08 19:46:39 praetor I'm thinking plan 9
+2019-08-08 19:46:47 ~ahriman hmm, i wonder what's out these days too ...
+2019-08-08 19:48:09 threv won't work on a raspi
+2019-08-08 19:48:17 threv certainly not out of the box
+2019-08-08 19:48:43 praetor isn't there a plan 9 raspi distro?
+2019-08-08 19:48:53 threv i don't thikn so
+2019-08-08 19:49:03 threv WELL I"M WRONG
+2019-08-08 19:49:25 threv there is, and i'm dumb!!!!!
+2019-08-08 19:49:32 ~ahriman dammit omnios is x64 only
+2019-08-08 19:49:37 ~ahriman noice
+2019-08-08 19:50:24 ~ahriman praetor: it's a pi2 B?
+2019-08-08 19:50:48 ~ahriman or well i'll just give you this: https://github.com/thibmaek/awesome-raspberry-pi
+2019-08-08 19:50:50 BitBot [Title] GitHub - thibmaek/awesome-raspberry-pi: 📠A curated list of awesome Raspberry Pi tools, projects, images and resources - https://ttm.sh/Iw
+2019-08-08 19:52:33 praetor turns out plan 9 is available for it
+2019-08-08 19:52:34 praetor https://lb.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=210855
+2019-08-08 19:52:37 praetor lessee ahriman
+2019-08-08 19:58:52 younix i just read "a cursed list of raspberry pi tools"
+2019-08-08 19:59:51 praetor ahaha
+2019-08-08 20:00:39 threv ahahahahaha
+2019-08-08 20:01:25 younix ahahahahahahahahaha
+2019-08-08 20:01:37 threv ^^
+2019-08-08 20:01:59 younix muahahahahahahahahah
+2019-08-08 20:05:33 npa does cable tv in america have ads?
+2019-08-08 20:05:43 npa when i say cable, i mean paid tv
+2019-08-08 20:05:48 npa dunno what you guys call it
+2019-08-08 20:05:58 vilmibm yes
+2019-08-08 20:06:01 vilmibm many
+2019-08-08 20:06:02 threv yes
+2019-08-08 20:06:05 threv so goddamned many
+2019-08-08 20:06:11 vilmibm like more ads than non-ads
+2019-08-08 20:06:22 npa oh cool
+2019-08-08 20:06:39 npa i'm planning on writing a little thing that blocks ads, wasn't sure if it was the same case in the US
+2019-08-08 20:06:50 praetor does cable tv not have ads in other places?
+2019-08-08 20:07:04 npa it used to not have ads here until about 10 years ago?
+2019-08-08 20:07:17 npa that was the selling point of it
+2019-08-08 20:07:24 npa to have more tv shows, and no ads
+2019-08-08 20:08:19 truth You read the cursed list of Raspberry Pi tools. You feel different! The list disintegrates. You feel your Raspberry Pi (3B+) is cursed...
+2019-08-08 20:09:31 npa > E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
+2019-08-08 20:09:34 npa uh oh
+2019-08-08 20:09:41 younix vilmibm: what are your favorite non-ads at the moment?
+2019-08-08 20:09:51 npa i think i'm fucked
+2019-08-08 20:10:00 younix there's a lot of new non-ads coming out
+2019-08-08 20:10:48 younix truth: "you try to logout, but the command fails. you find your hands bound to the keyboard."
+2019-08-08 20:11:35 younix npa: there are some stations without ads, like HBO and Bravo and such
+2019-08-08 20:11:40 younix "premium" channels
+2019-08-08 20:11:58 younix CLASSY TV
+2019-08-08 20:13:10 truth npa: did you just break debian? how?
+2019-08-08 20:15:19 npa updating to sid
+2019-08-08 20:15:25 younix you can probably move the home dir to a temporary spot, then debootstrap over top of the old system
+2019-08-08 20:15:27 npa i am not good at computer
+2019-08-08 20:15:42 younix mv /* /backup
+2019-08-08 20:15:46 younix debootstrap /
+2019-08-08 20:15:54 npa i'm living at my parent's house atm, so not sure if i have any external hard drives laying around
+2019-08-08 20:16:12 younix do you have a bootable stick?
+2019-08-08 20:16:16 younix you can do it in-place
+2019-08-08 20:16:21 npa i can kick logs, yes
+2019-08-08 20:16:37 npa but not sure, i'll have to check if my dad has a USB
+2019-08-08 20:16:39 younix what's that mean? :)
+2019-08-08 20:16:46 npa kick logs = bootable stick
+2019-08-08 20:16:50 younix lol
+2019-08-08 20:16:56 younix a stick is HARDLY A LOG SIR
+2019-08-08 20:17:10 younix jk jk
+2019-08-08 20:17:10 npa couldn't think of a nice synonym for stick, maybe twig
+2019-08-08 20:17:29 truth npa: what do you need sid for?
+2019-08-08 20:17:48 npa couldn't be arsed building clang8
+2019-08-08 20:17:59 younix arch has clang8
+2019-08-08 20:18:02 younix :D
+2019-08-08 20:18:02 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-08 20:18:03 npa ,trap
+2019-08-08 20:18:04 BitBot [Ducks] npa trapped a duck in 1.86 seconds! You've trapped 76 ducks in #meta!
+2019-08-08 20:18:04 younix ,bef
+2019-08-08 20:18:04 BitBot [Ducks] younix: There was no duck!
+2019-08-08 20:18:25 npa last time i built clang8 it took 80GB of space
+2019-08-08 20:18:28 truth it's in testing
+2019-08-08 20:18:40 younix docker pull clang8
+2019-08-08 20:18:47 younix docker pull sid
+2019-08-08 20:19:07 younix what needs clang8?
+2019-08-08 20:19:08 truth https://packages.debian.org/clang-8
+2019-08-08 20:19:10 BitBot [Title] Debian -- Package Search Results -- clang-8 - https://ttm.sh/Iq
+2019-08-08 20:19:24 npa lxc launch linux:debian/sid containername
+2019-08-08 20:19:47 npa s/linux/images
+2019-08-08 20:19:47 timemachine lxc launch images:debian/sid containername
+2019-08-08 20:20:02 npa i am helping fix llvm documentation
+2019-08-08 20:20:19 younix nice
+2019-08-08 20:20:20 npa clang 6 didn't compile the examples, so decided to ho the whole hog
+2019-08-08 20:20:36 npa HEAVE HO, HOG
+2019-08-08 20:20:40 younix haha
+2019-08-08 20:20:49 younix that'll do, hog
+2019-08-08 20:20:52 npa i retrospect yes, i should have used a container
+2019-08-08 20:20:58 truth testing is fine for most cases, most of the cases you can install packages from unstable
+2019-08-08 20:21:10 younix so you switched to lxc since a couple weeks ago?
+2019-08-08 20:21:22 npa nah i had to use docker for that artifact
+2019-08-08 20:21:35 younix how come?
+2019-08-08 20:21:38 npa lxc is nice for persistent images, whilst docker is good for disposable stuff
+2019-08-08 20:21:51 younix so lxc is more like a VM?
+2019-08-08 20:21:54 npa because people that don't use linux should be able to run the artifact
+2019-08-08 20:22:14 younix so, docker's easier than lxc?
+2019-08-08 20:22:21 * younix noob mode
+2019-08-08 20:22:22 npa yes, and not limited ot linux
+2019-08-08 20:22:26 younix ORLY
+2019-08-08 20:22:31 npa lxc = linux containers
+2019-08-08 20:22:42 younix i live in a linux bubble
+2019-08-08 20:22:44 npa most people that use docker dev on macs
+2019-08-08 20:22:44 younix there is no other os
+2019-08-08 20:22:51 threv a nice linux apertif
+2019-08-08 20:23:01 * younix puffs his bubble pipe
+2019-08-08 20:23:11 threv hahaha
+2019-08-08 20:24:01 threv hmm, yes, quite, quite.
+2019-08-08 20:24:25 younix MIT in the 80's seems like a place with a lot of drugs: https://github.com/PDP-10/its/blob/master/src/lisp/tapexx.55#L276
+2019-08-08 20:24:29 BitBot [Title] its/tapexx.55 at master · PDP-10/its · GitHub - https://ttm.sh/I0
+2019-08-08 20:24:40 threv it sure was
+2019-08-08 20:24:42 threv it still is!
+2019-08-08 20:25:06 younix good to know
+2019-08-08 20:25:32 younix this rivals brainfuck
+2019-08-08 20:25:59 younix it's like cating a binary
+2019-08-08 20:26:28 younix J<:S&&S.U0 0L .,Q0K > !* ANY CONDITIONALS FOR THIS ONE?!
+2019-08-08 20:26:30 younix J<:S&&0LK> !* ANY CONDITIONAL AT ALL!
+2019-08-08 20:26:34 ~ahriman i think that's what happens when you try to code after you eat a 10-strip
+2019-08-08 20:26:48 younix dude was having a bad trip
+2019-08-08 20:26:57 ~ahriman v v bad
+2019-08-08 20:27:13 younix he managed to make it compile though, which is why he's at MIT
+2019-08-08 20:27:14 ~ahriman screaming in the corner about conditionals
+2019-08-08 20:27:26 ~ahriman rocking in the fetal position
+2019-08-08 20:27:40 younix that code still haunts his nightmares
+2019-08-08 20:27:55 ~ahriman probably still seeing a therapist about it tbh
+2019-08-08 20:28:15 ~ahriman 50 years later or so
+2019-08-08 20:29:22 younix haha
+2019-08-08 20:29:27 younix i wonder if that's some kind of lisp bytecode
+2019-08-08 20:29:41 ~ahriman someone patch git so we can blame through the time before git existed. i want to meet this psychopath.
+2019-08-08 20:30:26 ~ahriman actually
+2019-08-08 20:30:30 ~ahriman i think it is lisp bytecode
+2019-08-08 20:30:34 younix he's probably still alive!
+2019-08-08 20:31:53 npa uh oh, df -h is now hanging
+2019-08-08 20:31:58 ~ahriman oh dear
+2019-08-08 20:31:59 npa mama mia
+2019-08-08 20:32:01 ~ahriman just burn it
+2019-08-08 20:32:06 ~ahriman gotta start over
+2019-08-08 20:32:06 younix BURN IT ALL
+2019-08-08 20:32:06 npa nuke debian
+2019-08-08 20:32:36 <-- jack3 (the_kink@pool-71-255-179-159.slsbmd.east.verizon.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds)
+2019-08-08 20:32:36 younix https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsM4FM3MiK0
+2019-08-08 20:32:37 BitBot [Youtube] Nine Inch Nails - Burn (05:02) uploaded by schmagoogal, 897,745 views (5531↑↓163) https://youtu.be/dsM4FM3MiK0
+2019-08-08 20:32:42 threv so. good.
+2019-08-08 20:32:51 threv i'm gonna burn this whole. world. down.
+2019-08-08 20:34:05 younix s/world/debian installation/
+2019-08-08 20:34:05 timemachine “The $300 million Adolescent Brain Cognitive Development (ABCD) study performed fMRIs on 11,874 youth, ages 9-10, including 2,100 young people who are twins or triplets. In the first round of testing, the scans of children who reported daily screen usage of more than seven hours showed premature thinning of the cortex, the outermost layer that processes information from the physical debian installation.
+2019-08-08 20:34:14 younix lol wtf timemachine
+2019-08-08 20:34:15 ~ahriman whoa
+2019-08-08 20:34:31 younix i guess that's the last message that contained "world"
+2019-08-08 20:34:34 ~ahriman HAHAH
+2019-08-08 20:34:49 ~ahriman that's amazing to read
+2019-08-08 20:35:13 younix the more screen time, the thinner your debian install
+2019-08-08 20:35:25 ~ahriman younix: s/thinner/unthicc/
+2019-08-08 20:35:25 timemachine the more screen time, the unthicc your debian install
+2019-08-08 20:35:26 younix it takes a long time to strip it down
+2019-08-08 20:35:29 npa PHYSICAL DEBIAN INSTALLATION
+2019-08-08 20:35:56 ~ahriman npa: i'm turning red in the face from laughing at this shit
+2019-08-08 20:36:06 younix "children who spent 12 hours in front of the screens often also showed a predilection for tiling windowmanagers"
+2019-08-08 20:38:14 npa > Calculating upgrade... Error!
+2019-08-08 20:38:18 npa oh no
+2019-08-08 20:38:36 ~ahriman i had to do it https://quotes.tilde.chat/quote/166
+2019-08-08 20:38:38 BitBot [Title] ~chat IRC quote database - quote 166 - https://ttm.sh/IS
+2019-08-08 20:38:39 younix from hell's heart i strike at thee, debiannn
+2019-08-08 20:39:12 ~ahriman the tiling wm comment was like the icing on the cake
+2019-08-08 20:39:27 younix whee! i'm in a quote!
+2019-08-08 20:39:35 younix danke
+2019-08-08 20:40:08 ~ahriman you're probably already in some, folks record to the quotes db all the time
+2019-08-08 20:42:49 npa https://quotes.tilde.chat/quote/138
+2019-08-08 20:42:51 BitBot [Title] ~chat IRC quote database - quote 138 - https://ttm.sh/IW
+2019-08-08 20:42:54 npa never forget
+2019-08-08 20:43:45 npa i am now rsyncing my home dir
+2019-08-08 20:46:22 younix haha
+2019-08-08 20:46:28 younix npa: do it in place bro
+2019-08-08 20:46:48 npa what
+2019-08-08 20:46:49 younix usb stick -> mount drive -> move everything into backup dir -> debootstrap drive
+2019-08-08 20:46:59 younix mv mnt/* mnt/backup
+2019-08-08 20:47:13 npa my installation is too big to fit in backup dir
+2019-08-08 20:47:21 younix mv mnt/home mnt/backup
+2019-08-08 20:47:31 npa that's the ticket
+2019-08-08 20:47:33 younix :D
+2019-08-08 20:47:45 younix actually, first move everything into deleteme, then move home into backup, then delete deleteme
+2019-08-08 20:48:06 younix you might also want to save your dpkg selections
+2019-08-08 20:48:12 younix i think it's a textfile
+2019-08-08 20:48:56 younix or you could just backup dpkg.log
+2019-08-08 20:48:58 npa the manually installed ones?
+2019-08-08 20:49:20 npa manually selected, i guess
+2019-08-08 20:50:25 younix yeah
+2019-08-08 20:52:06 npa easy
+2019-08-08 20:54:22 younix dpkg.log shows all installed packages, while selections is just the ones you installed
+2019-08-08 20:54:40 npa yep
+2019-08-08 20:54:56 npa i just used sudo apt-mark showmanual
+2019-08-08 20:56:31 nincollin working on setting up my windowmaker menu to load all my games/ROMs http://tilde.town/~nincollin/junk/menu.png
+2019-08-08 20:56:32 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-08 20:56:35 nincollin .bef
+2019-08-08 20:56:38 nincollin ,bef
+2019-08-08 20:56:39 BitBot [Ducks] nincollin befriended a duck in 7.66 seconds! You've befriended 1 duck in #meta!
+2019-08-08 20:58:00 younix npa: oh, apt still functions? sweet
+2019-08-08 20:58:14 younix fyi i think they're stored in /var/lib/dpkg/status
+2019-08-08 20:58:39 younix (i straced dpkg --get-selections)
+2019-08-08 21:02:22 <-- adium (~adium@187.181.130.100) has quit (quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
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+2019-08-08 21:02:35 TechEmporium https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Czv9grI8GMo
+2019-08-08 21:02:36 BitBot [Youtube] Dotto's Data Cafe - Netscape Navigator (24:30) uploaded by VHSHD.com, 36 views (2↑↓0) https://youtu.be/Czv9grI8GMo
+2019-08-08 21:02:48 TechEmporium God, I feel ancient
+2019-08-08 21:04:05 younix this is the show mathnet was a part of: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Square_One_Television
+2019-08-08 21:04:08 BitBot [Title] Square One Television - Wikipedia - https://ttm.sh/IB
+2019-08-08 21:07:16 TechEmporium God, this is going back
+2019-08-08 21:07:19 younix https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6D0pNmAIBg
+2019-08-08 21:07:20 BitBot [Youtube] Mathman Glitch 5x + 2 (01:42) uploaded by CliffColeclough, 85,609 views (172↑↓6) https://youtu.be/k6D0pNmAIBg
+2019-08-08 21:12:49 ~ahriman omg
+2019-08-08 21:13:34 younix that was a scary segment... "do mental algebra in 3 seconds or be murdered"
+2019-08-08 21:13:46 TechEmporium lmfao
+2019-08-08 21:14:14 TechEmporium The scary part is how annoying that segment's dialog actually was... Just like the Atari 2600 version of Pacman
+2019-08-08 21:14:16 npa > rsync error: some files/attrs were not transferred (see previous errors) (code 23) at main.c(1207) [sender=3.1.3]
+2019-08-08 21:14:22 npa how do i find out what actually broke
+2019-08-08 21:14:37 younix yikes, that's an unhelpful error
+2019-08-08 21:14:41 younix maybe try verbose mode
+2019-08-08 21:14:44 npa is 2>/tmp/errlog sufficient
+2019-08-08 21:14:45 younix rsync --verbose --progress
+2019-08-08 21:14:47 TechEmporium https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCPpgt0s70U
+2019-08-08 21:14:48 BitBot [Youtube] Atari 2600 Longplay [002] Pac-Man (17:35) uploaded by World of Longplays, 269,530 views (901↑↓68) https://youtu.be/nCPpgt0s70U
+2019-08-08 21:14:49 npa it is verbose
+2019-08-08 21:14:55 younix progress helps too
+2019-08-08 21:15:03 praetor reactos is a nice little os.
+2019-08-08 21:15:12 younix i dunno if rsync uses stderr for errors
+2019-08-08 21:15:13 praetor I have need of a few windows apps for my radios
+2019-08-08 21:15:22 npa oh it failed to xfer a chmod'd file
+2019-08-08 21:15:23 praetor and I don't want winblows 10
+2019-08-08 21:15:24 npa nice
+2019-08-08 21:15:39 younix that's nice?
+2019-08-08 21:15:51 npa yeah it shouldn't have xfers
+2019-08-08 21:16:04 npa it was some private key that was junk
+2019-08-08 21:16:28 younix wat
+2019-08-08 21:17:17 TechEmporium I hope ReactOS is actually usable enough for a laptop & has functional USB drivers
+2019-08-08 21:17:35 TechEmporium Last time I tried it, there were no USB drivers & I had to load them manually from a CD-RW lol
+2019-08-08 21:17:57 praetor works nicely in virtualbox
+2019-08-08 21:18:56 younix i wish the reactos guy just worked on wine
+2019-08-08 21:19:13 younix windows with a decent kernel ftw
+2019-08-08 21:19:23 TechEmporium lol
+2019-08-08 21:19:32 TechEmporium GNU/NT?
+2019-08-08 21:19:33 truth does he not?
+2019-08-08 21:19:35 younix hahah
+2019-08-08 21:19:44 younix Gnu/Lindows
+2019-08-08 21:19:54 younix oh, i dunno...
+2019-08-08 21:19:55 truth I think reactos uses some wine code and sends patches upstream
+2019-08-08 21:20:02 younix sweet! nevermind then
+2019-08-08 21:20:06 TechEmporium ReactOS & WINE work together
+2019-08-08 21:20:10 younix yay \o/
+2019-08-08 21:20:43 younix which version of windows does reactos target for compatabilitiy?
+2019-08-08 21:20:48 TechEmporium XP
+2019-08-08 21:20:52 younix nice
+2019-08-08 21:20:59 younix windows' peak
+2019-08-08 21:21:11 TechEmporium It's the last version to not have telemetry
+2019-08-08 21:21:20 TechEmporium Or security :P
+2019-08-08 21:21:24 younix or steve ballmer
+2019-08-08 21:21:35 TechEmporium Christ
+2019-08-08 21:22:09 TechEmporium https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMU0tzLwhbE
+2019-08-08 21:22:10 BitBot [Youtube] Developers (03:02) uploaded by 1doony4u, 5,622,872 views (67225↑↓5851) https://youtu.be/KMU0tzLwhbE
+2019-08-08 21:22:22 younix WWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO GIVE IT UP FOR MEEEEEEEE
+2019-08-08 21:22:49 TechEmporium lol
+2019-08-08 21:23:41 younix here's another: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhMD1SN8SWs
+2019-08-08 21:23:42 BitBot [Youtube] email (14:57) uploaded by worrydream, 643 views (8↑↓0) https://youtu.be/EhMD1SN8SWs
+2019-08-08 21:26:00 TechEmporium lmfao
+2019-08-08 21:26:12 younix did you skip ahead a bit?
+2019-08-08 21:26:20 younix there's a slow-burn effect
+2019-08-08 21:26:41 TechEmporium lol
+2019-08-08 21:26:53 TechEmporium I was listening through it
+2019-08-08 21:27:32 TechEmporium A classic like this is something you're supposed to sit through for the whole 15 minutes of it :P
+2019-08-08 21:28:04 younix it is hypnotic
+2019-08-08 21:28:13 TechEmporium In stark contrast to Stallman picking his toenail fungus & eating it
+2019-08-08 21:28:29 younix ewww
+2019-08-08 21:28:42 younix that man must have a strong immune system
+2019-08-08 21:29:33 praetor uh oh. lol. I did something to anger it
+2019-08-08 21:29:37 younix here's another one that's fun to listen to on loop for hours: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G93s1AqPe1Y
+2019-08-08 21:29:37 BitBot [Youtube] Ytmnd - Arnold's got hoes (00:39) uploaded by Aldiggy2000, 213 views (3↑↓0) https://youtu.be/G93s1AqPe1Y
+2019-08-08 21:29:45 --> ctl1 (ctl) (~ctl@159.69.146.152) has joined #meta
+2019-08-08 21:30:26 TechEmporium 25 seconds into it lol
+2019-08-08 21:39:41 npa email, baby that's number 1
+2019-08-08 21:42:16 TechEmporium https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtuDS0ntaJY
+2019-08-08 21:42:17 BitBot [Youtube] Microsoft Windows 1.0 with Steve Ballmer (1986) (01:12) uploaded by kreftovich1, 221,051 views (1301↑↓62) https://youtu.be/EtuDS0ntaJY
+2019-08-08 21:42:34 praetor rip
+2019-08-08 21:42:40 praetor my radio software won't run :c
+2019-08-08 21:42:51 TechEmporium What software are you using?
+2019-08-08 21:43:05 praetor its for my DMR radio from radioddity
+2019-08-08 21:43:20 TechEmporium Ooh...
+2019-08-08 21:43:41 TechEmporium How did the software ship with the radio? Or did it?
+2019-08-08 21:43:48 <-- ctl1 (~ctl@159.69.146.152) has quit (quit: WeeChat 2.5)
+2019-08-08 21:43:58 TechEmporium Also, what's your call sign?
+2019-08-08 21:44:21 praetor KG5IWR
+2019-08-08 21:44:32 praetor you download it off their website
+2019-08-08 21:44:35 praetor the installer pukes
+2019-08-08 21:44:46 TechEmporium Mine's VE3DBO
+2019-08-08 21:45:07 TechEmporium Also, can you link me to the download? It might simply be a compatibility problem
+2019-08-08 21:46:29 praetor https://www.radioddity.com/pages/radioddity-download
+2019-08-08 21:46:31 BitBot [Title] Radioddity Download - https://ttm.sh/II
+2019-08-08 21:46:37 praetor it's the GD-55 Plus
+2019-08-08 21:48:47 TechEmporium I'm going to have a look
+2019-08-08 21:48:51 praetor it's because the minimum version is windows 7
+2019-08-08 21:49:23 praetor and reactos emulates windows server 2003, ie XP
+2019-08-08 21:49:28 TechEmporium Right
+2019-08-08 21:50:02 praetor meh. I'll fuck with this later. it's not a priority
+2019-08-08 21:57:26 younix i wonder how those callsigns are generated
+2019-08-08 21:57:35 younix do you get to pick from a set of them?
+2019-08-08 21:57:58 praetor if you want a vanity callsign you can
+2019-08-08 21:58:02 younix shouldn't there be linux radio software?
+2019-08-08 21:58:06 younix gnu slash radio
+2019-08-08 21:59:01 praetor callsigns are based on your geographic location and the year you took the test
+2019-08-08 21:59:21 younix oic
+2019-08-08 22:01:46 younix https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hg4YFuz6HT8
+2019-08-08 22:01:47 BitBot [Youtube] scrollbars (05:47) uploaded by worrydream, 3,267 views (45↑↓1) https://youtu.be/Hg4YFuz6HT8
+2019-08-08 22:13:06 younix https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1361002/
+2019-08-08 22:13:08 BitBot [Title] Meditation experience is associated with increased cortical thickness - https://ttm.sh/In
+2019-08-08 22:13:22 younix i should get my brain thicc
+2019-08-08 22:13:22 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-08 22:13:25 younix ,bef
+2019-08-08 22:13:25 BitBot [Ducks] younix befriended a duck in 2.82 seconds! You've befriended 8 ducks in #meta!
+2019-08-08 22:23:13 TechEmporium I know in Canada, you have multiple callsign prefixes based on province
+2019-08-08 22:23:50 younix ah
+2019-08-08 22:23:56 TechEmporium Every Canadian callsign starts with V as the first digit & the second designates the province
+2019-08-08 22:24:21 younix does that mean K is the US?
+2019-08-08 22:24:21 TechEmporium VE3DBO, in my case, designates me as being in Southern Ontario, Canada
+2019-08-08 22:24:26 TechEmporium K & W are US
+2019-08-08 22:24:31 younix makes sense
+2019-08-08 22:24:51 echelon K is West of the Mississippi
+2019-08-08 22:24:55 echelon W is East
+2019-08-08 22:25:00 echelon with a few exceptions
+2019-08-08 22:25:03 younix logical :)
+2019-08-08 22:25:25 TechEmporium The thing is that K & W prefixes in the US are used for both commercial & for amateur radio, while in Canada, V's restricted to amateur radio & C is for commercial radio
+2019-08-08 22:25:51 younix does that include radio stations, like WFMU
+2019-08-08 22:25:54 TechEmporium Commercial radio stations also tend to use 4-digit callsigns
+2019-08-08 22:25:58 TechEmporium Yes it does
+2019-08-08 22:26:08 TechEmporium Ham radio uses 5 digits
+2019-08-08 22:26:10 younix KEXP
+2019-08-08 22:26:13 TechEmporium Sorry; 6
+2019-08-08 22:26:14 younix that's washington
+2019-08-08 22:26:18 younix WFMU is NYC
+2019-08-08 22:26:22 TechEmporium WNED is Buffalo NY
+2019-08-08 22:26:33 TechEmporium But CFMT is Toronto Ontario
+2019-08-08 22:26:43 TechEmporium Both are commercial TV stations
+2019-08-08 22:27:03 TechEmporium WGBH in Boston
+2019-08-08 22:27:10 younix neat
+2019-08-08 22:28:34 TechEmporium The thing as well to remember is that, by government mandate, all callsign owners have to be publicly known... Basically, when we display our callsigns, we're doxing ourselves
+2019-08-08 22:31:48 TechEmporium So that means that praetor could go into the Canadian database to look through my callsign to find my name & home address (& vice versa; I can do the same in the US database)
+2019-08-08 22:32:13 praetor yup
+2019-08-08 22:32:19 TechEmporium The typical tradition being that once radio hams establish communication, they eventually send each other postcards wishing each other 73
+2019-08-08 22:33:22 younix is there a tor for ham radio operators, where you have an algorithm that scambles your callsign?
+2019-08-08 22:34:08 younix what's a 73?
+2019-08-08 22:34:11 TechEmporium Legally, we can't or else we can get a $5000 fine & up to 2 years in prison lol
+2019-08-08 22:34:15 younix :o
+2019-08-08 22:34:21 praetor 73 just means best wishes
+2019-08-08 22:34:25 TechEmporium That too
+2019-08-08 22:34:28 younix :3
+2019-08-08 22:34:34 younix :7
+2019-08-08 22:34:40 younix :1
+2019-08-08 22:34:41 TechEmporium :^3
+2019-08-08 22:34:43 <-- jfaust (jfaust@tilde.team) has quit (quit: WeeChat 2.5)
+2019-08-08 22:34:44 praetor yeah. no encryption
+2019-08-08 22:34:55 younix what about innuendo
+2019-08-08 22:35:00 praetor nope
+2019-08-08 22:35:01 younix nudge nudge wink wink
+2019-08-08 22:35:05 younix lol
+2019-08-08 22:35:06 praetor they'll nail you for that too
+2019-08-08 22:35:21 younix cockney rhyming slang?
+2019-08-08 22:35:27 praetor but if you support trump, you can make all the assinine comments you want
+2019-08-08 22:35:45 TechEmporium No encryption, no false mayday signals, no dirty innuendos, no superfluous broadcasts (including advertisements & even playing music in the background)
+2019-08-08 22:36:09 TechEmporium All that can land you heavy fines or jail time
+2019-08-08 22:36:39 younix holy shit
+2019-08-08 22:36:49 younix can you swear?
+2019-08-08 22:37:39 TechEmporium Sure you can, just as long as it's in the context of general speech & not every second word of all of your sentences
+2019-08-08 22:38:37 TechEmporium No encryption because that implies you intend to use your license/certification to subvert the government (treason & sedition,) no false mayday signals because that diverts emergency responders from real issues, no dirty innuendos as some places have laws against sexual misconduct
+2019-08-08 22:38:59 younix can you read long strings of numbers?
+2019-08-08 22:39:23 TechEmporium No superfluous broadcasts (i.e.: no news, music, or advertisement) because that's then using your system for pirate radio
+2019-08-08 22:39:43 TechEmporium But you can generally shoot the shit, talk about technical stuff, pretty much what we're all doing here
+2019-08-08 22:39:45 younix what if i just started reading pi for 5 says
+2019-08-08 22:39:49 younix *days
+2019-08-08 22:39:56 younix will they fine you?
+2019-08-08 22:40:09 TechEmporium lmfao no, but you'll just fall asleep at the desk
+2019-08-08 22:40:16 younix what about random numbers?
+2019-08-08 22:40:20 praetor no. but you do have to identify yourself every 10 minutes
+2019-08-08 22:40:20 TechEmporium Sure
+2019-08-08 22:40:26 TechEmporium That too lol
+2019-08-08 22:40:36 younix what about numbers that seem random, but are actually a code
+2019-08-08 22:41:01 TechEmporium 3.141592654 *CQ CQ CQ This is Victor Echo Three Delta Bravo Oscar*
+2019-08-08 22:41:39 TechEmporium QSL Five Niner Niner
+2019-08-08 22:42:06 TechEmporium Until your signal drops because of solar spots, magnetic interference, some squirrel molesting your antenna, etc.
+2019-08-08 22:42:15 younix "We're in hot pursuit of the suspect, license plate EGGPLANT XERCES CRYBABY OVERBITE NARWHAL"
+2019-08-08 22:42:31 TechEmporium Christ... He went full CB radio on us
+2019-08-08 22:42:33 younix why did you round pi?
+2019-08-08 22:42:48 TechEmporium Because I had to broadcast my callsign :P
+2019-08-08 22:43:04 younix but... then you can't continue
+2019-08-08 22:44:27 TechEmporium Yes lol
+2019-08-08 22:44:44 praetor I have to go shower because I have a psych appointment, but I don't wanna
+2019-08-08 22:45:21 TechEmporium You've got to do what you've got to do. Just take it easy & be well
+2019-08-08 22:45:36 praetor yus. cuz I need my drugs
+2019-08-08 22:45:40 TechEmporium Hope it goes well for you
+2019-08-08 22:45:52 praetor oh, it's routine. I have to go every 3 months
+2019-08-08 22:46:25 praetor it will take me 2 hours to get there and only 15 to see her
+2019-08-08 22:46:42 younix phone it in
+2019-08-08 22:46:52 younix telehealth
+2019-08-08 22:47:03 praetor that's not real common with mental health
+2019-08-08 22:47:09 younix is she a ham radio operator?
+2019-08-08 22:47:20 praetor no. but she is a lesbian and I like her
+2019-08-08 22:47:23 praetor she's fun
+2019-08-08 22:47:26 younix oic
+2019-08-08 22:47:30 younix you two going out for drinks after?
+2019-08-08 22:47:40 praetor lol
+2019-08-08 22:48:03 younix might as well if it took you 2 hours to get there, and you only see her every 3 months
+2019-08-08 22:48:07 younix it's a big deal
+2019-08-08 22:48:20 younix do some karaoke :D
+2019-08-08 22:48:26 praetor yus!
+2019-08-08 22:48:48 TechEmporium My best friend's a lesbian too lol
+2019-08-08 22:49:28 younix psych appointments over skype is a thing in some places
+2019-08-08 22:50:16 younix our government's been experimenting with it for far flung populations in nunavut and such as well
+2019-08-08 22:50:47 younix i dunno why they'd need to do any experiments
+2019-08-08 22:50:54 younix how could it fail? :)
+2019-08-08 22:51:10 TechEmporium Because Nunavut isn't the best connected territory in the Arctic? :P
+2019-08-08 22:51:14 younix hahah
+2019-08-08 22:51:27 younix ok, the internet/software could definitely fail
+2019-08-08 22:51:54 younix skype hasn't been the same since microsoft forced all the connections through their server infrastructure
+2019-08-08 22:52:22 TechEmporium And forced Cortana
+2019-08-08 22:52:41 TechEmporium And if you decide to use a program to kill Windows 10 telemetry, it'll also kill Skype
+2019-08-08 22:53:24 praetor my old therapist said it's not real common because there is a lot of nuanse you miss over a skype call. body language says alot about internal state
+2019-08-08 22:54:03 praetor okay. I go shower now
+2019-08-08 22:54:04 praetor bbl
+2019-08-08 22:57:01 younix skype is pretty silly now that browsers have WebRTC
+2019-08-08 22:57:42 younix glhf praetor
+2019-08-08 22:57:53 TechEmporium What's also silly is that you can use Skype through a web browser, but it uses user agent detection to deny you service if you're a Firefox user
+2019-08-08 23:16:48 younix Lol
+2019-08-08 23:17:39 younix That sounds like the old Microsoft, before typescript and vs code and a chrome based internet explorer
+2019-08-08 23:17:59 younix Ballmer mode
+2019-08-08 23:25:35 --> begriffs [begriffs] (begriffs) (~begriffs@172.98.67.24) has joined #meta
+2019-08-08 23:27:29 TechEmporium Good old Trident browser engine... It couldn't even handle alpha-transparent PNG files properly
+2019-08-08 23:27:34 TechEmporium Always with a hot pink background
+2019-08-08 23:27:42 --> ahriman_inst (ahriman) (~ahriman@tilde.institute) has joined #meta
+2019-08-08 23:27:43 younix lol wat
+2019-08-08 23:27:50 <-- ahriman_inst (~ahriman@tilde.institute) has quit (quit: WeeChat 2.5)
+2019-08-08 23:27:52 younix could it do CSS alpha blending?
+2019-08-08 23:28:42 TechEmporium You'd have to use CSS or JavaScript to blend alpha transparency into PNG files using a 1px by 1px transparent GIF
+2019-08-08 23:29:18 younix wat
+2019-08-08 23:29:32 TechEmporium You didn't know?
+2019-08-08 23:29:37 younix nope
+2019-08-08 23:29:42 younix <- linux bubble
+2019-08-08 23:31:01 TechEmporium Trident browsers (IE 8 & older) could only process transparent GIF images properly, but PNG images using alpha transparency would always render with a hot pink background instead of a transparent one. So the workaround was to use a CSS or JavaScript hack to overwrite the hot pink with a 1x1 pixel transparent GIF
+2019-08-08 23:35:04 TechEmporium Oh my God... Steve Dotto's still alive & at it with his tech stuff
+2019-08-08 23:35:09 TechEmporium https://dottotech.com/old-photos-with-google-photos/
+2019-08-08 23:35:11 BitBot [Title] Old Photos with Google Photos • Dotto Tech - https://ttm.sh/IT
+2019-08-08 23:43:02 younix whoa, there's a note rendered into the video with a timestamp you can skip to
+2019-08-08 23:43:07 younix dude IS a technical wizard
+2019-08-08 23:43:51 TechEmporium lol
+2019-08-08 23:46:33 praetor ah. nice and clean and shaven
+2019-08-08 23:50:15 <-- kj8am (~kevin@cpe-24-93-124-129.columbus.res.rr.com) has quit (quit: leaving)
+2019-08-09 00:06:14 --> jack3 [jack3] (jack) (the_kink@pool-71-255-179-159.slsbmd.east.verizon.net) has joined #meta
+2019-08-09 00:06:30 younix https://twitter.com/cassidoo/status/1151265157709889536
+2019-08-09 00:06:32 BitBot [Title] Cassidy Williams on Twitter: "Adding a feature to a legacy codebase https://t.co/dF63tZIF0p" - https://ttm.sh/Ip
+2019-08-09 00:17:17 ~ahriman serious question
+2019-08-09 00:17:20 ~ahriman what day is it
+2019-08-09 00:17:22 ~ahriman ,time
+2019-08-09 00:17:23 BitBot [Time] Time for ahriman: 2019/08/09 00:17:22
+2019-08-09 00:17:46 ~ahriman no the weekday you fking nerd
+2019-08-09 00:18:12 ~ahriman okay it's thursday night / friday morning. thanks google.
+2019-08-09 00:25:48 younix ,g time
+2019-08-09 00:25:49 BitBot [Google] (time) https://time.com/
+2019-08-09 00:25:58 younix :(
+2019-08-09 00:26:15 login ,g time now
+2019-08-09 00:26:17 BitBot [Google] (time now) https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/uk
+2019-08-09 00:26:37 login this is poor, BitBot doesn't get Google's results above the results
+2019-08-09 00:27:07 younix To be expected
+2019-08-09 01:00:51 robdrake Hello #meta
+2019-08-09 01:02:17 login hello rob
+2019-08-09 01:03:08 login TechEmporium: that was the NSA's golden age
+2019-08-09 01:03:23 login browser updates not done often. not much cybersecurity. not much fuzzing and regular updates
+2019-08-09 01:04:04 login website makes had to work around the browser's idiosyncrasies and firefox wasn't able to displace internet explorer
+2019-08-09 01:04:10 login *website makers
+2019-08-09 01:04:41 login Google's market power in search and front-page advertising Chrome on google.com made it catapult to number 1 market share
+2019-08-09 01:04:55 login the browser was so much better that the ecosystem shifted to supporting Chrome features over IE features
+2019-08-09 01:05:14 login people were compelled to download Chrome to experience the website well, and internet explorer started seeming like a worse and worse experience
+2019-08-09 01:05:21 login a true transfer of power from ie to chrome
+2019-08-09 01:06:02 login a good analogue for how voting transfers power from one entity to another
+2019-08-09 01:06:02 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-09 01:06:07 login because of
+2019-08-09 01:06:12 login how people work
+2019-08-09 01:06:21 robdrake ,bef
+2019-08-09 01:06:22 BitBot [Ducks] robdrake befriended a duck in 19.41 seconds! You've befriended 15 ducks in #meta!
+2019-08-09 01:06:30 login If the people believe in you, you ... i was hoping no-one would notice the duck
+2019-08-09 01:06:39 login so that i could get a long-ived duck befriend
+2019-08-09 01:06:50 robdrake sorry login
+2019-08-09 01:08:17 robdrake I'm still at the bottom of the friends, list, but trying to stay on it
+2019-08-09 01:10:08 robdrake and I'm going to go back to learning Typescript via Phaser 3
+2019-08-09 01:11:21 login no worries, you're well within your right
+2019-08-09 01:11:36 login I know what Typescript is, but I don't know what Phaser 3 is.
+2019-08-09 01:11:43 login Bottom of the friends, list, meaning?
+2019-08-09 01:11:52 login trying to stay on the friends, list,?
+2019-08-09 01:12:00 login why the comma after friends and after list?
+2019-08-09 01:12:08 robdrake Phaser 3, game library, and duck friends list
+2019-08-09 01:12:12 login ah
+2019-08-09 01:12:15 login ,duckfriends
+2019-08-09 01:12:15 BitBot login: Unknown command. Did you mean ,friends?
+2019-08-09 01:12:17 login ,friends
+2019-08-09 01:12:18 BitBot [Ducks] Top duck friends: ben (150), jesopo (80), ahriman (54), fosslinux (45), demure (33), ubergeek (32), mushmouth (29), praetor (28), threv (24), robdrake (23)
+2019-08-09 01:12:25 login i'm not even on the list haha
+2019-08-09 01:12:36 login ben is prolific
+2019-08-09 01:12:39 login *b3n
+2019-08-09 01:12:41 login didn't want to ping
+2019-08-09 01:13:04 robdrake he's probably in bed anyway, 1:10am there
+2019-08-09 01:20:29 ~ahriman i plan on stopping at 69
+2019-08-09 01:20:48 ~ahriman i just want to see 'ahriman (69)' whenever it's called
+2019-08-09 01:22:25 ~ahriman https://twitter.com/valeriehalla/status/1159184688625225729
+2019-08-09 01:22:26 BitBot [Title] Normal Valerie on Twitter: "i love how pokemon region names are all fictionalized except the very first one which is named after the real area of japan it's based on, so it's like if you had a fantasy universe with such places as "faerieville" "the kingdom of cronklius" and "new jersey"" - https://ttm.sh/IA
+2019-08-09 01:22:52 ~ahriman that whole thread made me lol
+2019-08-09 01:24:26 npa ok, so debian is properly borked
+2019-08-09 01:24:43 npa nautilus or any gtk applications are refusing to open
+2019-08-09 01:25:04 npa darn that guide that just told me to change sources.list
+2019-08-09 01:25:16 ~ahriman how tf did you manage this npa
+2019-08-09 01:25:21 npa tried updating to sid
+2019-08-09 01:25:25 ~ahriman oh
+2019-08-09 01:25:30 npa from stretch
+2019-08-09 01:25:50 ~ahriman whew
+2019-08-09 01:27:06 ~ahriman wait earlier werent you backing up /home and reinstalling?
+2019-08-09 01:27:19 npa haven't gotten around to reinstalling
+2019-08-09 01:27:24 ~ahriman oh
+2019-08-09 01:27:26 npa was seeing if it was salvageable
+2019-08-09 01:27:52 npa i'm on the train, so it may be a bit hard to do on tethering
+2019-08-09 01:28:11 npa gotta go up to sydney to see a doc
+2019-08-09 01:28:26 ~ahriman getting that backiotomy i see
+2019-08-09 01:28:34 npa exactly
+2019-08-09 01:28:52 npa my proctologist has a tight schedule
+2019-08-09 01:28:58 ~ahriman HA
+2019-08-09 01:29:30 npa nah i think my arm got infected, i freaked out and thought i had sepsis so i went to hospi
+2019-08-09 01:29:35 npa they gave me antibiotics
+2019-08-09 01:29:41 npa and told me to go to the GP
+2019-08-09 01:29:56 npa GP = general practitioner (dunno if you use that phrase)
+2019-08-09 01:30:13 ~ahriman oh damn. bacterial infections are no joke. i nearly lost my right leg at the knee to one 3 years ago.
+2019-08-09 01:30:28 ~ahriman yeah we say GP or PCP (primary care physician, not phencyclidine)
+2019-08-09 01:30:46 npa > gotta go the to PCP for some PCP
+2019-08-09 01:30:56 ~ahriman i mean it IS an anaesthetic
+2019-08-09 01:31:10 npa also makes you eat other people's faces off
+2019-08-09 01:31:22 ~ahriman yeah that's one side effect
+2019-08-09 01:31:32 ~ahriman my doctor once offered me ketamine
+2019-08-09 01:31:39 npa out on the dancefloor?
+2019-08-09 01:31:48 ~ahriman haha
+2019-08-09 01:31:57 npa that would be cool to hang out with a doctor friend
+2019-08-09 01:32:15 ~ahriman he was one of those doctors who would write whatever script you wanted. young stoner doctor.
+2019-08-09 01:32:40 ~ahriman he said it would help with anxiety to go to the ketamine clinic. i said im sure it fucking would, doc.
+2019-08-09 01:33:02 npa was he getting kick backs or some shit
+2019-08-09 01:33:07 ~ahriman i didnt do it tho, for various reasons
+2019-08-09 01:33:24 ~ahriman idk. either kickbacks from shady pharma companies or he just liked to get people high
+2019-08-09 01:33:36 npa i read an article on chronic lyme and how there's shady doctor practises and shit
+2019-08-09 01:33:38 npa https://www.thecut.com/2019/07/what-happens-when-lyme-disease-becomes-an-identity.html
+2019-08-09 01:33:40 BitBot [Title] What Happens When Lyme Disease Becomes an Identity? - https://ttm.sh/I_
+2019-08-09 01:33:56 npa long, but a good article, nice insight into the insanity of "sponsored" doctors
+2019-08-09 01:34:01 ~ahriman "Oh dude, anxiety sucks. I'll give you some xanax. That should help, mannn"
+2019-08-09 01:34:16 npa i mean that does, doesn't it
+2019-08-09 01:34:19 ~ahriman whoa i thought that was a nipple
+2019-08-09 01:34:23 npa but xanax is pretty hardcore
+2019-08-09 01:34:39 robdrake I'm on 1mg Xanax 2x / day
+2019-08-09 01:34:44 npa b i g b a c k n i p p l e
+2019-08-09 01:34:48 ~ahriman yeah xanax for background anxiety is like giving someone heroin because they stubbed their toe
+2019-08-09 01:35:22 robdrake let me just say this, you all just know me on the Xanax
+2019-08-09 01:35:29 ~ahriman robdrake: thats about what he started me at. i haven't been on it in a long time.
+2019-08-09 01:36:22 robdrake of course I live in a crowded nursing home, with disturbed alzheimer's patients, plus those with dementia
+2019-08-09 01:36:32 ~ahriman like two months later "Oh it's not working huh. Uh, let's try 2mg twice a day". Next thing I know i was taking ~6 bars at a time and chewing them up
+2019-08-09 01:36:40 ~ahriman oof, that sounds anxiety inducing rob
+2019-08-09 01:37:28 ~ahriman i think i've been drunk on irc once since i started coming around the ~verse
+2019-08-09 01:37:35 robdrake I've always had anxiety problems, ruined my 2nd chance at school, first chance was ruined by immaturity and anxiety
+2019-08-09 01:37:37 ~ahriman i don't do drugs anymore
+2019-08-09 01:37:48 ~ahriman oof, i know the feeling robdrake
+2019-08-09 01:38:08 npa what's the boundary for being drunk?
+2019-08-09 01:38:14 npa like how many drinks is that
+2019-08-09 01:38:36 ~ahriman .08BAC according to most US law enforcement agencies, or 3 to 5 beers
+2019-08-09 01:38:40 robdrake well, BAC of .08 here in Missouri is DWI, less than 1 drink / hour
+2019-08-09 01:39:08 ~ahriman that's just what will get you arrested and doesn't account for tolerance
+2019-08-09 01:39:20 robdrake point ahriman
+2019-08-09 01:39:54 npa yeah i meant personally what you consider drunk
+2019-08-09 01:40:20 ~ahriman oh me? i never drink hardly. i get really silly after 2 beers these days when i do drink.
+2019-08-09 01:40:40 robdrake me, 6'4" and 296 lbs, but no tolerance and all the meds I'm on, alcohol is not a good mix
+2019-08-09 01:40:54 npa ya, never good to mix alc and the meds
+2019-08-09 01:41:35 robdrake Coffee may be brewing, don't know if I'll wake back up, but I need sleep again, later
+2019-08-09 01:41:41 ~ahriman night rob
+2019-08-09 01:41:47 npa nighty night
+2019-08-09 01:43:08 ~ahriman hey npa what is a cow pond
+2019-08-09 01:43:14 npa uh what
+2019-08-09 01:43:26 ~ahriman from the article: "In the summer, her kids built forts in the woods; they ice-skated on frozen cow ponds in the winter."
+2019-08-09 01:43:27 npa is that a euphemism
+2019-08-09 01:43:35 npa oh, dams?
+2019-08-09 01:43:42 npa like lakes in farms
+2019-08-09 01:43:44 ~ahriman im like imagining a rice paddy but with cows on vines
+2019-08-09 01:44:02 ~ahriman some farmer harvesting the season's cows
+2019-08-09 01:45:25 ~fosslinux Supp
+2019-08-09 01:45:51 npa hey foss
+2019-08-09 01:46:04 ~fosslinux hey npa
+2019-08-09 01:46:06 ~ahriman hey fossy
+2019-08-09 01:46:09 ~fosslinux how goes
+2019-08-09 01:46:12 ~fosslinux hiya ahriman
+2019-08-09 01:46:15 ~ahriman npa: do you have lyme disease in australia?
+2019-08-09 01:46:18 ~fosslinux heard about your interview yet?
+2019-08-09 01:46:18 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-09 01:46:22 ~fosslinux ,bef
+2019-08-09 01:46:22 BitBot [Ducks] fosslinux befriended a duck in 3.51 seconds! You've befriended 35 ducks in #meta!
+2019-08-09 01:46:28 ~ahriman yeah :/
+2019-08-09 01:46:44 ~fosslinux and?
+2019-08-09 01:47:01 ~ahriman i didn't get the job
+2019-08-09 01:47:07 ~fosslinux :(
+2019-08-09 01:47:37 ~fosslinux keep looking I'm sure you'll get something
+2019-08-09 01:47:42 ~fosslinux actually sorry
+2019-08-09 01:47:53 ~fosslinux im sure the company will find you something
+2019-08-09 01:47:57 ~ahriman they did compliment the shit out of me though. said the position has been open for two months and im the only one to get to the final interview
+2019-08-09 01:47:59 ~fosslinux its kinda their job
+2019-08-09 01:48:06 ~fosslinux o wow
+2019-08-09 01:48:09 ~fosslinux uh
+2019-08-09 01:48:22 ~fosslinux did someone else get the final interview too then?
+2019-08-09 01:48:26 ~ahriman no
+2019-08-09 01:48:43 npa i don't think we do ahriman
+2019-08-09 01:48:46 ~fosslinux ooooo is the position still open?
+2019-08-09 01:48:53 ~ahriman yeah it's still open
+2019-08-09 01:48:55 ~fosslinux I see
+2019-08-09 01:48:57 npa how'd you go with that blockchain stuff?
+2019-08-09 01:49:06 ~fosslinux never heard of such a system before tbh
+2019-08-09 01:49:23 ~fosslinux I thought all jobs were let's get applications and interviews and crap and choose the best one
+2019-08-09 01:49:33 npa nah, not always
+2019-08-09 01:49:39 ~fosslinux TIL
+2019-08-09 01:49:42 ~ahriman i wasn't able to concentrate most of the day but it looks like eosio should be super simple to work with
+2019-08-09 01:49:47 ~fosslinux well I don't know crap about implaument
+2019-08-09 01:49:51 ~ahriman i've been reading the documentation
+2019-08-09 01:49:51 ~fosslinux employment
+2019-08-09 01:50:00 npa sometimes they don't interview everyone too (lookup the secretary problem)
+2019-08-09 01:50:32 ~ahriman fosslinux: sometimes, like for this company, they're looking for the perfect candidate and have the ability to wait until they find that person
+2019-08-09 01:50:45 ~fosslinux yea right
+2019-08-09 01:50:50 ~ahriman like they need the position filled, but not right that second
+2019-08-09 01:52:12 ~fosslinux ,time vantablack
+2019-08-09 01:52:13 BitBot [Time] Time for vantablack: 2019/08/08 22:52:13
+2019-08-09 01:52:25 ~ahriman more like time for mumble to go down
+2019-08-09 01:52:28 ~ahriman amirite
+2019-08-09 01:52:40 ~fosslinux Lolll
+2019-08-09 02:01:19 npa my god my arm is itchy
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+2019-08-09 02:09:29 ~ahriman npa: prolly chronic lyme
+2019-08-09 02:09:37 ~ahriman this article you sent me is wild
+2019-08-09 02:10:44 ~ahriman lyme disease is real and it sucks and it makes me freak out when i get a tick but god damn there are some hypochondriacs
+2019-08-09 02:11:00 ~ahriman freak out because i don't want to get it <---
+2019-08-09 02:11:00 BitBot [Karma] freak out because i don't want to get it <- now has -1 karma
+2019-08-09 02:11:07 ~ahriman stfu bitbot
+2019-08-09 02:11:38 npa <--++
+2019-08-09 02:11:38 BitBot [Karma] <-- now has 1 karma
+2019-08-09 02:11:46 ~ahriman lol
+2019-08-09 02:12:28 ~ahriman srsly tho, it's gone with a round of antibiotics, i had no idea there were a group of people who claim anything and everything is lyme disease
+2019-08-09 02:13:14 npa this little fishy >( .) loves eating plankton (++)
+2019-08-09 02:13:23 npa CHOMP >( .) ++
+2019-08-09 02:13:23 BitBot [Karma] CHOMP >( .) now has 1 karma
+2019-08-09 02:14:12 npa it's the umbrella illness
+2019-08-09 02:14:22 npa everything and nothing can be attributed to it
+2019-08-09 02:14:59 ~ahriman so weird
+2019-08-09 02:15:21 npa the concept of Herxes also means if something doesn't immediately isn't working, it is working
+2019-08-09 02:15:37 npa if you feel bad from some pill, the pill is doing good!!
+2019-08-09 02:15:56 npa the ozone therapy described in that article is also nuts
+2019-08-09 02:16:36 npa I spoke to Younger a little over a year after she was first diagnosed, and she described the treatments she had undergone since then. Right away, she said, Lehman started her on around 30 supplements and began doing ozone therapy, a procedure in which blood is drawn, mixed with ozone, and then reinjected into the body. Younger did ozone for nine months or so, and it always made her feel worse.
+2019-08-09 02:16:38 npa “At first I was so okay with the Herxheimer reactions,†she said. “It’s part of healing. But I reached a point more recently where I really do just want to feel better in my everyday life.†So she stopped doing ozone and stopped some of the other drugs she was on, and lately she was getting injections of umbilical stem cells, plus thrice-weekly Rocephin IVs. She also goes on weeks-long
+2019-08-09 02:16:40 npa “water fasts†at healing centers. Her doctor doesn’t send her on those; she does them on her own, but she has met fellow Lyme patients that way. When you fast, “it starves the toxins,†she explained.
+2019-08-09 02:18:08 ~ahriman rocephrin sucks, also what the actual fuck
+2019-08-09 02:18:31 ~ahriman i keep trying to finish the article then going off on tangents looking shit up from the article
+2019-08-09 02:18:49 ~ahriman like "Morgellons" - jesus fucking christ
+2019-08-09 02:19:15 npa yea, nuts stuff
+2019-08-09 02:19:16 ~ahriman that's not a skin parasite we haven't found, that's crystal meth
+2019-08-09 02:19:28 npa ssh over tethering on this train has been surprisingly stable, even when going in tunnels
+2019-08-09 02:19:41 ~ahriman im surprised
+2019-08-09 02:19:54 ~ahriman usually i lose service on trains
+2019-08-09 02:20:15 npa i'm in the subwayie section of the train now
+2019-08-09 02:20:41 npa they have repeaters in the tunnels i think
+2019-08-09 02:20:44 npa well, surely!
+2019-08-09 02:23:08 ~ahriman nah it's prolly just superman whistling at the right frequency to amplify the packets through the rock and soil
+2019-08-09 02:24:22 npa that exactly why it's DC electricity
+2019-08-09 02:24:47 npa that explains*
+2019-08-09 02:26:12 ~ahriman it all makes sense now
+2019-08-09 02:27:11 npa ok, g2g, have to to this lame thing called walking
+2019-08-09 02:27:28 npa enjoy blockchain or lyme disease, whatever takes your fancy
+2019-08-09 02:27:55 ~ahriman ha
+2019-08-09 02:28:04 ~ahriman have fun
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+2019-08-09 02:41:34 hijackeel what blockchain stuff
+2019-08-09 02:45:58 <-- begriffs (~begriffs@172.98.67.24) has quit (quit: Leaving...)
+2019-08-09 02:47:07 ~ahriman ah, was thinking of doing some random shit with smart contracts so i can say i have experience with it when potential employers ask
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+2019-08-09 04:03:51 ~ahriman is the plural of retina retinas or retinae
+2019-08-09 04:04:23 ~ahriman wiktionary says both. great.
+2019-08-09 04:04:40 ~fosslinux loll
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+2019-08-09 04:07:31 ~ahriman i just sent this as feedback within keybase: "Please add a dark UI option. My eyes are burning. It's like staring at a welding torch. I like Keybase, though. Enough to deal with the UI's napalming of my optic nerve, so I'll keep using it even if there's never a dark UI option. But please, won't you think of the retinae?"
+2019-08-09 04:10:07 ~fosslinux Lmfao
+2019-08-09 04:14:54 hijackeel UI, UI, burning bright
+2019-08-09 04:15:00 hijackeel in the forests of the night
+2019-08-09 04:15:12 hijackeel what developer's hand or eye
+2019-08-09 04:15:26 hijackeel could frame thy fearful symmetry?
+2019-08-09 04:23:38 ~ahriman haha
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+2019-08-09 05:24:35 den1 guys just bought ~best
+2019-08-09 05:24:44 den1 lets make it better place
+2019-08-09 05:25:31 ~ahriman sounds gangsta
+2019-08-09 05:25:47 den1 hey do you want to recommend anything
+2019-08-09 05:26:06 ~ahriman sure! what am I recommending
+2019-08-09 05:26:27 den1 some stuff about how can i make my tilde good
+2019-08-09 05:26:33 ~ahriman ooo
+2019-08-09 05:26:49 den1 and where should i host my dns records
+2019-08-09 05:27:03 den1 which has great api
+2019-08-09 05:27:08 den1 except cloudflare
+2019-08-09 05:27:26 ~ahriman lol. i was typing out that i just use cloudflare for dns
+2019-08-09 05:27:44 ~ahriman i used to use cloudns
+2019-08-09 05:28:04 den1 round robin load balancing
+2019-08-09 05:28:07 den1 excuse me?
+2019-08-09 05:28:09 den1 xd
+2019-08-09 05:28:19 ~ahriman ?
+2019-08-09 05:28:28 den1 cloudns
+2019-08-09 05:28:33 den1 has a feature
+2019-08-09 05:28:34 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-09 05:28:36 den1 ,bef
+2019-08-09 05:28:36 BitBot [Ducks] den1 befriended a duck in 2.4 seconds! You've befriended 3 ducks in #meta!
+2019-08-09 05:28:46 ~ahriman wait that's listed as a feature?!
+2019-08-09 05:28:59 ~ahriman something that's literally just multiple A records??
+2019-08-09 05:29:14 ~ahriman i haven't gone to their site in ages so idk
+2019-08-09 05:29:15 den1 seen that on google index
+2019-08-09 05:29:43 den1 i also not need anycast
+2019-08-09 05:29:47 den1 i only have a server
+2019-08-09 05:29:50 den1 :/
+2019-08-09 05:29:55 den1 also bought a raspberry pi zero
+2019-08-09 05:30:28 den1 or instead of python script i will just fork tilde.club source code
+2019-08-09 05:30:55 den1 maybe implement features like home directory encryption
+2019-08-09 05:30:57 den1 in the future
+2019-08-09 05:37:36 ~ahriman im curious why you don't want to use cloudflare for dns? have you had a bad experience?
+2019-08-09 05:41:12 ~ahriman !toot https://i.redd.it/ddjvnu4qkaf31.jpg
+2019-08-09 05:41:13 tooter tooted! https://tilde.zone/@tildeverse/102586362950022217
+2019-08-09 05:45:19 den1 ,bef
+2019-08-09 05:45:20 BitBot [Ducks] den1: There was no duck!
+2019-08-09 05:45:42 den1 pull request first
+2019-08-09 05:46:03 den1 !toot never push to master without creating pull request
+2019-08-09 05:46:03 tooter tooted! https://tilde.zone/@tildeverse/102586382014762572
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+2019-08-09 06:02:12 kirk781 hello
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+2019-08-09 07:00:28 npa ahoy kirk781 den1
+2019-08-09 07:00:33 npa oh, he left, hrm
+2019-08-09 07:01:16 jesopo hi npal
+2019-08-09 07:02:13 npa heya jesopo
+2019-08-09 07:02:26 jesopo wagwan wam
+2019-08-09 07:02:28 jesopo wagwan fam
+2019-08-09 07:02:51 npa it good
+2019-08-09 07:03:02 npa just coming back from sydney to my parent's house
+2019-08-09 07:03:10 npa had to go see the doctor
+2019-08-09 07:03:29 npa i will /probably/ survive
+2019-08-09 07:03:39 npa whaddya up to?
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+2019-08-09 07:27:59 npa hello kirk781
+2019-08-09 07:34:31 kirk781 npa, hello
+2019-08-09 07:34:35 kirk781 ,np
+2019-08-09 07:34:37 BitBot [last.fm] kirk781 is listening to: King Crimson - Dr Diamond - https://youtu.be/ZmMJ0kyrZAU
+2019-08-09 07:34:41 kirk781 ,seen tomasino
+2019-08-09 07:34:42 BitBot [Seen] tomasino was last seen 15h 10m ago (* ~tomasino gives ducks to root)
+2019-08-09 07:35:01 ~tomasino Hi
+2019-08-09 07:36:52 kirk781 tomasino, watt's up.
+2019-08-09 07:36:53 kirk781 ,wea
+2019-08-09 07:36:53 BitBot kirk781: Unknown command. Did you mean ,wa?
+2019-08-09 07:36:57 kirk781 ,w
+2019-08-09 07:36:57 BitBot [Weather|kirk781] (Kharagpur, West Bengal, India) 30C/87F | Moderate Rain | Humidity: 71% | Wind: 11.0KMh/6.8MPh
+2019-08-09 07:39:26 ~tomasino Ikea
+2019-08-09 07:43:56 ~tomasino ,hug
+2019-08-09 07:43:57 BitBot [Ducks] tomasino: There was no duck!
+2019-08-09 07:47:19 kirk781 ,np
+2019-08-09 07:47:21 BitBot [last.fm] kirk781 is listening to: King Crimson - Starless (15 plays) (Progressive rock, epic, Progressive, beautiful, genius) - https://youtu.be/OfR6_V91fG8
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+2019-08-09 08:31:03 creme byobu-info
+2019-08-09 08:32:25 jesopo im not yr terminal
+2019-08-09 08:36:13 creme sorry. I just played with my byobu config. she also wanted to contact me;)
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+2019-08-09 08:38:32 creme https://git.envs.net/creme/dotfiles/src/branch/tilde
+2019-08-09 08:38:33 BitBot [Title] creme/dotfiles - dotfiles - envs.net - gitea - https://ttm.sh/Ij
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+2019-08-09 08:42:03 creme i rebuilt my dotfiles and now use stow (the idea i got from ben and tomasino) ;)
+2019-08-09 08:42:17 ~tomasino Woohoo
+2019-08-09 08:42:35 creme really great. I can really recommend.
+2019-08-09 08:43:13 creme heyho tomasion
+2019-08-09 08:43:22 creme *tomasino
+2019-08-09 08:43:23 creme sorry
+2019-08-09 08:43:31 ~tomasino ;)
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+2019-08-09 08:59:39 krowbar ohaio #meta
+2019-08-09 08:59:45 den1 ,bef
+2019-08-09 08:59:46 BitBot [Ducks] den1: There was no duck!
+2019-08-09 08:59:50 den1 gimme ducks
+2019-08-09 08:59:52 krowbar ,bin
+2019-08-09 08:59:52 BitBot krowbar: Unknown command. Did you mean ,in?
+2019-08-09 08:59:58 den1 ,bin
+2019-08-09 08:59:58 BitBot den1: Unknown command. Did you mean ,in?
+2019-08-09 09:00:03 krowbar but that duck in a bin, mate
+2019-08-09 09:00:07 kirk781 Hello
+2019-08-09 09:00:09 den1 ,beef
+2019-08-09 09:00:09 BitBot den1: Unknown command. Did you mean ,bef?
+2019-08-09 09:00:13 den1 ,beeeeeef
+2019-08-09 09:00:23 den1 ,adminmodepass123123123
+2019-08-09 09:00:26 den1 oh
+2019-08-09 09:00:31 den1 backdoor doesnt works
+2019-08-09 09:00:43 krowbar gotta try these things
+2019-08-09 09:00:57 den1 ,help
+2019-08-09 09:00:57 BitBot [Help] I'm https://bitbot.dev. use ',modules' to list modules, ',commands ' to list commands and ',help ' to see help text for a command
+2019-08-09 09:01:04 den1 ,commands
+2019-08-09 09:01:13 krowbar i'ma take me to #bots
+2019-08-09 09:01:14 den1 ,modules
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+2019-08-09 09:01:22 den1 ,commands admin
+2019-08-09 09:01:22 BitBot [Help] Commands for admin module: addserver, changenickname, connect, disconnect, editserver, part, raw, reconnect, shutdown
+2019-08-09 09:01:32 den1 ,disconnect
+2019-08-09 09:01:32 BitBot [Admin] You do not have permission to do that
+2019-08-09 09:01:40 -- den1 is now known as root
+2019-08-09 09:01:43 root im root
+2019-08-09 09:01:46 root ,disconnect
+2019-08-09 09:01:46 BitBot [Admin] You do not have permission to do that
+2019-08-09 09:01:49 root wow
+2019-08-09 09:01:54 root are u serious bitbot?
+2019-08-09 09:02:03 root do you want a rm -rf on your home directory?
+2019-08-09 09:02:20 -- root is now known as den1
+2019-08-09 09:03:02 jesopo go ahead
+2019-08-09 09:03:17 jesopo idk what you're trying to do to bitbot
+2019-08-09 09:03:24 jesopo but do your worst :p
+2019-08-09 09:03:30 den1 :D
+2019-08-09 09:03:32 den1 dev here
+2019-08-09 09:03:35 den1 respect bro
+2019-08-09 09:03:36 jesopo i wrote bitbot
+2019-08-09 09:03:37 den1 sorry
+2019-08-09 09:03:41 jesopo ground up
+2019-08-09 09:03:43 jesopo :P
+2019-08-09 09:03:49 den1 no backdoors?
+2019-08-09 09:03:55 den1 how much do you want to replace one xdxd
+2019-08-09 09:04:01 krowbar look for the dev exit
+2019-08-09 09:04:21 krowbar if you find anything den1 submit it to hackerone
+2019-08-09 09:04:25 den1 hey will use cloudflare at my tilde btw xdxd kinda sad
+2019-08-09 09:04:36 den1 krowbar what is highest bounty
+2019-08-09 09:04:46 * krowbar twists mustache
+2019-08-09 09:04:53 den1 lol
+2019-08-09 09:05:05 krowbar there's a thin line between "bounty" and "extortion"
+2019-08-09 09:05:42 jesopo why would i put a backdoor in
+2019-08-09 09:05:50 jesopo i run it on my server
+2019-08-09 09:05:57 jesopo i have absolute admin power over it
+2019-08-09 09:06:04 jesopo ,raw PRIVMSG #meta :sup
+2019-08-09 09:06:04 BitBot sup
+2019-08-09 09:06:37 den1 jk
+2019-08-09 09:07:27 jesopo https://git.io/bitbot
+2019-08-09 09:07:29 BitBot [Title] GitHub - jesopo/bitbot: https://bitbot.dev | Python3 event-driven modular IRCv3 bot 🤖 - https://ttm.sh/It
+2019-08-09 09:07:31 jesopo if you want to check out the source code
+2019-08-09 09:07:38 den1 i know
+2019-08-09 09:07:42 den1 and checked
+2019-08-09 09:07:45 den1 *just cool*
+2019-08-09 09:10:23 --> jack3 [jack3] (jack) (the_kink@pool-71-255-179-159.slsbmd.east.verizon.net) has joined #meta
+2019-08-09 09:19:17 creme already really crazy what jess has hacked there together.
+2019-08-09 09:20:09 jesopo bitbot is like. 3 years old
+2019-08-09 09:20:15 jesopo this version of bitbot at lesat
+2019-08-09 09:20:17 jesopo least*
+2019-08-09 09:20:21 jesopo there were previous versions
+2019-08-09 09:22:32 creme nice job jess! i like BitBot
+2019-08-09 09:22:47 creme ,botsnack biscuite
+2019-08-09 09:22:47 * BitBot cronch
+2019-08-09 09:22:56 * krowbar pats BitBot
+2019-08-09 09:23:59 * creme BitBot like a pet
+2019-08-09 09:27:22 den1 ,botsnack
+2019-08-09 09:27:22 * BitBot wriggles excitedly
+2019-08-09 09:27:28 den1 ,botsnack nothing
+2019-08-09 09:27:28 * BitBot munch
+2019-08-09 09:27:34 den1 ,botsnack nothing
+2019-08-09 09:27:34 * BitBot wriggles excitedly
+2019-08-09 09:27:52 den1 ,botsnack
+2019-08-09 09:27:52 * BitBot wriggles excitedly
+2019-08-09 09:27:55 den1 ,botsnack
+2019-08-09 09:27:55 * BitBot cronch
+2019-08-09 09:28:02 den1 sorry #meta
+2019-08-09 09:32:10 younix [Karma] <-- now has 1 karma
+2019-08-09 09:32:12 younix Lol
+2019-08-09 09:34:48 younix When you fast, “it starves the toxins,†she explained.
+2019-08-09 09:34:53 younix Sweet Jesus
+2019-08-09 09:35:07 younix Somebody give that woman xanax
+2019-08-09 09:40:07 krowbar or sympathy and patience.
+2019-08-09 09:40:21 younix !toot toot toot
+2019-08-09 09:40:21 tooter tooted! https://tilde.zone/@tildeverse/102587303297737669
+2019-08-09 09:42:40 <-- kirk781 (~kirk781@203.110.242.4) has quit (quit: Leaving)
+2019-08-09 09:44:00 ~ben goob mornign
+2019-08-09 09:44:06 ~ben "starves the toxins"
+2019-08-09 09:44:09 ~ben good grief
+2019-08-09 09:44:34 younix Top o' the marnin to ye ben
+2019-08-09 09:44:38 ~ben :'3
+2019-08-09 09:44:40 ~ben how goes it
+2019-08-09 09:44:43 ~ben tgif
+2019-08-09 09:44:49 ~ben half day at work today too !
+2019-08-09 09:44:59 younix Holy smokes
+2019-08-09 09:46:45 ~ubergeek noice
+2019-08-09 09:46:45 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-09 09:46:48 ~ben ,bef
+2019-08-09 09:46:48 BitBot [Ducks] ben befriended a duck in 2.94 seconds! You've befriended 122 ducks in #meta!
+2019-08-09 09:46:58 ~ubergeek we get half days prior to long weekends here
+2019-08-09 09:47:12 ~ubergeek Or before a company holiday
+2019-08-09 09:47:19 ~ubergeek It's pretty nice
+2019-08-09 09:48:12 younix https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OD_XjEYlg2I
+2019-08-09 09:48:13 BitBot [Youtube] People Vs Apes 2011 (audio only) (06:38) uploaded by ParticleMen, 2,363 views (207↑↓3) https://youtu.be/OD_XjEYlg2I
+2019-08-09 09:50:36 ~ben it's the it dept summer party thing
+2019-08-09 09:50:52 ~ben but there's alcohol so it should be fun
+2019-08-09 09:51:02 ~ben and it's done by 2
+2019-08-09 09:52:00 login 2 am or 2 pm?
+2019-08-09 09:52:18 <-- den1 (den@tilde.team) has quit (quit: WeeChat 2.5)
+2019-08-09 09:52:25 ~ben pm
+2019-08-09 09:52:34 login you mean work is done by 2 pm?
+2019-08-09 09:55:21 ~ben yeah they told us not to come back
+2019-08-09 10:00:13 ~ubergeek I don't think many of our summer work parties get done until 2AM
+2019-08-09 10:00:34 ~ubergeek being in the office the next day is glorious, if you didn't go to the party, or left at a reasonable time haaha
+2019-08-09 10:01:51 ~ben lol
+2019-08-09 10:02:50 krowbar ubergeek: what's the holiday?
+2019-08-09 10:02:57 <-- BitBot (bitbot@bitbot.dev) has quit (quit: upgrades)
+2019-08-09 10:03:23 ~ubergeek Friday? :P
+2019-08-09 10:03:37 --> BitBot [BitBot] (BitBot) (bitbot@bitbot.dev) has joined #meta
+2019-08-09 10:03:41 ~ubergeek But srsly, nothing this week for me. Just a normal day
+2019-08-09 10:03:45 krowbar ben: well that could be taken ominously. "well, i hope you enjoyed the party... don't come back"
+2019-08-09 10:04:27 krowbar we sometimes also get let out early for good behavior. today is a company outing baseball game. so i may bugger off a bit early even though i'm not going to that
+2019-08-09 10:04:51 ~ben nice
+2019-08-09 10:06:09 ~ben they already fired a bunch of people last week so I think we're good for now
+2019-08-09 10:06:59 krowbar oh snap that's not good :<
+2019-08-09 10:07:37 ~ben it was the 2nd reorg of the year
+2019-08-09 10:07:46 ~ben first one that ever included people being fired
+2019-08-09 10:13:51 krowbar that always leaves a sour taste... we lost a *very* well liked and respected upper management dude when they re-org'd him out of his position. they offered a demotion or severance package
+2019-08-09 10:14:26 krowbar and he left to work at a tangentially related competitor
+2019-08-09 10:16:05 appll Happy Friday ~!
+2019-08-09 10:16:28 * krowbar gives a weak cheer
+2019-08-09 10:19:03 krowbar Pet peve: either simple if/elseif or switch/case blocks that differ only by the index value checked in the if/case line. it's the same thing! don't copy-paste it 18 times!
+2019-08-09 10:20:26 bkhl krowbar, you must love Python then. ;-)
+2019-08-09 10:20:54 krowbar i do enoy python, but why do you say that?
+2019-08-09 10:21:31 krowbar i'm not able to pick up if that was sarcasm or not since you didn't use a winky
+2019-08-09 10:23:03 younix Hah! Patton Oswalt is part of red letter media now
+2019-08-09 10:23:20 krowbar ,whois Patton Oswalt
+2019-08-09 10:24:11 younix https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4s0KT_z98A
+2019-08-09 10:24:14 BitBot [Youtube] Best of the Worst: Plinketto #8 (01:03:48) uploaded by RedLetterMedia, 602,263 views (26663↑↓902) https://youtu.be/t4s0KT_z98A
+2019-08-09 10:24:44 krowbar well that's rather dark for a kid's show https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/allthemoms/2019/05/03/patton-oswalt-reflects-wifes-death-new-my-little-pony-episode/3651074002/
+2019-08-09 10:24:46 BitBot [Title] Patton Oswalt reflects on wife's death in new 'My Little Pony' episode - https://ttm.sh/Ic
+2019-08-09 10:26:42 younix Some kids have to deal with dark shit
+2019-08-09 10:37:53 --> den1 (den) (den@tilde.team) has joined #meta
+2019-08-09 10:38:18 den1 hi #meta
+2019-08-09 10:38:26 den1 i get in touch for sponsorship with upcloud
+2019-08-09 10:38:32 den1 they are asking for number of users
+2019-08-09 10:38:41 den1 how many of #meta wants to join ~best
+2019-08-09 10:40:26 younix There's a tilde.best?
+2019-08-09 10:40:35 den1 yep
+2019-08-09 10:41:05 ~ubergeek hehe Is it the best tilde?
+2019-08-09 10:41:14 den1 maybe
+2019-08-09 10:41:23 younix Best of the worst
+2019-08-09 10:41:29 den1 maybe
+2019-08-09 10:41:59 ~ben what's upcloud?
+2019-08-09 10:42:02 den1 lol
+2019-08-09 10:42:06 jesopo hi b3n
+2019-08-09 10:42:12 ~ben h1 j3s0p0
+2019-08-09 10:42:14 ~ben how u
+2019-08-09 10:42:39 younix I wonder what the crappiest hardware you could make a tilde out of is... Does anyone have a potato powered Linux server?
+2019-08-09 10:43:33 younix Hay jes
+2019-08-09 10:43:41 ~ben tildeseanix.com
+2019-08-09 10:43:51 ~ben probly
+2019-08-09 10:44:10 ~ben idk what the domain was
+2019-08-09 10:44:19 ~ben deepend: what was the domain for seanix tilde
+2019-08-09 10:44:25 den1 guys please tell me if you want to join
+2019-08-09 10:44:35 ~ben you could easily run one on a pi
+2019-08-09 10:44:42 ~ubergeek I think someone has a tilde running on a pi micro
+2019-08-09 10:44:46 den1 but upcloud is better
+2019-08-09 10:44:52 ~ben gopher://colorfield.space
+2019-08-09 10:44:54 ~ubergeek What is upcloud?
+2019-08-09 10:44:59 den1 vps provider
+2019-08-09 10:45:03 ~ben i've never heard of upcloud
+2019-08-09 10:45:08 den1 with highest rate of iops
+2019-08-09 10:45:10 den1 based on fi
+2019-08-09 10:45:18 ~ubergeek highest among whom?
+2019-08-09 10:45:28 ~ubergeek I can get 10,000 iops in ec2
+2019-08-09 10:45:30 den1 do aws linode vultr
+2019-08-09 10:45:38 ~ubergeek (Pay through the nose, but I can get it)
+2019-08-09 10:47:13 den1 so how many xd
+2019-08-09 10:49:51 den1 i can promise of that: ~best will do their best to make it best ~ , ~best will respect your privacy and security, ~best will allow home directory encryption
+2019-08-09 10:50:14 younix Colorfield is cute
+2019-08-09 10:51:43 krowbar i've found the ability to read other people home dirs to be a real charming part of tildes
+2019-08-09 10:51:59 den1 you can make your home public
+2019-08-09 10:52:01 den1 if u want
+2019-08-09 10:52:23 krowbar there are so many cool projects people are working on it feels like strolling through a public garden
+2019-08-09 10:52:32 younix krowbar: now you know how the NSA feels
+2019-08-09 10:52:43 younix The whole world is charming to them
+2019-08-09 10:52:50 krowbar i doubt they have the same sense of wonder and excitement
+2019-08-09 10:53:04 younix Probably for the first week they do
+2019-08-09 10:53:43 TechEmporium Don't get me starterd about the NSA
+2019-08-09 10:53:49 krowbar !acronym NSA
+2019-08-09 10:53:50 banterbot NSA: "National Security Agency", "No Strings Attached", "National Swoloball Association", "NATO (North Atlantic Treaty Organization) Standardization Agency", "Nursing Students Association", "Nurture's Sobs Artisans"
+2019-08-09 10:53:51 younix Ok
+2019-08-09 10:54:12 younix Left out the actual definition, "no such agency"
+2019-08-09 10:54:20 krowbar ooh, that's a good one
+2019-08-09 10:54:46 TechEmporium So many projects, so many things that the NSA wants to contribute to in open source software, so many deliberately obfuscated contributions they make to purposely insert security backdoors & bugs
+2019-08-09 10:54:53 den1 !acronym GCHQ
+2019-08-09 10:54:53 banterbot GCHQ: "Government Communications HeadQuarters", "Genus's Chute Harlots Quashes"
+2019-08-09 10:54:54 younix If you notice, people who work there don't call it *the* NSA, just NSA
+2019-08-09 10:55:16 younix Which means they are calling it "no such agency" in their heads
+2019-08-09 10:55:55 younix TechEmporium: how else will they protect us?
+2019-08-09 10:56:03 younix *US
+2019-08-09 10:56:07 younix not us
+2019-08-09 10:56:14 TechEmporium lol Look at their contributions to Coreboot & Libreboot
+2019-08-09 10:56:40 den1 they probably use it
+2019-08-09 10:56:43 younix I hate reading c code... Can you summarize?
+2019-08-09 10:56:53 den1 to make theirs nsa-proof
+2019-08-09 10:57:15 TechEmporium If you can safely audit the code to these projects & not get confused as to what NSA's code actually does, then you know they haven't contributed any deliberate bugs to cause a security backdoor
+2019-08-09 10:57:40 younix Makes sense
+2019-08-09 10:58:08 TechEmporium Basically, trying to encourage kernel-level backdoors that can interact with the CPU-level backdoors that exist in Intel chips
+2019-08-09 10:58:15 younix Unless they want you to *think* there's a backdoor, when the code is actually totally solid
+2019-08-09 10:58:38 younix Gotta confuse the enemy
+2019-08-09 10:58:42 TechEmporium It's also why OpenBSD deliberately doesn't work with hyperthreading
+2019-08-09 10:59:00 younix Theoooo
+2019-08-09 10:59:59 younix What's interesting is that standard pc hardware can be made secure
+2019-08-09 11:00:10 TechEmporium Spectre & Meltdown?
+2019-08-09 11:00:16 TechEmporium Look them up
+2019-08-09 11:00:33 younix Evidenced by the NSA's AMT disabler bit in the Intel PC firmware
+2019-08-09 11:00:37 TechEmporium They're hardware-level security vulnerabilities in all Intel chips with hyperthreading
+2019-08-09 11:00:43 younix Yep
+2019-08-09 11:00:46 ~ahriman NSA has conflicting internal goals. simultaneously to protect government tech infra, which depends on third-party software and hardware that they're trying to weaken
+2019-08-09 11:00:48 TechEmporium Touted as "bugs"
+2019-08-09 11:00:50 younix But as you said, they can be disabled
+2019-08-09 11:01:34 TechEmporium Spectre can be disabled by disabling hyperthreading, or patching the OS so that you can still use hyperthreading, but without risking the bug from taking the system
+2019-08-09 11:02:02 TechEmporium OpenBSD disables hyperthreading, but Windows & Linux has a kernel patch
+2019-08-09 11:02:18 TechEmporium macOS has nothing for it
+2019-08-09 11:02:48 TechEmporium https://meltdownattack.com/
+2019-08-09 11:02:49 BitBot [Title] Meltdown and Spectre - https://ttm.sh/IL
+2019-08-09 11:03:46 TechEmporium And now thre's a second variant of Spectre
+2019-08-09 11:03:54 ~ahriman really?
+2019-08-09 11:04:00 TechEmporium There's Spectre, Meltdown & Spectre Variant 1
+2019-08-09 11:04:05 younix TechEmporium: NSA employees give good talks on how to actually secure systems... I saw one guy go through Google's micro kernel and point out glaring security deficiencies... Another guy was talking about how, 20 years ago, they wrote a patch to protect against a ring -2 system hijack
+2019-08-09 11:04:43 younix I think that's what they added to coreboot, because the attack is totally obsolete now, and only used by adversaries
+2019-08-09 11:05:09 younix They have to protect us industry, remember
+2019-08-09 11:05:13 TechEmporium I know, younix. They give great lectures & write great papers on how to secure systems, while all in the meanwhile they contribute code to deliberately make them insecure at best & impossible to secure at worst (that's why you don't do spaghetti code in an open source project)
+2019-08-09 11:05:50 younix If they can't get into other people's important servers and secure them, then they can't stop people from attacking friendly companies
+2019-08-09 11:06:05 TechEmporium Like how the CIA claimed they were "liberating" Tibet in 1956, only to end up causing China to invade the country completely
+2019-08-09 11:06:06 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-09 11:06:09 krowbar ,bef
+2019-08-09 11:06:09 BitBot [Ducks] krowbar befriended a duck in 3.31 seconds! You've befriended 6 ducks in #meta!
+2019-08-09 11:06:10 TechEmporium ,bef
+2019-08-09 11:06:10 BitBot [Ducks] TechEmporium: There was no duck!
+2019-08-09 11:06:15 TechEmporium Damn it
+2019-08-09 11:06:19 younix TechEmporium: it's a balancing act
+2019-08-09 11:06:21 krowbar i just looked over
+2019-08-09 11:06:33 TechEmporium lol
+2019-08-09 11:06:54 TechEmporium The damn it was about befriending the duck lol
+2019-08-09 11:07:30 younix TechEmporium: they have to be able to stop spies in their home country, so the need attack capabilities, *and* they have to protect systems in the home country, so they need to be able to lock down key systems too
+2019-08-09 11:07:40 krowbar well this is unfortunate but not unexpected https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-49252501
+2019-08-09 11:07:41 BitBot [Title] Black Hat: GDPR privacy law exploited to reveal personal data - BBC News - https://ttm.sh/I5
+2019-08-09 11:08:10 TechEmporium Right, but they also need to attack computers i their own home country & their allies', as they've been doing since 2001 & the PATRIOT act
+2019-08-09 11:08:23 younix They could manufacture two tiers of hardware -- secure and insecure -- but it's cheaper to make one kind that has so many confusing and complex behaviors
+2019-08-09 11:08:43 younix TechEmporium: I just said that
+2019-08-09 11:08:58 login the really secure kind of hardware gets made to go to the moon for nasa
+2019-08-09 11:09:05 younix Lol
+2019-08-09 11:09:06 login 14 errors in total, wow
+2019-08-09 11:09:15 TechEmporium That's why coreboot & every other effort to make an open source security model is getting compromised, including Tor, coreboot & libreboot
+2019-08-09 11:09:22 TechEmporium I wouldn't be surprised if IPFS is next
+2019-08-09 11:09:28 login how are they getting compromised?
+2019-08-09 11:09:37 <-- petard (~petard@tilde.team) has quit (quit: WeeChat 2.5)
+2019-08-09 11:09:52 younix TechEmporium: remember that they're about 15 years ahead of the public
+2019-08-09 11:09:57 TechEmporium Tor has already been compromised through the abuse of exit nodes & proxies within the pathways
+2019-08-09 11:10:05 TechEmporium I know lol
+2019-08-09 11:10:24 younix They probably have cracked the crypto already
+2019-08-09 11:10:30 younix It's all clear text
+2019-08-09 11:10:50 southerntofu TechEmporium: sure they try to compromise it but still we're building a better status quo
+2019-08-09 11:10:52 TechEmporium But Tor being compromised in this manner is well known & it's also how the Silk Road onion site was taken down
+2019-08-09 11:11:20 younix Silk road was terrible opsec
+2019-08-09 11:11:36 southerntofu going through exit nodes is not the best, but it's not worst than connecting directly to your service, and .onion services have very very strong safety concerns baked in
+2019-08-09 11:11:48 TechEmporium southerntofu: that's the problem... People are trying to build something better, while allowing NSA to have access to this code, which they "contribute" to by sabotaging the security that was originally intended
+2019-08-09 11:12:06 TechEmporium Going through exit nodes is literally the same as a proxy
+2019-08-09 11:12:07 southerntofu so closing down the code is a security measure? lol
+2019-08-09 11:12:07 younix And/or a corrupt agent who faked the whole murder attempt thing
+2019-08-09 11:12:12 TechEmporium Yup
+2019-08-09 11:12:23 southerntofu TechEmporium: the same but with more hops so more difficulty to correlate traffic
+2019-08-09 11:12:46 TechEmporium Difficult, but not impossible; that's what I mean by Tor & HTTPS actually being placebo
+2019-08-09 11:12:52 younix TechEmporium: but remember, if it can be sabotaged, it can also be secured
+2019-08-09 11:13:02 southerntofu TechEmporium: it's not placebo if it protects you from 99% of intruders
+2019-08-09 11:13:28 younix There are secret security backdoors as well
+2019-08-09 11:13:28 southerntofu like a locked door, it doesn't have to stop the 1% people determined enough to break through it
+2019-08-09 11:13:33 southerntofu just make it so 99% don't
+2019-08-09 11:13:41 younix Or, vault doors
+2019-08-09 11:13:44 TechEmporium younix: Yes, provided that the contributors outside of the NSA are intelligent & proactive enough to catch the bugs they put in
+2019-08-09 11:13:52 southerntofu (i mean i'm not a big fan of doors and locks in general but i feel like the metaphor stands)
+2019-08-09 11:14:06 younix southerntofu: indeed
+2019-08-09 11:14:21 southerntofu TechEmporium: sure, and moving away from ambiguous and/or error-prone programming languages can help in this regard
+2019-08-09 11:14:50 TechEmporium southerntofu: the point of a locked door is to keep out 100% of intruders. However, Tor wasn't exactly made to block out intruders, as much as it was made to keep law enforcement agencies (corrupt or not) from accessing your data transmissions
+2019-08-09 11:14:52 younix So many things that were known in the 80s that we can do
+2019-08-09 11:14:58 TechEmporium And now 60% of agencies can still access it
+2019-08-09 11:15:24 <-- den1 (den@tilde.team) has quit (quit: WeeChat 2.5)
+2019-08-09 11:15:33 TechEmporium younix: about error-prone programming languages, there isn't one that's not
+2019-08-09 11:15:47 younix Ada?
+2019-08-09 11:15:50 TechEmporium ASM can be compromised just as easily as C, Haskell or Ada
+2019-08-09 11:16:01 southerntofu and 100% of agencies and non-agencies can mitm or downgrade your transmissions if you're not using Tor
+2019-08-09 11:16:06 southerntofu so i'd say tor is better than nothing
+2019-08-09 11:16:08 TechEmporium And Ada is "not error prone" because if you make an error, you cause a nuclear meltdown
+2019-08-09 11:16:15 younix Are you talking about Spectre again?
+2019-08-09 11:16:18 TechEmporium So it's more the programmers than the language in Ada's case
+2019-08-09 11:16:30 --> petard (petard) (petard@tilde.team) has joined #meta
+2019-08-09 11:16:33 southerntofu TechEmporium: i'd say a strong typing system makes programming less error prone in general
+2019-08-09 11:16:47 TechEmporium There's much more than that
+2019-08-09 11:16:55 southerntofu sure
+2019-08-09 11:16:58 TechEmporium A strong typing system & a strong auditing policy
+2019-08-09 11:17:30 younix It's hard to argue when on a phone... My bandwidth is very limited
+2019-08-09 11:18:06 TechEmporium It's not enough that Ada has to be typed correctly because one mistake can cause a nuclear meltdown (Ada's used in North American nuclear stations). But one doesn't simply compile the code willy-nilly without a thorough inspection first, before deployment
+2019-08-09 11:18:38 TechEmporium younix: EulerOS, Android or iOS?
+2019-08-09 11:18:39 krowbar rewrite it all in PHP!
+2019-08-09 11:18:41 southerntofu also worth noting: Microsoft said 70% of their CVEs were introduced by memory safety issues that a memory-safe language would have prevented: https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-70-percent-of-all-security-bugs-are-memory-safety-issues/
+2019-08-09 11:18:42 BitBot [Title] Microsoft: 70 percent of all security bugs are memory safety issues | ZDNet - https://ttm.sh/IG
+2019-08-09 11:18:51 younix TechEmporium: Are you saying that a typed language can't protect against semantic mistakes?
+2019-08-09 11:19:29 southerntofu and that's something the Tor project got and that's why they're slowly oxydizing their codebase to Rust
+2019-08-09 11:19:54 younix EulerOS doesn't have a Wikipedia page therefore does not exist
+2019-08-09 11:20:09 krowbar haha. i like that "oxydizing their codebase"
+2019-08-09 11:20:18 TechEmporium EulerOS is Huawei's alternative to Android, based on Red Hat Linux
+2019-08-09 11:20:30 younix Yep
+2019-08-09 11:20:38 younix But doesn't actually exist yet
+2019-08-09 11:20:46 TechEmporium It's in the works, actually
+2019-08-09 11:20:59 southerntofu krowbar: yeah that's a funny word people from Mozilla/Tor/Gnome came up with when slowly replacing every individual component with Rust code :)
+2019-08-09 11:21:02 younix Not according to Wikipedia
+2019-08-09 11:21:17 TechEmporium It's also striving for POSIX compliance & customers will be part of the People's Repluc of spyware :P
+2019-08-09 11:21:19 southerntofu TechEmporium: what about PostMarketOS? :)
+2019-08-09 11:21:35 krowbar "well, we used to write code in Iron Python but... it all oxydized"
+2019-08-09 11:21:37 TechEmporium God willing the NSA hasn't contributed to PostMarketOS
+2019-08-09 11:21:41 southerntofu lol
+2019-08-09 11:21:44 younix southerntofu: did you see that new CPU design that can oxidize regular assembly and c programs?
+2019-08-09 11:21:55 younix Tagged pointers
+2019-08-09 11:21:58 southerntofu younix: err?
+2019-08-09 11:22:14 southerntofu ah well i guess any compiler can do that with the proper flags/linting :)
+2019-08-09 11:22:14 younix Cheri mips iirc
+2019-08-09 11:22:31 younix Yeah, but this does it fast
+2019-08-09 11:22:37 younix No rust needed
+2019-08-09 11:22:44 * southerntofu checks this out.
+2019-08-09 11:23:10 younix TechEmporium: If your enemy is a nation state you've already lost
+2019-08-09 11:23:11 --> Alina25 (realname) (~Alina@68.red-83-51-175.dynamicip.rima-tde.net) has joined #meta
+2019-08-09 11:24:11 southerntofu younix: not quite, but you're off on a bad start :)
+2019-08-09 11:24:24 ~ubergeek Tor was never compromised
+2019-08-09 11:24:39 ~ubergeek Exit nodes have been, but that's a well known thing, among Tor users.
+2019-08-09 11:24:45 southerntofu ubergeek: +1
+2019-08-09 11:25:15 ~ubergeek Silk road was discovered due to timing attacks, used to ID the real-world server hosting it, because it hosted other clear-net sites as well
+2019-08-09 11:25:27 ~ubergeek Users have been compromised by allowing JS to run
+2019-08-09 11:25:28 younix southerntofu: well, unless you're another nation state
+2019-08-09 11:25:48 southerntofu younix: many groups and networks in the past have defeated nation states (that's called a revolution)
+2019-08-09 11:25:57 ~ubergeek None of those are weakness in Tor, per se, but weaknesses in individual opsec
+2019-08-09 11:25:59 southerntofu i'm not saying it's easy, i'm just saying we should keep in mind it's never impossible
+2019-08-09 11:26:22 younix southerntofu: that's just the current government of the state
+2019-08-09 11:26:35 ~ubergeek replaced with another government...
+2019-08-09 11:26:46 younix Didn't replace all industry though
+2019-08-09 11:27:13 younix Lots of powerful people who aren't a political party
+2019-08-09 11:27:13 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-09 11:27:16 southerntofu ubergeek: depends, when you look at the self-administration in Chiapas or Rojava, can you call that a government?
+2019-08-09 11:27:17 younix ,hug
+2019-08-09 11:27:17 creme ,bef
+2019-08-09 11:27:17 BitBot [Ducks] younix befriended a duck in 3.87 seconds! You've befriended 9 ducks in #meta!
+2019-08-09 11:27:17 BitBot [Ducks] creme: There was no duck!
+2019-08-09 11:27:18 southerntofu ,feb
+2019-08-09 11:27:24 ~ubergeek ,boof
+2019-08-09 11:27:24 BitBot ubergeek: Unknown command. Did you mean ,book?
+2019-08-09 11:27:33 ~ubergeek No, I meant "boof" :P
+2019-08-09 11:27:33 southerntofu ,help
+2019-08-09 11:27:33 BitBot [Help] I'm https://bitbot.dev. use ',modules' to list modules, ',commands ' to list commands and ',help ' to see help text for a command
+2019-08-09 11:28:18 southerntofu younix: CHERI MIPS is interesting, but imo waitin for hardware to address issues is doomed to fail ^^
+2019-08-09 11:28:20 younix Power is a complex game... I dunno why anyone wants to play it so badly
+2019-08-09 11:28:56 younix southerntofu: securing all c software is a pretty killer hardware feature
+2019-08-09 11:29:08 southerntofu sure, can you afford it? i can't^^
+2019-08-09 11:29:15 younix Chips are cheap now
+2019-08-09 11:29:22 krowbar younix: fear? pride? ignorance?
+2019-08-09 11:29:29 younix You can fab your own if you have the design
+2019-08-09 11:29:54 younix krowbar: I guess!
+2019-08-09 11:30:04 younix krowbar: I can't grok it myself
+2019-08-09 11:30:13 southerntofu younix: you know that's not how modern CPU manufacturing works :)
+2019-08-09 11:30:15 younix I've been trying for years
+2019-08-09 11:30:20 southerntofu i can't print 5nm in a local hackerspace
+2019-08-09 11:30:25 southerntofu (not even 100nm ffs)
+2019-08-09 11:30:55 younix southerntofu: you have to have some resources, but not as many as you used to need
+2019-08-09 11:31:06 southerntofu simpler chips we can build ourselves
+2019-08-09 11:31:18 southerntofu so we can build low-tech comms networks locally for sure
+2019-08-09 11:31:19 younix The hardest thing was the chip design
+2019-08-09 11:31:28 younix Arm simplified that
+2019-08-09 11:31:43 younix Just license some ip blocks
+2019-08-09 11:32:06 krowbar younix: at a certain scale, somebody also just has to lead and that position has the opportunity to be abused
+2019-08-09 11:32:10 southerntofu i don't know, i'm just more interested in initiatives like RISCV
+2019-08-09 11:32:27 younix I'm saying that your dismissive attitude to Cheri mips would've made sense 10 years ago, but not today
+2019-08-09 11:32:52 southerntofu i'm not dismissive, it's just like with yubikeys and such, most people can't afford new, secure hardware
+2019-08-09 11:33:01 southerntofu most people can't afford new hardware at all!
+2019-08-09 11:33:14 southerntofu but i think it's really interesting initiative :)
+2019-08-09 11:33:19 younix Most people are the last to adopt anyone
+2019-08-09 11:33:23 younix *anything
+2019-08-09 11:33:29 southerntofu or anyone :)
+2019-08-09 11:33:38 younix And probably don't need the security anyhow
+2019-08-09 11:33:56 southerntofu everybody deserves security )
+2019-08-09 11:34:06 younix And they'll get it eventually
+2019-08-09 11:34:12 krowbar even "bad guys"?!
+2019-08-09 11:34:19 younix Once it's cheap enough that they want it pay for it
+2019-08-09 11:34:40 younix The door analogy is good
+2019-08-09 11:34:44 southerntofu sure krowbar, if everyone had a decent life, there would be no "bad guys" anymore :)
+2019-08-09 11:34:51 younix How good a door do you need?
+2019-08-09 11:35:25 krowbar but can't we design a self-aware crypto system with a sense of morality and ethics that just doesn't work for arbitrary "bad guys"?
+2019-08-09 11:35:38 younix Lol
+2019-08-09 11:35:40 --> adium_ [adium] (adium) (~adium@187.181.130.100) has joined #meta
+2019-08-09 11:35:43 krowbar "i can't let you encrypt that, dave"
+2019-08-09 11:35:54 younix It can only protect friendly messages
+2019-08-09 11:35:57 southerntofu yea but do we really need an all-metal door with the lock anchored within? or can we just get better locks for our existing doors? ;)
+2019-08-09 11:36:12 --> den1 (den) (den@tilde.team) has joined #meta
+2019-08-09 11:36:14 krowbar younix: it protec, it attac, but mostly it encryp
+2019-08-09 11:36:18 den1 hi meta
+2019-08-09 11:36:26 den1 you might want to view ~best now
+2019-08-09 11:36:30 younix southerntofu: the entire house needs to be considered
+2019-08-09 11:36:30 den1 website is just ready
+2019-08-09 11:36:31 southerntofu hi
+2019-08-09 11:36:37 den1 registrations soon
+2019-08-09 11:36:48 krowbar den1: nice! got an ip/url?
+2019-08-09 11:36:52 younix southerntofu: how many houses are broken into via lockpick?
+2019-08-09 11:36:54 den1 tilde.best
+2019-08-09 11:37:04 den1 will make wiki today/tomorrow
+2019-08-09 11:37:15 southerntofu younix: sure, when you're designing a house for a wealthy person who has lots of poor people to protect their property from. not when you're installing a door for common people :)
+2019-08-09 11:37:20 den1 (living on UTC+3)
+2019-08-09 11:37:31 southerntofu younix: really not many, because most people don't have the tools/skills to lockpick
+2019-08-09 11:37:58 younix southerntofu: and you can just throw a rock at a window
+2019-08-09 11:38:17 younix And steal their mid range consumer items
+2019-08-09 11:38:27 --> netscape_navigator (netscape_navigator) (~netscape_n@tilde.town) has joined #meta
+2019-08-09 11:38:28 southerntofu den1: nice tilde.best :)
+2019-08-09 11:38:32 younix Which you could afford if you really wanted one
+2019-08-09 11:38:51 southerntofu you should update to Debian 10, also why host on AWS? that's not "private" friendly :D
+2019-08-09 11:39:01 southerntofu younix: i could afford a rock indeed :)
+2019-08-09 11:39:07 <-- adium (~adium@187.181.130.100) has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds)
+2019-08-09 11:39:07 southerntofu lol
+2019-08-09 11:39:11 younix Haha
+2019-08-09 11:39:26 den1 will switch southerntofu
+2019-08-09 11:39:33 den1 just need more visitors for sponsorship
+2019-08-09 11:39:37 southerntofu also the wiki 404?
+2019-08-09 11:39:40 den1 yes
+2019-08-09 11:39:46 southerntofu den1: what do you mean sponsorship? helping iwth donations?
+2019-08-09 11:39:47 den1 as i said above
+2019-08-09 11:39:54 younix Tinfoil security vs probabilistic security
+2019-08-09 11:39:54 den1 no: hosting
+2019-08-09 11:40:11 den1 just contacted with a provider and they said they need number of unique visitors
+2019-08-09 11:40:24 den1 just need to increase visitor number with some interesting content
+2019-08-09 11:40:29 den1 thats my target for today
+2019-08-09 11:40:39 younix You need more visitors?
+2019-08-09 11:40:50 den1 yes.
+2019-08-09 11:41:03 younix Why not just pay the $5/mo?
+2019-08-09 11:41:05 den1 are you going to attack with botnet lol
+2019-08-09 11:41:10 southerntofu well that's weird lol
+2019-08-09 11:41:22 younix Heh, I don't have a botnet
+2019-08-09 11:41:31 den1 thats a nice question
+2019-08-09 11:41:43 southerntofu (den1 also your site imports a font from google, maybe you can import it locally to protect privacy of your visitors)
+2019-08-09 11:41:50 den1 yes will do it
+2019-08-09 11:41:52 den1 i think about it
+2019-08-09 11:42:11 den1 also im planning to let user choose font
+2019-08-09 11:42:14 southerntofu so can you explain to us the core concepts of your tilde.best plan? :)
+2019-08-09 11:42:17 den1 like making font font-family: serif;
+2019-08-09 11:42:27 den1 privacy, security, anonymity, and community
+2019-08-09 11:42:36 southerntofu like https://tilde.black somehow?
+2019-08-09 11:42:37 BitBot [Title] Tilde Black - https://ttm.sh/I3
+2019-08-09 11:42:49 den1 yes
+2019-08-09 11:43:13 krowbar is there a way to look at the pricing options for digitalocean before giving them a credit card?
+2019-08-09 11:43:38 --> ctl1 (ctl) (~ctl@tilde.institute) has joined #meta
+2019-08-09 11:43:38 southerntofu i'm also very intersted in these issues den1 if you have a more precise plan i would love to hear it :)
+2019-08-09 11:44:22 den1 maybe you can be a part of ~best southerntofu
+2019-08-09 11:44:58 krowbar ah, i found it. they sure make it hard to find
+2019-08-09 11:44:58 den1 i will make a client-side app which lets users to write code or some stuff in their machine and upload to the ~best after encrypting
+2019-08-09 11:45:10 den1 but of course, i can't help people to abuse it
+2019-08-09 11:45:33 southerntofu to be honest i'm already a member of thunix and i don't want to have so many accounts everywhere, but thanks for the invitation
+2019-08-09 11:45:35 den1 but it is just new and there can be some issues
+2019-08-09 11:45:42 den1 ok no prob
+2019-08-09 11:45:51 southerntofu i would love to discuss how to federate with ~best from the server where i am currently :)
+2019-08-09 11:46:02 den1 ok, i want to listen your recommendations
+2019-08-09 11:46:05 den1 and we can discuss
+2019-08-09 11:46:15 southerntofu so you mean obfuscating the scripts automatically?
+2019-08-09 11:46:34 den1 no, if client wants to use
+2019-08-09 11:46:35 younix krowbar: I'm sure that hidden pricing page was a/b tested into that hidden spot
+2019-08-09 11:46:51 den1 for now im planning to write a python script
+2019-08-09 11:46:56 <-- netscape_navigator (~netscape_n@tilde.town) has quit (quit: WeeChat 2.4)
+2019-08-09 11:47:32 den1 i need to make unique visitors over 100 to let be sponsored i guess
+2019-08-09 11:47:39 southerntofu ok, but what about tilde.best? do you have onion services? do you want to provide mail over onion/i2p? or something else exciting? or isit just a privacy-friendly tilde where you can run some scripts?
+2019-08-09 11:47:53 den1 will have all these
+2019-08-09 11:47:55 * southerntofu changes Tor circuit to tilde.best
+2019-08-09 11:48:00 den1 implementing onion is just easy
+2019-08-09 11:48:13 southerntofu yes, but what do you plan to do for sysadmin?
+2019-08-09 11:48:18 krowbar mmhymmm, i like onions. i grilled some yesterday for a pizza
+2019-08-09 11:48:22 den1 and hosting service im planning to use allows tor relays
+2019-08-09 11:48:25 den1 and hidden services
+2019-08-09 11:48:31 southerntofu do you write your own scripts? are they free-software hosted on a forge somewhere?
+2019-08-09 11:48:31 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-09 11:48:33 den1 ,bef
+2019-08-09 11:48:33 BitBot [Ducks] den1 befriended a duck in 2.33 seconds! You've befriended 4 ducks in #meta!
+2019-08-09 11:48:34 krowbar ,bef
+2019-08-09 11:48:34 BitBot [Ducks] krowbar: There was no duck!
+2019-08-09 11:48:41 southerntofu do you use declarative config like ansible/nix/guix?
+2019-08-09 11:48:44 den1 i will write my own and make it open-source of course
+2019-08-09 11:48:45 southerntofu (or do you want to?)
+2019-08-09 11:48:57 den1 want to and will do
+2019-08-09 11:49:07 southerntofu you mean for declarative config?
+2019-08-09 11:49:34 krowbar !xkcd standards
+2019-08-09 11:49:35 banterbot xkcd: Standards - https://m.xkcd.com/927/
+2019-08-09 11:49:37 den1 didnt get it but like guix
+2019-08-09 11:50:01 southerntofu so you would want to make a guix-based tilde?
+2019-08-09 11:50:04 den1 krowbar: yes
+2019-08-09 11:50:09 den1 no but something like that
+2019-08-09 11:50:44 den1 people will make a best-based one
+2019-08-09 11:50:57 krowbar how about XML?!
+2019-08-09 11:51:01 den1 because i believe in security through transparency
+2019-08-09 11:51:25 southerntofu so you want to write friendly scripts for other people to reuse/reimplement?
+2019-08-09 11:51:31 den1 yep
+2019-08-09 11:51:48 * southerntofu throws onions at krowbar
+2019-08-09 11:51:52 den1 and want ~best community to do same thing
+2019-08-09 11:52:16 den1 a community of people who write code and help each other, a place to learn
+2019-08-09 11:52:22 * krowbar chomps the onions
+2019-08-09 11:52:39 * den1 founds the onion routing
+2019-08-09 11:53:02 southerntofu den1: that sounds like a nice plan!
+2019-08-09 11:53:17 den1 also if you have recommendations for website
+2019-08-09 11:53:19 southerntofu you know thunix.net uses ansible declarative config for sysadmin, so a while ago i started a PR to introduce onions
+2019-08-09 11:53:24 den1 pls let me know
+2019-08-09 11:53:28 southerntofu you should really take a look i think: https://tildegit.org/southerntofu/ansible/src/branch/onion-recipe/roles/webserver
+2019-08-09 11:53:29 BitBot [Title] southerntofu/ansible: Playbook for thunix - ansible - tildegit - https://ttm.sh/IY
+2019-08-09 11:54:03 den1 btw we got 19 unique visitors
+2019-08-09 11:54:09 clarjon1 haldo
+2019-08-09 11:54:10 den1 since said
+2019-08-09 11:54:33 den1 now 23
+2019-08-09 11:54:35 den1 lol
+2019-08-09 11:54:39 den1 thx guys!
+2019-08-09 11:54:41 den1 thx a lot
+2019-08-09 11:54:44 * southerntofu changing circuits.. <3
+2019-08-09 11:55:26 southerntofu but if they group hosts by known tor exit nodes they'll realize it's all from tor
+2019-08-09 11:55:48 den1 i will make a new website
+2019-08-09 11:56:03 southerntofu den1: you should use a static site generator to make your life easier
+2019-08-09 11:56:04 den1 and tell it to my hosting provider to ready to be sponsored
+2019-08-09 11:56:19 den1 southerntofu: which one
+2019-08-09 11:56:21 den1 hugo?
+2019-08-09 11:56:22 southerntofu i really like https://getzola.org (rust) but there's also https://gohugo.io (go) that's really good
+2019-08-09 11:56:23 BitBot [Title] Zola - https://ttm.sh/IC
+2019-08-09 11:56:37 den1 i like jekyll too
+2019-08-09 11:56:44 den1 but actually i want to make it myself
+2019-08-09 11:56:51 den1 with my amazing .vimrc
+2019-08-09 11:56:53 southerntofu jekyll is way too slow :-/
+2019-08-09 11:57:12 den1 also you can use vim when creating a website with static website generator but
+2019-08-09 11:57:14 southerntofu den1: making a SSG is really easy, many people do it with makefiles even or simple scripts
+2019-08-09 11:57:29 den1 !acronym SSG
+2019-08-09 11:57:29 banterbot SSG: "Special Services Group (Pakistan)", "Special Services Group (SSG)", "Strategic Studies Group", "Staff Sergeant", "Strategic Sciences Group", "Seraphic Speedboats Giggler"
+2019-08-09 11:57:30 southerntofu but you keep on reinventing the wheel forever :)
+2019-08-09 11:57:37 southerntofu static site generator
+2019-08-09 11:57:41 den1 lol
+2019-08-09 11:57:55 den1 SWG
+2019-08-09 11:57:56 southerntofu because there's literally hundreds (if not thousands) of SSGs around
+2019-08-09 11:58:11 krowbar lunch time ya!
+2019-08-09 11:58:22 den1 ,w krowbar
+2019-08-09 11:58:22 BitBot [Weather|krowbar] (Pinckney, US) 23C/74F | Broken Clouds | Humidity: 44% | Wind: 13.0KMh/8.1MPh
+2019-08-09 11:58:25 southerntofu there's proably one that suits your needs so you can take your energy and focus to other problems where you can actually innovate something :)
+2019-08-09 11:58:32 southerntofu i don't know, that's the way i see it anyway :D
+2019-08-09 11:58:52 den1 we have 24 unique one
+2019-08-09 11:59:21 southerntofu but you need a registrations page, more information about the project for ~best
+2019-08-09 11:59:21 den1 guys, if you didnt checked yet: https://tilde.best will be opened for registrations soon for now, you can see homepage
+2019-08-09 11:59:23 BitBot [Title] ~site - https://ttm.sh/IR
+2019-08-09 11:59:27 den1 will do it
+2019-08-09 11:59:31 den1 forgot to change title lol
+2019-08-09 11:59:35 den1 will do it now
+2019-08-09 11:59:55 den1 ben
+2019-08-09 12:00:08 den1 also can we make it ~best part of a ~chat
+2019-08-09 12:00:12 den1 ?
+2019-08-09 12:01:04 southerntofu maybe first open registrations, make the new website, write documentation and cnofigure onions? :)
+2019-08-09 12:01:58 den1 its not a good idea to open registrations because user data will be deleted because of migration to another provider
+2019-08-09 12:02:13 den1 but maybe i can make a database
+2019-08-09 12:02:18 southerntofu can't you do backup/migration?
+2019-08-09 12:02:27 den1 i can
+2019-08-09 12:02:32 southerntofu or yes like already store ssh keys and you just install them on the new server
+2019-08-09 12:02:42 den1 but it will be unnnecessary as long as it is not really ready
+2019-08-09 12:02:47 den1 new start will be good
+2019-08-09 12:03:20 den1 i dont really want to use aws ec2
+2019-08-09 12:03:36 southerntofu sure, good idea
+2019-08-09 12:06:48 younix southerntofu: Jekyll is too slow?? Can't it run as a server and show your changes when you reload the page?
+2019-08-09 12:07:51 <-- TechEmporium (~TechEmpori@147-194-15-196.dsl.comwave.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds)
+2019-08-09 12:09:25 den1 made some edits on website
+2019-08-09 12:09:34 den1 still open to recommendations
+2019-08-09 12:09:52 southerntofu yay, no google :)
+2019-08-09 12:09:55 den1 yep
+2019-08-09 12:09:59 den1 sans-serif;
+2019-08-09 12:10:04 den1 you can choose font yourself
+2019-08-09 12:10:16 den1 within your browser settings in most browsers i guess
+2019-08-09 12:10:28 southerntofu very anti-authoritarian approach, i like that :)
+2019-08-09 12:10:48 den1 decentralization
+2019-08-09 12:10:51 den1 !
+2019-08-09 12:11:14 den1 not sure if ben is active but need ben's help
+2019-08-09 12:11:18 den1 for ~chat stuff
+2019-08-09 12:11:31 younix Fascist fonts
+2019-08-09 12:11:51 southerntofu he'll reply when he's around
+2019-08-09 12:11:59 southerntofu younix: don't laugh, fonts are called "police" in french
+2019-08-09 12:12:13 den1 now?
+2019-08-09 12:12:32 younix Whaaaa? :)
+2019-08-09 12:12:40 den1 did you mention it xd
+2019-08-09 12:12:54 southerntofu https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_d%27%C3%A9criture
+2019-08-09 12:12:55 BitBot [Title] Police d'écriture — Wikipédia - https://ttm.sh/I1
+2019-08-09 12:12:57 den1 not eye friendly with that background i think, what do you think?
+2019-08-09 12:13:14 southerntofu den1: contrast is ok for me :)
+2019-08-09 12:13:31 den1 ok i can change it if i get a lot of feedbacks about it
+2019-08-09 12:13:48 den1 btw we have 28 unique visitors now
+2019-08-09 12:13:50 younix I guess English is weird too: File "", line 638, in _load_backward_compatible
+2019-08-09 12:13:51 den1 thats just great
+2019-08-09 12:13:52 younix File "", line 1459, in _fix_up_module
+2019-08-09 12:13:54 younix KeyboardInterrupt ^C
+2019-08-09 12:13:56 younix ~/misc/mixes $ wict font font
+2019-08-09 12:13:58 younix * A receptacle in a church for holy water - especially one used in baptism
+2019-08-09 12:14:00 younix Lol wtf
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+2019-08-09 12:14:18 younix Termux copy/paste is the worst
+2019-08-09 12:14:34 den1 yes it seems like
+2019-08-09 12:14:34 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-09 12:14:35 southerntofu lol
+2019-08-09 12:14:37 southerntofu ,bef
+2019-08-09 12:14:37 den1 ,bef
+2019-08-09 12:14:37 BitBot [Ducks] southerntofu befriended a duck in 3.43 seconds! You've befriended 1 duck in #meta!
+2019-08-09 12:14:38 BitBot [Ducks] den1: There was no duck!
+2019-08-09 12:14:40 den1 lol
+2019-08-09 12:14:47 den1 i just changed into another term and came back
+2019-08-09 12:15:03 younix So a font is either writing police, or the source of life
+2019-08-09 12:15:22 younix Writing salvation
+2019-08-09 12:15:22 * southerntofu is thinking about writing a generic Rust library for loading frontmatter from toml/yaml/json..
+2019-08-09 12:15:35 southerntofu and in french police is either a font or the source of problems
+2019-08-09 12:16:45 younix A fountain of problems?
+2019-08-09 12:16:47 den1 no e-mails yet
+2019-08-09 12:16:49 den1 xd
+2019-08-09 12:17:30 southerntofu a holy fountain of problems indeed lol
+2019-08-09 12:19:03 southerntofu an endless pit of suffering and injustice
+2019-08-09 12:21:16 den1 if you want to register to ~best just send a e-mail at aliqui at protonmail dot com and will add u as user when it is ready
+2019-08-09 12:27:25 younix What domain registrar do you tilders like to use?
+2019-08-09 12:27:40 den1 namecheap
+2019-08-09 12:27:42 den1 and njalla
+2019-08-09 12:27:51 den1 https://namecheap.com and https://njal.la
+2019-08-09 12:27:54 BitBot [Title] Buy domain name - Cheap domain names from $1.37 - Namecheap - https://ttm.sh/I4
+2019-08-09 12:28:13 den1 njalla for better privacy
+2019-08-09 12:28:31 den1 also i use gandi
+2019-08-09 12:28:56 southerntofu gandi was just bought by a multinational they're not an independant small company anymore
+2019-08-09 12:29:13 southerntofu there's also ititch.com like njalla accepts bitcoin
+2019-08-09 12:29:15 den1 they allow crypto and they are also cheap
+2019-08-09 12:29:17 den1 yes
+2019-08-09 12:29:20 den1 also they provide vps
+2019-08-09 12:29:29 den1 or was providing wps
+2019-08-09 12:29:43 southerntofu den1: gandi is very expensive compared to other french providers like 1&1 or ovh (kimsufi, soyoustart, dedibox..)
+2019-08-09 12:30:22 younix butt.social $24.99
+2019-08-09 12:30:27 younix That seems pricey
+2019-08-09 12:30:33 southerntofu there's also ouvaton.coop it's a self-organized hosting coop and are very cheap and good
+2019-08-09 12:30:36 den1 on some domains then
+2019-08-09 12:30:38 den1 sorry
+2019-08-09 12:30:42 den1 coops are cool
+2019-08-09 12:31:01 den1 Service Unavailable
+2019-08-09 12:31:14 den1 https://ouvaton.coop
+2019-08-09 12:31:20 BitBot [Title] Ouvaton.coop – La Coopérative d'hébergement numérique - https://ttm.sh/IU
+2019-08-09 12:31:37 younix Bitbot disagrees
+2019-08-09 12:32:10 den1 yep
+2019-08-09 12:32:14 den1 dont know why
+2019-08-09 12:32:37 den1 its actually working now
+2019-08-09 12:33:04 den1 ouvaton works with gandi right?
+2019-08-09 12:33:27 southerntofu no they got their own AS
+2019-08-09 12:33:43 den1 it says something like at bottom
+2019-08-09 12:33:46 den1 can you check that
+2019-08-09 12:34:22 southerntofu well maybe some services are provided by gandi? or maybe there's hosted in gandi rackspace with their own AS?
+2019-08-09 12:34:33 younix https://ouvaton.coop/hebergement/paiements/
+2019-08-09 12:34:35 BitBot [Title] Paiements – Ouvaton.coop - https://ttm.sh/Il
+2019-08-09 12:34:38 younix Now that's broken
+2019-08-09 12:34:42 den1 lol
+2019-08-09 12:34:52 den1 same thing happened
+2019-08-09 12:34:54 southerntofu bitbot disagrees, but maybe there's problems on their platform?
+2019-08-09 12:35:13 younix Yep
+2019-08-09 12:35:17 southerntofu den1: gandi is indeed the registrar for ouvaton
+2019-08-09 12:35:31 --> webchatter (webchat user) (lounge-user@62.140.137.77) has joined #meta
+2019-08-09 12:35:37 southerntofu maybe?
+2019-08-09 12:35:40 southerntofu (lemme check)
+2019-08-09 12:36:07 southerntofu yes they are a gandi.Net reseller for DNS so that's why they provide almost half prices compared to gandi
+2019-08-09 12:36:32 southerntofu (1 year .com gandi is like 15-20€ with the taxes)
+2019-08-09 12:41:08 younix There should be an http request header that tells the server that you accept that every site in the universe uses cookies and that you don't want to have to click a stupid Javascript overlay on every site in the universe
+2019-08-09 12:41:45 younix You have successfully protected everybody's privacy, EU
+2019-08-09 12:42:16 younix Now let us the to entire page
+2019-08-09 12:42:22 southerntofu yeah that's bullshit
+2019-08-09 12:42:31 younix *see the entire
+2019-08-09 12:42:53 southerntofu afaik firefox is working on hiding popovers like that automatically
+2019-08-09 12:43:08 southerntofu there was an experiment blogpost on hacks.mozilla.org last year i think
+2019-08-09 12:43:19 younix Yeah, probably easier that way
+2019-08-09 12:43:52 younix Hoping every web developer in the universe knows that request headers are is not a great strategy
+2019-08-09 12:44:12 younix *knows what request headers are
+2019-08-09 12:44:39 younix Hoping that the Android keyboard knows what words mean is also not a great strategy
+2019-08-09 12:45:08 southerntofu android autocorrect is the worst :)
+2019-08-09 12:45:57 younix I'm struggling with gestures
+2019-08-09 12:46:31 younix Despite using a word 10 times in the last 5 minutes, it still doesn't recognize it
+2019-08-09 12:47:21 younix I wonder if Android developers have special dictionaries full of technical jargon
+2019-08-09 12:47:54 southerntofu i wonder if android devs actually use android on real low-end hardware ^^
+2019-08-09 12:47:58 younix Or maybe they just leave their work at work, and only talk about fun stuff on their phones
+2019-08-09 12:48:23 den1 ,bef
+2019-08-09 12:48:28 southerntofu ,bef
+2019-08-09 12:48:29 BitBot [Ducks] southerntofu: There was no duck!
+2019-08-09 12:48:35 den1 ,bef
+2019-08-09 12:48:40 den1 cool trick xd
+2019-08-09 12:48:41 southerntofu i still don't fully understand this
+2019-08-09 12:48:44 younix Yeah, I guess my hardware is pretty low-end now
+2019-08-09 12:49:07 younix ,bff
+2019-08-09 12:49:08 den1 younix: android machine learning...
+2019-08-09 12:49:17 younix Hah
+2019-08-09 12:49:19 southerntofu is it like a bitbot game where they announce a duck and you must react the quickest? (that's the conclusion i'm reaching somehow)
+2019-08-09 12:49:29 den1 yes
+2019-08-09 12:49:47 den1 also there is some other actions except ,bef
+2019-08-09 12:50:05 den1 dont know them thats why i use ,bef xd
+2019-08-09 12:50:11 younix I only know trap and hug (aka bef)
+2019-08-09 12:50:19 den1 ,trap
+2019-08-09 12:50:19 BitBot [Ducks] den1: There was no duck!
+2019-08-09 12:50:22 den1 ,hug
+2019-08-09 12:50:22 BitBot [Ducks] den1: There was no duck!
+2019-08-09 12:50:26 den1 ,bye
+2019-08-09 12:50:28 den1 ,die
+2019-08-09 12:50:33 den1 ,doanythinguwant
+2019-08-09 12:50:37 younix ,shoot
+2019-08-09 12:50:39 den1 ,getrootaccess
+2019-08-09 12:50:43 den1 ,root
+2019-08-09 12:50:48 den1 ,gimmeroot
+2019-08-09 12:50:49 younix ,fire
+2019-08-09 12:50:52 -- den1 is now known as root
+2019-08-09 12:50:54 root wow
+2019-08-09 12:50:56 younix ,blast
+2019-08-09 12:50:59 root thats cool
+2019-08-09 12:51:02 root xdxd
+2019-08-09 12:51:12 root ,exitroot
+2019-08-09 12:51:14 -- root is now known as den1
+2019-08-09 12:51:21 southerntofu lol
+2019-08-09 12:51:24 younix Come back here, varmint
+2019-08-09 12:51:53 den1 thats so weird
+2019-08-09 12:52:02 den1 why it allows to send messages
+2019-08-09 12:52:06 den1 which is *blan*
+2019-08-09 12:52:09 den1 blank**
+2019-08-09 12:52:25 younix Because vague protocol specifications
+2019-08-09 12:52:51 younix Be strict with output and tolerant with input
+2019-08-09 13:02:30 den1 hey as you know, tilde's are free
+2019-08-09 13:02:40 den1 but does ads are huge problem from tildes?
+2019-08-09 13:02:58 den1 ads that not involves javascript.
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+2019-08-09 13:04:35 southerntofu wtf? why would you sell your users' attention span?
+2019-08-09 13:07:05 den1 yes you are right
+2019-08-09 13:07:17 den1 my sponsorship request doesnt allowed at the moment
+2019-08-09 13:07:36 den1 and i believe it is not really good idea to go with aws
+2019-08-09 13:07:44 den1 do you know any vps provider which can sponsor?
+2019-08-09 13:08:10 den1 and no, i don't want to go with 5$ packages as long as i can't guarentee i can pay 5$ every moth.
+2019-08-09 13:08:17 southerntofu because you have no money or because you want to stay pseudonymous?
+2019-08-09 13:08:21 southerntofu k
+2019-08-09 13:08:28 den1 maybe both
+2019-08-09 13:08:52 den1 but not a huge problem
+2019-08-09 13:09:45 younix How about using one of the other existing tildes? :D
+2019-08-09 13:10:07 den1 as a hosting?
+2019-08-09 13:10:17 den1 or just using xd
+2019-08-09 13:10:21 den1 if just using nope
+2019-08-09 13:10:38 den1 i just want to own one
+2019-08-09 13:10:43 den1 because i have lots of freetime
+2019-08-09 13:10:51 den1 and will improve my skills
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+2019-08-09 13:11:27 southerntofu well if it's just for learning why don't you host it on an old laptop or some other hardware you can selfhost
+2019-08-09 13:11:36 southerntofu it doesn't have to be fast to be useful :)
+2019-08-09 13:11:40 den1 yes i have some other hardware
+2019-08-09 13:11:41 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-09 13:11:43 den1 ,bef
+2019-08-09 13:11:43 BitBot [Ducks] den1 befriended a duck in 2.37 seconds! You've befriended 5 ducks in #meta!
+2019-08-09 13:11:47 den1 but
+2019-08-09 13:11:53 den1 i dont have a great network speed or bandwith
+2019-08-09 13:12:17 southerntofu sure but if you don't have many users yet and want to learn it's the best way to learn for free
+2019-08-09 13:12:34 southerntofu that's how many of us started hosting things :)
+2019-08-09 13:12:40 den1 southerntofu: what about going with aws for now?
+2019-08-09 13:12:50 southerntofu den1: that's bullshit
+2019-08-09 13:12:59 southerntofu don't talk to me about privacy and onions if you're hosted y aws lol
+2019-08-09 13:13:15 den1 and security...
+2019-08-09 13:13:23 den1 only think that i talk about is anonymity
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+2019-08-09 13:13:36 den1 and security *if i made a client side app that i told you about*
+2019-08-09 13:14:00 den1 then also there is privacy
+2019-08-09 13:14:12 den1 but still, dont know
+2019-08-09 13:14:17 den1 what do you think
+2019-08-09 13:14:44 den1 if you want we can discuss it at #best
+2019-08-09 13:15:04 southerntofu yes better than spamming here :)
+2019-08-09 13:18:10 krowbar tasty spam
+2019-08-09 13:19:03 * southerntofu throws more onions at krowbar
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+2019-08-09 13:20:48 krowbar if you've not read/heard it before, i recomend the really cool episode https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2015/10/14/448718171/episode-657-the-tale-of-the-onion-king
+2019-08-09 13:20:50 BitBot [Title] NPR Choice page - https://ttm.sh/Ik
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+2019-08-09 13:21:54 southerntofu will do
+2019-08-09 13:21:57 --> frigginglorious [frigginglorious] (frigginglorious) (~Thunderbir@47.41.170.217) has joined #meta
+2019-08-09 13:23:09 ~ubergeek den1: About becoming a node on tilde.chat... A couple of things
+2019-08-09 13:23:45 ~ubergeek We have a ton of servers already, so the need for an additional one is pretty minimal right now. Secondly, we'd prefer to see a bit of stability prior to adding it to the network, first.
+2019-08-09 13:23:54 ~ubergeek Many tildes are short-lived experiments.
+2019-08-09 13:24:24 * southerntofu listens to the wise sysadmin.
+2019-08-09 13:24:28 ~ubergeek It also helps to be an active member of the tildeverse for a while, too :)
+2019-08-09 13:25:19 ~ubergeek But, it is cool you're doing encrypted home dirs. automount encryptfs, I take it?
+2019-08-09 13:25:51 den1 planned way is with ecryptfs
+2019-08-09 13:25:53 den1 yes
+2019-08-09 13:26:26 ~ubergeek cool :)
+2019-08-09 13:26:29 den1 i recommend you to join #best
+2019-08-09 13:26:39 den1 we are discussing about some stuff
+2019-08-09 13:27:19 krowbar or you can join #wurst
+2019-08-09 13:27:25 krowbar and we can talk about german sausages
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+2019-08-09 13:36:51 * ubergeek joins both now...
+2019-08-09 13:37:00 * ubergeek loves wursts of all variety
+2019-08-09 13:41:45 krowbar lies! i don't see you there!
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+2019-08-09 13:50:02 younix den1: how about a virtual machine running on a potato
+2019-08-09 13:50:32 younix here's a good one: https://libre.computer/products/boards/aml-s905x-cc/
+2019-08-09 13:50:33 BitBot [Title] AML-S905X-CC (Le Potato) – Libre Computer - https://ttm.sh/I8
+2019-08-09 13:52:18 younix so, vim-style browsers have this great feature where you press a hotkey and all the clickable elements on the page get letters beside them which you can press to follow them...
+2019-08-09 13:52:26 younix let's call it "hit-a-hint"
+2019-08-09 13:52:46 younix (or HaH for short)
+2019-08-09 13:52:57 younix why isn't that built into ui toolkits like gtk/qt?
+2019-08-09 13:53:19 younix with a single hotkey you could basically make the mouse unnecessary
+2019-08-09 13:53:34 younix even the window resize handles could have hints on them
+2019-08-09 13:53:36 echelon ,np echelonstudios
+2019-08-09 13:53:39 BitBot [last.fm] echelonstudios is listening to: Manchester Orchestra - I've Got Friends (6 plays) (indie, alternative, rock, indie rock, Manchester Orchestra) - https://youtu.be/dogt89N3CgA
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+2019-08-09 14:32:20 younix lol
+2019-08-09 14:32:31 younix microsoft owns a "design patent" on rectangles: https://patents.google.com/patent/USD550237S1/
+2019-08-09 14:33:18 younix oh sorry, a rectangle with an icon in the bottom right corner
+2019-08-09 14:33:39 younix microsoft put millions of dollars into that idea, so the government will protect it for them
+2019-08-09 14:36:05 younix they also own sliders, which were invented by them in 2006: https://patents.google.com/patent/USD554140S1/
+2019-08-09 14:36:07 BitBot [Title] USD554140S1 - User interface for a portion of a display screen - Google Patents - https://ttm.sh/IJ
+2019-08-09 14:36:52 younix and tabs, which were also invented by them in 2006: https://patents.google.com/patent/USD564532S1/
+2019-08-09 14:36:54 BitBot [Title] USD564532S1 - User interface for a portion of a display screen - Google Patents - https://ttm.sh/Io
+2019-08-09 14:41:55 ~ubergeek I should patent all circles, that are slightly squished...
+2019-08-09 14:47:28 ~ahriman i can't wait until someone patents written language. "a system of shapes and marks to convey agreed meaning between multiple parties"
+2019-08-09 14:47:48 --> rdh [rdh] (rdh) (~rdh@tilde.institute) has joined #meta
+2019-08-09 14:48:13 rdh Hi everyone
+2019-08-09 14:48:56 rdh TFSMIF, amirite?
+2019-08-09 14:49:28 --> TechEmporium_ (realname) (~TechEmpori@147-194-15-196.dsl.comwave.net) has joined #meta
+2019-08-09 14:49:51 younix Tooth Fairy Shoved Money In Face?
+2019-08-09 14:49:55 ~ahriman That Face Says Mf I'm Fine?
+2019-08-09 14:50:44 younix Termites Find Soft Mahogany Irresistably Fresh
+2019-08-09 14:50:55 ~ahriman oh that's a good one
+2019-08-09 14:51:15 rdh Yeah those are all good
+2019-08-09 14:51:22 rdh but i meant
+2019-08-09 14:51:32 rdh thank flying spaghetti monster it's friday
+2019-08-09 14:51:41 ~ahriman lol
+2019-08-09 14:51:42 younix \o/
+2019-08-09 14:52:16 ~ahriman \o\ heyyyy /o/ hoooo
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+2019-08-09 14:52:54 younix _o/ \o\ \o/ \o_
+2019-08-09 14:53:06 younix _o_ <- me
+2019-08-09 14:53:35 younix \|/ <- potted plant
+2019-08-09 14:53:54 younix _\|/_
+2019-08-09 14:54:14 ~ahriman ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-09 14:54:35 ~ubergeek ,bof
+2019-08-09 14:57:55 younix ,hug
+2019-08-09 14:57:56 BitBot [Ducks] younix: There was no duck!
+2019-08-09 14:58:00 younix lol
+2019-08-09 14:58:14 younix arhiman you are incorrigable
+2019-08-09 14:58:20 ~ahriman i try
+2019-08-09 14:58:28 younix *incorrigible
+2019-08-09 14:58:50 ~ubergeek ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\-*/ QUARK!
+2019-08-09 14:59:04 rdh ,rootbeer
+2019-08-09 14:59:10 ~ubergeek ,creamsoda
+2019-08-09 14:59:29 ~ahriman ,icedtea
+2019-08-09 15:01:08 younix does someone here own https://tilde.academy/ ? or is that a squatter?
+2019-08-09 15:01:58 rdh Purchased through namecheap, so probably not a squatter
+2019-08-09 15:02:13 rdh Or at least, not *that* kind of squatter
+2019-08-09 15:02:39 southerntofu yeah, squatting's fine, impersonating's another thing
+2019-08-09 15:02:41 ~ahriman it's an unrelated site it looks like
+2019-08-09 15:02:52 younix anyone who's not part of the tilde community is a squatter, in my books
+2019-08-09 15:02:55 ~ahriman easily learn spanish
+2019-08-09 15:03:02 ~ahriman i think
+2019-08-09 15:03:17 ~ahriman idk my spanish sucks and i don't feel like using g00g-translate
+2019-08-09 15:04:05 ~ahriman "tilde is your spanish school"
+2019-08-09 15:06:10 ~ahriman younix: i think the only person who has a shitload of domains related to tildes is ben, so unless it's on his list-o-domains or otherwise known it's either going to be unrelated or a squatter. see: https://tilde.team/wiki/domains
+2019-08-09 15:06:13 BitBot [Title] domains | tilde.team~wiki - https://ttm.sh/FY
+2019-08-09 15:06:57 younix tilde.world is available! :o
+2019-08-09 15:07:36 younix shouldn't that be on tilde.wiki?
+2019-08-09 15:07:59 younix oic, it's the same site: https://tilde.wiki/domains
+2019-08-09 15:08:03 BitBot [Title] domains | tilde.team~wiki - https://ttm.sh/ib
+2019-08-09 15:08:39 younix ben has great web designs
+2019-08-09 15:08:48 ~ahriman ya they're p good
+2019-08-09 15:08:49 younix gigantic anchor links ftw
+2019-08-09 15:09:51 younix actually, the bar at the top is irritating
+2019-08-09 15:10:17 younix elements that permanently obscure parts of the screen are unnecessary, imo
+2019-08-09 15:10:45 ~ahriman ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
+2019-08-09 15:11:00 rdh Better to always be there, than to disappear on scroll down and reappear on scroll up
+2019-08-09 15:11:12 ~ahriman ^^^^^^ that pisses me off, the disappearing act
+2019-08-09 15:11:16 younix yeah
+2019-08-09 15:11:18 krowbar yeah
+2019-08-09 15:11:19 southerntofu agreed
+2019-08-09 15:11:33 younix but best is: just put it at the top, and if i wanna see it, i scroll to the top
+2019-08-09 15:11:35 southerntofu but even better is top of the page naviation :)
+2019-08-09 15:11:41 younix no hover
+2019-08-09 15:12:26 younix heh, i like how some sites will compromise by having a hovering button in the bottom right corner that jumps back to the top of the page
+2019-08-09 15:12:56 younix "my poor fingers i can't scroll that much i need a butttonnnnn :~("
+2019-08-09 15:13:13 southerntofu yeah some people have a hard time scrolling
+2019-08-09 15:13:20 southerntofu not kidding, serious disability stuff
+2019-08-09 15:13:35 younix wouldn't they have accessibility features as extensions to their browser?
+2019-08-09 15:13:36 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-09 15:13:39 younix ,hug
+2019-08-09 15:13:39 BitBot [Ducks] younix befriended a duck in 2.85 seconds! You've befriended 10 ducks in #meta!
+2019-08-09 15:13:39 krowbar ,bag
+2019-08-09 15:13:40 BitBot krowbar: Unknown command. Did you mean ,badge?
+2019-08-09 15:13:43 krowbar aw
+2019-08-09 15:13:43 younix lol
+2019-08-09 15:13:56 younix almost bagged 'em
+2019-08-09 15:14:15 ~ahriman bag em and tag em randy
+2019-08-09 15:14:33 ~ahriman we're onto these shitbirds like a shitfan in the shitwind
+2019-08-09 15:15:36 krowbar southerntofu: yeah, i have a friend with severe disability and i find it ... interesting? and educational to hear about her experiences and limitations with technology
+2019-08-09 15:15:59 southerntofu yes, especially in regards to how we as devs/sysadmins could make their lives so much easier if we just care a little
+2019-08-09 15:19:37 ~ahriman wtf. there's a commercial for "mylife.com" that claims to offer a "reputation" on anyone you search for whether they're trustworthy
+2019-08-09 15:20:21 krowbar "it's mylife and i want it now!"
+2019-08-09 15:21:02 ~ahriman call 1-877-cash-now! *sings* J.G. Wentworth, 877CASHNOW!
+2019-08-09 15:21:09 ~ahriman fml
+2019-08-09 15:21:20 ~ahriman that's been stuck in my head for ten years
+2019-08-09 15:21:29 krowbar sounds like there could be a JonTron on that
+2019-08-09 15:21:45 ~ahriman whats a jontron
+2019-08-09 15:22:05 krowbar https://www.youtube.com/user/JonTronShow
+2019-08-09 15:22:08 BitBot [Title] JonTronShow - YouTube - https://ttm.sh/Ir
+2019-08-09 15:22:17 Fessus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSrLG1zPr2g
+2019-08-09 15:22:19 BitBot [Youtube] Dan Aykroyd's Crystal Skull Vodka - JonTron (21:59) uploaded by JonTronShow, 8,384,362 views (392360↑↓4995) https://youtu.be/VSrLG1zPr2g
+2019-08-09 15:22:36 krowbar yeah, that's a good one
+2019-08-09 15:23:02 krowbar or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ci2hj7CSHI
+2019-08-09 15:23:03 BitBot [Youtube] Waterproofing My Life With FLEX TAPE - JonTron (10:30) uploaded by JonTronShow, 43,667,073 views (1102670↑↓25910) https://youtu.be/8ci2hj7CSHI
+2019-08-09 15:24:51 younix ~.~.
+2019-08-09 15:24:59 southerntofu Today in "hugo reinventing the wheel", i present to you "hugo reinvents the return keyword" https://gohugo.io/news/0.55.0-relnotes/#new-return-keyword-for-partials
+2019-08-09 15:25:01 BitBot [Title] Hugo 0.55.0: The early Easter Egg Edition! | Hugo - https://ttm.sh/Is
+2019-08-09 15:25:30 <-- hijackeel (~weechat@184-23-190-130.vpn.dynamic.sonic.net) has quit (Client exited)
+2019-08-09 15:25:31 younix ahriman: a shitbird doesn't change its stripes
+2019-08-09 15:27:02 ~ahriman we gotta descend from the skies, younix.
+2019-08-09 15:27:05 ~ahriman like a shithawk
+2019-08-09 15:27:11 ~ahriman *whispers* like a shithawk
+2019-08-09 15:27:53 younix you with me bobands
+2019-08-09 15:27:58 den1 hey
+2019-08-09 15:28:02 den1 new website of ~best
+2019-08-09 15:28:13 younix "mr leahey, you're pissing yourself again"
+2019-08-09 15:28:22 den1 waiting for recommendations about design or other stufff
+2019-08-09 15:28:35 den1 btw https://tilde.best
+2019-08-09 15:28:36 BitBot [Title] ~best | pubnix - https://ttm.sh/IR
+2019-08-09 15:28:37 southerntofu lol there's nothing new there
+2019-08-09 15:28:52 den1 design
+2019-08-09 15:28:53 southerntofu (yes there's a new external font)
+2019-08-09 15:28:54 den1 ?
+2019-08-09 15:29:04 southerntofu the background color changed yes ^^
+2019-08-09 15:29:05 den1 changed some text
+2019-08-09 15:29:17 younix "you are absolutely free to do it unless you cause problems at our servers"
+2019-08-09 15:29:22 younix ABSOLUTE FREEDOM*
+2019-08-09 15:29:43 younix * Warning: Partial freedom
+2019-08-09 15:30:25 den1 oh sorry
+2019-08-09 15:30:28 den1 you are right
+2019-08-09 15:30:54 den1 im editing font now
+2019-08-09 15:32:17 younix tilde.world is $3
+2019-08-09 15:32:24 * younix contemplates
+2019-08-09 15:34:24 --> Alinna25 (realname) (~Alina@53.red-88-24-175.staticip.rima-tde.net) has joined #meta
+2019-08-09 15:34:27 ~ahriman deeebo
+2019-08-09 15:37:17 <-- Alina25 (~Alina@188.red-88-12-143.dynamicip.rima-tde.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds)
+2019-08-09 15:37:37 younix chu talkin bout ahriman
+2019-08-09 15:52:48 TechEmporium_ There... Once & for all, this modem configuration had better work
+2019-08-09 15:53:05 krowbar :immediately breaks:
+2019-08-09 15:53:07 * southerntofu feels like they've heard that before.
+2019-08-09 15:53:54 TechEmporium_ lol
+2019-08-09 15:54:19 TechEmporium_ I'ev also renewed thermal grease on a Toshiba N305 netbook
+2019-08-09 15:54:21 southerntofu apparently you can always count on your IRC buddies for support
+2019-08-09 15:56:15 TechEmporium_ lol IRC's the one thing I use to monitor if my modem screws up
+2019-08-09 15:56:26 echelon lol
+2019-08-09 15:56:38 echelon i have a home IP client up on my home network
+2019-08-09 15:56:44 echelon just to monitor if its about to ping out
+2019-08-09 15:56:50 echelon everything else i use is on my dedicated server
+2019-08-09 15:56:59 echelon home IRC network
+2019-08-09 15:57:58 den1 self hosted fonts are just ready on https://tilde.best
+2019-08-09 15:57:59 BitBot [Title] ~best | pubnix - https://ttm.sh/IR
+2019-08-09 15:58:08 den1 what was the other things that you recommened?
+2019-08-09 15:58:39 den1 i will make documention soon btw
+2019-08-09 16:00:23 * southerntofu is pretty new to generic types and doesn't know how to approach problems :-/
+2019-08-09 16:01:59 younix expand them into concrete types?
+2019-08-09 16:02:30 younix SQL EXPLAIN my-program
+2019-08-09 16:02:44 krowbar southerntofu: like are you looking for an explanation?
+2019-08-09 16:02:59 southerntofu something like that, i want to have a GenericFrontmatter type that captures everything from YAML/JSON/TOML (that part is fine really)
+2019-08-09 16:03:33 southerntofu but then i want to be able to specialize this Frontmatter into native structs like a PageFrontMatter or a DocFrontmatter or something
+2019-08-09 16:04:07 southerntofu so i think i need to impl into for GenericFrontmatter but i wouldn't know how to write this function
+2019-08-09 16:04:20 krowbar what language are you working in?
+2019-08-09 16:04:23 southerntofu i'm currently reading some serde_yaml/serde_json code but it's way beyond my understanding :)
+2019-08-09 16:04:26 southerntofu rust
+2019-08-09 16:04:55 TechEmporium_ Sounds like someone's getting a bit rusty :^3
+2019-08-09 16:05:05 krowbar boo!
+2019-08-09 16:05:19 southerntofu also i'm assuming there's already a somewhat automagic way to do it
+2019-08-09 16:05:25 * TechEmporium_ dodges rotten tomatoes
+2019-08-09 16:05:28 southerntofu because that's what serde_yaml and serde_json do
+2019-08-09 16:06:21 southerntofu i mean the easy approach is to impl From for PageFrontmatter directly but i would like the boilerplate code to reside on the library side
+2019-08-09 16:08:25 TechEmporium_ Note to self; do NOT use Arctic Silver 5 thermal grease on an Atom N270
+2019-08-09 16:08:33 southerntofu like basically for each entry in the frontmatter does the struct i'm converting to have a key like that otherwise if the struct has an `extra` Map field put the entry there, otherwise discard it entirely.... something like that
+2019-08-09 16:09:18 southerntofu i'm sure it's not that hard since many people do that already, i'm just not deep enough into understanding the language to achieve this^^
+2019-08-09 16:10:55 echelon good afternoon southerntofu
+2019-08-09 16:10:57 echelon how goes it
+2019-08-09 16:11:10 southerntofu good evening noon echelon, good and you?
+2019-08-09 16:11:20 echelon heh @ time zones
+2019-08-09 16:11:30 southerntofu :d
+2019-08-09 16:11:31 echelon not bad; hanging about
+2019-08-09 16:11:35 echelon getting used to this new schedule
+2019-08-09 16:11:37 echelon where i have energy
+2019-08-09 16:11:42 echelon and i'm done with work by noon now
+2019-08-09 16:11:46 echelon my 'real job'
+2019-08-09 16:11:51 echelon i can come home and work on the 'dream'
+2019-08-09 16:11:52 echelon haha
+2019-08-09 16:11:53 southerntofu wow that sounds great :)
+2019-08-09 16:12:18 echelon i've been a warehouse grunt for over a decade now
+2019-08-09 16:12:40 echelon assembly lines, logistics, shipping&recieving, material handling and forklifts heh
+2019-08-09 16:13:06 echelon until recently i was literally a 'robot' lol for loading trailers for outbound FedEx Ground trailers
+2019-08-09 16:13:14 southerntofu fuck that capitalist shit
+2019-08-09 16:13:17 echelon last "trailers" is redundant
+2019-08-09 16:13:51 echelon well capitalism keeps food on the table
+2019-08-09 16:13:54 echelon and i have power and a home
+2019-08-09 16:13:55 echelon heh
+2019-08-09 16:14:40 southerntofu sure, but there's plenty of non-capitalist ways of keeping food on the table
+2019-08-09 16:14:41 echelon well you'll hate me i moved onto a better less taxing job at an even bigger capitalist hub
+2019-08-09 16:14:48 echelon poached actually
+2019-08-09 16:14:54 southerntofu i'd say capitalism does a terrible job of keeping food on the table for most people ^^
+2019-08-09 16:15:12 southerntofu why would i hate you? it takes what it takes to survive in this world, i'm not here to judge
+2019-08-09 16:20:13 TechEmporium_ den1: making a new tilde server?
+2019-08-09 16:22:35 den1 yep
+2019-08-09 16:22:43 den1 currently making a new website for it
+2019-08-09 16:22:50 den1 tomorrow documention and scripts
+2019-08-09 16:22:57 den1 and 2 days later probably public release
+2019-08-09 16:22:58 TechEmporium_ Need help with basic setup tips or software suggestions?
+2019-08-09 16:23:05 den1 suggestion might be good
+2019-08-09 16:23:14 den1 but planned to make my own scripts
+2019-08-09 16:23:27 den1 but i can just add something new incase something missing
+2019-08-09 16:23:29 TechEmporium_ Nice
+2019-08-09 16:23:40 TechEmporium_ PM? Or here?
+2019-08-09 16:23:47 den1 lets go #best
+2019-08-09 16:23:52 den1 ?
+2019-08-09 16:23:55 TechEmporium_ Sure
+2019-08-09 16:31:29 southerntofu so for further reference passing the deserialized (from_str()) mapping to serde_json::from_value() works just fine as long as mapping is passed as a value
+2019-08-09 16:32:09 ~ahriman yeah and if the destination type implements serde::Deserialize
+2019-08-09 16:32:10 southerntofu let frontmatter: SpecializedFrontmatter = serde_json::from_value(&generic_frontmatter.into())?;
+2019-08-09 16:32:15 southerntofu yes sure :)
+2019-08-09 16:32:48 ~ahriman otherwise it gets pulled into a hashmap. serde doesn't like enums which is why i did it manually (was just easier for me)
+2019-08-09 16:34:30 southerntofu it's crazy how a such expressive type system with a few well-thought interfaces brings automagic stuff like that
+2019-08-09 16:34:39 southerntofu it feels supernatural to me coming from a python background
+2019-08-09 16:36:06 ~ahriman it's rly nice aint it
+2019-08-09 16:37:39 southerntofu sure, only got bitten once in the foot because you can't deserialize to TOML when there'a map after simple keys (on the same level)
+2019-08-09 16:37:52 southerntofu because TOML output would be ambiguous so it just panics
+2019-08-09 16:38:19 southerntofu but apart from this my experience with rust has been amazing
+2019-08-09 16:39:40 <-- smoerk (~quassel@176.10.99.200) has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds)
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+2019-08-09 16:53:31 hijackeel sup
+2019-08-09 16:55:38 hijackeel hey MEEETAAAAAAAAAA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYA9hvcLekg
+2019-08-09 16:55:40 BitBot [Youtube] A Streetcar Named Desire (3/8) Movie CLIP - Stella! (1951) HD (02:38) uploaded by Movieclips, 496,223 views (2575↑↓66) https://youtu.be/kYA9hvcLekg
+2019-08-09 16:57:57 southerntofu oi
+2019-08-09 16:59:38 radiobot cat is now online playing (cat) now playing: Parvus Decree - The Floor ~~ 9 listeners! tune in now here: https://tilderadio.org/listen
+2019-08-09 17:02:28 hijackeel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Me0iB35PQZw
+2019-08-09 17:02:29 BitBot [Youtube] Cockney Rejects - Oi Oi Oi (03:03) uploaded by Tristan Austin, 280,308 views (1234↑↓54) https://youtu.be/Me0iB35PQZw
+2019-08-09 17:03:25 southerntofu ahriman: do you know of a way for more informative serde errors? i was checking for error messages thrown with bad YAML, like with a string replaced by a map and i feel like "Error("invalid type: map, expected a string", line: 0, column: 0)" is not super helpful to the end-user (doesn't mention the struct attribute that was wrongly typed)
+2019-08-09 17:06:44 <-- frigginglorious (~Thunderbir@47.41.170.217) has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds)
+2019-08-09 17:11:42 TechEmporium_ lol
+2019-08-09 17:11:42 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-09 17:11:43 TechEmporium_ https://www.thedailybeast.com/8chan-users-migrating-to-zeronet-are-accidentally-revealing-their-locations
+2019-08-09 17:11:45 TechEmporium_ ,bef
+2019-08-09 17:11:46 BitBot [Title] 8chan Users Migrating to ZeroNet Are Accidentally Revealing Their Locations - https://ttm.sh/I9
+2019-08-09 17:11:46 BitBot [Ducks] TechEmporium_ befriended a duck in 3.42 seconds! You've befriended 1 duck in #meta!
+2019-08-09 17:11:48 TechEmporium_ Yes!
+2019-08-09 17:12:01 TechEmporium_ I quacked quick
+2019-08-09 17:12:36 echelon TechEmporium_
+2019-08-09 17:12:39 echelon oof @ that link
+2019-08-09 17:12:43 TechEmporium_ I know lol
+2019-08-09 17:12:56 dokuja wah wah
+2019-08-09 17:12:58 ~tomasino cat's awesome show of awesomeness has begun on tilderadio
+2019-08-09 17:13:00 TechEmporium_ That's an off & a yikes
+2019-08-09 17:13:22 --> l4p1n [l4p1n] (realname) (~l4p1n@104.44.104.92.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch) has joined #meta
+2019-08-09 17:13:35 l4p1n Here I am again :p
+2019-08-09 17:14:15 TechEmporium_ l4p1n: https://www.thedailybeast.com/8chan-users-migrating-to-zeronet-are-accidentally-revealing-their-locations
+2019-08-09 17:14:17 BitBot [Title] 8chan Users Migrating to ZeroNet Are Accidentally Revealing Their Locations - https://ttm.sh/I9
+2019-08-09 17:15:31 TechEmporium_ Since 8chan has played host to the manifestos of 3 mass shooters in the US, Cloudflare revoked their anti-DDoS service to them, so they've decided to congregate on ZeroNet & make this technology yet another defeated attempt at security
+2019-08-09 17:15:34 TechEmporium_ :P
+2019-08-09 17:16:32 l4p1n except that they reveal their location because it's how P2P works
+2019-08-09 17:17:17 l4p1n meanwhile, I'm playing with Proxmox and trying to make a PoC
+2019-08-09 17:17:50 TechEmporium_ That's exactly the problem lol
+2019-08-09 17:18:10 TechEmporium_ They're all using P2P & think that this would help, regardless of VPN or not
+2019-08-09 17:19:12 l4p1n y'know... sometimes *shrugs*
+2019-08-09 17:19:35 TechEmporium_ lol
+2019-08-09 17:20:52 l4p1n when I receive a notification, my phone screams like a sheep / goat x3
+2019-08-09 17:22:00 TechEmporium_ When I receive a notification, it just plays a recording of me tellimg myself "Pick up your damn phone!"
+2019-08-09 17:22:51 TechEmporium_ It also doesn't help that my phone's home screen picture is a cross-eyed opossum looking straight at the camera
+2019-08-09 17:23:02 l4p1n oof
+2019-08-09 17:23:39 southerntofu nice 08chan got pwned lol
+2019-08-09 17:23:44 TechEmporium_ lol
+2019-08-09 17:24:00 l4p1n pwned by design I think :p
+2019-08-09 17:24:23 l4p1n gonna keep messing around with Proxmox
+2019-08-09 17:24:25 southerntofu well unfortunately most fascist communities are striving so i'm glad this one took a hit :)
+2019-08-09 17:24:29 echelon l4p1n
+2019-08-09 17:24:35 l4p1n echelon Go ahead ?
+2019-08-09 17:24:36 TechEmporium_ And you know what? Even if they used a Tor onion, they'd still fail because the FBI, CIA & NSA would cooperate in making exit nodes all around the US lol
+2019-08-09 17:24:37 echelon i was having issues with clustering
+2019-08-09 17:24:48 echelon kept getting that local address needs to be configured only once error
+2019-08-09 17:24:55 echelon or it would get stuck on quorum
+2019-08-09 17:25:16 l4p1n i started messing with prox yesterday, attempting at making a poc for my future production setup
+2019-08-09 17:25:28 echelon nice
+2019-08-09 17:25:32 echelon i love proxmox
+2019-08-09 17:25:37 echelon i use it with 2 dedicated
+2019-08-09 17:25:42 echelon vps creation is tits
+2019-08-09 17:26:02 l4p1n also, i was proud of me when i succeeded in NATting stuff properly :)
+2019-08-09 17:30:01 ~ubergeek You should have been l4p1n... everything new you learn should be celebrated :)
+2019-08-09 17:30:08 l4p1n works like a charm once again (https://l.l4p1n.ch/98SGUfP6/GApPH9NZ.png screenshot showing the index page of the default nginx vhost)
+2019-08-09 17:30:38 l4p1n ubergeek when I saw that page being displayed on my screen, I was in "Oh my gad it WORKS !" mode :p
+2019-08-09 17:30:47 ~ubergeek :D
+2019-08-09 17:31:35 <-- notnull (~notnull@91.ip-164-132-51.eu) has quit (The TLS connection was non-properly terminated.)
+2019-08-09 17:31:59 echelon NAT is fun
+2019-08-09 17:32:07 echelon so is internal networking 192.168.x through vswitch
+2019-08-09 17:32:09 echelon i did that too
+2019-08-09 17:32:13 l4p1n gotta love that jumphost ssh feature. it helps so much
+2019-08-09 17:32:15 echelon so my prox use vLAN
+2019-08-09 17:32:17 echelon and have much quicker
+2019-08-09 17:32:30 echelon tx/rx
+2019-08-09 17:32:31 echelon heh
+2019-08-09 17:33:20 l4p1n echelon the final setup will be double-natted: one time Internet <=> Internal home network, and the other time internal network <=> containers
+2019-08-09 17:33:31 --> notnull (notnull) (~notnull@37.220.36.240) has joined #meta
+2019-08-09 17:33:32 echelon nice
+2019-08-09 17:33:39 echelon i can set up a subnet between my vm's too
+2019-08-09 17:33:41 echelon it's dope
+2019-08-09 17:33:44 echelon i haven't done that yet though
+2019-08-09 17:33:49 l4p1n i have done that
+2019-08-09 17:33:49 echelon i'm going to do it with this second node i just made
+2019-08-09 17:34:19 l4p1n you create a virtual card, assign it an address, do some stuff and tell proxmox to use your newly created virtual card for networking :p
+2019-08-09 17:34:22 echelon you run it on debian?
+2019-08-09 17:34:37 l4p1n yes
+2019-08-09 17:34:47 echelon yeah i did that so i could use vLAN from a DC in one country to another country ;)
+2019-08-09 17:35:20 echelon ubergeek
+2019-08-09 17:35:32 echelon i did celebrate learning all new things about network interfaces that i didn't know about
+2019-08-09 17:45:58 southerntofu TechEmporium_: onion services don't go through exit nodes
+2019-08-09 17:46:16 southerntofu that would have indeed prevented the exposure in this case
+2019-08-09 17:46:23 southerntofu (not that i want to help fascists get better opsec lol)
+2019-08-09 17:46:27 TechEmporium_ lol
+2019-08-09 17:46:48 TechEmporium_ Now begins the cat & mouse game of chicken... If that makes sense
+2019-08-09 17:46:50 southerntofu TechEmporium_: just setup a real distro and join us on the onionspace already
+2019-08-09 17:46:57 TechEmporium_ lol
+2019-08-09 17:46:58 southerntofu you keep on spitting on tor but you run windows lol
+2019-08-09 17:47:06 TechEmporium_ I know lmfao
+2019-08-09 17:47:07 southerntofu how much more broken is that ? ^^^
+2019-08-09 17:47:32 TechEmporium_ I don't just spit on Tor; I spit on everything! I'm like Merlin in the movie Sword in the Stone
+2019-08-09 17:47:42 --> frigginglorious [frigginglorious] (frigginglorious) (~Thunderbir@75-128-229-176.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) has joined #meta
+2019-08-09 17:47:44 southerntofu i mean this in a friendly, constructive, non-judging way :)
+2019-08-09 17:47:59 TechEmporium_ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxhBbmf94Ss
+2019-08-09 17:48:00 BitBot [Youtube] Merlin Losing His Shit (02:44) uploaded by Elaine Smith, 100,352 views (866↑↓20) https://youtu.be/UxhBbmf94Ss
+2019-08-09 17:48:00 southerntofu TechEmporium_: yea i know but tor is one of those precious things that we have on earth
+2019-08-09 17:48:07 TechEmporium_ This is pretty much me
+2019-08-09 17:48:50 southerntofu nice community, nice codebase, a shittons of crazy crypto proposals, good translations, a coherent ecosystem...
+2019-08-09 17:49:35 southerntofu loll i see but with all your ancient wisdom you can probably do more constructive than that :D
+2019-08-09 17:49:56 ~ahriman TechEmporium_: that's one of those videos i didn't think i needed in my life
+2019-08-09 17:50:01 ~ahriman but i do
+2019-08-09 17:50:06 TechEmporium_ lol
+2019-08-09 17:50:25 southerntofu tor accepts proposals, i'd encourae you to read honion services work and contribute better proposals: https://gitweb.torproject.org/torspec.git/tree/rend-spec-v3.txt#n518
+2019-08-09 17:50:27 BitBot [Title] rend-spec-v3.txt - torspec - Tor's protocol specifications - https://ttm.sh/IN
+2019-08-09 17:51:49 TechEmporium_ Honestly, I think the most secure online OS at this point is MS-DOS with a working network driver & Arachne
+2019-08-09 17:52:46 southerntofu maybe secure in terms of network-firmware vulns, but that doesn't protect you from ISP/government snooping and such
+2019-08-09 17:53:26 southerntofu tor addresses issues on a different level
+2019-08-09 17:53:46 southerntofu you should use tor on your ms-dos box if you can get it to compile somehow :)
+2019-08-09 17:53:46 ~ubergeek Temol
+2019-08-09 17:53:47 TechEmporium_ I know lol
+2019-08-09 17:53:51 ~ubergeek TempleOS....
+2019-08-09 17:53:54 TechEmporium_ lol
+2019-08-09 17:53:57 southerntofu lol
+2019-08-09 17:54:02 TechEmporium_ I'm actually looking into TempleOS
+2019-08-09 17:54:05 ~ubergeek Most secure OS ever
+2019-08-09 17:54:12 TechEmporium_ It's God's OS
+2019-08-09 17:54:14 TechEmporium_ :P
+2019-08-09 17:54:19 ~ubergeek TechEmporium, it's actually quite genius
+2019-08-09 17:54:24 TechEmporium_ I know
+2019-08-09 17:54:27 ~ubergeek I like it, a lot
+2019-08-09 17:54:50 TechEmporium_ Just in time compilation of the entire OS on boot & it boots up 30 times faster than Windows
+2019-08-09 17:54:55 ~ubergeek I mean, on the fly, you can mix HolyC and assembly
+2019-08-09 17:55:00 TechEmporium_ Yes!
+2019-08-09 17:55:21 TechEmporium_ THAT's the kind of technology we need; to go back to 1983 & Commodore 64
+2019-08-09 17:55:46 ~ubergeek It's quite sad Terry didn't get the help he needed. He really could've have revolutionized computing
+2019-08-09 17:55:54 TechEmporium_ As soon as you turn on the switch to your computer, you've loaded the OS in 3 seconds
+2019-08-09 17:55:59 ~ubergeek Yep
+2019-08-09 17:56:11 TechEmporium_ That's the thing with Davis, though...
+2019-08-09 17:56:15 southerntofu i think the whole "god-enlightened me" business doesn't help :-/
+2019-08-09 17:56:31 TechEmporium_ southerntofu: that was because of his schizophrenia
+2019-08-09 17:56:51 ~ubergeek Yeah, that's the mental health problems... but I wonder if he could have created it, if he was medicated?
+2019-08-09 17:57:05 TechEmporium_ He actually believed his mental illness was God talking to him as a prophet to build the 3rd Temple of Solomon on a computer
+2019-08-09 17:57:34 TechEmporium_ He also ignored most of the x86_64 instruction set
+2019-08-09 17:57:47 ~ubergeek Yeah, ring0 only
+2019-08-09 17:58:09 TechEmporium_ When people would suggest ways to change it, he called them glow-in-the-dark CIA n***ers
+2019-08-09 17:58:16 southerntofu ubergeek: who could undertake such things under strong meds like that? :-/
+2019-08-09 17:58:22 TechEmporium_ Which tells me he somehow knew of Spectre & Meltdown from the start lol
+2019-08-09 17:58:50 ~ubergeek Or even if he wasn't plagued by his illness.. would we have gotten templeos?
+2019-08-09 17:59:20 TechEmporium_ Either way, there are 2 forks of TempleOS now
+2019-08-09 17:59:36 southerntofu TechEmporium_: any smart person would guess introducing complexity on such a micro level allows you to hide anything :)
+2019-08-09 17:59:37 TechEmporium_ https://github.com/obecebo/erythros
+2019-08-09 17:59:37 TechEmporium_ https://github.com/minexew/Shrine
+2019-08-09 17:59:39 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-09 17:59:39 BitBot [Title] GitHub - obecebo/erythros: An operating system based on TempleOS - https://ttm.sh/IH
+2019-08-09 17:59:40 BitBot [Title] GitHub - minexew/Shrine: A TempleOS distro for heretics - https://ttm.sh/Ig
+2019-08-09 17:59:42 TechEmporium_ ,bef
+2019-08-09 17:59:43 BitBot [Ducks] TechEmporium_ befriended a duck in 5.7 seconds! You've befriended 2 ducks in #meta!
+2019-08-09 18:00:21 TechEmporium_ southerntofu: he was using only Core2duo & they didn't introduce hyperthreading
+2019-08-09 18:00:48 TechEmporium_ Yet somehow, his mental illness caused him to assume that the CIA would abuse technology to spy on people
+2019-08-09 18:01:30 TechEmporium_ But Shrine is a project to add a network stack to TempleOS & Erythros is a project to add a DE similar to Xfce, on top of TempleOS
+2019-08-09 18:02:03 TechEmporium_ The creator of Erythros also ported a couple of video game emulators to it
+2019-08-09 18:02:04 southerntofu i wonder to what extent this person could have actually encountered such real-world operator and fallen into psychosis from the realization nobody believed him
+2019-08-09 18:02:09 southerntofu do you see what i mean?
+2019-08-09 18:02:14 southerntofu operations*
+2019-08-09 18:02:30 TechEmporium_ lol
+2019-08-09 18:02:43 southerntofu that he met some people from some three letter agency working on actually introducing vulns everywhere
+2019-08-09 18:02:44 TechEmporium_ He was schizophrenic when he was working for Ticket Master in the 90's
+2019-08-09 18:03:06 TechEmporium_ He graduated with honours from university in computer science, though
+2019-08-09 18:04:28 southerntofu so is there people taking templeos forward you said?
+2019-08-09 18:04:47 southerntofu maybe in a more agnostic way? (god-agnostic i mean :))
+2019-08-09 18:06:25 --> hyperboredoubt (hyperboredoubt) (hyperboredo@yourtilde.com) has joined #meta
+2019-08-09 18:06:40 hyperboredoubt Hi, peoples.
+2019-08-09 18:06:42 hyperboredoubt https://old.reddit.com/r/tilde/comments/cnztb0/whats_everyone_working_on_right_now/
+2019-08-09 18:06:43 BitBot [Title] What's everyone working on right now? : tilde - https://ttm.sh/If
+2019-08-09 18:06:54 jesopo tilde has a reddit :o
+2019-08-09 18:07:04 Fessus seems unnecessary
+2019-08-09 18:07:05 hyperboredoubt Yes.
+2019-08-09 18:07:13 hyperboredoubt Too late. It exists.
+2019-08-09 18:07:43 hyperboredoubt Two of the moderators are from tilde.team.
+2019-08-09 18:08:08 southerntofu but there's tilde.news for that isn't there?
+2019-08-09 18:08:46 ~tomasino yeah, tilde.news
+2019-08-09 18:09:53 ~ahriman idk i always forget the subreddit exists except for like once a month
+2019-08-09 18:10:26 southerntofu imo we should work on federated forums from our personal pages
+2019-08-09 18:10:35 southerntofu instead of wasting time with reddit
+2019-08-09 18:10:51 ~tomasino net news
+2019-08-09 18:11:00 southerntofu that's really not hard to build using microformats2 and webmentions for instance
+2019-08-09 18:11:20 TechEmporium_ Yeah... I don't use reddit either
+2019-08-09 18:12:12 TechEmporium_ southerntofu: There are people working on TempleOS, except only a few actually take it seriously enough to try & make meaningful improvements without mocking a mentally ill suicide victim for doing more than they ever will
+2019-08-09 18:12:18 southerntofu they don't allow creating accounts from tor, they will let recaptcha take away your time and mental energy until you finally solve it and reddit's backend says there was an error with the captcha, EVERY TIME
+2019-08-09 18:12:29 southerntofu don't ask me how i know this i wasted way too much time on that
+2019-08-09 18:12:49 southerntofu TechEmporium_: that's a sad state of things
+2019-08-09 18:14:20 TechEmporium_ All you have to do is go on 4chan & start a conversation about TempleOS. You'll see how quickly it will devolve into people making fun of Davis for being schizophrenic & Christian
+2019-08-09 18:14:26 l4p1n and it works flawlessly with Postgres in another container :D (https://l.l4p1n.ch/OiRCZehI/Q2VGJ0Pv.png, screenshot of a repository webpage)
+2019-08-09 18:14:44 southerntofu TechEmporium_: what does not devolve on 4chan? lol
+2019-08-09 18:17:56 southerntofu the problem on 4chan is 4chan, not the topic
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+2019-08-09 18:30:12 TechEmporium_ lol True
+2019-08-09 18:30:28 TechEmporium_ It's very rare that you find something useful up there
+2019-08-09 18:33:30 ~ubergeek The chans in general are where lulz go to die
+2019-08-09 18:35:48 ~ahriman there's reasons they are called the asshole of the internet
+2019-08-09 18:39:00 hyperboredoubt Are there any good parts of the internet?
+2019-08-09 18:39:13 clarjon1 hyperboredoubt; here
+2019-08-09 18:39:23 ~ahriman ^^^
+2019-08-09 18:39:29 hyperboredoubt It is *okay*.
+2019-08-09 18:39:51 ~ahriman it's better than anywhere else i've found thus far
+2019-08-09 18:40:12 ~ahriman "Tildeverse: the okayest place on the internet"
+2019-08-09 18:41:20 handyc http://www.whizkidtech.redprince.net/
+2019-08-09 18:41:24 BitBot [Title] Whiz Kid Technomagic - Home Page - https://ttm.sh/Ia
+2019-08-09 18:42:08 ~ahriman handyc: i saw you in a video the other day. sort of. it was smj (i believe) testing an old 1968 teletype by connecting to sdf and jumping on commode
+2019-08-09 18:42:20 ~ahriman super nifty
+2019-08-09 18:42:23 handyc ha ha, nice
+2019-08-09 18:42:33 handyc Yes, I was on SDF during one of the demos
+2019-08-09 18:43:30 ~ahriman it looked rly cool
+2019-08-09 18:44:29 handyc smj has all kinds of cool stuff
+2019-08-09 18:47:14 hyperboredoubt I'll be heading to the L.A.R.P. tonight.
+2019-08-09 18:48:53 southerntofu https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Non-English-based_programming_languages
+2019-08-09 18:48:54 BitBot [Title] Category:Non-English-based programming languages - Wikipedia - https://ttm.sh/IO
+2019-08-09 18:51:27 TechEmporium_ Chinese BASIC is on the list
+2019-08-09 18:51:29 ~ahriman whoa, Qalb is cool.
+2019-08-09 18:51:37 southerntofu ahriman: that's how i got here :)
+2019-08-09 18:52:12 ~ahriman nice
+2019-08-09 18:52:15 TechEmporium_ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esoteric_programming_language
+2019-08-09 18:52:17 BitBot [Title] Esoteric programming language - Wikipedia - https://ttm.sh/Im
+2019-08-09 18:52:23 TechEmporium_ Brainfuck :P
+2019-08-09 18:52:39 TechEmporium_ Christ... There's a JSFuck now
+2019-08-09 18:53:28 ~ahriman Pikachu!
+2019-08-09 18:55:31 ~ahriman http://trove42.com/introducing-pikachu-programming-language/
+2019-08-09 18:55:34 BitBot [Title] Introducing The Pikachu Programming Language - A Programming Language Made For Pikachus - https://ttm.sh/IM
+2019-08-09 18:58:55 southerntofu lol that's amazing
+2019-08-09 18:59:03 hyperboredoubt Sounds cute.
+2019-08-09 18:59:20 southerntofu love how the fibonacci is smaller than hello world because of the "hello world" string lol
+2019-08-09 19:03:53 handyc nice
+2019-08-09 19:04:17 handyc you could generate a large population of potential programs and test their pikachulity with a genetic algorithm
+2019-08-09 19:07:12 hyperboredoubt I must go now.
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+2019-08-09 19:14:27 hijackeel is solder one of the things that is more or less expensive to buy on amazon than elsewhere? and where even would elsewhere be?
+2019-08-09 19:16:51 handyc your local hardware store
+2019-08-09 19:17:07 handyc it's heavy, because it's a spool of metal
+2019-08-09 19:17:54 hijackeel everything is more expensive at my local hardware store
+2019-08-09 19:18:18 ~ahriman steel it
+2019-08-09 19:18:23 * ahriman ba-dum-tsh's
+2019-08-09 19:18:47 hijackeel also i want to stay at home on the computer
+2019-08-09 19:19:00 hijackeel I do need to make a trip to home depot or lowes though.
+2019-08-09 19:19:05 handyc then maybe it's worth it to you to order online
+2019-08-09 19:19:37 hijackeel yeah by "elsewhere" I meant "other websites"
+2019-08-09 19:20:04 hijackeel last time I bought solder was years ago and I don't remember where I bought it. Might have been mouser or digikey. Or radioshack? idk
+2019-08-09 19:20:43 ~ahriman https://www.digikey.com/products/en/soldering-desoldering-rework-products/solder/262?k=solder
+2019-08-09 19:20:45 BitBot [Title] Solder | Soldering, Desoldering, Rework Products | DigiKey - https://ttm.sh/IX
+2019-08-09 19:20:57 ~ahriman oh you already knew about them
+2019-08-09 19:20:58 handyc aliexpress
+2019-08-09 19:22:00 hijackeel I've never ordered from aliexpress. I've been thinking about trying it. Next time I need something where I don't mind waiting.
+2019-08-09 19:29:48 handyc I've ordered from them several times, and was often surprised by how fast things arrived
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+2019-08-09 20:05:26 * praetor waves
+2019-08-09 20:09:18 ~fosslinux hi praetor !
+2019-08-09 20:10:37 <-- l4p1n (~l4p1n@104.44.104.92.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch) has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds)
+2019-08-09 20:10:47 praetor heya fossy
+2019-08-09 20:24:38 <-- frigginglorious (~Thunderbir@rrcs-24-206-45-122.midsouth.biz.rr.com) has quit (Connection closed)
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+2019-08-09 20:47:46 TechEmporium_ handyc: I know in Canada that a roll of 28 AWG rosen-core colder costs about $12 CAN (& I only talk in REAL rolls, none of those dinky little tubes with only an inch's length of solder)
+2019-08-09 20:48:13 TechEmporium_ Sorry: 22 AWG
+2019-08-09 20:48:55 TechEmporium_ Also, tfw installing Windows 7 on a Lenovo R61i with 3 GB RAM & 250 GB HDD
+2019-08-09 20:48:56 TechEmporium_ Ugh
+2019-08-09 20:49:04 praetor ewwws
+2019-08-09 20:49:09 TechEmporium_ I know, right?
+2019-08-09 20:49:40 TechEmporium_ At this point, I'd rather be installing MS-DOS on a NEC Versa 2000D
+2019-08-09 20:50:24 praetor it's a shame that reactos isn't more...idk. granted I have an HP Elitebook with 16gigs ram and an SSD. but man, does it boot up fast
+2019-08-09 20:51:58 TechEmporium_ It really is a shame that there hasn't been enough contributions to push ReactOS out of alpha stage, in spite of over a decade's work
+2019-08-09 20:52:09 * praetor nods
+2019-08-09 20:52:26 praetor I mean you just don't realize how much cruft is in windows till you play with reactos
+2019-08-09 20:54:04 TechEmporium_ Oh yeah...
+2019-08-09 20:54:16 TechEmporium_ Hell; even when you've played with Windows 3.1
+2019-08-09 20:54:27 kirch I'd imagine so....
+2019-08-09 20:54:41 kirch Windows 10 is annoying :/
+2019-08-09 20:55:08 kirch I've been trying to get WSL2 - but I guess my hardware doesn't like the insider preview fast track ;_;
+2019-08-09 20:55:20 TechEmporium_ I'm actually using Windows 10 right now. I find it stable, but there's still a lot they can improve on (like Microsoft actually listening to its users by not trying to push Metro or any of that UI change stupidity)
+2019-08-09 20:55:27 kirch but then, on the previews, you send a shit-ton of data back to M$
+2019-08-09 20:55:41 * kirch is too -- but has terminator running in WSL
+2019-08-09 20:55:42 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-09 20:55:45 kirch ,bef
+2019-08-09 20:55:45 BitBot [Ducks] kirch befriended a duck in 2.56 seconds! You've befriended 11 ducks in #meta!
+2019-08-09 20:55:48 TechEmporium_ ,bef
+2019-08-09 20:55:48 BitBot [Ducks] TechEmporium_: There was no duck!
+2019-08-09 20:55:53 TechEmporium_ Crap
+2019-08-09 20:56:16 TechEmporium_ kirch: so does the finished product :P
+2019-08-09 20:56:35 kirch well, you can shut off the reporting on the standard track
+2019-08-09 20:56:44 kirch I'm sure it still sends stuff - just not as much
+2019-08-09 20:56:47 TechEmporium_ I ended up having to hack the telemetry out of my Windows 10 installation & killed Skype as well
+2019-08-09 20:56:58 kirch ugh, why is skype so awful?
+2019-08-09 20:57:05 TechEmporium_ Because Microsoft owns it
+2019-08-09 20:57:10 TechEmporium_ Even GitHub is awful
+2019-08-09 20:58:08 TechEmporium_ Not only does it use git (which I'm not a fan of because I'm a dinosaur who still programs with todo text files & only released finished versions without betas,) but GitHub also follows US trade embargo laws
+2019-08-09 20:58:12 kirch skype was bad before M$ bought it
+2019-08-09 20:58:18 TechEmporium_ So that means no service for you if you live in Crimea
+2019-08-09 20:58:39 kirch well, it does have "Crime" right there in the name :eye roll emoji:
+2019-08-09 20:58:40 TechEmporium_ Or Iran, Syria, North Korea, Cuba...
+2019-08-09 20:58:47 TechEmporium_ lol
+2019-08-09 20:58:51 kirch LAND OF THE FREE, unless....
+2019-08-09 20:59:05 TechEmporium_ The sad thing is all they could do is Crimea river when Microsoft did that
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+2019-08-09 20:59:18 * kirch is annoyed by how many people think the USA is the one and only free country
+2019-08-09 20:59:23 TechEmporium_ lol
+2019-08-09 20:59:41 TechEmporium_ I'm Palestinian Canadian. I think that's more than enough said lol
+2019-08-09 21:00:23 * praetor is a palentinian sympathizer. that remark will probably get me on a no-fly list, but whatevs
+2019-08-09 21:00:34 TechEmporium_ I doubt it lol
+2019-08-09 21:01:11 TechEmporium_ But yeah... Microsoft won't serve embargoed nations since they're a US enterprise
+2019-08-09 21:01:13 praetor idk. the US is so far up israel's ass
+2019-08-09 21:01:26 praetor but that's a #politics convo
+2019-08-09 21:01:30 TechEmporium_ Yeah
+2019-08-09 21:01:51 TechEmporium_ I'm no fan of any of the politics from any side (I'm actually from the Catholic minority)
+2019-08-09 21:02:02 * praetor nods
+2019-08-09 21:02:47 TechEmporium_ Things are so bad there, that even those Corcassians who were descended from the Circassian refugees that left Russia in the 18th century for the Ottoman empire have decided to go back to Russia
+2019-08-09 21:03:00 TechEmporium_ Circassians*
+2019-08-09 21:03:09 praetor I have a palestinian keffiyeh given to me by a friend. I love it. It's like seriously the most utilitarian piece of clothing
+2019-08-09 21:04:07 Fessus The Israel Palestine conflict is one of the better examples of symbiotic antagonism. i.e. the leadership on both sides benefit politically from further hostilities
+2019-08-09 21:04:19 Fessus it's kind of interesting to study
+2019-08-09 21:04:26 * praetor nods
+2019-08-09 21:06:04 TechEmporium_ Actually, there's 0 benefit on the Palestinian leadership because the rightful political party that was voted in by its people is a designated terrorist group
+2019-08-09 21:06:52 TechEmporium_ Abbas is a sitting duck & the leader of Hamas is isolated by his own antequated ideology that violence is the only solution
+2019-08-09 21:08:39 TechEmporium_ Eh... I'm glad I live in Canada
+2019-08-09 21:09:17 praetor I want to go to canada. the nicest guys I've talked to on tinder are in canada
+2019-08-09 21:09:24 praetor they don't immediately send dick pics
+2019-08-09 21:09:55 TechEmporium_ There are still some ignorant people up in Canada, just like the US
+2019-08-09 21:10:08 praetor idk, the US is cornering the market
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+2019-08-09 21:11:13 praetor I had a psych appointment, and I have to take the bus because I don't have a car.
+2019-08-09 21:11:24 ~ahriman i like how the measure of how nice someone is, is based on the time delay for them to send dick pics
+2019-08-09 21:11:38 praetor so I'm riding back home, and this dude is rapping like m&m on the bus. you can hear him
+2019-08-09 21:11:51 praetor he pulls the cord to hail his stop. the cord is broken.
+2019-08-09 21:12:03 ~ahriman oof
+2019-08-09 21:12:07 praetor so I tap him on the shoulder, and the dude is like "yo dog you touchin' me?"
+2019-08-09 21:12:18 praetor I'm like "Yes...the cord is broke, you have to hail the driver"
+2019-08-09 21:12:22 praetor dude was an ass about it
+2019-08-09 21:12:30 praetor go back to prison you douche weasel
+2019-08-09 21:13:27 TechEmporium_ We get that too in Canada; people don't realise how similar Southern Ontario is to New York
+2019-08-09 21:13:48 praetor lolol ahriman
+2019-08-09 21:13:49 TechEmporium_ People wearing their pants down to their ankles as they rap shitty mumble rap on the bus
+2019-08-09 21:13:54 ~ahriman i have something that remids me of that situation: https://web.archive.org/web/20080213082423/http://www.marginalia.org/dfw_kenyon_commencement.html
+2019-08-09 21:13:56 BitBot [Title] David Foster Wallace - Commencement Speech at Kenyon University - https://ttm.sh/Iy
+2019-08-09 21:14:30 ~ahriman someone gave me a copy of it when i was going through some rough shit a few years ago
+2019-08-09 21:15:57 ~fosslinux holy CRAP
+2019-08-09 21:16:03 ~fosslinux this is so damn cheap
+2019-08-09 21:16:11 ~fosslinux https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Dell-R610-Server-2x-X5650-6C12T-64GB-RAM-6x7k2-1T-SATA-and-2x-PSU/123867657549?hash=item1cd716754d:g:4-0AAOSwMvJc1Wge
+2019-08-09 21:16:13 BitBot [Title] Dell R610 Server 2x X5650 6C12T 64GB RAM 6x7k2 1T SATA and 2x PSU | eBay - https://ttm.sh/I6
+2019-08-09 21:16:39 ~ahriman wowww
+2019-08-09 21:17:09 TechEmporium_ Holy crap that's cheap!
+2019-08-09 21:17:15 TechEmporium_ Are you thinking of getting that?
+2019-08-09 21:19:20 praetor ohh, all the nodes at LNXI were Dell servers like that. very nice
+2019-08-09 21:21:29 ~fosslinux TechEmporium_: i wish
+2019-08-09 21:21:35 ~fosslinux if my parents would let me
+2019-08-09 21:22:50 praetor those don't eat alot of power
+2019-08-09 21:23:27 npa depends on how much thingies you got attached
+2019-08-09 21:23:49 npa maybe 500W-1kW? hard to guess what a usual configuration would take from the spec sheet
+2019-08-09 21:24:11 npa that's like 15-30c an hour in australia land though
+2019-08-09 21:24:20 praetor and SGI octane has a 750 W power supply, so I can't imaging it would eat more than an octane
+2019-08-09 21:24:44 npa !!! 30 cents an hour for a year is 2.6k ?!
+2019-08-09 21:24:59 npa power is expensive wew
+2019-08-09 21:25:06 ~fosslinux npa: iirc at idle they eat around 100W
+2019-08-09 21:25:27 npa that's still like 500 bucks a year
+2019-08-09 21:25:31 TechEmporium_ I actually have a Dell Precision T5500 spare that I want to sell off as well
+2019-08-09 21:25:32 ~fosslinux yeah exactly
+2019-08-09 21:25:33 npa or less, idk
+2019-08-09 21:25:42 TechEmporium_ I actually have a few things I want to sell
+2019-08-09 21:25:47 ~fosslinux mum and dad would Not Be Happy about that
+2019-08-09 21:26:08 TechEmporium_ I don't think anything else within earshot of those fans would either
+2019-08-09 21:26:13 ~fosslinux ooo yeah
+2019-08-09 21:26:20 ~fosslinux havent got anywhere to put it either
+2019-08-09 21:26:42 ~fosslinux ill just keep my pi's
+2019-08-09 21:26:49 TechEmporium_ The moment you boot up that thing, all ther birds in town will fly out of the trees, all the koalas will be hollering, all the spiders will crawl out of their nests for cover
+2019-08-09 21:27:13 TechEmporium_ The dingos will be howling while the kangaroos make it for the outback
+2019-08-09 21:27:16 TechEmporium_ jk
+2019-08-09 21:27:22 praetor ahahahaha
+2019-08-09 21:27:45 TechEmporium_ It'd probably upset the balance of nature in fosslinux's neighbourhood
+2019-08-09 21:27:58 ~fosslinux lmao
+2019-08-09 21:27:58 praetor australia is a delicate place
+2019-08-09 21:28:18 TechEmporium_ On the plus side, it might push all the bullfrogs to migrate to Tasmania
+2019-08-09 21:28:25 praetor but then, I heard that Australia is just British Texas
+2019-08-09 21:28:32 TechEmporium_ Nah
+2019-08-09 21:28:43 ~ahriman british texas
+2019-08-09 21:28:49 npa yeehaw mate
+2019-08-09 21:28:54 TechEmporium_ If it were British Texas, everyone would have the right to carry guns while all street signs are in Arabic :P
+2019-08-09 21:28:54 ~fosslinux ugh
+2019-08-09 21:29:17 praetor ahahaha
+2019-08-09 21:29:30 TechEmporium_ Reminds me... How's the camel situation & why haven't Saudi Arabia stepped in to take them back?
+2019-08-09 21:29:41 ~ahriman camels??
+2019-08-09 21:29:52 ~fosslinux ?
+2019-08-09 21:29:53 npa we export the largest amount of camels
+2019-08-09 21:30:02 npa saudi arabia buys them for racing
+2019-08-09 21:30:06 npa it's wack
+2019-08-09 21:30:07 ~fosslinux uh
+2019-08-09 21:30:07 ~ahriman WAT
+2019-08-09 21:30:11 ~fosslinux actually?
+2019-08-09 21:30:12 praetor whoa
+2019-08-09 21:30:13 npa yea
+2019-08-09 21:30:15 TechEmporium_ Dromedary camels are an introduced species in Australia
+2019-08-09 21:30:40 TechEmporium_ But camels back home are used for everything from transport & entertainment, to food
+2019-08-09 21:30:41 praetor so like y'all just have camels roaming around?
+2019-08-09 21:30:42 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-09 21:30:43 npa ,trap
+2019-08-09 21:30:43 BitBot [Ducks] npa trapped a duck in 1.89 seconds! You've trapped 77 ducks in #meta!
+2019-08-09 21:30:47 TechEmporium_ ,bef
+2019-08-09 21:30:47 BitBot [Ducks] TechEmporium_: There was no duck!
+2019-08-09 21:30:50 ~fosslinux no
+2019-08-09 21:30:51 TechEmporium_ Bah
+2019-08-09 21:30:54 ~fosslinux ive never seen a camel
+2019-08-09 21:30:56 ~ahriman oh like how we race hog in the US and it's an invasive species
+2019-08-09 21:31:03 npa in the desert praetor
+2019-08-09 21:31:13 npa you race pigs?!
+2019-08-09 21:31:23 praetor where ahriman lives they do
+2019-08-09 21:31:24 TechEmporium_ They're out loose & wild in the Outback, except that there's a cull of them going on
+2019-08-09 21:31:32 ~ahriman duh, do you know how much easier it is to break a Colt-Hog than a Colt?
+2019-08-09 21:31:42 npa there's culls of all animals constantly going on in australia
+2019-08-09 21:31:52 TechEmporium_ Yeah, but bigs are great for tracking truffles inthe woods
+2019-08-09 21:31:54 npa there's something like 2.5 million feral cats or something nuts
+2019-08-09 21:32:04 TechEmporium_ I just feel sorry for them when their masters give them nothing but acorns to eat
+2019-08-09 21:32:18 TechEmporium_ You want feral cats? Come visit Tel Aviv
+2019-08-09 21:32:24 ~ahriman oh we have so-called outlaw quadripeds: coyote, armadillo, hog, uhhh ... idk what else. legal to kill at any time in any amount.
+2019-08-09 21:32:36 TechEmporium_ They'll even fight the bilge rats in the harbour
+2019-08-09 21:32:42 ~ahriman because they're considered destructive to the environment
+2019-08-09 21:32:45 npa yeah people are mostly free to hunt some things in australia
+2019-08-09 21:32:45 ~ahriman oh yeah nutria too
+2019-08-09 21:32:50 npa kangaroos and foxes mainly
+2019-08-09 21:33:01 TechEmporium_ I wouldn't call armadillos outlaws, though. I mean they're just tactical opossums when you think about it
+2019-08-09 21:33:07 ~ahriman HA
+2019-08-09 21:33:22 * praetor adopts all the Tel Aviv kittehs
+2019-08-09 21:33:34 TechEmporium_ I mean both get run over... It's just that you hear a loud crunch when you run over an armadillo
+2019-08-09 21:33:46 ~ahriman :(
+2019-08-09 21:33:58 praetor we have armadillo. well duh, this is texas
+2019-08-09 21:34:00 TechEmporium_ And they're leprosy carriers, apparently
+2019-08-09 21:34:02 praetor they carry leprosy
+2019-08-09 21:34:08 TechEmporium_ lol
+2019-08-09 21:34:18 ~ahriman fucking leprosy
+2019-08-09 21:34:36 TechEmporium_ They've reached all the way up to Missouri apparently. And they've encountered opossums, who have also reached up to Central Ontario
+2019-08-09 21:34:40 npa i thought leprosy was a dead illness
+2019-08-09 21:34:42 praetor like people out in west texas eat them
+2019-08-09 21:34:44 npa like it doesn't exist anymore
+2019-08-09 21:34:44 TechEmporium_ Those cute little bastards lol
+2019-08-09 21:34:52 praetor how they do not get leprosy, I don't know
+2019-08-09 21:34:54 TechEmporium_ npa: you're thinking of Small Pox
+2019-08-09 21:35:08 npa probably
+2019-08-09 21:35:18 TechEmporium_ it's kind of like how some African bats are immune to ebola
+2019-08-09 21:35:29 TechEmporium_ Or how some rats seem immune to the plague
+2019-08-09 21:35:38 praetor so what are you saying?
+2019-08-09 21:35:46 praetor west texans are immune to leprosy?
+2019-08-09 21:35:48 TechEmporium_ Armadillos are immune to leprosy
+2019-08-09 21:35:52 TechEmporium_ lol
+2019-08-09 21:36:05 npa i hear opossums are immune to lyme disease
+2019-08-09 21:36:09 TechEmporium_ They are
+2019-08-09 21:36:16 npa and that opossums are marsupials?
+2019-08-09 21:36:20 TechEmporium_ Yes
+2019-08-09 21:36:25 praetor ugly little fuckers
+2019-08-09 21:36:32 npa interesting
+2019-08-09 21:36:36 TechEmporium_ I think they're cute. They can be easily tamed
+2019-08-09 21:36:41 praetor fist time I saw one, it was at night, and there was one on my balcony railing
+2019-08-09 21:36:44 praetor fucker hissed at me
+2019-08-09 21:36:48 TechEmporium_ lol
+2019-08-09 21:36:49 praetor I'm all throwing shit at it
+2019-08-09 21:36:58 praetor trying to scare it off with my lighter
+2019-08-09 21:37:02 TechEmporium_ The first I saw one, it was snowing & it went to hide under my car.
+2019-08-09 21:37:23 TechEmporium_ My mom was afraid because she's never seen one for the whole time she lived in Canada since 1967
+2019-08-09 21:37:37 praetor cuz they ugly and hiss
+2019-08-09 21:37:45 TechEmporium_ So my mom's telling me in a panic that there's some animal with a bald tail that went under my car.
+2019-08-09 21:37:58 TechEmporium_ Then I was like "Wait what? Oh... It's just an opossum"
+2019-08-09 21:38:03 praetor weird.
+2019-08-09 21:38:11 praetor I'm from Wyoming and we don't have possums up there
+2019-08-09 21:38:31 TechEmporium_ I brush the snow off of my car & as soon as I reverse, there's the little guy looking overhead, probably wondering what happened to its shelter
+2019-08-09 21:38:47 TechEmporium_ Then it went lumbering towards the nearest evergreen bush
+2019-08-09 21:38:59 TechEmporium_ We have them in Ontario
+2019-08-09 21:39:33 TechEmporium_ They're surprisingly gentle if you don't surprise them, though. And it's very easy to prove to it that you're no threat; they're very trusting
+2019-08-09 21:39:50 TechEmporium_ Same with quols & bilbies in Australia, apparently
+2019-08-09 21:39:51 praetor did you not hear one hissed at me?!
+2019-08-09 21:39:59 TechEmporium_ I did; you scared it first lol
+2019-08-09 21:40:25 TechEmporium_ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pv0AJWZr4h4
+2019-08-09 21:40:26 BitBot [Youtube] Pet opossum eating (01:45) uploaded by Natalie Dunkel, 82,728 views (1225↑↓28) https://youtu.be/Pv0AJWZr4h4
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+2019-08-09 21:42:01 TechEmporium_ They also have bad vision
+2019-08-09 21:42:40 praetor well, yeah. flicking my lighter at it probably wasn't a good idea
+2019-08-09 21:43:22 praetor aww. now he's kinda cute
+2019-08-09 21:44:18 TechEmporium_ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXhPZ2GLI3E
+2019-08-09 21:44:19 BitBot [Youtube] Dachshund gets lick-loved by opossum. (01:21) uploaded by Angie Lo, 382 views (13↑↓0) https://youtu.be/NXhPZ2GLI3E
+2019-08-09 21:45:38 TechEmporium_ And lastly https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03TkH9cvsX0
+2019-08-09 21:45:39 BitBot [Youtube] Opie the opossum slubbing/licking his momma.#opossumlove (01:08) uploaded by Slang, 1,782 views (33↑↓0) https://youtu.be/03TkH9cvsX0
+2019-08-09 21:46:17 TechEmporium_ They'll mark their territories almost like cats; they'll lick & then rub the scent glands of their heads on whatever
+2019-08-09 21:47:20 praetor my kitteh does that to me :3
+2019-08-09 21:47:33 praetor speaking of the devil :D
+2019-08-09 21:55:03 npa because of how good debian stable was for me, i probably will stick to debian buster
+2019-08-09 21:55:43 npa can't wait to install texlive-full again :/
+2019-08-09 22:00:36 npa > d????????? ? ? ? ? ? keybase
+2019-08-09 22:00:46 npa interesting entry in ls -l /
+2019-08-09 22:11:48 praetor come frends....to the balcony
+2019-08-09 22:15:18 truth huh, broken filesystem?
+2019-08-09 22:15:49 npa truth: si
+2019-08-09 22:16:00 npa well, broken install
+2019-08-09 22:17:04 ~fosslinux oh dear
+2019-08-09 22:17:10 ~fosslinux speaking of broken stuff
+2019-08-09 22:17:39 ~fosslinux aussie had lxd. system dosent have enough resources for lxd or soemthing. lxd gets killed off. corrupted filesystem yay no more lxd
+2019-08-09 22:18:16 ~fosslinux corrupted lxd filesytem
+2019-08-09 22:19:00 praetor z...f....s
+2019-08-09 22:19:11 ~fosslinux if i had enough ram
+2019-08-09 22:19:23 ~fosslinux considering building a freenas system, actly
+2019-08-09 22:19:40 praetor freenas is zfs backed afaik
+2019-08-09 22:19:59 ~fosslinux yeah
+2019-08-09 22:21:44 npa lxd got OOM killed?
+2019-08-09 22:22:49 ~fosslinux i still am not sure.
+2019-08-09 22:22:57 ~fosslinux are there OOM logs?
+2019-08-09 22:23:02 ~fosslinux it may have been vultr, actly
+2019-08-09 22:23:47 ~fosslinux its def a possibility tho
+2019-08-09 22:26:39 npa system logs should have it
+2019-08-09 22:26:47 npa check uptime too
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+2019-08-09 22:46:12 ~fosslinux uptime is fine
+2019-08-09 22:46:44 praetor eww. water roach.
+2019-08-09 22:46:47 praetor so what do I do
+2019-08-09 22:46:51 praetor take my lighter to it
+2019-08-09 22:47:02 praetor why is that always my first instinct with animals I don't want around?
+2019-08-09 22:47:26 praetor *flick* *flick* pssst PSSST
+2019-08-09 22:48:06 praetor me fire. me protecc
+2019-08-09 22:48:31 ~fosslinux lollol
+2019-08-09 22:51:25 praetor hey man, it worked for the cave men and look at us now. all apex-y predator like
+2019-08-09 22:52:19 ~ahriman it's basically all we've got
+2019-08-09 22:52:19 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-09 22:52:21 ~ahriman ,bef
+2019-08-09 22:52:21 BitBot [Ducks] ahriman befriended a duck in 1.91 seconds! You've befriended 55 ducks in #meta!
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+2019-08-09 23:13:56 TechEmporium_ lol
+2019-08-09 23:14:24 TechEmporium_ If you don't mind the smell of burned insects, praetor, go ahead & burn it. Just don't inhale :P
+2019-08-09 23:14:50 praetor I don't want to burn it, I just don't want it coming towards me
+2019-08-09 23:15:16 praetor I'm not a monster
+2019-08-09 23:44:50 npa they don't exactly feel pain
+2019-08-09 23:47:18 npa also, i didn't realise that burning an iso was as simple as: sudo cp img.iso /dev/sdc
+2019-08-09 23:57:49 TechEmporium_ lol
+2019-08-09 23:58:11 TechEmporium_ I don't mind burning bugs, as long as I don't have to smell the smoke
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+2019-08-10 00:01:15 ~fosslinux npa: dd if=img.iso of=/dev/sdc is often more relisble
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+2019-08-10 00:05:59 vantablack yo
+2019-08-10 00:06:45 kirk781 I can't see you, vantablack :p
+2019-08-10 00:07:34 vantablack lol
+2019-08-10 00:08:00 patrick hi vanta :)
+2019-08-10 00:08:08 vantablack hiiiiiiiiii
+2019-08-10 00:08:21 patrick wassssapppp
+2019-08-10 00:08:25 vantablack i'm vaping weed and getting tipsy lol
+2019-08-10 00:08:31 patrick NICE
+2019-08-10 00:08:35 vantablack merry fridaymas
+2019-08-10 00:08:39 patrick i keep saying nice like that to my friends lol
+2019-08-10 00:08:48 vantablack i have work tomorrow, but at 5 pm so it's all good
+2019-08-10 00:08:48 patrick I'm going to a birthday party tomorrow
+2019-08-10 00:08:52 vantablack nice
+2019-08-10 00:09:04 vantablack byob?
+2019-08-10 00:09:12 patrick what does that mean
+2019-08-10 00:09:19 vantablack bring your own booze
+2019-08-10 00:09:39 patrick oh no, i don't think they'll be any drinking
+2019-08-10 00:09:43 vantablack rip lol
+2019-08-10 00:09:52 patrick eh i'm not a big fan myself
+2019-08-10 00:10:03 vantablack to each their own :D
+2019-08-10 00:10:25 patrick i remember seeing my friend on the floor drunk and she kept bringing up her ex and holding her arms up
+2019-08-10 00:10:30 patrick it made me kinda sad ngl lmao
+2019-08-10 00:10:40 vantablack oofaroni
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+2019-08-10 00:11:13 TechEmporium_ ,help
+2019-08-10 00:11:13 BitBot [Help] I'm https://bitbot.dev. use ',modules' to list modules, ',commands ' to list commands and ',help ' to see help text for a command
+2019-08-10 00:11:16 vantablack has anyone here seen bojack horseman
+2019-08-10 00:11:24 patrick also I'm not sure if my closest friends is coming either
+2019-08-10 00:11:28 TechEmporium_ ,help bef
+2019-08-10 00:11:28 BitBot [Help] bef: Befriend a duck
+2019-08-10 00:11:35 TechEmporium_ ,help trap
+2019-08-10 00:11:35 BitBot [Help] trap: Trap a duck
+2019-08-10 00:11:38 patrick i've been meaning to see that show since I got Netflix last year
+2019-08-10 00:11:43 vantablack it's SO GOOD
+2019-08-10 00:11:47 vantablack like SO SO GOOD
+2019-08-10 00:11:57 vantablack but you have to give the whole first season a chance
+2019-08-10 00:12:01 patrick I've heard of it,
+2019-08-10 00:12:02 vantablack for reasons i won't spoil
+2019-08-10 00:12:04 TechEmporium_ ,commands
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+2019-08-10 00:12:18 patrick you always give the first season a chance, i agree
+2019-08-10 00:12:22 kirk781 vantablack, watt series are we talking of?
+2019-08-10 00:12:24 TechEmporium_ ,commands ducks
+2019-08-10 00:12:24 BitBot [Help] Commands for ducks module: befriend, bef, duckstats, enemies, friends, trap
+2019-08-10 00:12:28 vantablack kirk781: bojack horseman
+2019-08-10 00:12:31 TechEmporium_ ,duckstats
+2019-08-10 00:12:32 BitBot [Ducks] TechEmporium_ has befriended 2 and trapped 0 ducks (2/0 in #meta)
+2019-08-10 00:12:34 patrick TechEmporium_: is there a #bots channel you could switch to?
+2019-08-10 00:12:42 TechEmporium_ Didn't know. Thanks, man
+2019-08-10 00:12:45 kirk781 Jeez, weeb shit again
+2019-08-10 00:12:49 patrick it's aight lol
+2019-08-10 00:12:58 kirk781 No matter to watt internet corners one goes to, weebs exist
+2019-08-10 00:13:05 vantablack another really really good show is mr robot
+2019-08-10 00:13:11 kirk781 vantablack, now that is good :p
+2019-08-10 00:13:12 patrick I've watched Perfect Blue like 5 days ago, it was okay
+2019-08-10 00:13:33 vantablack never seen it lol
+2019-08-10 00:13:35 patrick I liked the scene where she explains to the woman how to use her new Macintosh Performa lol
+2019-08-10 00:14:02 patrick it's like a psycological thriller
+2019-08-10 00:15:17 patrick pop idol retires to become an actress, and she becomes a victim of stalking when everyone around her gets murdered
+2019-08-10 00:15:57 kirk781 I think I have seen Perfect Blue. Sure as heck I have heard a LOT of positive reviews for it
+2019-08-10 00:16:09 patrick there's some pretty gruesome and upsetting scenes, I thought it was ok
+2019-08-10 00:16:22 patrick I have just heard that it was quite different and it tried it's best
+2019-08-10 00:17:15 patrick idk maybe there is some stuff my friend and I didn't understand
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+2019-08-10 00:19:15 patrick I hope this party is good, goodnight vantablack
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+2019-08-10 01:28:06 npa ok, hm, burning debian to the usb isn't showing up
+2019-08-10 01:32:13 login did you use dd?
+2019-08-10 01:32:57 npa tried dd, and balena etcher
+2019-08-10 01:33:09 npa the iso i downloaded had correct sha256
+2019-08-10 01:33:27 login just open the iso and copy the files over
+2019-08-10 01:33:31 login don't try to burn the iso
+2019-08-10 01:33:49 login is the usb formatted with ext3 or ext4?
+2019-08-10 01:34:18 login to recover from hangs and crashes, you gotta make sure it's journaled, the file system, even though that reduces the life of the flash drive
+2019-08-10 01:34:40 login i haven't tried debian+usb, but i have tried ubuntu+usb
+2019-08-10 01:34:57 login dd made it read-only, burning the iso would do a similar thing i expect
+2019-08-10 01:35:36 login you just gotta mount the iso on an existing debian, then format the flash drive using existing debian, then a copy-all and paste into the flash drive
+2019-08-10 01:39:52 npa it claims to be iso9660 file system
+2019-08-10 01:40:41 login that should not be the file system of the flash drive
+2019-08-10 01:40:44 login it'll be unwritable
+2019-08-10 01:40:49 npa i see
+2019-08-10 01:41:11 login so you'll only be able to store things in memory, all to be erased when the flash drive is plugged out
+2019-08-10 01:41:30 login good for tails or something
+2019-08-10 01:41:42 npa it has all the debian install files on there though
+2019-08-10 01:41:48 login you gotta use gpartition
+2019-08-10 01:42:09 login so this flash drive will be used to install debian on another hard drive?
+2019-08-10 01:42:24 login in that case, iso9660 should be alright. is it bootable?
+2019-08-10 01:42:45 login you can check the flash drive in gpartition to see if it's bootable or not (it says on there)
+2019-08-10 01:43:03 login oh wait, it's called gparted
+2019-08-10 01:46:34 npa idk gparted keeps crashing
+2019-08-10 01:46:47 npa probably hopeless to try and use this comp to do things
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+2019-08-10 02:39:42 ~fosslinux login: nonono don't copy the files over
+2019-08-10 02:44:33 login well, alright
+2019-08-10 02:44:49 login but it should have been npa: nonono don't copy the files over
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+2019-08-10 02:49:51 ~fosslinux login, npa: these days isos (less than 4 yrs old) can be dd to USB drives
+2019-08-10 02:50:08 ~fosslinux and dd will not make it read only
+2019-08-10 03:03:43 login i tried to do that with ubuntu. it made it read only
+2019-08-10 03:03:48 login the iso was less than 4 years old
+2019-08-10 03:03:59 login it copies the filesystem over too, dd
+2019-08-10 03:04:41 login since the iso filesystem isn't rewritable, adding or removing files from the flash drive doesn't work (without formatting)
+2019-08-10 03:04:45 login *without reformating
+2019-08-10 03:04:48 login *reformatting
+2019-08-10 03:05:01 login i don't know why gparted crashes, but i hope there's a way to not make it crash
+2019-08-10 03:05:18 login gparted is just a gui to command-line tools to format drives
+2019-08-10 03:52:06 npa and i'm back
+2019-08-10 03:52:26 npa nah i think the USB is busted
+2019-08-10 03:52:45 npa did it with a different usb, and it worked (dd did not, i used a imaging program isntead)
+2019-08-10 03:52:57 npa gparted crashed because my system was all messed
+2019-08-10 03:54:42 npa gotta install all my packages again
+2019-08-10 03:54:42 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-10 03:54:44 npa ,trap
+2019-08-10 03:54:44 BitBot [Ducks] npa trapped a duck in 2.1 seconds! You've trapped 78 ducks in #meta!
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+2019-08-10 04:01:48 login hello nop
+2019-08-10 04:01:51 login l4pin
+2019-08-10 04:01:56 login *l4p1n
+2019-08-10 04:02:05 l4p1n morning
+2019-08-10 04:03:38 login morning
+2019-08-10 04:03:54 l4p1n how's ya?
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+2019-08-10 04:59:34 den1 good morning utc
+2019-08-10 05:00:28 snurryboy oi
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+2019-08-10 05:02:04 npa goot morning (UGT)
+2019-08-10 05:02:11 npa g o o t
+2019-08-10 05:04:07 den1 m o r n i n g
+2019-08-10 05:09:31 l4p1n den1 hi :p
+2019-08-10 05:11:54 den1 now making scripts for ~best
+2019-08-10 05:12:00 den1 not best for now
+2019-08-10 05:12:14 npa whaddya using to host it?
+2019-08-10 05:12:49 den1 unfortunately aws for now
+2019-08-10 05:13:00 den1 but planning to switch to hetzner when accepting registrations
+2019-08-10 05:13:06 snurryboy ,t
+2019-08-10 05:13:06 BitBot [Title] No URL provided/found.
+2019-08-10 05:13:14 snurryboy ,time
+2019-08-10 05:13:15 BitBot [Time] Time for snurryboy: 2019/08/10 19:13:15
+2019-08-10 05:13:23 snurryboy ,w
+2019-08-10 05:13:23 BitBot [Weather|snurryboy] (Goonellabah, AU) 15C/60F | Clear Sky | Humidity: 25% | Wind: 31.3KMh/19.5MPh
+2019-08-10 05:13:25 den1 ,w snurryboy
+2019-08-10 05:13:25 BitBot [Weather|snurryboy] (Goonellabah, AU) 15C/60F | Clear Sky | Humidity: 25% | Wind: 31.3KMh/19.5MPh
+2019-08-10 05:13:28 npa ,w
+2019-08-10 05:13:29 BitBot [Weather|npa] (New South Wales, Australia) 10C/50F | Broken Clouds | Humidity: 86% | Wind: 38.9KMh/24.2MPh
+2019-08-10 05:13:32 den1 ,w
+2019-08-10 05:13:32 <-- team.tilde.chat has kicked BitBot (Channel flood triggered (trigger is 10 lines in 20 secs))
+2019-08-10 05:13:35 npa shits windy
+2019-08-10 05:13:37 npa lmao
+2019-08-10 05:13:39 --> BitBot [BitBot] (BitBot) (bitbot@bitbot.dev) has joined #meta
+2019-08-10 05:13:40 den1 lol
+2019-08-10 05:13:45 snurryboy i been loving thr no rain
+2019-08-10 05:13:50 snurryboy lol yea it is
+2019-08-10 05:13:55 snurryboy my fav
+2019-08-10 05:13:57 snurryboy uh
+2019-08-10 05:14:08 snurryboy my outdoor table got blown over
+2019-08-10 05:14:15 snurryboy cause of the umbrella
+2019-08-10 05:14:25 snurryboy https://youtu.be/AFcund-zfrI
+2019-08-10 05:14:27 BitBot [Youtube] My drunk friend sent this to me at 4:04am. (02:59) uploaded by Gimli Son of Gloin, 3,097,541 views (229849↑↓4290) https://youtu.be/AFcund-zfrI
+2019-08-10 05:19:10 npa woah, i found a tilde that ben hasn't got an account on
+2019-08-10 05:20:42 <-- gareppa (~gareppa@151.15.127.43) has quit (quit: Leaving)
+2019-08-10 05:21:54 den1 3 visitors today ~best
+2019-08-10 05:21:58 den1 lol
+2019-08-10 05:22:10 den1 but nothing new to see :/
+2019-08-10 05:22:17 den1 but there will be in soon
+2019-08-10 05:31:37 den1 registered to hetzner
+2019-08-10 05:32:47 den1 lol hetzner requires verification
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+2019-08-10 05:43:31 den1 lol when you create your account hetzner sends you account info and tells you your e-mail and in password they say: The password you created when creating your account
+2019-08-10 05:43:39 den1 what if you make your password: The password you created when creating your account
+2019-08-10 05:43:44 den1 they sent your password in plaintext
+2019-08-10 05:43:48 den1 w0w
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+2019-08-10 05:50:22 southerntofu TechEmporium_: why don't you try RedoxOS/HaikuOS? or just setup OpenBSD/LFS/Guix/Debian....
+2019-08-10 05:52:16 southerntofu Fessus: symbiotic antagonism is what empires are all about
+2019-08-10 05:57:04 southerntofu den1: _o/ you know almost all server providers do that? :P
+2019-08-10 05:57:08 southerntofu you can't trust thsoe for your security
+2019-08-10 06:00:46 den1 registered to scaleway
+2019-08-10 06:00:58 den1 thanks to transferwise don't need a credit card
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+2019-08-10 06:17:57 siina ,w
+2019-08-10 06:17:57 BitBot [Weather|siina] (Jyväskylä, Central Finland, Finland) 21C/70F | Scattered Clouds | Humidity: 49% | Wind: 5.4KMh/3.4MPh
+2019-08-10 06:43:12 southerntofu ,w
+2019-08-10 06:43:12 BitBot [Weather] Please set location, e.g.: ,config u location London, GB
+2019-08-10 06:43:30 southerntofu ,config u location thunix.net, cyberspace
+2019-08-10 06:43:30 BitBot [Config] Invalid value. Example: London, GB
+2019-08-10 06:43:40 southerntofu :(
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+2019-08-10 07:05:57 southerntofu that's crazy even with vm.swappiness=1 i reach 300MB SWAP while i still have like 2 gigs RAM free
+2019-08-10 07:06:33 * southerntofu really loves the concept of a SWAPspace to store data you don't need, but why does the kernel automatically swap so much when there's free RAM around?
+2019-08-10 07:19:59 <-- kirk781 (~kirk781@203.110.242.18) has quit (quit: Leaving)
+2019-08-10 07:25:22 l4p1n southerntofu same thing. I don't get why. Maybe it's because these 300 MB pages are hardly ever used and the system decides to swap 'em out ?
+2019-08-10 07:25:35 southerntofu that's what kernel folks will tell you
+2019-08-10 07:25:54 southerntofu but in my experience shit gets slow fast enough for me to be sure it wasn't unused memory :P
+2019-08-10 07:28:37 von Hello everyone
+2019-08-10 07:30:08 l4p1n hellu von :p
+2019-08-10 07:30:13 southerntofu hello
+2019-08-10 07:30:46 l4p1n messing with storage on proxmox rn
+2019-08-10 07:32:22 southerntofu and i'm still messing with rust to build a generic frontmatter-parsing library hopefully ):
+2019-08-10 07:32:24 southerntofu :)*
+2019-08-10 07:32:48 southerntofu l4p1n: what kind of storage are you messing with?
+2019-08-10 07:33:53 l4p1n southerntofu nfs, local folders... just trying things out
+2019-08-10 07:34:15 l4p1n cuz I plan on putting my stuff in proxmox containers
+2019-08-10 07:40:35 southerntofu cool
+2019-08-10 07:51:59 npa getting mpd to work is about 80% of the way through configuring a system
+2019-08-10 07:59:39 southerntofu that's if you've got a sound card :)
+2019-08-10 08:11:06 npa tru tru
+2019-08-10 08:11:21 npa how do i tell if i'm running sway or i3
+2019-08-10 08:11:43 npa ps aux it i
+2019-08-10 08:11:45 npa s
+2019-08-10 08:28:16 den1 hi
+2019-08-10 08:29:40 creme heyho den & all meta's ;)
+2019-08-10 08:30:26 den1 hey creme
+2019-08-10 08:30:30 den1 when op on #meta :)
+2019-08-10 08:30:31 sarmonsiill Hi creme
+2019-08-10 08:34:53 l4p1n got container backups working properly (have to stop 'em tho or I'll get rsync errors with "operation not permitted"). I'll try one container with qcow
+2019-08-10 08:35:43 den1 os recommendations for ~best please
+2019-08-10 08:35:54 npa templeOS
+2019-08-10 08:36:27 den1 umm ok
+2019-08-10 08:36:30 den1 lets make it our os
+2019-08-10 08:36:49 den1 tilde jesus
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+2019-08-10 08:36:56 npa ubuntu or debian is certainly easy to administrate
+2019-08-10 08:37:06 den1 i think debian 10 for now
+2019-08-10 08:37:10 den1 is good
+2019-08-10 08:37:16 npa neaaaarly finished installing that on my laptop
+2019-08-10 08:37:42 den1 i was already using debian
+2019-08-10 08:37:48 den1 so it should be fine on tilde
+2019-08-10 08:37:56 den1 or we can just install openbsd?
+2019-08-10 08:38:06 npa ask ahriman about bsd
+2019-08-10 08:38:11 npa ~institute runs that
+2019-08-10 08:38:17 l4p1n den1 debian 10 is more than enough, at least for me
+2019-08-10 08:38:21 den1 i got free $500 on scaleway for 3 months
+2019-08-10 08:38:38 den1 after that i would have to downgrade server, to another "cheap" provider
+2019-08-10 08:38:45 den1 if i dont receive donations
+2019-08-10 08:38:54 npa gotta get that digitalocean pyramid scheme operating
+2019-08-10 08:39:55 den1 scaleway doesnt have buster
+2019-08-10 08:40:01 npa laaame
+2019-08-10 08:40:01 den1 but there should be a way to install in-os
+2019-08-10 08:40:07 den1 or i can directly add image of it
+2019-08-10 08:40:09 npa yea but that's effort
+2019-08-10 08:40:28 den1 what about ubunt 18.04
+2019-08-10 08:40:34 den1 ubuntu*
+2019-08-10 08:40:35 npa 19.04 is out innit
+2019-08-10 08:41:17 den1 we will have nice specs
+2019-08-10 08:42:11 den1 lol install fedora on it
+2019-08-10 08:42:13 den1 xd
+2019-08-10 08:42:48 npa you don't need too much, like enough to run oragano, a mail server, like 2 cores, and a bit spare ram
+2019-08-10 08:43:07 den1 i think port 25 is blocked by default
+2019-08-10 08:43:08 npa ~aussies is 1cpu, 1gb
+2019-08-10 08:43:10 l4p1n den1 changing apt sources from stretch to buster and apt update and apt full-upgrade should be good enough
+2019-08-10 08:43:15 den1 by will contact and make it unlock
+2019-08-10 08:43:27 den1 ~best will have 32gb ram at the beginning
+2019-08-10 08:43:35 npa chonker
+2019-08-10 08:44:08 npa team might be beefiest, it has 32GB and 6 threads
+2019-08-10 08:44:10 den1 wow, general purpose servers out of stock
+2019-08-10 08:44:20 npa dedi too
+2019-08-10 08:45:27 den1 unfortunately
+2019-08-10 08:45:37 den1 max that i can have at scaleway is 12gb ram and 8 threads
+2019-08-10 08:45:39 den1 ://
+2019-08-10 08:45:42 den1 others out of stock
+2019-08-10 08:45:47 den1 just missed by seconds
+2019-08-10 08:45:54 den1 they were just availabel
+2019-08-10 08:46:48 den1 how much storage do u want xd
+2019-08-10 08:47:23 den1 is 1020 gb too much?
+2019-08-10 08:47:30 npa lol
+2019-08-10 08:47:30 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-10 08:47:31 den1 if people don't register
+2019-08-10 08:47:32 npa ,trap
+2019-08-10 08:47:32 BitBot [Ducks] npa trapped a duck in 1.96 seconds! You've trapped 79 ducks in #meta!
+2019-08-10 08:47:33 den1 ,bef
+2019-08-10 08:47:33 BitBot [Ducks] den1: There was no duck!
+2019-08-10 08:47:40 den1 i can just mirror some stuff
+2019-08-10 08:48:02 den1 so lets do it xd
+2019-08-10 08:50:30 den1 it allows max of 120 gbs :/
+2019-08-10 08:51:10 den1 GP1-S
+2019-08-10 08:51:12 den1 General Purpose
+2019-08-10 08:51:14 den1 - 8 X86 64bit - 32 GB Memory
+2019-08-10 08:51:16 den1 y
+2019-08-10 08:51:22 den1 300 GB local storage
+2019-08-10 08:51:24 den1 Total size: 300 GB
+2019-08-10 08:51:51 den1 here is a invite for #meta to #best
+2019-08-10 08:52:06 den1 just enter #best and ask me questions
+2019-08-10 08:52:09 den1 about server, and
+2019-08-10 08:52:11 den1 best
+2019-08-10 08:52:15 den1 or just recommend some stuff
+2019-08-10 08:56:29 npa there are some docs in the wiki, or in ben's tildegit
+2019-08-10 08:57:02 npa that's all i know really, haven't gotten around to doing much
+2019-08-10 08:57:36 npa my last computer's hostname was moneymachine... i had to retire it though, it can't steal that name again
+2019-08-10 08:57:49 npa my computer is now reborn as... cashcomputer
+2019-08-10 08:58:45 den1 cool
+2019-08-10 08:59:00 den1 just creating swap file on scw-flamboyant-hawking
+2019-08-10 08:59:05 den1 random name generated by scaleway
+2019-08-10 08:59:07 den1 xd
+2019-08-10 08:59:11 den1 will change it
+2019-08-10 09:00:11 den1 16gb swap file
+2019-08-10 09:00:28 den1 105 seconds
+2019-08-10 09:03:29 --> kirk781 (realname) (~kirk781@203.110.242.6) has joined #meta
+2019-08-10 09:05:27 den1 hi kirk781
+2019-08-10 09:06:03 kirk781 den1, hello
+2019-08-10 09:06:11 kirk781 den1, changed your nick?
+2019-08-10 09:06:42 den1 actually no, i also have account at envs.net as den so i logged in with that den first so it reserved it and i just use den1 at ~team
+2019-08-10 09:06:53 den1 also created ~best servers today!
+2019-08-10 09:06:55 den1 :))
+2019-08-10 09:12:33 --> zack1 (zack) (zack@tilde.team) has joined #meta
+2019-08-10 09:12:33 -- Topic for #meta is "https://tildeverse.org general chat: https://tilde.chat ~ etiquette: https://ttm.sh/etiquette ~ ,ops to ping ops, don't use unnessecarily"
+2019-08-10 09:12:33 -- Topic set by fosslinux (~fosslinux@oper.tilde.chat) on Thu, 11 Jul 2019 18:04:23
+2019-08-10 09:12:33 -- Channel #meta: 164 nicks (14 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 150 normals)
+2019-08-10 09:12:35 -- Channel created on Tue, 19 Jun 2018 00:25:04
+2019-08-10 09:21:22 den1 what packages does #meta want installed on ~best
+2019-08-10 09:22:06 npa sl
+2019-08-10 09:23:59 npa night all
+2019-08-10 09:24:57 den1 did you mentioned steam locomative package
+2019-08-10 09:25:03 den1 installed it if you did
+2019-08-10 09:25:52 den1 are there any programming languages do you want?
+2019-08-10 09:28:23 <-- gareppa (~gareppa@151.15.127.43) has quit (quit: Leaving)
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+2019-08-10 09:39:13 echelon rebooting entire node
+2019-08-10 09:39:15 echelon be back in 5
+2019-08-10 09:39:30 <-- echelon (~jlb@jesus.pizza) has quit (quit: out)
+2019-08-11 08:24:40 --> zack1 (zack) (zack@tilde.team) has joined #meta
+2019-08-11 08:24:40 -- Topic for #meta is "https://tildeverse.org general chat: https://tilde.chat ~ etiquette: https://ttm.sh/etiquette ~ ,ops to ping ops, don't use unnessecarily"
+2019-08-11 08:24:40 -- Topic set by fosslinux (~fosslinux@oper.tilde.chat) on Thu, 11 Jul 2019 18:04:23
+2019-08-11 08:24:40 -- Channel #meta: 164 nicks (14 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 150 normals)
+2019-08-11 08:24:42 -- Channel created on Tue, 19 Jun 2018 00:25:04
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+2019-08-12 08:34:55 -- Topic for #meta is "https://tildeverse.org general chat: https://tilde.chat ~ etiquette: https://ttm.sh/etiquette ~ ,ops to ping ops, don't use unnessecarily"
+2019-08-12 08:34:55 -- Topic set by fosslinux (~fosslinux@oper.tilde.chat) on Thu, 11 Jul 2019 18:04:23
+2019-08-12 08:34:55 -- Channel #meta: 165 nicks (14 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 151 normals)
+2019-08-12 08:34:57 -- Channel created on Tue, 19 Jun 2018 00:25:04
+2019-08-12 08:39:35 krowbar ohai internet
+2019-08-12 08:40:17 southerntofu krowbar: hello
+2019-08-12 08:41:05 --> kirk781 (realname) (~kirk781@203.110.242.22) has joined #meta
+2019-08-12 08:41:49 krowbar southerntofu: so what makes "southerntofu" different from tofu in other cardinal directions?
+2019-08-12 08:42:08 southerntofu krowbar: exposure to the sun :P
+2019-08-12 08:42:36 kirk781 Hello
+2019-08-12 08:42:40 krowbar how does that affect the tofu?
+2019-08-12 08:43:02 southerntofu krowbar: deliciously
+2019-08-12 08:43:15 southerntofu hello kirk781 how are you?
+2019-08-12 08:43:56 kirk781 southerntofu, Fine. Just woke up from an afternoon nap
+2019-08-12 08:44:11 southerntofu sounds amazing :)
+2019-08-12 08:45:48 krowbar kirk781: intentional, i hope
+2019-08-12 08:46:15 kirk781 krowbar, Yes. I didn't sleep enough last night
+2019-08-12 08:46:56 krowbar i hope that helped. :) I'm really bad at naps; my brain keeps telling me all the things that I _could_ be doing. I think i have a bad case of FOMO
+2019-08-12 08:48:00 * southerntofu knows the feeling.
+2019-08-12 08:52:38 kirk781 I used to have an excellent sleep cycle back in the day which then deteriorated to the point of nothingness over the next few years
+2019-08-12 08:53:08 southerntofu what happened in between?
+2019-08-12 08:53:09 southerntofu new job?
+2019-08-12 08:57:24 kirk781 southerntofu, college :[p
+2019-08-12 08:57:34 southerntofu oh, that's the worst kind of new job :P
+2019-08-12 08:57:35 krowbar hahah, that will do it
+2019-08-12 08:57:39 kirk781 There was a time when I slept in the morning after doing breakfast
+2019-08-12 08:58:35 krowbar i never did that but there was a time i was up past 2 playing a board game with friends (it had already taken like 4hrs at that point) and I was like, "my dudes, i have to abidicate since i have an exam at 8am"
+2019-08-12 08:59:19 krowbar that is the kind of hard-core partying that krowbar does
+2019-08-12 09:02:23 kirk781 lol
+2019-08-12 09:12:49 ~ben goob mornign
+2019-08-12 09:15:15 kirk781 ben, morning
+2019-08-12 09:17:09 jesopo goobs b3n
+2019-08-12 09:18:10 krowbar how goes friend ben?
+2019-08-12 09:19:18 krowbar have you got any words of wisdom to drop on us like that other Ben with his Clever Dickey's book of aphorisms?
+2019-08-12 09:20:14 ~ben it's mondey
+2019-08-12 09:20:16 ~ben :s
+2019-08-12 09:20:30 jesopo it's a hungover monday
+2019-08-12 09:20:33 ~ben lol same
+2019-08-12 09:20:37 ~ben oops
+2019-08-12 09:20:45 jesopo oopsie doodles
+2019-08-12 09:20:46 krowbar not sure if that will help get me through the week
+2019-08-12 09:20:57 ~ben one step at a time
+2019-08-12 09:21:05 jesopo odaat
+2019-08-12 09:21:08 jesopo one day at a time
+2019-08-12 09:21:28 krowbar ok, i can get behind that one
+2019-08-12 09:21:34 krowbar the AA credo, right?
+2019-08-12 09:22:13 jesopo mhm
+2019-08-12 09:22:16 jesopo i got it on my keychain
+2019-08-12 09:23:28 younix I'm the king of the spreadsheets, I've got em all printed out on my bedsheets
+2019-08-12 09:24:11 jesopo the serenity prayer is also cool
+2019-08-12 09:24:16 jesopo even though god isn't real
+2019-08-12 09:30:47 ~ben +1
+2019-08-12 09:31:56 younix Isn't he?
+2019-08-12 09:32:24 southerntofu s/he/(s)he/
+2019-08-12 09:32:25 timemachine oh, that's t(s)he worst kind of new job :P
+2019-08-12 09:32:34 southerntofu lol fail by bot
+2019-08-12 09:33:48 ~ben it corrects your own message
+2019-08-12 09:33:58 ~ben i haven't seen any evidence for god being real
+2019-08-12 09:36:12 southerntofu i guess it's as real as people's beliefs make it, meaning it can yield great powers in our world if people make it so
+2019-08-12 09:36:18 jesopo ive seen lots of reasons that god isnt real
+2019-08-12 09:37:44 southerntofu jesopo: those ones? https://libcom.org/book/export/html/42085 :)
+2019-08-12 09:37:45 BitBot [Title] Does God Exist? Twelve Proofs of the Nonexistence of God - https://ttm.sh/nR
+2019-08-12 09:37:58 jesopo no
+2019-08-12 09:43:01 krowbar my question to people who don't believe in the existance of God is to repeat "and what came before that?" i don't think that a purely materialistic philosophy can adequately explain the existance of itself
+2019-08-12 09:43:43 southerntofu no, but any reasonable person will be like "who cares?" because they've got more important stuff to worry about :)
+2019-08-12 09:44:05 krowbar but that's just intellectually dishonest
+2019-08-12 09:44:35 southerntofu sure that's avoiding the question because we've got more worrying uqestions on our hands, in the present :P
+2019-08-12 09:44:36 krowbar and a bigger discussion than i think i have time for while i'm at work :]
+2019-08-12 09:45:07 southerntofu :)
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+2019-08-12 09:55:35 amcclure morning
+2019-08-12 10:08:24 ~ubergeek What came before what? Time?
+2019-08-12 10:08:44 ~ubergeek Because time didn't exist prior to the big bang (Time was set into motion at the big bang)
+2019-08-12 10:08:58 ~ubergeek So, it's impossible to measure or learn prior to that (As far as we know)
+2019-08-12 10:09:38 ~ubergeek As far as a god existing, it's surely possible. But with some caveats:
+2019-08-12 10:10:05 ~ubergeek This deity must be either the "Watch Maker" type god (Makes everything, sets it into motion, and never cares about it again), or...
+2019-08-12 10:10:51 ~ubergeek ... must recreate the universe every time they interact with it, because a being of omnipotence would create a gravity well so powerful, it would destroy existence upon interaction.
+2019-08-12 10:11:10 ~ubergeek Either is feasibly possible, but neither is testable.
+2019-08-12 10:13:10 <-- kirk781 (~kirk781@203.110.242.22) has quit (quit: Leaving)
+2019-08-12 10:13:15 TechEmporium Time is merely a human construct when you think about it. We're the only animals who get anxious over time & its passing
+2019-08-12 10:14:17 TechEmporium No other animal on the planet seeks to know what time it is to do what it does; humans, on the other hand, do all they can to restrict themselves within the boundaries of time
+2019-08-12 10:16:49 robdrake ,time tomasino
+2019-08-12 10:16:49 BitBot [Time] Time for tomasino: 2019/08/12 14:16:49
+2019-08-12 10:16:58 ~tomasino Moo
+2019-08-12 10:17:02 robdrake Hello
+2019-08-12 10:17:09 ~tomasino What's up
+2019-08-12 10:17:20 ~ben henlo tomasino
+2019-08-12 10:17:39 TechEmporium Had sweet dreams of 90's website design?
+2019-08-12 10:18:02 ~ubergeek No, time is a physical law
+2019-08-12 10:18:11 ~ubergeek It's a function of entropy
+2019-08-12 10:18:20 ~tomasino Hah
+2019-08-12 10:18:25 ~ubergeek or, entropy is a function of time
+2019-08-12 10:19:11 robdrake tomasino, PM
+2019-08-12 10:19:38 ~ubergeek So, regardless if an animal desires to track time or not, it still affects them. Like gravity.
+2019-08-12 11:22:33 --> zack1 (zack) (zack@tilde.team) has joined #meta
+2019-08-12 11:22:33 -- Topic for #meta is "https://tildeverse.org general chat: https://tilde.chat ~ etiquette: https://ttm.sh/etiquette ~ ,ops to ping ops, don't use unnessecarily"
+2019-08-12 11:22:33 -- Topic set by fosslinux (~fosslinux@oper.tilde.chat) on Thu, 11 Jul 2019 18:04:23
+2019-08-12 11:22:33 -- Channel #meta: 164 nicks (14 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 150 normals)
+2019-08-12 11:22:35 -- Channel created on Tue, 19 Jun 2018 00:25:04
+2019-08-12 11:22:56 southerntofu if only there was some form of karma on this planet capitalism would collapse under its own contradictions as the marxists foretold :)
+2019-08-12 11:23:20 southerntofu but there is no karma so we'll have to wait for the capitalists to destroy the whole planet before their system collapses lol
+2019-08-12 11:24:39 amcclure I see your point, I just don't really understand it anymore
+2019-08-12 11:26:17 southerntofu what don't you understand? that AI and IoT are just the industry's puppets to deprive us from autonomously computing our own data? or that they're destroying the planet along the way?
+2019-08-12 11:26:30 <-- kirk781 (~kirk781@203.110.242.17) has quit (The TLS connection was non-properly terminated.)
+2019-08-12 11:31:38 ~ubergeek I personally welcome AI, especially when it becomes sentient...
+2019-08-12 11:31:59 ~ubergeek It wont take very long to discover to root cause of this planet's problems, and remediate the problem.
+2019-08-12 11:32:36 ~ubergeek And then maybe the bees will have a go at the evolutionary ladder.
+2019-08-12 11:33:04 ~ubergeek Or Elephants. I think elephants (Maybe crows) have the next best shot. I only bet on elephants, because of their trunks.
+2019-08-12 11:33:15 --> kirk781 (realname) (~kirk781@203.110.242.17) has joined #meta
+2019-08-12 11:33:33 dgold southerntofu: that ads thing is totally true
+2019-08-12 11:33:56 dgold I mentioned it here, several weeks ago, and was ordered to take it to some ghetto
+2019-08-12 11:34:28 dgold google activates your microphone at random intervals, and processes the data it obtains to serve you ads
+2019-08-12 11:34:53 southerntofu fuck that shit how does that not surprise me lol
+2019-08-12 11:35:06 southerntofu who told you to fuck off? somebody here in the chan?
+2019-08-12 11:36:46 <-- r3m (~launch@ircwhoisguard.com) has quit (quit: WeeChat 2.6-dev)
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+2019-08-12 11:39:30 ~ubergeek sauce? Not that it's surprising, but just wanting to see the article explaining it
+2019-08-12 11:40:19 truth hello meta
+2019-08-12 11:40:21 <-- kirk781 (~kirk781@203.110.242.17) has quit (quit: Leaving)
+2019-08-12 11:40:25 southerntofu ubergeek: tbh everytime i've researched this issue i've stumbled upon people debunking it, but facing opposition from MANY users who said that's precisely what's happening to them; i'd also be curious for a serious source :)
+2019-08-12 11:40:30 southerntofu hey truth
+2019-08-12 11:41:45 --> kirk781 (realname) (~kirk781@203.110.242.17) has joined #meta
+2019-08-12 11:55:27 den1 !toot hi everyone
+2019-08-12 11:55:38 tooter tooted! https://tilde.zone/@tildeverse/102604822084544905
+2019-08-12 11:56:38 southerntofu :O
+2019-08-12 11:58:21 kirk781 ,np
+2019-08-12 11:58:23 BitBot [last.fm] kirk781 is listening to: Van der Graaf Generator - Killer (16 plays) (Progressive rock, art rock, classic rock, rock, 70s) - https://youtu.be/6CuOld2ldrc
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+2019-08-12 12:33:39 ~khuxkm hi all
+2019-08-12 12:33:55 ~khuxkm I'm playing BTD3, but I hacked in infinite money and lives
+2019-08-12 12:34:13 ~khuxkm (well, I downloaded a version with infinite money and lives)
+2019-08-12 12:34:32 ~khuxkm currently just grinding the early stages since I have no cheat engine
+2019-08-12 12:51:49 southerntofu have fun :)
+2019-08-12 12:52:48 krowbar !acronym BTD3
+2019-08-12 12:52:49 banterbot BTD3: Future hazy, try again later: Tilde.town Error
+2019-08-12 12:52:51 krowbar !acronym BTD
+2019-08-12 12:52:52 banterbot BTD: "Branch on Time of Day", "Bus Tie Duct", "Basic Thermo-Dynamics", "Bearing Temperature Detector", "Brunette Downs, Northern Territory, Australia", "Boot Toothsome Donning"
+2019-08-12 12:59:52 --> kirk781 (realname) (~kirk781@203.110.242.23) has joined #meta
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+2019-08-12 13:52:52 mhj Guten Moe-chan meta
+2019-08-12 14:14:24 krowbar an international welcome to you as well, mhj
+2019-08-12 14:16:38 ~ben henlo frens
+2019-08-12 14:18:10 mhj what's up :D?
+2019-08-12 14:21:03 ~ben the sky
+2019-08-12 14:21:05 ~ben ;)
+2019-08-12 14:30:13 den1 website is live & new ssl cert & documention for https://tilde.best
+2019-08-12 14:30:14 BitBot [Title] tilde best - https://ttm.sh/IR
+2019-08-12 14:30:18 krowbar are you sure it's not... what's down?
+2019-08-12 14:30:19 den1 ben i will create a fork request soon
+2019-08-12 14:30:33 ~ben den1: s/fork/pull/
+2019-08-12 14:30:34 timemachine ben i will create a pull request soon
+2019-08-12 14:31:12 den1 yep
+2019-08-12 14:31:14 den1 sorry
+2019-08-12 14:31:33 den1 fork && pull request :)
+2019-08-12 14:31:54 den1 documention is still early, will make it open-source soon
+2019-08-12 14:36:34 ~ben np
+2019-08-12 14:39:47 ~khuxkm if the sky is down, you're upside down lol
+2019-08-12 14:40:30 krowbar khuxkm: but which way is the enemy's gate?
+2019-08-12 14:40:32 den1 what if gravity is reverse
+2019-08-12 14:40:38 den1 lol
+2019-08-12 14:40:51 ~khuxkm if gravity is reverse we have worse problems than the sky being down
+2019-08-12 14:41:13 den1 cosmic voyage starts
+2019-08-12 14:41:36 ~ben enemy's gate is down
+2019-08-12 14:41:54 krowbar gotta clarify that...
+2019-08-12 14:41:56 krowbar like butter
+2019-08-12 14:42:19 ~ben i like that book
+2019-08-12 14:42:31 krowbar butter book?
+2019-08-12 14:42:42 ~khuxkm can't wait for ~best's .tilde TLD
+2019-08-12 14:42:45 ~khuxkm best.tilde
+2019-08-12 14:43:28 den1 is it reserved?
+2019-08-12 14:43:34 ~khuxkm kinda?
+2019-08-12 14:43:34 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-12 14:43:36 ~khuxkm ,bef
+2019-08-12 14:43:36 BitBot [Ducks] khuxkm befriended a duck in 1.85 seconds! You've befriended 7 ducks in #meta!
+2019-08-12 14:43:37 krowbar ,bef
+2019-08-12 14:43:38 BitBot [Ducks] krowbar: There was no duck!
+2019-08-12 14:43:39 krowbar aw
+2019-08-12 14:43:51 ~khuxkm the .tilde policy is that a tilde gets first dibs
+2019-08-12 14:44:08 den1 All domain names are first-come, first-served.
+2019-08-12 14:44:18 krowbar that is not true
+2019-08-12 14:44:21 den1 there are not .tilde hosts
+2019-08-12 14:44:26 krowbar but that probably is
+2019-08-12 14:44:28 den1 i mean no dns servers
+2019-08-12 14:44:39 ~ben https://tildenic.org
+2019-08-12 14:44:39 den1 lemme check ns list
+2019-08-12 14:44:44 den1 yep know that website
+2019-08-12 14:44:51 den1 are there any active server?
+2019-08-12 14:44:57 ~ben ?
+2019-08-12 14:45:00 den1 yes there is found that
+2019-08-12 14:45:02 den1 i mean dns server
+2019-08-12 14:45:07 den1 https://tildegit.org/.tilde/.tilde/wiki/NS-List
+2019-08-12 14:45:09 BitBot [Title] NS List - .tilde - tildegit - https://ttm.sh/nk
+2019-08-12 14:45:29 ~ben yup
+2019-08-12 14:45:31 krowbar oh wow, whatta'ya know
+2019-08-12 14:46:41 den1 am i have to worry
+2019-08-12 14:46:48 den1 about being fast
+2019-08-12 14:47:01 krowbar well you gotta go fast
+2019-08-12 14:51:10 ~ben about what being fast?
+2019-08-12 14:51:59 den1 creating a pull request now
+2019-08-12 14:52:12 den1 but no worries almost done
+2019-08-12 14:52:19 ~ben uh ok
+2019-08-12 14:57:06 den1 created a pull request
+2019-08-12 14:59:11 den1 lol thats a bit good best will be at the top of other tildes list
+2019-08-12 15:01:04 den1 ben: do you know how do i execute bash commands in apps like:
+2019-08-12 15:01:06 den1 weechat
+2019-08-12 15:01:27 den1 /server add chat irc.tilde.chat/6697 -ssl
+2019-08-12 15:01:37 den1 or do anyone know?
+2019-08-12 15:02:18 ~ben ??
+2019-08-12 15:02:22 ~ben what do you mean bash commands
+2019-08-12 15:03:09 den1 bash scripts
+2019-08-12 15:03:19 den1 in bash script
+2019-08-12 15:03:22 den1 you have weechat
+2019-08-12 15:03:25 den1 it opens weechat
+2019-08-12 15:03:33 den1 and how do you execute commands in prompt of weechat
+2019-08-12 15:03:58 den1 su $username
+2019-08-12 15:04:00 den1 weechat
+2019-08-12 15:04:11 den1 /server add chat irc.tilde.chat/6697 -ssl
+2019-08-12 15:04:23 den1 last one should be executed in prompt when you open weechat
+2019-08-12 15:04:34 den1 or are there any way to do this with /etc/skel configs
+2019-08-12 15:04:40 den1 adding tilde chat by default
+2019-08-12 15:05:03 ~ben ?
+2019-08-12 15:05:18 ~ben just add it to /etc/skel/.weechat/irc.conf
+2019-08-12 15:05:40 den1 ok thx
+2019-08-12 15:05:43 BitBot [RSS] tilde news: Newest Stories: US Senator Says Wireless Carriers Helping Trump Build 'Surveillance State' by cmccabe@users.tilde.news (cmccabe) - https://www.tomsguide.com/news/us-senator-says-wireless-carriers-helping-trump-build-surveillance-state
+2019-08-12 15:06:03 ~ben don't add the command there
+2019-08-12 15:06:06 ~ben add the server configs
+2019-08-12 15:06:43 den1 ??
+2019-08-12 15:07:20 ~ben just do something like weechat -d skel
+2019-08-12 15:07:31 ~ben run /server add tilde irc.tilde.chat/6697 -ssl
+2019-08-12 15:07:33 ~ben /quit
+2019-08-12 15:07:42 ~ben then sudo cp -r skel /etc/skel/.weechat
+2019-08-12 15:08:10 ~ben run /server add tilde irc.tilde.chat/6697 -ssl -autoconnect
+2019-08-12 15:11:26 den1 lol it gives nickname automatically
+2019-08-12 15:11:31 ~ben yes
+2019-08-12 15:11:35 ~ben also don't irc as root
+2019-08-12 15:11:36 den1 because i ran it with root
+2019-08-12 15:11:40 den1 ofc i dont
+2019-08-12 15:11:47 ~ben you just did though
+2019-08-12 15:11:50 den1 i just generated config with root
+2019-08-12 15:12:14 den1 also even i do with root there is nothing going to happen unless someone sends me something or i open it
+2019-08-12 15:12:16 den1 as i know
+2019-08-12 15:12:27 den1 what about editing username
+2019-08-12 15:12:44 ~ben you shouldn't need to do anything
+2019-08-12 15:12:46 den1 oh probably i will handle it with bash script
+2019-08-12 15:12:53 den1 it gives me username root but i dont ssh with root
+2019-08-12 15:12:58 ~ben ?
+2019-08-12 15:13:04 den1 irc
+2019-08-12 15:13:06 den1 with root
+2019-08-12 15:13:10 ~ben yeah don't do it
+2019-08-12 15:13:27 den1 let me try to do this without su den
+2019-08-12 15:14:26 --> den2 (root) (~root@51.15.111.54) has joined #meta
+2019-08-12 15:14:28 den2 hi
+2019-08-12 15:14:37 den1 actually not root
+2019-08-12 15:14:43 den1 you can try exploiting it lol
+2019-08-12 15:14:49 den1 its probably because i generated config as root
+2019-08-12 15:15:00 den1 ben: right?
+2019-08-12 15:15:18 ~ben idk go look at /etc/skel/.weechat/irc.conf
+2019-08-12 15:15:21 <-- den2 (~root@51.15.111.54) has quit (quit: WeeChat 1.6)
+2019-08-12 15:15:53 den1 yep it is
+2019-08-12 15:15:58 den1 how do you handle it
+2019-08-12 15:16:10 den1 are you making user generate own weechat config via script?
+2019-08-12 15:16:16 den1 or changing variables?
+2019-08-12 15:16:47 den1 env user
+2019-08-12 15:16:49 den1 got it
+2019-08-12 15:16:58 ~ben no it just copies from /etc/skel
+2019-08-12 15:17:23 den1 yes i have seen and it gives variable ${env:USER}
+2019-08-12 15:17:30 den1 lemme try that
+2019-08-12 15:17:43 southerntofu ( /etc/skel is the folder where default configs for software are stored )
+2019-08-12 15:17:53 southerntofu (default user-side config i mean)
+2019-08-12 15:21:15 krowbar wooouhhh! skellingtons!
+2019-08-12 15:24:38 ~ben adduser(8) copies them out to /home/$newuser
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+2019-08-12 15:29:35 den2 hi
+2019-08-12 15:29:48 den2 it works! :)
+2019-08-12 15:29:52 den2 did it on /etc/skel
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+2019-08-12 15:41:43 truth xfce 4.14 got released today
+2019-08-12 15:42:06 krowbar cool! did it include anything new of note?
+2019-08-12 15:46:06 truth they finally switched to gtk3
+2019-08-12 15:46:16 truth I'll have a look when it gets into Debian
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+2019-08-12 15:50:42 kirch just had an interview where the test was a "Word Ladder" in PHP -- where like, given an array of words, you had to check if only one letter changed between words -- so I said "given my knowledge that if you can think of a function, PHP has implemented it, each step of the ladder would have a levenshtein distance of one, so..." I searched DDG for "!php levenshtein" and
+2019-08-12 15:50:45 kirch https://www.php.net/manual/en/function.levenshtein.php ... quickly they said I couldn't use PHP's levenshtein function XD
+2019-08-12 15:52:43 ~ben lol nice kirch
+2019-08-12 15:52:58 ~ben php.net/levenshtein should redirect you there too :)
+2019-08-12 15:54:36 echelon ben: sooo
+2019-08-12 15:54:48 echelon our ISP doesn't allow multicasting so no quorum for clustering
+2019-08-12 15:54:53 echelon but i can use it as a separate VM spot
+2019-08-12 15:56:31 --> testuser (testuser) (~testuser@tilde.best) has joined #meta
+2019-08-12 15:56:39 testuser hi
+2019-08-12 15:56:49 ~ben were you planning on running a proxmoxbox at home?
+2019-08-12 15:56:52 den1 it works!! :))
+2019-08-12 15:57:06 ~ben den1: identd time
+2019-08-12 15:58:11 den1 how to
+2019-08-12 15:58:13 den1 :D
+2019-08-12 15:58:28 ~ben apt install openbsd-inetd ident2
+2019-08-12 15:58:37 ~ben then allow port 113
+2019-08-12 15:58:45 truth kirch: did you implement levenshtein's distance by hand?
+2019-08-12 15:58:53 den1 done
+2019-08-12 15:58:59 den1 do i need to reload anything? or reboot
+2019-08-12 15:59:10 ~ben should work
+2019-08-12 15:59:16 ~ben try reconnecting testuser
+2019-08-12 15:59:19 testuser !whois testuser
+2019-08-12 15:59:23 <-- testuser (~testuser@tilde.best) has quit (quit: WeeChat 1.6)
+2019-08-12 15:59:26 --> testuser (testuser) (testuser@tilde.best) has joined #meta
+2019-08-12 15:59:33 den1 did it
+2019-08-12 15:59:36 ~ben there
+2019-08-12 15:59:38 ~ben see
+2019-08-12 15:59:40 den1 ~testuser
+2019-08-12 15:59:42 den1 yep
+2019-08-12 15:59:45 ~ben the username field doesn't have the ~
+2019-08-12 15:59:52 den1 but when quit
+2019-08-12 15:59:58 den1 lol
+2019-08-12 16:00:00 den1 wut
+2019-08-12 16:00:05 <-- testuser (testuser@tilde.best) has quit (quit: WeeChat 1.6)
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+2019-08-12 16:00:13 ~ben woah weechat 1.6 what
+2019-08-12 16:00:13 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-12 16:00:15 ~ben ,bef
+2019-08-12 16:00:15 BitBot [Ducks] ben befriended a duck in 1.58 seconds! You've befriended 123 ducks in #meta!
+2019-08-12 16:00:15 den1 ,bef
+2019-08-12 16:00:15 BitBot [Ducks] den1: There was no duck!
+2019-08-12 16:00:17 southerntofu kirch: lol funny because you actually showed you understood the problem
+2019-08-12 16:00:21 ~ben https://weechat.org/download/debian/
+2019-08-12 16:00:22 den1 at begining
+2019-08-12 16:00:23 BitBot [Title] WeeChat :: download :: debian - https://ttm.sh/ui
+2019-08-12 16:00:26 den1 that was working
+2019-08-12 16:00:30 ~ben ?
+2019-08-12 16:00:31 den1 and when installed that
+2019-08-12 16:00:35 den1 see above
+2019-08-12 16:00:37 ~ben now it's working
+2019-08-12 16:00:39 den1 username have ~
+2019-08-12 16:00:44 den1 lol
+2019-08-12 16:00:47 ~ben the ~ means ident failed
+2019-08-12 16:00:48 kirch truth: yes, kinda
+2019-08-12 16:00:54 den1 oh, sorry
+2019-08-12 16:01:08 den1 ident means a user is connecting through nickname on serv?
+2019-08-12 16:01:13 ~ben no
+2019-08-12 16:01:14 den1 his username
+2019-08-12 16:01:22 den1 i mean
+2019-08-12 16:01:27 den1 his linux username
+2019-08-12 16:01:37 ~ben https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ident_protocol
+2019-08-12 16:01:38 BitBot [Title] Ident protocol - Wikipedia - https://ttm.sh/n7
+2019-08-12 16:01:56 den1 gopherpedia forever :)
+2019-08-12 16:03:25 * southerntofu just fixed zola's ToC with a nice recursive function
+2019-08-12 16:03:53 krowbar that doesn't sound nice
+2019-08-12 16:03:55 southerntofu (it previously mishandled headings of level > 3)
+2019-08-12 16:04:01 ~ben ooo
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+2019-08-12 16:16:01 southerntofu nice: git config --global http.proxy 'socks5://127.0.0.1:7070'
+2019-08-12 16:16:05 southerntofu 9050*
+2019-08-12 16:16:24 southerntofu why did i always think tor over git always had to be defined on a per-repo basis? :)
+2019-08-12 16:16:45 threv Huh! that's cool af
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+2019-08-12 16:29:07 robdrake Hello
+2019-08-12 16:30:37 krowbar hey ho robdrake
+2019-08-12 16:30:52 krowbar i say hi just to say bye. i'm heading home now! :)
+2019-08-12 16:31:12 robdrake safe trip krowbar
+2019-08-12 16:32:46 southerntofu krowbar: it is very nice actually, see https://github.com/getzola/zola/pull/774/files :)
+2019-08-12 16:32:47 BitBot [Title] Fix ToC generation for heading levels > 3 (bugfix) by southerntofu · Pull Request #774 · getzola/zola · GitHub - https://ttm.sh/nJ
+2019-08-12 16:32:51 southerntofu and have a good trip home
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+2019-08-12 17:45:22 ~khuxkm southerntofu: tor over git? now that's something I wanna read about!
+2019-08-12 17:45:36 ~khuxkm (git over tor, perchance?)
+2019-08-12 17:48:33 robdrake Hello again #meta
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+2019-08-12 18:54:07 southerntofu khuxkm: woops yes :P
+2019-08-12 19:31:00 robdrake Looks like Alice Cooper will be in Austrailia next Febuary
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+2019-08-12 19:46:52 TechEmporium Looks like I need a new mainboard for a Sega Genesis Model 1 Revision 7
+2019-08-12 19:47:59 TechEmporium Spent the better part of 2.5 hours trying to troubleshoot the Sega Genesis & found that 3 chips were burned, 2 which I could source, but 1 that's not manufactured anymore
+2019-08-12 19:53:32 ~khuxkm which one isn't manufactured anymore?
+2019-08-12 20:05:04 TechEmporium Sega 315-5487-01
+2019-08-12 20:05:33 TechEmporium It's a bus arbiter chip; it's what communicates between the cartridge & the processor/coprocessor
+2019-08-12 20:10:06 ~khuxkm maybe someone on BadnikZONE could help you out with that?
+2019-08-12 20:10:18 ~khuxkm if it's an out of print chip surely somebody's tried to do something about it
+2019-08-12 20:10:23 ~khuxkm (FPGA, etc)
+2019-08-12 20:13:34 TechEmporium pfft
+2019-08-12 20:13:48 TechEmporium An FPGA to repair something like this wouldn't really be worth it
+2019-08-12 20:14:09 TechEmporium Besides, I'm sure I can probably source a new mainboard
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+2019-08-12 21:05:47 mhj Sega does what Nintendon
+2019-08-12 21:05:51 mhj 't
+2019-08-12 21:05:59 mhj I mean, what's up all ``
+2019-08-12 21:06:09 TechEmporium lol
+2019-08-12 21:06:23 TechEmporium Doing alright, if it wasn't for that console being dead
+2019-08-12 21:06:25 mhj Gotta reboot into new kernel ``
+2019-08-12 21:06:35 mhj That sucks
+2019-08-12 21:06:50 mhj I grew up with the original Nintendo and then got a Genesis
+2019-08-12 21:07:04 TechEmporium I did too...
+2019-08-12 21:07:04 mhj Fond memories of that system
+2019-08-12 21:07:11 TechEmporium Also with Atari 2600 & Commodore 64
+2019-08-12 21:07:29 mhj The only home computer I experienced was the Apple II lol
+2019-08-12 21:07:47 TechEmporium I have memories of Commodore 64, Atari 2600, NES, Super NES, Genesis, Saturn & N64
+2019-08-12 21:07:48 mhj Later in my teen years I tried an Atari 2600
+2019-08-12 21:08:03 mhj Ooh cool :D
+2019-08-12 21:08:31 mhj I've always been a gamer, so I've had a lot of systems over the years
+2019-08-12 21:08:32 TechEmporium Then I got into the emulation scene
+2019-08-12 21:09:41 mhj What do you do in the emulation scene? Mostly play retro games or do play rom hacks or what ``? I mostly just use RetroArch and MAME nowadays to play anything
+2019-08-12 21:11:16 TechEmporium I was part of Jamie Sanders' project called vNES
+2019-08-12 21:11:49 TechEmporium Sanders made an NES emulator written as a Java Applet, which would run straight from the web browser
+2019-08-12 21:12:14 TechEmporium My involvement was also in getting documentation on Super NES & Sega Master System hardware
+2019-08-12 21:12:47 mhj That's pretty cool :D, I imagine that was really involved!
+2019-08-12 21:12:48 TechEmporium I also think I'm the only one who still kept the source code & binaries for vNES, vSNES & ClassicSegaOnline
+2019-08-12 21:13:05 TechEmporium The project lasted from 2006-2015 & I was there from 2008-2015
+2019-08-12 21:13:20 TechEmporium And the amount of shit he got from Nintendo was retarded lol
+2019-08-12 21:13:56 mhj Not surprising, Nintendo loves to C&D anything that even remotely has their name attached lol
+2019-08-12 21:13:57 amcclure any suggestions for web-based forums software?
+2019-08-12 21:14:12 TechEmporium Luckily, Sanders ended the project to focus more on his career, way before Nintendo decided to make their mini consoles as an excuse to release the legal hounds on the Scene runners
+2019-08-12 21:14:49 mhj amcclure: Discourse?
+2019-08-12 21:15:25 mhj I'm glad he got it before anything bad happened to him!
+2019-08-12 21:15:29 mhj *got out
+2019-08-12 21:15:36 TechEmporium amcclure: PunBB, phpBB, Simple Machines, Halley's Comet or if you're unable to use SQL databases, PHPJunkyard or MPB
+2019-08-12 21:15:46 TechEmporium Me too lol
+2019-08-12 21:16:13 TechEmporium And it seems only one person has an incomplete source backup online, while I have the complete source backup offline
+2019-08-12 21:16:18 TechEmporium https://github.com/bfirsh/vNES
+2019-08-12 21:16:20 BitBot [Title] GitHub - bfirsh/vNES: A mirror of Jamie Sanders' Java NES emulator, which once lived at virtualnes.com - https://ttm.sh/no
+2019-08-12 21:16:45 ~khuxkm just a shame that java applets aren't a thing anymore
+2019-08-12 21:16:50 ~khuxkm shit was lit
+2019-08-12 21:17:43 ~khuxkm it's like flash. is it always the right idea? no. is it still a good thing that should still be around? yes
+2019-08-12 21:18:08 TechEmporium I know... Shit was cash until Oracle bought out Sun & turned Java into an NSA backdoor lol
+2019-08-12 21:18:39 TechEmporium Fuck, man
+2019-08-12 21:18:44 TechEmporium I feel old now
+2019-08-12 21:19:03 TechEmporium I'm to the point that I imagine by fridge being stocked with nothing but prune juice
+2019-08-12 21:19:27 ~khuxkm I'm feeling so old that flash has been around for a huge portion of my life and now it just... won't be?
+2019-08-12 21:19:37 ~khuxkm luckily the standalone projectors still exist
+2019-08-12 21:20:04 mhj brb, I wanna get in this nostalgia talk lol
+2019-08-12 21:20:18 TechEmporium I just hate how Flash & Java applets have now been superceded by JavaScript
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+2019-08-12 21:21:48 TechEmporium Now I'm also tempted to modify that dead Genesis into an Arduino-based game console lol
+2019-08-12 21:22:17 ~khuxkm literally though, Flash has been around since 1995
+2019-08-12 21:22:22 ~khuxkm (probably even earlier)
+2019-08-12 21:22:32 ~khuxkm 24 years
+2019-08-12 21:22:39 ~khuxkm I'm only 16 though
+2019-08-12 21:22:55 ~khuxkm I've been around for the latter 2/3rds of Flash's life
+2019-08-12 21:25:07 ~khuxkm by the time I grow up and have kids, flash will no longer exist
+2019-08-12 21:25:22 ~khuxkm it'll just be "one of dad"
+2019-08-12 21:25:32 ~khuxkm s/"$/'s old things"/
+2019-08-12 21:25:32 timemachine it'll just be "one of dad's old things"
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+2019-08-12 21:31:11 ~khuxkm anyways, on a happier nostalgia note, BTD3 hacked is still fun af
+2019-08-12 21:31:57 ~khuxkm got like 20 Super Monkeys and some Monkey Beacons for shoot speed increase
+2019-08-12 21:32:37 ~khuxkm currently sitting at round 62
+2019-08-12 21:38:10 ~khuxkm currently powering through round 64
+2019-08-12 21:38:29 ~khuxkm you know what I want? something like RetroAchievements but for flash games
+2019-08-12 21:38:40 ~khuxkm sure, it'd be harder to implement
+2019-08-12 21:38:43 ~khuxkm but come on
+2019-08-12 21:38:44 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-12 21:38:45 ~khuxkm ,bef
+2019-08-12 21:38:45 BitBot [Ducks] khuxkm befriended a duck in 1.65 seconds! You've befriended 8 ducks in #meta!
+2019-08-12 21:39:27 ~khuxkm give me an achievement for completing level 50 of a track in BTD3
+2019-08-12 21:40:26 ~khuxkm give me a reason to legitimately enjoy playing BTD3 in long stretches that doesn't involve creating Tony Stark-esque scenarios of being so rich I can buy 20 Super Monkeys
+2019-08-12 21:53:33 TechEmporium I just feel old lol
+2019-08-12 21:53:35 TechEmporium I'm 32
+2019-08-12 21:54:25 TechEmporium https://d861dk9kf78fl.cloudfront.net/SEARCH-FOR-COMFORT-AD_STILL-1.jpg
+2019-08-12 21:54:29 TechEmporium This is exactly how I feel
+2019-08-12 21:58:23 TechEmporium khuxkm: https://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2010/07/01/128255649/emulating-nes-preserving-digital-artifacts-one-cartridge-at-a-time
+2019-08-12 21:58:24 BitBot [Title] NPR Choice page - https://ttm.sh/nr
+2019-08-12 21:58:27 TechEmporium There we go
+2019-08-12 21:58:51 TechEmporium This is practically the only thing other than that GitHub that remains of Sanders & his project
+2019-08-12 22:04:37 * praetor waves
+2019-08-12 22:08:13 TechEmporium Hey, praetor
+2019-08-12 22:08:22 TechEmporium How's it hangin'?
+2019-08-12 22:08:23 praetor howdy TechEmporium how goes it?
+2019-08-12 22:08:26 praetor it's hot
+2019-08-12 22:08:28 praetor so very hot
+2019-08-12 22:08:29 TechEmporium lol
+2019-08-12 22:08:53 praetor I had to bring all my peppers in
+2019-08-12 22:08:57 TechEmporium I'm alright. Just disappointed that I have a dead Sega Genesis model 1 rev 7 that I can't fix
+2019-08-12 22:09:00 praetor so our living room is like a pepper jungle now
+2019-08-12 22:09:11 praetor eewwwww...that sucks
+2019-08-12 22:09:11 TechEmporium Green peppers?
+2019-08-12 22:09:14 TechEmporium lmfao
+2019-08-12 22:09:24 TechEmporium Eww to the dead Genesis?
+2019-08-12 22:09:32 praetor yes
+2019-08-12 22:09:41 praetor and they're only green when they aren't ripe
+2019-08-12 22:09:47 praetor I have 9 different pepper plants
+2019-08-12 22:10:10 TechEmporium I mean it turns on, the power LED lights up... I get no screen output, no audio & no signal between the cartridge & the CPU.coprocessor
+2019-08-12 22:10:20 TechEmporium s/.///
+2019-08-12 22:10:27 TechEmporium Crap lol
+2019-08-12 22:10:32 TechEmporium CPU/coprocessor
+2019-08-12 22:10:52 praetor Anaheim, serrano, hatch, ghost, carolina reapers, turkish wax, habenero, ornamental pepper and jalepenos
+2019-08-12 22:11:02 praetor I feel like I'm forgetting one
+2019-08-12 22:11:11 TechEmporium Scotch bonet?
+2019-08-12 22:11:27 praetor no. I do plan on growing those at some point
+2019-08-12 22:11:45 TechEmporium That's bound to make a severe diarrhea-inducing chili
+2019-08-12 22:12:13 praetor well, the carolina reapers you can't really eat. they are the world's hottest pepper and will cause asphyxiation if you try and eat them
+2019-08-12 22:12:39 praetor I have to wear gloves if I handle them
+2019-08-12 22:12:41 TechEmporium So you just grow them as ornamental plants?
+2019-08-12 22:13:03 TechEmporium Reminds me of the time I had to handle Devil's Trumpets in my yard
+2019-08-12 22:13:12 praetor no. the ornamental pepper is ornamental, but I make hot sauces, chipotle, salsa, and pain cream out of the reapers
+2019-08-12 22:13:27 TechEmporium But I thought you couldn't eat them
+2019-08-12 22:13:43 praetor you can't
+2019-08-12 22:13:51 praetor but they make a wonderful pain relief cream
+2019-08-12 22:13:55 TechEmporium So you make inedible sauces?
+2019-08-12 22:13:56 TechEmporium Oh
+2019-08-12 22:13:59 TechEmporium I see now lol
+2019-08-12 22:14:27 praetor they cause asphyxiation because they short out the nerves in your throat. which is what makes them so good for pain relief like for arthritis or back pain
+2019-08-12 22:15:27 praetor devil's trumpets
+2019-08-12 22:15:28 TechEmporium Interesting...
+2019-08-12 22:15:29 praetor fiesty
+2019-08-12 22:15:45 TechEmporium I hate handling trumpets & non-edible nightshades
+2019-08-12 22:16:30 praetor yeah. trumpets are pretty, but they'll cause a bad day
+2019-08-12 22:16:33 TechEmporium Fuck that poisonous bullshit. I mean if you're not careful with nightshade plants, you can induce some severe hallucinations just by touching the juice
+2019-08-12 22:16:43 praetor oh wow
+2019-08-12 22:16:59 TechEmporium Trumpets are not as toxic, but still pretty damn toxic lol
+2019-08-12 22:17:24 praetor I want to go to that deadly garden in england
+2019-08-12 22:17:27 TechEmporium A good way to know how dangerous a nightshade plant is, is by its name.
+2019-08-12 22:17:32 praetor it's a garden full of things that can kill you
+2019-08-12 22:17:38 TechEmporium So hen's bane, for example
+2019-08-12 22:17:49 TechEmporium It's poisonous enough to kill a hen
+2019-08-12 22:17:55 praetor yeah. when philosophers use nightshade to kill themselves...
+2019-08-12 22:17:58 TechEmporium Or wolf's bane, rat's bane...
+2019-08-12 22:18:32 TechEmporium Bella Donna's juices were used in the Renaissance as eye drops to dilate a woman's pupils for beauty
+2019-08-12 22:18:38 praetor I want to get into carnivourous plants, but they are really difficult to do down here
+2019-08-12 22:18:40 TechEmporium But that's the most toxic of them all
+2019-08-12 22:18:45 TechEmporium lol
+2019-08-12 22:19:11 TechEmporium I've had some luck with venus fly traps, but you need constant humidity. I mean you have the heat, but they're jungle-type plants
+2019-08-12 22:19:12 praetor ouchy
+2019-08-12 22:19:35 praetor hmm, right now even my heat tolerant stuff is not tolerating the heat
+2019-08-12 22:19:36 praetor so idk
+2019-08-12 22:19:45 TechEmporium It's humidity, not heat
+2019-08-12 22:19:52 praetor oh we have humidity
+2019-08-12 22:19:57 TechEmporium You're whereabouts in Texas?
+2019-08-12 22:20:01 praetor fort worth
+2019-08-12 22:20:39 TechEmporium That's pretty central, but looks like it's still within the semi-desert limit
+2019-08-12 22:20:55 TechEmporium So it's pretty arid
+2019-08-12 22:21:19 * praetor nods
+2019-08-12 22:22:03 clarjon1 o/
+2019-08-12 22:22:10 TechEmporium So your area, sure it gets humid... But it's not often or constant enough, nor do you get constant cold fronts that are enough to condensate that humidity
+2019-08-12 22:22:30 praetor right now the only thing that is doing well is my russilea
+2019-08-12 22:23:02 praetor we keep bringing plants inside cuz it's hot
+2019-08-12 22:23:21 TechEmporium Fountainbushes are native to the area, though
+2019-08-12 22:23:51 TechEmporium I mean they grow naturally in Texas, Mexico & Guatemala
+2019-08-12 22:24:01 praetor yeah. they are. which is why it's the only plant doing well :p
+2019-08-12 22:24:20 praetor that and my texas olive
+2019-08-12 22:24:23 praetor also native
+2019-08-12 22:25:16 TechEmporium One plant I'd love to try growing is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equisetum
+2019-08-12 22:25:18 BitBot [Title] Equisetum - Wikipedia - https://ttm.sh/ns
+2019-08-12 22:25:24 TechEmporium Horsetail
+2019-08-12 22:25:47 praetor ohhhhhhhhh
+2019-08-12 22:25:49 praetor that looks fun
+2019-08-12 22:26:09 TechEmporium A plant that grows & reproduces like a fungus
+2019-08-12 22:26:52 TechEmporium I've grown mimosas too; they're fun
+2019-08-12 22:27:02 praetor yeah. spores
+2019-08-12 22:27:05 praetor reading the wiki article
+2019-08-12 22:27:12 praetor where would you get something like that?
+2019-08-12 22:27:42 TechEmporium I guess you'd have to ask around whatever garden or conservatory specialists
+2019-08-12 22:27:43 praetor oh, are those the ones that close up if you touch them?
+2019-08-12 22:27:47 TechEmporium Yes
+2019-08-12 22:27:51 praetor those are cool
+2019-08-12 22:28:08 TechEmporium Mimosas are the ferns that close up when you brush their leaves... Shy plant is another name
+2019-08-12 22:28:22 praetor I've always heard them called touch me nots
+2019-08-12 22:28:29 TechEmporium That too
+2019-08-12 22:28:41 TechEmporium It also sounds like part of the Mee Too movement
+2019-08-12 22:28:46 TechEmporium s/ee/e
+2019-08-12 22:28:46 timemachine It also sounds like part of the Me Too movement
+2019-08-12 22:28:49 praetor lmao
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+2019-08-12 22:43:07 younix Ahoy metis
+2019-08-12 22:44:03 praetor heya younix
+2019-08-12 22:44:19 TechEmporium Hey
+2019-08-12 22:44:19 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-12 22:44:21 TechEmporium ,bef
+2019-08-12 22:44:22 BitBot [Ducks] TechEmporium befriended a duck in 2.5 seconds! You've befriended 2 ducks in #meta!
+2019-08-12 22:44:22 ~khuxkm ,bef
+2019-08-12 22:44:22 BitBot [Ducks] khuxkm: There was no duck!
+2019-08-12 22:44:25 ~khuxkm f
+2019-08-12 22:44:26 TechEmporium Yes!
+2019-08-12 22:44:27 praetor yay
+2019-08-12 22:44:31 ~khuxkm gj
+2019-08-12 22:44:34 TechEmporium I try
+2019-08-12 22:44:58 TechEmporium khuxkm: quickdraw, or quackdraw?
+2019-08-12 22:45:04 ~khuxkm your choice
+2019-08-12 22:45:09 TechEmporium lol
+2019-08-12 22:45:23 TechEmporium I'm just frustrated with that Genesis board
+2019-08-12 22:45:48 TechEmporium And the thing is my dad hid the multimeter & I can't find it to test anything
+2019-08-12 22:48:30 younix You're trying to fix a Sega Genesis?
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+2019-08-12 23:06:08 TechEmporium I am, younix
+2019-08-12 23:06:30 TechEmporium It's a pain in the ass & it's because of faulty video RAM & a faulty custom bus arbiter chip
+2019-08-12 23:10:49 mhj Maybe I can send an incentive, how about, if you fix it, I buy you 10 copies of Shaq Fu for Genesis?
+2019-08-12 23:10:57 mhj `=`
+2019-08-12 23:14:44 TechEmporium lmfao
+2019-08-12 23:14:52 TechEmporium Shaq Fu :P
+2019-08-12 23:15:21 TechEmporium My incentive is more to get it working in general because I'm an electronics engineer from the emulation scene
+2019-08-12 23:16:29 mhj Well I honestly hope you can fix it. Lots of fun to be had with Gunstar Heroes and Shinobi 3 and Streets of Rage 2, right?
+2019-08-12 23:17:42 TechEmporium For me, It's Sonic 1-3 & Knuckles, Shinobi 3, Splatterhouse 2 & Bonanza Bros.
+2019-08-12 23:18:23 TechEmporium And then, there's Dark Castle for the 32x, which was shit when compared to the Commodore 64 & Macintosh Classic versions lol
+2019-08-12 23:19:03 ~khuxkm so it turns out that some of the things I really want to do for the Flash Achievements thing are going to be a pain in the ass
+2019-08-12 23:19:15 ~khuxkm like being able to track values in variables
+2019-08-12 23:19:36 ~khuxkm which'll require being able to figure out memory values in actionscript
+2019-08-12 23:22:24 mhj I've never given Splatterhouse 2 and Bonanza Bros a chance, I'll give them a try tomorrow!
+2019-08-12 23:23:24 mhj Nite all
+2019-08-12 23:25:59 TechEmporium Yeah... I'm also sad that they're getting rid of Flash because the one web based emulator I like is made in Flash
+2019-08-12 23:27:31 TechEmporium Night, mhj
+2019-08-12 23:31:24 TechEmporium Now I'm getting this hair-brained idea of modifying that Genesis board with an Arduino, to turn it into some other kind of console
+2019-08-12 23:38:47 TechEmporium ... Nah... I have a couple of project boxes & an arcade joystick I can use for that
+2019-08-13 00:14:07 TechEmporium Holy shit I managed to fix the Genesis enough for me to diagnose problems on it
+2019-08-13 00:14:18 TechEmporium Cartridge contacts & video colour issues
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+2019-08-13 01:03:23 npa zoom zoom
+2019-08-13 01:41:32 clarjon1 zooom
+2019-08-13 01:41:42 clarjon1 TechEmporium; nice work
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+2019-08-13 02:31:43 den2 hi
+2019-08-13 02:38:35 npa nice domain, yo
+2019-08-13 02:46:11 jesopo hi
+2019-08-13 02:46:43 npa hey jespopo
+2019-08-13 03:34:31 den1 registrations will be available soon
+2019-08-13 03:34:44 den1 i recommend you to give a luck :)
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+2019-08-13 04:08:08 severak plop
+2019-08-13 04:08:42 southerntofu plop
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+2019-08-13 07:50:07 npa > 11:49:59 up 339 days, 5:18, 0 users, load average: 0.13, 0.04, 0.01
+2019-08-13 07:50:27 npa i think i might keep the server online for one more month, evern though i just migrated everything off it
+2019-08-13 07:50:33 npa i _need_ to get to 1 year
+2019-08-13 08:06:17 sarmonsiill Yay, signed up for a new job today! :)
+2019-08-13 08:07:11 sarmonsiill Had a hard time with the company I own. Sales were slow etc so we decided to close it down. Got contacted last week, went to meet them and got a job offer almost instantly :)
+2019-08-13 08:07:35 sarmonsiill Glad to go back from running a company (doing sales, project management, etc) to developing full-time
+2019-08-13 08:07:57 npa hooray! congrats
+2019-08-13 08:08:55 sarmonsiill Thanks :)
+2019-08-13 08:17:30 krowbar hoi internet
+2019-08-13 08:18:55 krowbar today is starting out awful. :< I found out second-hard that a colleague I really enjoy working with is leaving the company. This sucks. I need to go have a minute
+2019-08-13 08:19:07 krowbar and maybe talk to him later
+2019-08-13 08:20:05 ~ubergeek sarmonsiill: congrats :)
+2019-08-13 08:20:16 ~ubergeek RUnning a business isn't for everyone. I know firsthand :)
+2019-08-13 08:20:40 ~ubergeek krowbar: that sucks, sorry to hear. If anything, it might lead to a new job for you, though :P
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+2019-08-13 08:23:57 krowbar ubergeek: thanks... it still feels like garbo. especially since we had been talking about long-term projects last week. it sorta feels like the last time i got fired
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+2019-08-13 08:30:29 ~ubergeek :(
+2019-08-13 08:56:05 zeth Gotta admire those who have the balls to start out their own company and actually make it through the initial 10 years
+2019-08-13 09:07:56 ~ubergeek ^^^
+2019-08-13 09:08:04 ~ubergeek Or at least make it to an IPO
+2019-08-13 09:10:57 zeth Not to mention those insane enough to go into a debt
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+2019-08-13 09:21:15 echelon my wife is halfway to 10
+2019-08-13 09:21:21 echelon i'm impressed indeed
+2019-08-13 09:21:23 jesopo she's 5?
+2019-08-13 09:21:32 jesopo sounds illegal
+2019-08-13 09:21:33 echelon halfway to 10 yrs open
+2019-08-13 09:21:35 echelon derp
+2019-08-13 09:21:39 jesopo ;)
+2019-08-13 09:29:13 ~ben goob mornign
+2019-08-13 09:30:54 demure *flop*
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+2019-08-13 09:35:51 ~ben wassup d3mur3
+2019-08-13 09:39:30 * praetor waves
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+2019-08-13 09:41:03 jesopo b3n!!
+2019-08-13 09:41:07 jesopo friend!
+2019-08-13 09:41:19 krowbar fri3nd
+2019-08-13 09:41:42 ~ben j3s0p0!!
+2019-08-13 09:41:49 ~ben kr0wb4r!
+2019-08-13 09:41:51 krowbar are we returning to l337-speak? is that cool again?
+2019-08-13 09:41:58 ~ben was it ever not cool? ;)
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+2019-08-13 09:44:01 ~ben ok javascript
+2019-08-13 09:44:04 ~ben go drunk you're home
+2019-08-13 09:44:06 ~ben ('b' + 'a' + + 'a' + 'a').toLowerCase()
+2019-08-13 09:44:12 ~ben => "banana"
+2019-08-13 09:45:57 severak wtf javascript? :-O
+2019-08-13 09:46:08 zeth wat?
+2019-08-13 09:46:12 zeth EXACTLY!
+2019-08-13 09:47:07 severak 'a' + + 'a' -> aNaN
+2019-08-13 09:47:10 severak as expected
+2019-08-13 09:47:40 severak lol, trick is the toLowerCase
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+2019-08-13 09:50:36 ~ben classic js
+2019-08-13 09:50:52 ~ben string math
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+2019-08-13 10:02:04 krowbar have you seen the "javascript wat?" talk?
+2019-08-13 10:02:34 krowbar it's old but https://www.destroyallsoftware.com/talks/wat
+2019-08-13 10:03:44 BitBot [Title] Wat - https://ttm.sh/nv
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+2019-08-13 10:06:30 ~ben oh yeah i think i've seen that
+2019-08-13 10:06:32 ~ben welcome back BitBot
+2019-08-13 10:06:34 ~ben ,w
+2019-08-13 10:06:35 BitBot [Weather|ben] (Traverse City, Michigan, USA) 20C/68F | Scattered Clouds | Humidity: 56% | Wind: 5.4KMh/3.4MPh
+2019-08-13 10:09:09 ~ben https://lobste.rs/s/nf3xgg/i_am_leaving_llvm#c_01mpwm
+2019-08-13 10:09:11 ~ben yeouch
+2019-08-13 10:09:13 ~ben suckmore
+2019-08-13 10:09:13 BitBot [Title] I am leaving LLVM | Lobsters - https://ttm.sh/nN
+2019-08-13 10:14:47 krowbar ben: whew! that's a real sticky bit... and an example of how "politics" means more than just who you vote for
+2019-08-13 10:16:07 ~ubergeek sounds edgy
+2019-08-13 10:16:37 ~ubergeek Whatever happened to "just leaving", but instead posting long rants about why you're leaving a community?
+2019-08-13 10:17:01 koenig Well, in Chris's case, he was the person who started LLVM of course.
+2019-08-13 10:17:04 ~ubergeek I'm pretty sure if I decided to leave the tildeverse, I wouldn't post a giant rant on the tildeverse mailing list, listing all of the things I hate about it
+2019-08-13 10:17:05 krowbar what happened to "spening more time with my family"
+2019-08-13 10:17:15 mhj ,w
+2019-08-13 10:17:16 BitBot [Weather|mhj] (Pine Island Ridge, US) 30C/87F | Light Rain | Humidity: 66% | Wind: 11.2KMh/6.9MPh
+2019-08-13 10:17:27 ~ubergeek I mean, I would just stop using tilde servers....
+2019-08-13 10:17:45 koenig If Chris Lattner had just disappeared from LLVM people would have wondered WTF, though.
+2019-08-13 10:18:00 ~ubergeek so?
+2019-08-13 10:18:15 ~ubergeek I'm sure people would think the same if I just left the tildeverse
+2019-08-13 10:18:28 ~ubergeek much better than throwing shit all over the place on my way out
+2019-08-13 10:18:40 * koenig shrugs.
+2019-08-13 10:19:02 ~ben suckless sucks
+2019-08-13 10:19:05 koenig I didn't see too much wrong with his departure note. It at least told people what was happening and that things were okay.
+2019-08-13 10:19:36 krowbar it's not like they salted the earth on the way out
+2019-08-13 10:19:41 ~ubergeek The whole problem with "Quitting the internet forever" screeds is they always cause drama on the way out
+2019-08-13 10:20:03 krowbar i'm reading the thing now... it is a year old
+2019-08-13 10:20:15 ~ubergeek If you don't like a community, or if it just doesn't suit you anymore, send a couple of farewell emails privately, and call it a day
+2019-08-13 10:20:47 ~ben there was another suckless page posted to lobste.rs today and those comments from FRIGN were brought up again
+2019-08-13 10:22:45 ~ubergeek exactly.
+2019-08-13 10:26:21 ~ubergeek I guess I'm just getting to old to enjoy dramafests :P
+2019-08-13 10:34:11 krowbar my hot take is that modern society has become more polarized on opinions, beliefs, and morals. you must either "love" me or "hate" me, be a "friend" or "enemy", fully support and endorse me or be trying to destroy me. the word "tolerance" gets thrown around a lot when what people instead want is full-throated support and not just a passive allowance of co-existance. some people take stances of
+2019-08-13 10:34:13 krowbar "either you believe 100% of what I believe or I label you as 'evil'" and it scares me a little bit
+2019-08-13 10:36:26 ~ubergeek I think the problem roots deeper than that, personally.
+2019-08-13 10:36:41 ~ubergeek Down to people don't want to take responsibility for their own situation, 90% of the time.
+2019-08-13 10:36:53 krowbar i think we (as an aggregate society) are less willing to forgive, forget, or extend grace, even in cases where people repent and seak restoration. we tell ourselves that we are more socially advanced, but we still form "tribes" looking for belonging, and defining who is "in" and who is "out"
+2019-08-13 10:36:55 ~ubergeek And the 10% of the time they do? They had nothing to do with it.
+2019-08-13 10:37:54 krowbar how do we acknowledge and address that deeper issue, though?
+2019-08-13 10:38:09 TechEmporium Thanks, clarjon1
+2019-08-13 10:38:12 TechEmporium And morning, everyone
+2019-08-13 10:38:41 mhj yo TechEmporium
+2019-08-13 10:38:43 ~ubergeek krowbar: by 2x4 :P
+2019-08-13 10:39:03 ~ubergeek that was in jest. honestly, I don't know
+2019-08-13 10:39:15 severak krowbar: these are interesting points
+2019-08-13 10:39:26 ~ubergeek I'm still trying to get people to give a shit about their own neighborhood, rather than shuffling blame to a third party
+2019-08-13 10:39:35 krowbar yeah, but even joking about using violence to address civil, moral, and philosophical problems isn't very helpful
+2019-08-13 10:39:44 ~ubergeek all while they complain about how they are their own island, and don't need help
+2019-08-13 10:39:52 severak I think that this polarisation is work of media, both social and traditional.
+2019-08-13 10:40:05 ~ubergeek Polarisation is insitutional
+2019-08-13 10:40:18 krowbar severak: while that is true, the media does this because they know it draws eyeballs. people *want* to see that stuff
+2019-08-13 10:40:21 ~ubergeek Look at religion, which requires polarisation
+2019-08-13 10:40:40 krowbar ubergeek: i disagree with you on that
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+2019-08-13 10:40:59 ~ubergeek "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No man cometh unto the father, except through me."
+2019-08-13 10:41:13 ~ubergeek That was written like, 2000 years ago or so
+2019-08-13 10:41:15 * severak being agnostic always forgot religion
+2019-08-13 10:42:02 krowbar ubergeek: maybe we are coming from a different understanding of what makes something "polarizing". i'm interested to hear what you think
+2019-08-13 10:42:29 krowbar although, i suppose i grant you that statements like that *are* polarizing (if i'm honest with myself)
+2019-08-13 10:42:33 ~ubergeek Polarizing is a "us or them, 100%" mentality. You are either right, or wrong, ignoring grayscale
+2019-08-13 10:43:04 ~ubergeek Tribalism, if you will
+2019-08-13 10:43:18 tiwesdaeg go team go
+2019-08-13 10:43:30 ~ubergeek Our tribes (In the US) just happen to be Conservative v Liberal
+2019-08-13 10:43:32 ~ubergeek Red V BLue
+2019-08-13 10:44:17 severak even vegan vs kebab eater :D
+2019-08-13 10:44:42 ~ubergeek ^^^
+2019-08-13 10:44:46 southerntofu and still these tribes happen to be two colors of the same capitalist tribe :P
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+2019-08-13 10:44:57 ~ubergeek let's not go there, though. That discussion is worse than politics :P
+2019-08-13 10:45:05 den hi! :)
+2019-08-13 10:45:19 ~ubergeek It's like the Abrahamic religions all arguing over whose god is the right one :P
+2019-08-13 10:45:52 ~ubergeek morning den
+2019-08-13 10:45:56 krowbar but regardless of if you are "in" my team or "out" of my religious team, my Christian beliefs also inform and impact my beliefs of treating other people with equity, value, and human decency
+2019-08-13 10:46:01 krowbar and, yeah, hi den!
+2019-08-13 10:46:05 den afternoon actually ubergeek :)
+2019-08-13 10:46:37 den do we still talking about the topic which talked yesterday?
+2019-08-13 10:46:43 ~ubergeek yeah, I could go down the rabbit hole of that one, krowbar, but neither the time nor place
+2019-08-13 10:46:44 den at #meta ofc
+2019-08-13 10:46:55 ~ubergeek sure, why not
+2019-08-13 10:46:55 krowbar yup, probably right
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+2019-08-13 10:48:16 southerntofu so goes with my anti-authoritarian practice, krowbar; that's why anarchists and religious people cohabitate peacefully in many places :)
+2019-08-13 10:49:10 krowbar southerntofu: possibly, but i don't have any experience or information on that
+2019-08-13 10:49:14 southerntofu anyway how are you fine people?
+2019-08-13 10:49:26 threv uh
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+2019-08-13 10:50:04 threv what the heck did i do to my foot yesterday eveniung
+2019-08-13 10:50:07 threv it hurts like hades
+2019-08-13 10:50:25 ~ubergeek step down a stair wrong?
+2019-08-13 10:50:38 ~ubergeek I guess if you could answer that, you wouldn't be asking here, though
+2019-08-13 10:50:39 threv i must have banged the top of it
+2019-08-13 10:50:40 threv yeah haha
+2019-08-13 10:50:43 threv rhetorical
+2019-08-13 10:50:48 threv i imagine it happened when i was fixin' burgers
+2019-08-13 10:51:36 krowbar were they broken?
+2019-08-13 10:51:49 threv the burgers?
+2019-08-13 10:52:04 threv they were delicious
+2019-08-13 10:52:07 * krowbar "ba-dum tish!"s
+2019-08-13 10:52:22 threv hehe
+2019-08-13 10:52:26 threv ohhhh jfc
+2019-08-13 10:52:30 threv now i get it aahahahahahaha
+2019-08-13 10:53:00 den are there any good postfix and dovecot quickstart guides
+2019-08-13 10:53:08 den or just installation guides
+2019-08-13 10:53:11 den and setup ofc
+2019-08-13 10:53:26 threv i think digitalocean has some good guides
+2019-08-13 10:53:28 threv there's also uhhhhh
+2019-08-13 10:53:55 threv https://hub.docker.com/r/tvial/docker-mailserver/
+2019-08-13 10:53:56 BitBot [Title] Docker Hub - https://ttm.sh/ng
+2019-08-13 10:54:09 den i dont need to use mysql i guess
+2019-08-13 10:54:13 threv also den https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-configure-a-mail-server-using-postfix-dovecot-mysql-and-spamassassin
+2019-08-13 10:54:15 BitBot [Title] How To Configure a Mail Server Using Postfix, Dovecot, MySQL, and SpamAssassin | DigitalOcean - https://ttm.sh/nf
+2019-08-13 10:54:20 den because it will be local for users
+2019-08-13 10:54:27 southerntofu https://debian-handbook.info/ ?
+2019-08-13 10:54:29 threv https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-and-configure-postfix-on-ubuntu-16-04
+2019-08-13 10:54:31 BitBot [Title] The Debian Administrator's Handbook - https://ttm.sh/na
+2019-08-13 10:54:33 BitBot [Title] How To Install and Configure Postfix on Ubuntu 16.04 | DigitalOcean - https://ttm.sh/nO
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+2019-08-13 11:16:28 krowbar so i started reading bits from this yesterday https://pagedout.institute/ there were some real good single-page articles and papers
+2019-08-13 11:16:29 BitBot [Title] Paged Out! - https://ttm.sh/nm
+2019-08-13 11:22:06 ~tomasino love the concept
+2019-08-13 11:22:11 ~tomasino bookmarking
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+2019-08-13 11:29:54 krowbar yeah, it feels like the 'zine thing
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+2019-08-13 11:36:01 amcclure morning tilde
+2019-08-13 11:36:01 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-13 11:36:03 amcclure ,bef
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+2019-08-13 11:49:58 tiwesdaeg den: 1. Grab some gasoline. 2. Dump it on your server. 3. Light it on fire and enjoy.
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+2019-08-13 11:50:17 tiwesdaeg crap
+2019-08-13 11:50:26 tiwesdaeg I forgot to scroll down
+2019-08-13 11:50:42 krowbar tiwesdaeg: that was basically my experience trying to configure Postfix and Dovecot
+2019-08-13 11:51:25 krowbar although i think i was _almost_ there. i was behind my ISP's NAT so they were probably blocking all my outbound attempts from that server
+2019-08-13 11:51:46 krowbar but i gave it a fair shake
+2019-08-13 11:52:06 * praetor waves
+2019-08-13 11:52:16 southerntofu yeah, these software's configuration files could really use some more admin-friendly abstractions :)
+2019-08-13 11:52:29 tiwesdaeg I hate setting up email
+2019-08-13 11:52:40 tiwesdaeg I wish there were a nice clean simple solution
+2019-08-13 11:52:45 southerntofu i mean given the mail and DNS protocol are centered around the whole secondary/relay concept, why is it not anchored in the config language?
+2019-08-13 11:52:46 ~ubergeek emailinabox
+2019-08-13 11:52:48 zeth there is muttwizzard
+2019-08-13 11:52:49 tiwesdaeg everything is so convoluted
+2019-08-13 11:52:53 ~ubergeek zimbra
+2019-08-13 11:53:20 krowbar at a certain point you have to accept that "hard things are hard"
+2019-08-13 11:53:26 ~ubergeek ^^^
+2019-08-13 11:53:28 tiwesdaeg I know
+2019-08-13 11:53:53 southerntofu krowbar: mail is not hard, and making better abstractions is what programming is about anyway :P
+2019-08-13 11:53:56 krowbar at work, i'm always looking for more "elegant" ways to express business logic in my code but sometimes it just doesn't fit
+2019-08-13 11:53:57 ~ubergeek dockerfile for it: https://github.com/Codegyre/DockerPostfixDovecot
+2019-08-13 11:53:58 BitBot [Title] GitHub - Codegyre/DockerPostfixDovecot: Simple email server executed in Docker container - https://ttm.sh/nM
+2019-08-13 11:54:11 krowbar ja, that's why i say "sometimes"
+2019-08-13 11:54:15 ~ubergeek So, there's a few "easy" ways to deploy an email server
+2019-08-13 11:54:17 krowbar well, i _meant_ that
+2019-08-13 11:54:33 krowbar "pay somebody else" is an easy way
+2019-08-13 11:55:19 ~ubergeek And someone abstracted the whole installation for you: https://workaround.org/ispmail/jessie/ansible
+2019-08-13 11:55:24 BitBot [Title] Deploying a mail server with Ansible – workaround.org - https://ttm.sh/nX
+2019-08-13 11:55:43 ~ubergeek The problem with abstracting something like email is you lose site of the multiple moving pieces, when there is a problem
+2019-08-13 11:56:06 southerntofu ubergeek: there's plenty of those but that doesn't address the problem that config files for most servers are terrible
+2019-08-13 11:56:32 ~ubergeek The "config" for the mail server is a single, yaml file, which is about as simple as it can get
+2019-08-13 11:56:45 southerntofu nah i meant the upstream config file
+2019-08-13 11:56:48 southerntofu like the actual daemon's config
+2019-08-13 11:56:54 ~ubergeek And text files are easy to manage, once you know what you're doing
+2019-08-13 11:57:08 krowbar getting to that point takes time
+2019-08-13 11:57:15 ~ubergeek And, in reality, if you don't know what you're doing, you probably shouldn't be hosting your own mail
+2019-08-13 11:57:28 southerntofu krowbar: email & DNS have had about 30 years time by now :)
+2019-08-13 11:57:49 krowbar yeah, but "getting to the point where you know what you're doing" takes time
+2019-08-13 11:57:55 southerntofu also ubergeek abstractions don't have to hide away the details, just remove the cruft by using sane defaults while leaving customization intact
+2019-08-13 11:58:04 ~ubergeek Because once you try doing your own email, and not knowing what you're doing, you're making the internet less safe
+2019-08-13 11:58:05 southerntofu fair enough :)
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+2019-08-13 11:58:20 ~ubergeek southerntofu: that's exactly what the ansible playbook does
+2019-08-13 11:58:25 krowbar best to trust the techno-priesthood
+2019-08-13 11:58:51 ~ubergeek in some cases. Some things can be democratized, every person owning their own service.
+2019-08-13 11:58:59 ~ubergeek ie, social media, for example.
+2019-08-13 11:59:09 southerntofu ubergeek: yes i know i'm just ranting about how every software config should work like that :P
+2019-08-13 11:59:26 ~ubergeek complex software needs complex config
+2019-08-13 11:59:31 krowbar https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDbyYGrswtg
+2019-08-13 11:59:32 BitBot [Youtube] Moss Introduces Jen To The Internet | The IT Crowd Series 3 Episode 4: The Internet (03:01) uploaded by The IT Crowd, 3,231,682 views (15417↑↓458) https://youtu.be/iDbyYGrswtg
+2019-08-13 11:59:43 ~ubergeek lololol
+2019-08-13 11:59:45 ~ubergeek I remember that episode
+2019-08-13 11:59:57 southerntofu "This, Jen, is the Internet" :D
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+2019-08-13 12:02:49 krowbar "Wait... 'the elders of the internet'... know who I am?!"
+2019-08-13 12:12:13 TechEmporium krowbar: as they sit on their comfy office chairs, sipping on their prune juice bottles & wagging their canes in the direction of their old CRT monitors, they see your valuable contributions
+2019-08-13 12:12:22 TechEmporium jk
+2019-08-13 12:12:43 TechEmporium I don't know where the fuck I was going with that one lol
+2019-08-13 12:12:51 krowbar sounded good
+2019-08-13 12:13:11 TechEmporium But all I know is that I ordered a new replacement cartridge slot for the Sega Genesis
+2019-08-13 12:13:11 krowbar although you could have been talking about Super Smash Melee players
+2019-08-13 12:13:21 TechEmporium That too lol
+2019-08-13 12:13:22 krowbar ooooOOoooHhh!
+2019-08-13 12:13:39 TechEmporium Last night, I managed to get the bastard working lol
+2019-08-13 12:14:18 TechEmporium Initially, the console powered on, but wouldn't boot. I thought it was video RAM & the bus arbiter chips... Until I decided to bend a couple of the pins on the cartridge slot
+2019-08-13 12:14:43 TechEmporium Then it started working, but if I jiggle the Sonic 1 game in the slot, it'd disconnect & give me a System Emulation error
+2019-08-13 12:15:37 TechEmporium And that's also when I found out my Commodore 1701 CRT has a failing S-Video chrominance circuit
+2019-08-13 12:16:11 TechEmporium Meaning not only do I have to replace the Genesis cartridge slot, but I now also have to reflow the AV input board inside my CRT
+2019-08-13 12:20:38 truth hello meta
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+2019-08-13 12:29:24 ~tomasino hola
+2019-08-13 12:30:35 den hi
+2019-08-13 12:32:27 TechEmporium Hey
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+2019-08-13 12:37:52 den hi
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+2019-08-13 12:48:31 krowbar TechEmporium: yeah, yeah... i recognize some of those words
+2019-08-13 12:48:42 TechEmporium lol
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+2019-08-13 12:58:50 BitBot [RSS] tilde news: Newest Stories: URGENT/11 Vulnerability affects over 2 BILLION IoT devices by southerntofu@users.tilde.news (southerntofu) - https://armis.com/urgent11/
+2019-08-13 13:00:23 den WUBBALUBADUBDUB!
+2019-08-13 13:00:25 den lol
+2019-08-13 13:02:27 --> younix (webchat user) (lounge-user@199-7-157-31.eng.wind.ca) has joined #meta
+2019-08-13 13:03:30 den cmccabe: if you want to you can register to ~best as a early user :)
+2019-08-13 13:03:53 den if you want, just send a email at root at tilde dot best
+2019-08-13 13:04:22 den or anyone can register
+2019-08-13 13:04:39 den but i didn't setup some features like dkim and spf will work on these today or tomorrow
+2019-08-13 13:11:14 ~tomasino hey den, what's best gonna run on, and is there a theme to it or is it a general purpose tilde?
+2019-08-13 13:11:32 southerntofu den: just keep making your server better and more interesting and people will join spontanously :)
+2019-08-13 13:11:42 southerntofu hey tomasino
+2019-08-13 13:15:58 den no themes :)
+2019-08-13 13:16:07 den for now ofc
+2019-08-13 13:16:21 den but ~best will have some interesting features in the future
+2019-08-13 13:16:43 younix Like ads? :D
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+2019-08-13 13:21:03 den lol
+2019-08-13 13:21:09 den server is cheap
+2019-08-13 13:21:14 den and i can afford it for now
+2019-08-13 13:21:18 den glad found it
+2019-08-13 13:24:05 den https://tilde.best/~ben/ our first user :)) except me
+2019-08-13 13:24:06 BitBot [Title] ~best - https://ttm.sh/ny
+2019-08-13 13:24:13 den subdomains soon
+2019-08-13 13:24:20 den after wildcard ssl i mean
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+2019-08-13 13:26:20 den ~
+2019-08-13 13:26:25 den !toot ~
+2019-08-13 13:26:31 tooter tooted! https://tilde.zone/@tildeverse/102610841857731939
+2019-08-13 13:28:21 younix I love the @tildeverse profile pic
+2019-08-13 13:29:20 ~ben aewens: made it :)
+2019-08-13 13:30:14 --> l4p1n [l4p1n] (realname) (~l4p1n@104.44.104.92.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch) has joined #meta
+2019-08-13 13:30:41 ~ben hey l4p1n !!
+2019-08-13 13:30:45 l4p1n hey
+2019-08-13 13:30:49 ~ben long time no see
+2019-08-13 13:30:53 ~ben how've ya been? :)
+2019-08-13 13:31:12 l4p1n been well. I finished my internship and successfully passed my year
+2019-08-13 13:31:26 ~ben wahoo!!
+2019-08-13 13:31:31 ~ubergeek woo1
+2019-08-13 13:31:33 southerntofu congrats
+2019-08-13 13:31:34 ~ben gratz!
+2019-08-13 13:31:36 ~ubergeek *woot!
+2019-08-13 13:31:52 ~ben university now?
+2019-08-13 13:31:59 l4p1n gonna install a something on my new infra of containers and proxmox that von has talked about in his latest blog post :) But first, setting up database backuos
+2019-08-13 13:32:20 l4p1n ben HES, Haute Ecole Spécialisée or Specialized High School
+2019-08-13 13:32:47 ~ben nice!
+2019-08-13 13:34:40 ~ben what's von's blog url?
+2019-08-13 13:34:46 ~ben i've been using proxmox lately
+2019-08-13 13:34:58 younix Swiss specialized school sounds sweet
+2019-08-13 13:35:07 * ben <3 ch
+2019-08-13 13:35:30 * den <3 ch
+2019-08-13 13:35:36 younix I've never been, but it looks lovely
+2019-08-13 13:35:57 den you should :D
+2019-08-13 13:36:04 ~ben i did a semester of my undergrad studies in winterthur
+2019-08-13 13:36:14 l4p1n ben https://von.zone
+2019-08-13 13:36:14 BitBot [Title] Von.Zone | blog de l'internet - https://von.zone
+2019-08-13 13:36:22 ~ben awesome domain :3
+2019-08-13 13:36:25 threv proxmox rules
+2019-08-13 13:36:39 ~ben i should probably upgrade my dedi to proxmox6
+2019-08-13 13:36:58 l4p1n threv and i figured out how i could backups things without breaking my head too much
+2019-08-13 13:37:12 threv nice!
+2019-08-13 13:37:55 younix Is anyone here a nixos fan?
+2019-08-13 13:38:31 ~ben i'm not seeing the proxmox post (maybe my french is just bad)
+2019-08-13 13:38:37 ~ben what's the backups strategy?
+2019-08-13 13:39:02 southerntofu younix: i've never tried yet but i'm really really interested
+2019-08-13 13:39:19 southerntofu (although to be honest i'm more interested in Guix which is a nix reimplementation on Lisp)
+2019-08-13 13:39:40 l4p1n ben it's not the proxmox post, it's about a post he has done on IRC
+2019-08-13 13:39:45 l4p1n s/on/about
+2019-08-13 13:39:47 timemachine ben it's not the proxmox post, it's about a post he has daboute on IRC
+2019-08-13 13:39:48 ~ben ooo
+2019-08-13 13:39:56 l4p1n timemachine you tried
+2019-08-13 13:40:32 l4p1n and i watched a talk about ssh this afternoon. powerful stuff
+2019-08-13 13:40:32 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-13 13:40:35 ~ben ,bef
+2019-08-13 13:40:36 threv southerntofu: in what way
+2019-08-13 13:40:36 BitBot [Ducks] ben befriended a duck in 3.68 seconds! You've befriended 124 ducks in #meta!
+2019-08-13 13:40:36 southerntofu ,ef
+2019-08-13 13:40:36 BitBot southerntofu: Unknown command. Did you mean ,bef?
+2019-08-13 13:40:40 ~ben ssh is awesome
+2019-08-13 13:40:42 threv guix is a package manager
+2019-08-13 13:40:55 threv as well as a distro, but the distro is basically built around the package manager
+2019-08-13 13:41:01 southerntofu threv: not just that but yes
+2019-08-13 13:41:13 southerntofu have you checked out guix deploy?
+2019-08-13 13:41:20 threv yeah
+2019-08-13 13:41:27 threv i wouldn't really call it "a nix reimplementation in lisp" though
+2019-08-13 13:41:41 threv it's still running the linux kernel and gnu userspace, it's not all rewritten in lisp :)
+2019-08-13 13:41:45 southerntofu sure it's not identical but from what i could read it seemed to share a lot of narratives?
+2019-08-13 13:41:51 threv eh
+2019-08-13 13:41:52 southerntofu oh yes sure
+2019-08-13 13:41:53 younix southerntofu: guix is in lisp? that's interesting! doesn't guix predate nix?
+2019-08-13 13:42:02 threv guix isn't "in lisp", per se
+2019-08-13 13:42:09 threv it's the 'official' GNU/Linux distribution
+2019-08-13 13:42:16 threv GNU "GNU/Linux" distribution
+2019-08-13 13:42:45 ~ben oh this one https://von.zone/hier-cest-toujours-aussi-bien/
+2019-08-13 13:42:45 southerntofu i see what you mean, but i'm more interested in the "reprocible/scriptable deployment" part than about what language it's actually implemented in
+2019-08-13 13:42:47 BitBot [Title] Hier c'est, toujours aussi bien - https://ttm.sh/n6
+2019-08-13 13:42:47 ~ben cool
+2019-08-13 13:43:21 southerntofu i'm just happy some people are at least trying this approach using a DSL and not always reinventing a new language (and new syntax) :)
+2019-08-13 13:43:47 threv having a declarative way to manage a system is a good thing, s'why i really like ansible
+2019-08-13 13:43:50 southerntofu (i would be happier if this language wasn't Lisp AFAIK :P)
+2019-08-13 13:44:06 southerntofu i love ansible, too
+2019-08-13 13:44:08 threv isn't it in GUILE?
+2019-08-13 13:44:11 southerntofu but it's not a programming language :(
+2019-08-13 13:44:11 threv or am i way off there
+2019-08-13 13:44:13 southerntofu yes
+2019-08-13 13:44:16 threv *nod*
+2019-08-13 13:44:30 threv yeah that's true, i'm just saying a declarative method of system administration is dope
+2019-08-13 13:44:36 southerntofu yeah we agree :D
+2019-08-13 13:44:40 threv "i want the system to look like this. do the work necessary now pls!"
+2019-08-13 13:44:41 threv ya
+2019-08-13 13:44:48 southerntofu younix: i think nix predates guix
+2019-08-13 13:45:04 threv like, "*nix"?
+2019-08-13 13:45:09 threv fiadsj ohhhh "nixos"
+2019-08-13 13:45:10 threv derrrrp
+2019-08-13 13:45:13 * threv smrt
+2019-08-13 13:45:27 southerntofu threv: what's really thrilling about it is writing low-level abstractions for sysadmins (like webhosting panels like cpanel/ispconfig/alternc do) that we can implement TUI/CLI/GUI on top of!
+2019-08-13 13:46:01 southerntofu at least that's what's thrilling me lately :D
+2019-08-13 13:46:09 younix The kind of thrill only a Unix beard can appreciate
+2019-08-13 13:46:34 krowbar my beard hums in anticipation
+2019-08-13 13:46:41 younix Lol
+2019-08-13 13:46:57 * southerntofu laughs at their soft facial skin.
+2019-08-13 13:46:58 krowbar that is one thing i've disapointed myself in; i can't seem to grow a nice nice beard
+2019-08-13 13:47:21 ~ben practice practice practice
+2019-08-13 13:47:32 ~ben my dad can grow a beard by noon
+2019-08-13 13:47:36 ~ben i need to step up my game
+2019-08-13 13:47:36 younix Get some crispr hair gene splicing cream
+2019-08-13 13:47:52 krowbar get some face rogaine
+2019-08-13 13:47:59 younix Grows thick manly hair anywhere
+2019-08-13 13:48:06 krowbar :wink:
+2019-08-13 13:48:15 den w
+2019-08-13 13:48:15 younix Rogaine is some 20th century garbage
+2019-08-13 13:48:16 threv i wish rogaine regrew a real big bald spot
+2019-08-13 13:48:17 ~ben > face rogaine
+2019-08-13 13:48:18 threv yeah
+2019-08-13 13:48:30 younix Go for gene technology
+2019-08-13 13:48:33 threv i wish _anything_ regrew a massive bald spot
+2019-08-13 13:48:39 threv i just shave my head and wear a hat
+2019-08-13 13:48:42 ~ben but the upside of slow-growing face hair is that you don't have to trim/shave often
+2019-08-13 13:48:51 krowbar there was one thing i saw "as seen on TV" that was basically spray-can-cheese hair
+2019-08-13 13:48:57 threv hoo boy my face hair grows _fast_
+2019-08-13 13:49:04 southerntofu ben: do you have to trim at all?
+2019-08-13 13:49:05 threv krowbar: if you're baldING
+2019-08-13 13:49:07 threv it works _great
+2019-08-13 13:49:12 threv if you're _already bald_, nope
+2019-08-13 13:49:19 krowbar yeah, seems like
+2019-08-13 13:49:20 younix Lol, foam insulation/hair in a can
+2019-08-13 13:49:20 ~ben oh yeah usually once a week
+2019-08-13 13:49:30 threv it works well
+2019-08-13 13:50:04 younix Is rogaine the one there's basically estrogen?
+2019-08-13 13:50:11 younix *that's
+2019-08-13 13:50:13 krowbar i wish people had more confidence in the beautiful person that they are and that society would not judge/dispise people based on first-impression looks
+2019-08-13 13:50:35 krowbar younix: waoh, really? i don't know. never looked into any of that stuffs
+2019-08-13 13:50:36 southerntofu krowbar: who cares about society when you're got comrades? :)
+2019-08-13 13:50:40 ~tomasino hey southerntofu
+2019-08-13 13:50:47 krowbar Komrades
+2019-08-13 13:50:49 ~tomasino sorry, things got delivered just as i wrote my last message
+2019-08-13 13:50:58 younix krowbar: That sounds like a beautiful dream
+2019-08-13 13:51:30 krowbar "imagine all the people... spraying CheezWiz haaiiir~"
+2019-08-13 13:51:47 ~ben you should !toot that
+2019-08-13 13:51:50 ~ben lol
+2019-08-13 13:51:52 ~ben so great
+2019-08-13 13:52:09 krowbar !toot imagine all the people... spraying CheezWiz haaiiir~
+2019-08-13 13:52:09 tooter tooted! https://tilde.zone/@tildeverse/102610942648825465
+2019-08-13 13:52:14 younix You gotta remember, btw, that male pattern baldness could've been sexually selected for. Maybe dudes that lived long enough to lose their hair were seen as hot by stone age females
+2019-08-13 13:52:27 younix Perhaps you want to lose your hair
+2019-08-13 13:52:41 krowbar or it correlates to another feature optimized for attractiveness
+2019-08-13 13:52:59 younix It is good at showing that thicc cranium as well
+2019-08-13 13:53:13 ~ben lmao
+2019-08-13 13:53:25 younix Lots of women think Picard's dome is hot
+2019-08-13 13:53:28 krowbar oh man, my dad has bad mpb and always gets scorched in the sun
+2019-08-13 13:53:39 TechEmporium lol
+2019-08-13 13:53:47 ~ben ok but picard is pretty hot
+2019-08-13 13:53:49 southerntofu younix: do you have comparative studies of how it affects perceived hotness based on gender that accounts for cultural differences? :P
+2019-08-13 13:53:59 krowbar he's got like laugh lines on the back of his head
+2019-08-13 13:54:08 TechEmporium The stone age comment lmfao
+2019-08-13 13:54:14 younix southerntofu: nope, but I have anecdata
+2019-08-13 13:54:18 younix :D
+2019-08-13 13:54:20 ~ben patrick stewart is great
+2019-08-13 13:54:26 krowbar axiom
+2019-08-13 13:54:35 southerntofu and plural anecdata is.... data => SCIENCE. all is good thanks
+2019-08-13 13:54:42 younix Haha
+2019-08-13 13:54:44 TechEmporium ben: so's the guy who played as Merlin with him in Excalibur
+2019-08-13 13:54:47 ~ben yay science
+2019-08-13 13:54:59 ~ben TechEmporium: who now?
+2019-08-13 13:55:19 krowbar i was so confused the first time i saw the Dune movie. i was like "what the hek is captain piccard doing on Arakis?"
+2019-08-13 13:55:39 ~ben lol classic
+2019-08-13 13:55:46 ~ben such a defining role for him
+2019-08-13 13:55:58 TechEmporium Nicol Williamson played as Merlin in the movie Excalibur with Patrick Stewart as Leondegrance
+2019-08-13 13:56:00 younix Love that movie
+2019-08-13 13:56:12 younix (dune)
+2019-08-13 13:56:15 TechEmporium And Liam Neeson as Gawain
+2019-08-13 13:56:15 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-13 13:56:19 southerntofu ,bef
+2019-08-13 13:56:19 TechEmporium ,bef
+2019-08-13 13:56:20 BitBot [Ducks] southerntofu befriended a duck in 4.12 seconds! You've befriended 2 ducks in #meta!
+2019-08-13 13:56:20 BitBot [Ducks] TechEmporium: There was no duck!
+2019-08-13 13:56:23 TechEmporium Damn
+2019-08-13 13:56:34 * southerntofu quit rolling their joint to befriend the duck lol
+2019-08-13 13:56:38 southerntofu #priorities
+2019-08-13 13:57:16 younix There's a great fanedit of dune which adds back a lot of cut material, and turns it into a great 3 hour film (closer to what David lynch intended it to be)
+2019-08-13 13:57:19 ~ben awesome
+2019-08-13 13:58:23 southerntofu younix: link? :D
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+2019-08-13 13:58:56 younix https://ifdb.fanedit.org/dune-the-alternative-edition-redux/
+2019-08-13 13:58:58 BitBot [Title] Dune: The Alternative Edition Redux - Fanedit.org - IFDB - https://ttm.sh/nV
+2019-08-13 13:59:13 southerntofu otherwise there's always the dune books that add a lot of cut material and turns it into a great 3 days book :P
+2019-08-13 13:59:18 younix Available on all your favorite torrent metacrawlers
+2019-08-13 13:59:23 southerntofu yay
+2019-08-13 13:59:31 krowbar younix: where did the fans get the extra material?
+2019-08-13 14:00:03 younix Haha, yes, the books are the richest dune source
+2019-08-13 14:00:34 younix krowbar: I'm not sure, often DVD extras, but sometimes weird bootleg sources
+2019-08-13 14:01:03 krowbar ah, or, i could read your linked article
+2019-08-13 14:01:06 younix A lot of faneditors have connections to or work in the film industry
+2019-08-13 14:01:32 krowbar sounds like the StarWars UnEnhanced editions
+2019-08-13 14:02:09 younix The guy who made the "star wars: despecialized edition" used laserdiscs, original 35mm prints from the 70s, early hdtv broadcasts, etc
+2019-08-13 14:02:19 krowbar ah, yeah, that one i mean
+2019-08-13 14:03:05 younix And synthesized them with modern technology to look like a high quality modern film that captures the original feel of the 35mm version
+2019-08-13 14:03:23 krowbar that's quite the commitment to your art
+2019-08-13 14:03:34 younix Indeed :)
+2019-08-13 14:03:36 krowbar but tell me, honestly, how you feel about sand?
+2019-08-13 14:04:18 younix I don't have strong feelings towards it, unless it's in my eyes
+2019-08-13 14:05:04 younix Are you asking because if the star wars/dune focus? :)
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+2019-08-13 14:11:02 den hi there
+2019-08-13 14:11:12 den i just setup tor
+2019-08-13 14:11:22 den and now we have a onion address
+2019-08-13 14:11:29 southerntofu onionv3? :D
+2019-08-13 14:13:00 den southerntofu: not sure if website works through onion address
+2019-08-13 14:13:02 den can you try it
+2019-08-13 14:13:12 southerntofu yes if you give us the onions!!!!!
+2019-08-13 14:13:18 southerntofu :d
+2019-08-13 14:13:25 den lol
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+2019-08-13 14:13:32 * den gives onions
+2019-08-13 14:13:42 den don't remove layers of it please
+2019-08-13 14:13:42 * southerntofu eats onions. There's still plenty to share.
+2019-08-13 14:13:47 den it deanonymizes you :D
+2019-08-13 14:13:48 younix Lounge disconnects too much :(
+2019-08-13 14:13:51 krowbar younix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_60Jfwsylb8
+2019-08-13 14:13:52 BitBot [Youtube] Sand: A Star Wars Story // Songify the Movies (03:33) uploaded by schmoyoho, 553,508 views (16028↑↓323) https://youtu.be/_60Jfwsylb8
+2019-08-13 14:14:00 younix Lol
+2019-08-13 14:14:06 den younix: try ~best you wont get disconnected lol
+2019-08-13 14:14:10 southerntofu younix: why don't you irssi from a screen/tmux session on a tilde server?
+2019-08-13 14:14:15 southerntofu or weechat or whatever
+2019-08-13 14:14:25 den weechat ftw?
+2019-08-13 14:14:45 ~ben ~team has a thelounge
+2019-08-13 14:14:48 ~ben if you like that
+2019-08-13 14:15:08 den hey ben
+2019-08-13 14:15:12 ~ben ~team, yourtilde, thunix, and envs.net have a znc you can use too
+2019-08-13 14:15:32 younix southerntofu: i'd need someone to help me set that up; I'm at the cottage and all I have is a phone
+2019-08-13 14:15:38 den are there only ~ before nickname of admins which are operating a server listed on tildeverse
+2019-08-13 14:15:48 southerntofu younix: oh, phone :)
+2019-08-13 14:15:56 ~ben ya basically
+2019-08-13 14:16:05 den what about @
+2019-08-13 14:16:06 southerntofu well some f-droid.org IRC clients support some types of IRC bouncers
+2019-08-13 14:16:16 ~ben revolution irc works with znc
+2019-08-13 14:16:28 -- Mode #meta [+qo calamitous calamitous] by ChanServ
+2019-08-13 14:16:37 den can i have ~ before my nickname :D without any permissions
+2019-08-13 14:16:44 younix ben: the lounge seems to not maintain a session, or even remember your settings, and the reconnect feature doesn't work
+2019-08-13 14:16:59 ~ben it's meant to stay running all the time on a server
+2019-08-13 14:17:19 ~ben and it needs to be running in private mode
+2019-08-13 14:17:32 ~ben younix: are you using web.tilde.chat?
+2019-08-13 14:19:31 <-- younix (lounge-user@199-7-157-31.eng.wind.ca) has quit (quit: https://web.tilde.chat - thelounge)
+2019-08-13 14:19:59 --> younix (webchat user) (lounge-user@199.119.233.133) has joined #meta
+2019-08-13 14:20:16 younix Ben: yep, web.tilde.chat
+2019-08-13 14:20:50 ~ben younix: it's not in private mode so it doesn't save anything
+2019-08-13 14:21:41 younix Oh, so you can have private accounts on it?
+2019-08-13 14:21:47 ~ben not on that thelounge instance
+2019-08-13 14:21:59 ~ben that one is meant for simple short term webchat sessions
+2019-08-13 14:22:04 younix So, team has it?
+2019-08-13 14:22:09 ~ben ya it's at lounge.tilde.team
+2019-08-13 14:22:18 ~ben and it stays logged in etc
+2019-08-13 14:22:29 ~ben keeps chat logs too
+2019-08-13 14:22:33 younix Awesome!
+2019-08-13 14:22:46 ~ben aww i feel bad you've been using the webchat for this long
+2019-08-13 14:22:48 younix I will take 1 account please
+2019-08-13 14:22:59 younix No no, only for 2 days
+2019-08-13 14:23:02 ~ben ooo
+2019-08-13 14:23:08 ~ben what do you normally use?
+2019-08-13 14:23:08 younix I was using weechat before
+2019-08-13 14:23:12 ~ben ok solid
+2019-08-13 14:23:16 younix Just on my own box
+2019-08-13 14:23:23 ~ben you should set up weechat-android when you get a chance
+2019-08-13 14:23:26 ~ben it's excellent
+2019-08-13 14:23:28 younix I do
+2019-08-13 14:23:32 younix It is!
+2019-08-13 14:23:43 ~ben oh did you lose access/
+2019-08-13 14:23:45 ~ben ?
+2019-08-13 14:23:54 ~ben https://tilde.team/wiki/irc#weechat-relays
+2019-08-13 14:23:56 BitBot [Title] irc | tilde.team~wiki - https://ttm.sh/nx
+2019-08-13 14:23:57 younix Yeah, it was just a server in my house
+2019-08-13 14:23:58 ~ben i added this recently
+2019-08-13 14:24:01 ~ben ohh nice
+2019-08-13 14:24:10 younix I turned it off when I left
+2019-08-13 14:24:17 ~ben bummer
+2019-08-13 14:24:34 ~ben um ok well normally thelounge registration is done from the shell on ~team
+2019-08-13 14:24:35 younix I love all the documentation
+2019-08-13 14:24:45 younix You guys are great
+2019-08-13 14:24:54 den ben: can you share ufw configs with me?
+2019-08-13 14:25:19 younix I can use ssh in termux
+2019-08-13 14:25:21 ~ben it's not really much special
+2019-08-13 14:25:29 younix You want my ssh key?
+2019-08-13 14:25:32 ~ben younix: could you drop a key in here https://tilde.team/signup/
+2019-08-13 14:25:33 BitBot [Title] tilde.team - https://ttm.sh/n-
+2019-08-13 14:25:34 ~ben or just mail it to me
+2019-08-13 14:25:42 younix Sweet
+2019-08-13 14:26:28 den ben: can you help me about it? :)
+2019-08-13 14:26:29 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-13 14:26:31 den ,begf
+2019-08-13 14:26:31 BitBot den: Unknown command. Did you mean ,bef?
+2019-08-13 14:26:33 den ,bef
+2019-08-13 14:26:33 BitBot [Ducks] den befriended a duck in 4.32 seconds! You've befriended 1 duck in #meta!
+2019-08-13 14:26:37 den lol
+2019-08-13 14:26:43 ~ben i have default deny and then just allow the things i'm running
+2019-08-13 14:26:51 ~ben deny in
+2019-08-13 14:26:56 ~ben ufw allow mosh
+2019-08-13 14:26:59 ~ben ufw allow ssh
+2019-08-13 14:27:01 ~ben etc
+2019-08-13 14:27:14 younix Clever way to setup multiuser weechat relays!
+2019-08-13 14:27:22 den thxc
+2019-08-13 14:27:28 ~ben :')
+2019-08-13 14:27:31 younix Are the ssl certs signed?
+2019-08-13 14:27:33 den how can i make time travel lol
+2019-08-13 14:27:46 ~ben ya it uses the *.ttm.sh cert via nginx
+2019-08-13 14:27:52 younix Nice
+2019-08-13 14:28:04 ~ben i was pleased with it :3
+2019-08-13 14:28:10 ~ben not sure anyone uses it
+2019-08-13 14:28:18 younix Aww
+2019-08-13 14:28:24 ~ben i think at least one person does
+2019-08-13 14:29:05 younix Well, it's still an elegant solution
+2019-08-13 14:29:17 ~ben hehe thx
+2019-08-13 14:29:21 ~ben i was well pleased with it
+2019-08-13 14:29:25 younix No ssh tunnel garbage
+2019-08-13 14:29:29 ~ben nope
+2019-08-13 14:29:36 ~ben plus i have some rate limiting in nginx for it
+2019-08-13 14:29:43 ~ben so you can't just bruteforce it
+2019-08-13 14:29:54 younix Sweet!
+2019-08-13 14:29:55 ~ben and it should 404 if you don't have the socket set up
+2019-08-13 14:30:23 younix Weechat doesn't protect against brute forcing well?
+2019-08-13 14:30:25 ~ben i actually run my weechat on my vps and i have a similar setup
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+2019-08-13 14:30:38 ~ben not particularly well
+2019-08-13 14:30:48 younix Boourns
+2019-08-13 14:30:55 ~ben it's not terrible
+2019-08-13 14:31:10 <-- frigginglorious (~Thunderbir@87.sub-174-197-7.myvzw.com) has quit (Connection closed)
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+2019-08-13 14:31:35 younix Weechat is basically a shell, since it can /exec commands and run arbitrary plugins/scripts
+2019-08-13 14:31:54 younix It should be protected from brute forcing
+2019-08-13 14:32:26 younix Kinda silly of the authors to overlook that
+2019-08-13 14:32:30 southerntofu khuxkm: https://github.com/getzola/zola/issues/317#issuecomment-520954413
+2019-08-13 14:32:33 BitBot [Title] TOML is not very friendly for non-technical users · Issue #317 · getzola/zola · GitHub - https://ttm.sh/TD
+2019-08-13 14:33:40 younix Anyhow, thanks for your help ben, I'll set this up later; gotta go do some relaxing
+2019-08-13 14:33:47 younix Ttyl
+2019-08-13 14:33:51 ~ben np
+2019-08-13 14:33:52 southerntofu enjoy the countryside! :)
+2019-08-13 14:34:02 younix Ten four
+2019-08-13 14:34:15 ~ben ya you need to make sure you have a good password on your relay :)
+2019-08-13 14:34:22 <-- younix (lounge-user@199.119.233.133) has quit (quit: https://web.tilde.chat - thelounge)
+2019-08-13 14:37:19 den1 who likes living at 0.0.0.0
+2019-08-13 14:37:38 den1 127.0.0.1 much better i think
+2019-08-13 14:37:46 ~ben no place like 0::1
+2019-08-13 14:37:50 den1 lol
+2019-08-13 14:37:54 den1 we are neighbours
+2019-08-13 14:38:02 ~ben radiobot: slogan
+2019-08-13 14:38:02 radiobot 0::1 is where the heart is
+2019-08-13 14:38:09 ~ben lol awesome that's the one i wanted
+2019-08-13 14:38:31 den1 here is a quote for ~chat xd
+2019-08-13 14:38:35 <-- frigginglorious (~Thunderbir@71-82-154-29.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) has quit (Connection closed)
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+2019-08-13 14:38:57 den1 ben: can you add search features for quotes at ~chat
+2019-08-13 14:39:23 ~ben https://quotes.tilde.chat/quote/167
+2019-08-13 14:39:25 ~ben probably
+2019-08-13 14:39:25 BitBot [Title] ~chat IRC quote database - quote 167 - https://ttm.sh/TE
+2019-08-13 14:39:37 ~ben https://tildegit.org/tildeverse/quotes
+2019-08-13 14:39:38 BitBot [Title] tildeverse/quotes: Quote database for the tildeverse network - quotes - tildegit - https://ttm.sh/TQ
+2019-08-13 14:39:40 ~ben it's a super simple flask app
+2019-08-13 14:39:50 ~ben i'll have a look later but feel free now
+2019-08-13 14:39:53 den i can write flask
+2019-08-13 14:40:05 den maybe can contribute to it
+2019-08-13 14:40:19 den ben: upvoted it :DD
+2019-08-13 14:40:24 ~ben go for it
+2019-08-13 14:40:48 den ben: no u
+2019-08-13 14:40:50 BitBot [RSS] tilde news: Newest Stories: List of software fixed against HTTP2 DOS vulnerabilities by southerntofu@users.tilde.news (southerntofu) - https://vuls.cert.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=56393752
+2019-08-13 14:40:52 den lol
+2019-08-13 14:40:57 den that was a quote
+2019-08-13 14:41:08 southerntofu don't forget to update your webservers if you use HTTP2 :)
+2019-08-13 14:42:22 ~ben o i was looking for nginx
+2019-08-13 14:42:37 southerntofu it's at the top :)
+2019-08-13 14:42:42 ~ben oh
+2019-08-13 14:42:48 ~ben i only saw f5
+2019-08-13 14:42:55 ~ben i have 1.14.0
+2019-08-13 14:44:17 ~ben could probably just disable http2?
+2019-08-13 14:44:30 southerntofu sure but then you get to miss on some nice features
+2019-08-13 14:44:53 ~ben idk if i'm even using them lol
+2019-08-13 14:44:56 southerntofu especially Alt-Svc (HTTP header to indicate alternative protocols to reach the content, notably onions)
+2019-08-13 14:45:14 southerntofu ^^^ this allows for an onion to serve a TLS certificate for the non-onion domain
+2019-08-13 14:45:15 ~ben you can't send that on http 1.1?
+2019-08-13 14:46:01 southerntofu the spec explicitely mandates http2
+2019-08-13 14:46:08 ~ben ah
+2019-08-13 14:46:29 southerntofu the alt-svc URL is of the for h2://foobar.onion
+2019-08-13 14:47:09 southerntofu ben: see https://www.thunix.net/~southerntofu/drafts/tildeverse-tor/#wip-http-header
+2019-08-13 14:47:11 BitBot [Title] tildeverse RFCs | Tilde Tor support - https://ttm.sh/Th
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+2019-08-13 14:48:09 southerntofu sorry not h2:// h2="foobar.onion:443"
+2019-08-13 14:48:23 ~ben interesting
+2019-08-13 14:48:37 <-- frigginglorious (~Thunderbir@71-82-154-29.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds)
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+2019-08-13 14:48:50 southerntofu yes! very interesting development from the tor ecosystem that will benefit many other protocols as well :)
+2019-08-13 14:48:58 den ben: can also have ~ before my nickname? what are the requirements for it?
+2019-08-13 14:49:11 den just without permissions?
+2019-08-13 14:49:19 den not sure if it is possible, but if it is
+2019-08-13 14:49:19 ~ben generally it's for admins of official tildeverse members
+2019-08-13 14:49:22 ~ben and/or irc opers
+2019-08-13 14:49:22 southerntofu **den wants to be root**
+2019-08-13 14:49:28 den lol
+2019-08-13 14:49:31 den nope
+2019-08-13 14:49:33 den i dont
+2019-08-13 14:49:35 ~ben sounds like it
+2019-08-13 14:49:48 den just want to let people see i also have a tilde server
+2019-08-13 14:49:51 den sorry for misunderstanding
+2019-08-13 14:49:56 southerntofu "just let me get root here and there and push this button and woops down goes the server" :D
+2019-08-13 14:49:57 den but not really important
+2019-08-13 14:50:01 den it just looks cool
+2019-08-13 14:50:05 ~ben wwoops
+2019-08-13 14:50:12 southerntofu den: you're pretty cool without an @ :)
+2019-08-13 14:50:17 den :D
+2019-08-13 14:50:24 -- Mode #meta [+qo nonlinear nonlinear] by ChanServ
+2019-08-13 14:50:27 den i already have root
+2019-08-13 14:50:34 den *on my server*
+2019-08-13 14:50:46 den its enough for me :D
+2019-08-13 14:50:48 -- Mode #meta [+qo tiwesdaeg tiwesdaeg] by ChanServ
+2019-08-13 14:50:51 den i dont want to broke things
+2019-08-13 14:50:57 den umm ok :D
+2019-08-13 14:51:21 southerntofu it's rare that people **want** to break things; we just do by mistake
+2019-08-13 14:51:30 den yep
+2019-08-13 14:51:31 southerntofu which is why the least power i have the better i feel :)
+2019-08-13 14:51:39 ~ben ok now it should be all official admins
+2019-08-13 14:51:43 ~ben https://tildeverse.org/members/
+2019-08-13 14:51:44 BitBot [Title] tildeverse - https://ttm.sh/dp
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+2019-08-13 14:51:53 ~ben i'd add vilmibm but it appears he's not logged in to nickserv
+2019-08-13 14:51:56 den i hope my tilde can stay up for 6 months :DD
+2019-08-13 14:52:04 jesopo where's my godmode
+2019-08-13 14:52:12 * jesopo readies the canons
+2019-08-13 14:52:14 den /godmode on
+2019-08-13 14:52:26 ~ben /oper god mode
+2019-08-13 14:52:36 * den executed sudo rm -rf /* on ~best
+2019-08-13 14:52:41 ~ben yikes
+2019-08-13 14:52:47 den great power comes with great responsibility
+2019-08-13 14:52:51 ~ben rm: it is dangerous to operate recursively on '/'
+2019-08-13 14:52:53 ~ben rm: use --no-preserve-root to override this failsafe
+2019-08-13 14:53:01 den rm -rf --no-preserve-root /*
+2019-08-13 14:53:09 den here we go again
+2019-08-13 14:53:11 ~ben smh my head
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+2019-08-13 14:58:00 southerntofu wow it's so quiet.. i guess that's what rm -rf / will do to you :)
+2019-08-13 14:58:07 ~ben lol
+2019-08-13 14:58:15 den lol
+2019-08-13 14:58:31 den actually bootloader remains xd
+2019-08-13 14:58:48 den but its boring to live together with bootloader
+2019-08-13 14:58:51 --> TechEmporium (realname) (~TechEmpori@147-194-15-196.dsl.comwave.net) has joined #meta
+2019-08-13 14:58:52 southerntofu von: are you the person behind von.zone? i've stumbled upon articles of yours in the past, thank you for taking the time to make them :)
+2019-08-13 14:59:03 ~tomasino southerntofu: http2 isn't supported by httpd on openbsd
+2019-08-13 14:59:26 den just great :)
+2019-08-13 14:59:26 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-13 14:59:28 den ,bef
+2019-08-13 14:59:28 BitBot [Ducks] den befriended a duck in 2.03 seconds! You've befriended 2 ducks in #meta!
+2019-08-13 14:59:42 den ,enemies
+2019-08-13 14:59:42 BitBot [Ducks] Top duck enemies: npa (89), epoch (29), aewens (19), babilibot (13), amcclure (12), kj8am (7), login (5), haskal (4), kirch (3), zeth (3)
+2019-08-13 14:59:49 den ,friends
+2019-08-13 14:59:50 BitBot [Ducks] Top duck friends: ben (153), jesopo (80), ahriman (55), fosslinux (46), demure (33), ubergeek (33), mushmouth (29), praetor (28), robdrake (25), threv (25)
+2019-08-13 14:59:56 ~ben ,config c
+2019-08-13 14:59:56 BitBot [Config] Available config: key, prefixed-commands, commands, hide-prefix, command-method, command-prefix, mode-high, mode-low, relay-extras, votes-start-restricted, automode, log, ban-format, highlight-spam-ban, highlight-spam-protection, highlight-spam-threshold, check-urls-kick, check-urls, ducks-kick, ducks-min-messages, ducks-enabled, google-safesearch, greeting, auto-imgur, karma-verbose, kick-rejoin-delay (more...)
+2019-08-13 15:00:00 ~ben ,more
+2019-08-13 15:00:01 BitBot [Config] (...continued) , kick-rejoin, auto-torrelay, op-ping, sed-sender-only, sed, url-shortener, slowvoice-delay, slowvoice, strip-color, youtube-safesearch, auto-youtube, git-hide-prefix, git-hide-organisation, git-prevent-highlight, auto-github-cooldown, auto-github, github-default-repo, rss-shorten, auto-title-first, title-shorten, auto-title, auto-tweet
+2019-08-13 15:00:05 jesopo u want no pings?
+2019-08-13 15:00:07 rdh How do you shoot ducks? is it
+2019-08-13 15:00:10 rdh ,kil
+2019-08-13 15:00:11 ~ben ya no pings pls
+2019-08-13 15:00:12 rdh ,bang
+2019-08-13 15:00:12 BitBot [Echo] ,bang has been moved to ,trap
+2019-08-13 15:00:17 jesopo will have to write code for it
+2019-08-13 15:00:21 rdh ,trap
+2019-08-13 15:00:22 BitBot [Ducks] rdh: There was no duck!
+2019-08-13 15:00:22 southerntofu tomasino: yeah i can see why they haven't moved on with http2 yet :)
+2019-08-13 15:00:23 kirch Hi, I got pinged :3 makes me feel seen
+2019-08-13 15:00:23 jesopo removed for dicky os x terminals
+2019-08-13 15:00:28 ~ben kirch: <3
+2019-08-13 15:00:28 jesopo ,serverignore friends
+2019-08-13 15:00:29 BitBot [Ignore] Now ignoring 'friends' for tilde
+2019-08-13 15:00:36 jesopo ,serverignore enemies
+2019-08-13 15:00:36 ~ben osx--
+2019-08-13 15:00:36 BitBot [Ignore] Now ignoring 'enemies' for tilde
+2019-08-13 15:00:36 BitBot [Karma] osx now has -1 karma
+2019-08-13 15:00:37 ~tomasino https://github.com/reyk/httpd/issues/28
+2019-08-13 15:00:39 BitBot [Title] http/2 support planned? · Issue #28 · reyk/httpd · GitHub - https://ttm.sh/Td
+2019-08-13 15:00:40 jesopo temporary measure
+2019-08-13 15:00:42 jesopo ,friends
+2019-08-13 15:00:43 southerntofu reimplementing a whole network stack under the guise of HTTP is... frightening :)
+2019-08-13 15:00:48 den windows--
+2019-08-13 15:00:50 <-- bsd.tilde.chat has kicked BitBot (Channel flood triggered (trigger is 10 lines in 20 secs))
+2019-08-13 15:00:54 jesopo thnx
+2019-08-13 15:00:55 --> BitBot [BitBot] (BitBot) (bitbot@bitbot.dev) has joined #meta
+2019-08-13 15:00:57 krowbar ok, going to a picnic. later #meta and thanks for the conversations earlier. ;)
+2019-08-13 15:01:01 ~ben cheers :)
+2019-08-13 15:01:03 jesopo he's got kick rejoin anyway
+2019-08-13 15:01:10 southerntofu krowbar: bon appétit!
+2019-08-13 15:01:11 ~ben solid
+2019-08-13 15:01:15 ~ben bitbot big boy
+2019-08-13 15:01:17 ~ben me me big boy
+2019-08-13 15:01:31 jesopo :3
+2019-08-13 15:01:35 jesopo he's a clever lad
+2019-08-13 15:01:37 ~ben quite
+2019-08-13 15:01:39 ~ben (´・ω・`)
+2019-08-13 15:01:41 jesopo did u hear
+2019-08-13 15:01:46 ~ben uh
+2019-08-13 15:01:48 jesopo im an auntie as of 2 hrs ago
+2019-08-13 15:01:54 ~ben awww congrations!!
+2019-08-13 15:01:55 jesopo babey bjorn
+2019-08-13 15:02:00 jesopo headed to see him now
+2019-08-13 15:02:01 ~ben actually named bjorn?
+2019-08-13 15:02:08 jesopo no lol
+2019-08-13 15:02:11 southerntofu tomasino: nice, they actually started implementing it! :)
+2019-08-13 15:02:13 jesopo baby born, babey bjorn
+2019-08-13 15:02:14 ~ben lol ok just checking
+2019-08-13 15:02:18 den ben: for some reason ~team's makeuser script sends email back to root
+2019-08-13 15:02:26 den wanted email address is actually den@tilde.team
+2019-08-13 15:02:27 ~tomasino Coming soon to an httpd near you
+2019-08-13 15:02:33 southerntofu hehe
+2019-08-13 15:02:37 ~ben den: ?
+2019-08-13 15:02:46 southerntofu so soon ~black will provide onions as alternative services? :)
+2019-08-13 15:02:48 den at my own server
+2019-08-13 15:02:53 ~ben in /etc/aliases root: den
+2019-08-13 15:03:02 ~ben sudo newaliases && sudo postfix reload
+2019-08-13 15:03:02 ~tomasino I'll likely regen a onionv3 on black soon
+2019-08-13 15:03:13 ~ben you're going to want to get root's mails anyways
+2019-08-13 15:03:17 ~tomasino Black has onions already
+2019-08-13 15:03:34 ~tomasino Just not advertised in headers until http2
+2019-08-13 15:03:48 den i even dont havea onionv3 lol
+2019-08-13 15:03:50 southerntofu yes so you can't do TLS over Tor (without weird warnings)
+2019-08-13 15:04:14 den tomasino: recently i installed tor inspired from ~black
+2019-08-13 15:05:29 ~tomasino Tor already has encryption
+2019-08-13 15:05:35 ~tomasino TLS is redundant
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+2019-08-13 15:06:36 southerntofu until you have a Tor CVE
+2019-08-13 15:06:49 southerntofu i really like Tor but i understand some people feel more comfident with TLS on top :)
+2019-08-13 15:07:06 southerntofu tomasino: have you read this part of the rendez-vous spec for onionv3? https://gitweb.torproject.org/torspec.git/tree/proposals/224-rend-spec-ng.txt#n655
+2019-08-13 15:07:07 BitBot [Title] 224-rend-spec-ng.txt\proposals - torspec - Tor's protocol specifications - https://ttm.sh/T2
+2019-08-13 15:07:11 ~ben > comfident
+2019-08-13 15:07:17 ~ben what a great portmanteua
+2019-08-13 15:07:27 southerntofu lol
+2019-08-13 15:07:28 ~ben s/ua/au
+2019-08-13 15:07:28 timemachine what a great portmanteau
+2019-08-13 15:08:25 ~tomasino ;)
+2019-08-13 15:08:31 ~tomasino Haven't read it yet
+2019-08-13 15:08:33 ~tomasino Will do
+2019-08-13 15:08:51 southerntofu if my reading is correct it would allow to standardize a DDNS-like update mechanism to upload short-lived keys to your tilde server while keeping the onion's primary keys under your control
+2019-08-13 15:08:57 southerntofu (i.e. onion delegation)
+2019-08-13 15:09:08 southerntofu i would love to see something like that happening on ~black :)
+2019-08-13 15:09:51 southerntofu so i can just generate an onion on my end, have a cron upload a new subkey everyday to ~black and have it serve my onion for me (own-your-name approach to shared hosting for onion services)
+2019-08-13 15:09:53 den hey #meta, are there any others who want to try ~best?
+2019-08-13 15:09:58 den free invites :DD
+2019-08-13 15:10:34 southerntofu den: you should make less invitations here and more in other chans (on other servers) where not everyone already has an account in the tildeverse ^^
+2019-08-13 15:10:51 ~ben ya pretty much everyone here already has a shell account on at least one of the tildes
+2019-08-13 15:10:59 den not everyone as i see but yep you are right
+2019-08-13 15:11:01 den wont do that again
+2019-08-13 15:11:09 den instead, i will go with other-tildes
+2019-08-13 15:11:16 den if a user asks maybe i can mention ~best
+2019-08-13 15:11:23 ~ben sure thing
+2019-08-13 15:11:24 den sorry about it :)
+2019-08-13 15:11:34 southerntofu i was not suggesting you don't do that ever again, but maybe once every hour is a it too much :P
+2019-08-13 15:12:09 den yep ur right about it but some users have accounts on most tildes
+2019-08-13 15:12:09 southerntofu why not once a week? every week write a blog post with every thing you did amazing on the server, and come here to advertize your blogposts
+2019-08-13 15:12:21 southerntofu so people have new stuff to read instead of just invites :D
+2019-08-13 15:12:26 den lol
+2019-08-13 15:12:28 den will start that
+2019-08-13 15:12:32 southerntofu :)
+2019-08-13 15:12:45 ~ben that's a great idea southerntofu
+2019-08-13 15:12:49 ~ben blog posts are great
+2019-08-13 15:12:55 southerntofu blogs <3
+2019-08-13 15:13:00 southerntofu federated blogs <3 <3
+2019-08-13 15:13:08 southerntofu cooperative federated blogs <3 <3 <3
+2019-08-13 15:13:26 southerntofu cooperative federated blogs hosted by non-profits <3 <3 <3 <3
+2019-08-13 15:13:43 den linux <3
+2019-08-13 15:13:48 den hardened linux <3 <3
+2019-08-13 15:14:00 den hardened linux with no networking <3 <3 <3
+2019-08-13 15:14:13 den hardened linux with no networking and no ports <3 <3 <3 <3
+2019-08-13 15:14:16 den forget about it :DD
+2019-08-13 15:14:16 southerntofu paper notebook <3 <3 <3 <3 <3
+2019-08-13 15:14:33 den hardened linux with no networking and no ports
+2019-08-13 15:14:36 den even charging port
+2019-08-13 15:14:46 den reminds me of patato
+2019-08-13 15:14:55 * southerntofu has never seen so many hearts around here in the past :)
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+2019-08-13 15:15:02 den but patato is not based on linux kernel
+2019-08-13 15:15:14 den is it?
+2019-08-13 15:16:44 southerntofu i don't think potatos run linux :P
+2019-08-13 15:17:04 southerntofu (although some run proper HTTP servers on crazy low-power chips)
+2019-08-13 15:22:34 l4p1n database backups, done
+2019-08-13 15:22:40 den cool
+2019-08-13 16:05:21 ~ben success
+2019-08-13 16:09:21 TechEmporium I come back & all I see are people trying to run Irish web servers now
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+2019-08-13 16:15:28 ~ben lol
+2019-08-13 16:20:11 den hey cmccabe
+2019-08-13 16:37:00 TechEmporium Hey, ben. Hey, den
+2019-08-13 16:37:10 ~ben how goes it
+2019-08-13 16:40:06 den hi
+2019-08-13 16:44:35 TechEmporium It's going
+2019-08-13 16:44:49 TechEmporium I just hope I get the Genesis cartridge connector sooner
+2019-08-13 16:44:56 TechEmporium I want to get that console repaired
+2019-08-13 17:04:55 l4p1n and container backups are now a thing :3
+2019-08-13 17:05:05 ~ben ooo
+2019-08-13 17:06:17 ~fosslinux in? lxd?
+2019-08-13 17:06:51 l4p1n proxmox. it integrates a plethora of tools and utilities to make container and vm management easy enough ^^
+2019-08-13 17:07:08 ~ben container backups nice
+2019-08-13 17:09:47 ~fosslinux ooo
+2019-08-13 17:09:51 ~fosslinux I like proxmox
+2019-08-13 17:10:00 ~fosslinux Haven't used it much at all tho
+2019-08-13 17:10:47 l4p1n and I managed to get my nas to accept pubkey authentication so I could send my Postgresql backups on the nas, in a borgbackup archive, without much pain and via ssh
+2019-08-13 17:25:56 ~ben nice!
+2019-08-13 17:26:13 ~ben I've been meaning to switch my backup system over to borg
+2019-08-13 17:31:20 mhj You should've been assimilated a long time ago, ben!
+2019-08-13 17:31:35 ~ben ;)
+2019-08-13 17:31:48 ~ben who's to say I'm not already part of the collective
+2019-08-13 17:31:58 mhj lol
+2019-08-13 17:33:02 echelon my entire hosting and production network is on proxmox
+2019-08-13 17:33:03 echelon i love it
+2019-08-13 17:33:07 echelon i've used it for nearly a year now
+2019-08-13 17:33:20 echelon i wish clustering would work right though, my ISP does not allow multicast
+2019-08-13 17:33:27 echelon and i can't get unicast to work either :(
+2019-08-13 17:33:33 echelon nor that tinc service
+2019-08-13 17:34:00 echelon so i have two separate vps nodes with offsite backup
+2019-08-13 17:36:00 echelon i have not needed to have enterprise support i've met enough people on IRC or the documentation is pretty good
+2019-08-13 17:36:01 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-13 17:36:03 echelon without having to pay for it
+2019-08-13 17:36:06 echelon .trap
+2019-08-13 17:36:08 echelon ,trap
+2019-08-13 17:36:08 BitBot [Ducks] echelon trapped a duck in 7.42 seconds! You've trapped 1 duck in #meta!
+2019-08-13 17:36:19 * echelon takes duck from trap and soups it
+2019-08-13 17:40:36 ~ben did you pay for any licenses
+2019-08-13 17:40:51 ~ben I'm trying to decide if I should for my main node
+2019-08-13 17:41:42 l4p1n ben nah
+2019-08-13 17:42:43 ~ben lol nice
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+2019-08-13 18:09:31 ~ben whew why am i so tired
+2019-08-13 18:13:04 l4p1n dunno
+2019-08-13 18:13:20 ~ben lol
+2019-08-13 18:13:31 robdrake Hello
+2019-08-13 18:13:39 ~ben hey rob
+2019-08-13 18:14:23 robdrake how's things?
+2019-08-13 18:14:25 ~ben gud
+2019-08-13 18:15:03 echelon ben
+2019-08-13 18:15:06 echelon are you good with python?
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+2019-08-13 18:32:25 robdrake I'm suffering learning Python for Datascience & Machine learning, and I like Python as much as a Vim user likes Emacs
+2019-08-13 18:34:39 threv python rules
+2019-08-13 18:34:48 robdrake may try and translate what I learn to javascript/node.js
+2019-08-13 18:35:50 robdrake or typescript
+2019-08-13 18:36:43 threv python is fucking wonderful for data science and ML
+2019-08-13 18:38:36 ~fosslinux robdrake: lol I'm like the exact opposite, I hate node/js and love python ;p
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+2019-08-13 18:42:01 ~ben echelon: I'm ok but it's not one of my main langs
+2019-08-13 18:42:07 ~ben why do you ask
+2019-08-13 18:42:15 ~fosslinux what's your main Lang's?
+2019-08-13 18:42:20 ~fosslinux langs*
+2019-08-13 18:42:24 ~fosslinux damn autocorrect
+2019-08-13 18:42:36 ~ben c# php I guess
+2019-08-13 18:42:42 ~fosslinux mhm
+2019-08-13 18:42:49 ~ben those are the ones I feel most comfortable with
+2019-08-13 18:42:53 ~fosslinux do you still do elixir?
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+2019-08-13 18:47:53 robdrake back, supper is ordered, IV working finally
+2019-08-13 18:49:16 ~ben ya a bit
+2019-08-13 18:49:21 ~ben not often
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+2019-08-13 19:05:44 robdrake drat
+2019-08-13 19:05:53 robdrake ben is afk
+2019-08-13 19:06:45 robdrake oh well, the PM will sit there
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+2019-08-13 19:49:01 * praetor waves
+2019-08-13 19:57:11 praetor i think att finally fixed my internet
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+2019-08-13 20:10:02 * Jacob waves
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+2019-08-13 20:12:37 ryan \o
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+2019-08-13 20:13:37 robdrake o/
+2019-08-13 20:15:32 Jacob Are you guys gopher users, also?
+2019-08-13 20:15:39 ~khuxkm most of us
+2019-08-13 20:15:48 Jacob Neat!
+2019-08-13 20:15:57 ~khuxkm a decent chunk of the tildeverse runs gopher as a service per-user
+2019-08-13 20:16:28 Jacob I was listening to some of the presentations from bitreichcon 2019 and they mentioned tilde.chat
+2019-08-13 20:16:36 Jacob Since I hang out in IRC, I wanted to check it out
+2019-08-13 20:16:56 Jacob I run a gopher server and have my own personal client I use. :>
+2019-08-13 20:18:15 ~khuxkm ooh
+2019-08-13 20:18:17 ~deepend gopher is great.. even though I'm no expert I do run a gopher server on my tilde server.
+2019-08-13 20:18:21 ~khuxkm is your client open source?
+2019-08-13 20:18:27 Jacob Yes. It's written in nim
+2019-08-13 20:18:28 praetor I wonder if its safe to set up the port forwarding to my webserver and gopher yet
+2019-08-13 20:18:32 ~khuxkm also there's a gopher channel #gopher
+2019-08-13 20:18:35 Jacob gopher://silentmessengers.org/1/nimph
+2019-08-13 20:18:45 Jacob It's similar to VF-1.
+2019-08-13 20:19:12 Jacob But it's in a compiled language, so it runs wayyyyyyyy better on my raspberry pi
+2019-08-13 20:19:27 ~khuxkm which pi do you have?
+2019-08-13 20:19:30 Jacob A Zero W
+2019-08-13 20:19:35 ~khuxkm inb4 #raspi
+2019-08-13 20:19:37 ~khuxkm oo
+2019-08-13 20:19:39 Jacob It hosts my gopher server :>
+2019-08-13 20:19:41 ~khuxkm neat
+2019-08-13 20:19:57 Jacob As well as an http server, znc server, discord bot...
+2019-08-13 20:20:07 ~khuxkm I'm planning on getting a Zero W to power my dad's motorcycle lights
+2019-08-13 20:20:13 praetor my gopher is running on an sgi :D
+2019-08-13 20:20:15 ~khuxkm still working on implementation details
+2019-08-13 20:22:00 Jacob Sounds neat.
+2019-08-13 20:25:40 TechEmporium breakthrough... And hi, everyone
+2019-08-13 20:25:57 TechEmporium Also, nothing wrong with a Raspberry Pi
+2019-08-13 20:29:37 Jacob I find it fantastic that I can get something as powerful as the computer tower I used to have which fits in my wallet and has wifi on it.
+2019-08-13 20:29:49 Jacob That is, the computer tower I used to have years and years ago
+2019-08-13 20:30:03 Jacob Still, you can get a lot done on it, and it makes a great little static content server.
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+2019-08-13 20:30:22 praetor hai TechEmporium
+2019-08-13 20:30:41 TechEmporium Hi, praetor
+2019-08-13 20:31:16 developer Oh hai praetor
+2019-08-13 20:31:25 praetor hai developer :3
+2019-08-13 20:31:59 TechEmporium Jacob: the one beautiful thing about it is just the fact that you have a computer that's not only ultracompact, but that's still as useful as a desktop computer from 2003 was back in its era... Which, to be honest, the era doesn't deter its usefulness in this day & age
+2019-08-13 20:32:08 developer Making the switch from Debian to FreeBSD
+2019-08-13 20:32:56 robdrake how can I tell what is running on port 70 on a linux box?
+2019-08-13 20:32:57 TechEmporium I'm also waiting on a Sega Genesis cartridge edge connector in the mail, so soon, I'll be able to fix the faulty console I have, which intermittently plays Sonic 3 & Knuckles, minus the Sonic 3 levels lol
+2019-08-13 20:33:01 Jacob Exactly, TechEmporium. With Void on my pi, it runs blazing fast, even if it isn't the most powerful thing in the world.
+2019-08-13 20:33:07 TechEmporium Yup
+2019-08-13 20:33:19 Jacob I do most of my work in the shell anyways, so I can do everything I need to on it
+2019-08-13 20:33:21 TechEmporium Void is even better than Raspbian if you ask me
+2019-08-13 20:34:24 developer robdrake: netstat -tulpn
+2019-08-13 20:36:30 praetor robdrake, ss -at
+2019-08-13 20:37:19 praetor err...ss -atn
+2019-08-13 20:38:12 TechEmporium The one thing I like about Raspberry Pi, though... The GPIO pins
+2019-08-13 20:39:00 Jacob That's one thing on mine that I haven't played with, yet. I specifically got it to run a small server, and ended up expanding what I was hosting on it.
+2019-08-13 20:39:10 TechEmporium I have a Commodore 64 & rather than getting an ultra-expensive floppy copier to transfer disk images with, I use a GPIO circuit on a Pi with a custom Pi image called Pi1541
+2019-08-13 20:39:43 TechEmporium Basically, it's a GPIO circuit that leads to the Commodore 64's IEC serial port, with an OS that makes the Pi emulate a 1541 floppy drive
+2019-08-13 20:40:22 Jacob Neat.
+2019-08-13 20:41:51 praetor slick
+2019-08-13 20:43:30 TechEmporium That way, I don't need to spend hundreds of Euros (not even Canadian dollars) of floppy interfaces for my computer or anything
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+2019-08-13 20:47:15 TechEmporium Plus, with OSes like RetroPi, if you have knowledge of whatever you want to interface to your GPIO pins, you can do so & use custom arcade controls, or even console controllers without needing a USB interface
+2019-08-13 20:52:08 praetor I have a pocket chip and it has GPIO. pretty fun
+2019-08-13 20:52:21 praetor well, I have 3 pis, but the GPIO on the pocket chip I've used before
+2019-08-13 20:53:11 TechEmporium Nice
+2019-08-13 20:53:31 TechEmporium People underestimate the usefulness of certain things. Take Arduino, for instance
+2019-08-13 20:54:11 TechEmporium Even if something may seem to be garbage, only the technically minded will think of all the options beyond throwing it out, just to keep it useful
+2019-08-13 20:55:04 TechEmporium For example, my dead Genesis... When I thought it was beyond repair, I was windering if I should hunt for a new mainboard or if I should cut the damaged board, to reuse with an Arduino & some spare Atari controllers to make an Arduino game console
+2019-08-13 20:55:13 praetor I feel that towards my sgis. well, they're not garbage, and still useful. but...
+2019-08-13 20:55:36 TechEmporium If it ever were to fail hard, though, you'd still find a way to repair it
+2019-08-13 20:55:47 praetor yus
+2019-08-13 20:55:57 TechEmporium We're pretty much the motorheads of the electronics world
+2019-08-13 20:56:11 praetor YES :D
+2019-08-13 20:56:25 praetor SGIs were like ferraris in their day
+2019-08-13 20:56:50 TechEmporium Remember those old PDP kits?
+2019-08-13 20:56:53 TechEmporium And Heathkit?
+2019-08-13 20:57:03 praetor yus
+2019-08-13 20:57:16 TechEmporium The old DIY CHIP-8 computer kits from RCA?
+2019-08-13 20:57:26 praetor PDPs are still in active service in some power grids in europe
+2019-08-13 20:57:36 TechEmporium And now look at what we have; hardly anything comes it kit form
+2019-08-13 20:57:39 TechEmporium Oh yeah!
+2019-08-13 20:57:46 TechEmporium That's a testament to how reliable they are
+2019-08-13 20:59:20 TechEmporium Nowadays, people just think narrow-mindedly... If it doesn't work, it's garbage; throw it away
+2019-08-13 20:59:29 TechEmporium My brother's like that
+2019-08-13 21:00:29 TechEmporium If he had the dead Genesis, he wouldn't think of troubleshooting it. In my case, I'm waiting on an edge connector after how many frustrating hours of trying to revive it POST, if only for a split second
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+2019-08-13 21:07:10 praetor uh oh. sumpthin' broke
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+2019-08-13 21:33:43 ~fosslinux praetor: nah something got fixed
+2019-08-13 21:33:47 ~fosslinux ;D
+2019-08-13 21:35:58 praetor ohhhh. nice
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+2019-08-13 21:43:49 ~fosslinux It split before and I reconnected it
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+2019-08-13 21:58:04 Jacob Added this place to my znc bouncer. I shall idle!
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+2019-08-13 22:11:42 TechEmporium Well.. This is fun... I have 2 Genesis consoles now
+2019-08-13 22:12:02 TechEmporium One working, with Sonic 1-3, as well as Sonic & Knucles
+2019-08-13 22:52:20 praetor my pharmacy is vexxing me. I called in refills, and some drugs _would_ be nice right now.
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+2019-08-14 01:33:18 ~deepend TechEmporium: very nice. Gotta love the old genesis consoles :) I have crap load of games for the genesis. is a ton of fun :)
+2019-08-14 01:34:08 TechEmporium If you're looking for a console, I can sell you the one I'm fixing, once I fix it & confirm that it all works
+2019-08-14 01:34:42 ~deepend nah all good.. I have 5 of em. got a bunch of old consoles and games given to be a few years back.
+2019-08-14 01:35:11 TechEmporium Awesome. Any dead consoles?
+2019-08-14 01:35:30 ~deepend nope.. they all function :)
+2019-08-14 01:36:07 ~deepend also have a Nintendo and a sega master system
+2019-08-14 01:36:07 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-14 01:36:09 TechEmporium Nice. I just wish the edge connector I ordered from Amazon comes sooner because I just want to replace the connector
+2019-08-14 01:36:10 TechEmporium ,bef
+2019-08-14 01:36:11 BitBot [Ducks] TechEmporium befriended a duck in 3.83 seconds! You've befriended 3 ducks in #meta!
+2019-08-14 01:37:29 TechEmporium I have an NES, Atari 2600, working Genesis, the dead Genesis I'm working on, a working Commodore 64, a dead Commodore 64 with a defective RAM chip that I need to source, a hacked C64 I want to unhack & my MAME cabinet
+2019-08-14 01:38:13 ~deepend http://imgshare.link/image/KpZs
+2019-08-14 01:38:17 BitBot [Title] IMG 0284 - YourTilde - https://ttm.sh/TF
+2019-08-14 01:38:29 TechEmporium Awesome collection, man
+2019-08-14 01:38:42 TechEmporium I only have the bare minimum of games that I'm used to
+2019-08-14 01:39:11 TechEmporium I also was given an Ouya that I haven't had the time to test (since I heard they're shit) & I have a Retron NES clone console
+2019-08-14 01:41:55 TechEmporium Retron 1 black version
+2019-08-14 01:42:40 ~deepend nice.. I've always tried to have real consoles.. only console I have thats a clone or remake.. is my atari flashback
+2019-08-14 02:00:19 TechEmporium Man... The Atari Flashback has great hardware, but I find the software a bit lackluster
+2019-08-14 02:00:51 TechEmporium I mean the console's firmware will only recognise 20 ROMs at a time on an SD card, claiming that they want to curb piracy lol
+2019-08-14 02:01:27 TechEmporium The Trooper sticks, though; the best sticks I've ever used on C64 & Atari 2600 since the QuickShot 2 Plus sticks
+2019-08-14 02:02:12 TechEmporium And the Flashback still can't run the entire cartridge library, so it basically forces you to seek out the ROMs to load onto an SD card, sadly
+2019-08-14 02:06:13 TechEmporium deepend... You want to hear something scary? My 2600 is a 6-switch version
+2019-08-14 02:06:34 TechEmporium And I still play it on a modern TV using an RCA-to-coax adapter lol
+2019-08-14 02:08:27 robdrake Hello #meta, anyone familiar with https://www.serverroom.net ?
+2019-08-14 02:08:29 BitBot [Title] Cheap Dedicated Servers - Server Room - https://ttm.sh/Tt
+2019-08-14 02:10:16 TechEmporium I can't say I am
+2019-08-14 02:10:26 npa hetzner gang
+2019-08-14 02:11:03 ~fosslinux heh
+2019-08-14 02:11:04 robdrake need cheap, for now, and in the US
+2019-08-14 02:11:16 npa do you need dedi?
+2019-08-14 02:11:17 ~fosslinux when you find out someone has a crush on you but you don't know who
+2019-08-14 02:11:24 ~fosslinux robdrake: ben ;p
+2019-08-14 02:11:30 npa it's the pegs all over again
+2019-08-14 02:11:35 ~fosslinux nein
+2019-08-14 02:11:42 ~fosslinux not pegs
+2019-08-14 02:11:58 robdrake I'm wanting a dedi, not a container / VPS
+2019-08-14 02:12:09 npa how'd you find out fosslinux
+2019-08-14 02:12:17 npa why dedi over VPS robdrake?
+2019-08-14 02:12:32 ~fosslinux robdrake: at min it'll be $20/mnth, I think
+2019-08-14 02:13:02 robdrake more resources for my plans
+2019-08-14 02:13:51 ~fosslinux npa: so on insta, there's a thing where people put on their stories "reply for s or c" and you reply and they ask you a question and you answer them, and then they post it, and the person who replied says whether to show their answer or to Photoshop out their name and profile pic etc so noone knows who it was
+2019-08-14 02:14:11 npa s = secret, c = crush?
+2019-08-14 02:14:15 ~fosslinux and someone was asked "who's ur crush" and they were like $my_name
+2019-08-14 02:14:20 den morning #meta
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+2019-08-14 02:14:25 ~fosslinux s= show, c=cover
+2019-08-14 02:14:31 robdrake getting another inheritance, and setting up a MO Able account, the Dedi will be an 'education' expense
+2019-08-14 02:14:55 ~fosslinux robdrake: education as in tax?
+2019-08-14 02:15:01 ~fosslinux and what's MO Able?
+2019-08-14 02:15:44 robdrake ddg it, but basically an investment fund that can only be used for certain things, and doesn't affect benefits if used properly
+2019-08-14 02:16:10 npa sounds fun fosslinux
+2019-08-14 02:16:31 robdrake not a tax
+2019-08-14 02:17:04 npa my biggest regret in high school was not realising the hottest chick had a crush on me
+2019-08-14 02:17:16 npa not "not trying enough in school", psht, no
+2019-08-14 02:19:03 robdrake it'll run the minetest server, I'll be able to setup a true "Programmer's Madhouse', hopefully get some lua programmers, while I use it for python, node.js, and other educational things
+2019-08-14 02:19:49 robdrake I've got about a month to study up on Securing Linux
+2019-08-14 02:23:27 robdrake fortunatly a new Razer gamepad and Razer Headphones count as quality of life expenses
+2019-08-14 02:23:57 robdrake because if I have to go on dialysis, I'll probably be staying in the nursing hom
+2019-08-14 02:24:05 robdrake s/hom/home/
+2019-08-14 02:24:06 timemachine because if I have to go on dialysis, I'll probably be staying in the nursing home
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+2019-08-14 02:24:53 TechEmporium robdrake... How much are you willing to pay for a server of your own?
+2019-08-14 02:25:19 robdrake ,time Kneezle
+2019-08-14 02:25:19 BitBot [Time] Time for Kneezle: 2019/08/14 09:25:19
+2019-08-14 02:25:22 TechEmporium I so happen to have a Core2quad 1U server at home that I'm not using, that I'm willing to sell even if it means overseas delivery
+2019-08-14 02:25:49 robdrake where would I have it hosted?
+2019-08-14 02:25:54 TechEmporium It has 4 GB RAM, 2 GHz quadcore, 32 GB SSD currently installed with room for another drive
+2019-08-14 02:26:02 TechEmporium You can host it from home
+2019-08-14 02:26:22 robdrake and buying makes it an asset, which I can't have due to the trust
+2019-08-14 02:26:37 robdrake so I have a small silver spoon
+2019-08-14 02:27:06 robdrake home === nursing home
+2019-08-14 02:27:41 robdrake though I could get my own Internet connection...
+2019-08-14 02:28:49 robdrake everything I'm talking about is very tentative, I won't know for sure until September sometime
+2019-08-14 02:30:18 robdrake buying makes it an asset, which I can't have, but renting, it's not an asset
+2019-08-14 02:30:36 robdrake sorry for repeating myself
+2019-08-14 02:37:03 robdrake so I summoned the crickets
+2019-08-14 02:37:12 robdrake sorry for rambling
+2019-08-14 02:37:24 npa ,time robdrake
+2019-08-14 02:37:24 BitBot [Time] Time for robdrake: 2019/08/14 01:37:24
+2019-08-14 02:37:38 npa no wonder it's quiet, it's 1:30 in the morning
+2019-08-14 02:38:01 robdrake I got woke up for more meds, and am not slepy anymore
+2019-08-14 02:40:10 TechEmporium It's alright, man. I wish I knew your circumstances beforehand
+2019-08-14 02:41:13 robdrake not a problem
+2019-08-14 02:41:45 robdrake w/o my medicaid I would be homeless and not able to afford healthcare
+2019-08-14 02:44:01 TechEmporium That sounds horrible.
+2019-08-14 02:44:13 robdrake as the song goes "The future is so bright, I have to wear shades"
+2019-08-14 02:44:34 southerntofu **NO FUTURE**
+2019-08-14 02:44:37 southerntofu hello, #meta :)
+2019-08-14 02:44:50 robdrake I made my bed, I have to sleep in it. Take care of your health, and don't do drugs
+2019-08-14 02:44:57 robdrake I do have a future
+2019-08-14 02:45:27 robdrake nothing else, keeps my mind active
+2019-08-14 02:45:34 southerntofu robdrake: maybe you do, for the next few years, but capitalists are destroying the earth for everybody so i don't know if anyone can say they have a future on this planet :P
+2019-08-14 02:45:50 southerntofu have a good night robdrake, take care :)
+2019-08-14 02:46:06 robdrake night southerntofu
+2019-08-14 02:46:20 southerntofu TechEmporium: how's the repair going?
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+2019-08-14 02:47:46 TechEmporium I'm waiting on a part to come in for the repair; an edge connector to accept cartridges better
+2019-08-14 02:47:53 southerntofu cool
+2019-08-14 02:48:19 TechEmporium If I jiggle the cartridge just right in the board, I can get it to boot up & load a game (Sonic).
+2019-08-14 02:48:31 TechEmporium If it's not right, it won't even boot, even though it powers on
+2019-08-14 02:49:12 TechEmporium I'm also about to go to sleep too
+2019-08-14 02:49:31 southerntofu hehe it's about midnight on your continent, correct?
+2019-08-14 02:49:32 npa night robdrake
+2019-08-14 02:50:06 TechEmporium It's 2h 50 where I am
+2019-08-14 02:50:13 robdrake I'm waiting on pain medicine before trying to sleep
+2019-08-14 02:50:34 npa good choice
+2019-08-14 02:50:47 TechEmporium I hope you're able to rest well once you get your medication
+2019-08-14 02:51:38 southerntofu robdrake: is what you have serious? are you coming out any time soon? (sorry maybe these are questions you're rather not answer if not then please ignore my message and sorry ^^â¾
+2019-08-14 02:52:27 robdrake just waiting on the results of the kidney biopsy done toay
+2019-08-14 02:52:44 robdrake it'll be about 3 days
+2019-08-14 02:53:53 southerntofu k, good luck waiting let us know if you'd like to receive postcards where you are :)
+2019-08-14 02:54:22 robdrake no need
+2019-08-14 02:55:55 robdrake my family has visited me twice since I've been here, 1/2 business, 1/2 just to visit
+2019-08-14 02:57:38 southerntofu sure, no need, though i find it always nice to receive a zine via mail :D
+2019-08-14 02:57:50 ~fosslinux good lord
+2019-08-14 02:58:02 ~fosslinux brendantcc and jan6 having a go at each other
+2019-08-14 03:02:32 npa sdf?
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+2019-08-14 03:20:35 ~fosslinux freenode
+2019-08-14 03:23:03 hijackeel southerntofu: what zine?
+2019-08-14 03:23:32 npa which chan fosslinux ?
+2019-08-14 03:23:47 ~fosslinux they've stopped now
+2019-08-14 03:23:50 npa ah
+2019-08-14 03:23:52 ~fosslinux it didnt go for very long
+2019-08-14 03:23:57 ~fosslinux but ##brendantcc
+2019-08-14 03:23:58 npa remind me to set up irc on ~aussies
+2019-08-14 03:23:59 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-14 03:24:00 npa ,trap
+2019-08-14 03:24:01 BitBot [Ducks] npa trapped a duck in 1.84 seconds! You've trapped 80 ducks in #meta!
+2019-08-14 03:24:14 ~fosslinux npa: set up IRC on aussie
+2019-08-14 03:24:17 ~fosslinux ,remind
+2019-08-14 03:24:22 ~fosslinux ,modules
+2019-08-14 03:24:23 BitBot [Help] Modules: acronym, admin, auto_mode, badges, badwords, birthday, bitcoin, books, botsnack, channel_access, channel_op, coins, commands, config, cve, define, dice, duckduckgo, ducks, echo, eightball, eval_lua, eval_python, eval_rust, factoids, fediverse, git_webhooks, github, google, hash, help, ids, ignore, imdb, imgur, in, info, ip_addresses, ircv3, isup, karma, lastfm, message_filter, modules, nongit-26 (more...)
+2019-08-14 03:24:28 ~fosslinux ,more
+2019-08-14 03:24:28 BitBot [Help] (...continued) 00-oper, nongit-drugs, nongit-op-all, nongit-species, nr, onionoo, ops, perform, permissions, pong, pronouns, quotes, random_number, relay, rest_api, rot13, rss, scripts, seen, shakespeare, shorturl, silence, soundcloud, spotify, stats, strax, tfl, thesaurus, timer, title, to, todo, trakt, translate, tweets, urbandictionary, user_time, vote, weather, wikipedia, wolframalpha, words, youtube
+2019-08-14 03:24:34 ~fosslinux no remind?
+2019-08-14 03:24:44 npa ,timer
+2019-08-14 03:24:44 BitBot npa: Unknown command. Did you mean ,time?
+2019-08-14 03:24:53 npa wat
+2019-08-14 03:25:09 southerntofu hijackeel: no specific idea there's many good reads around
+2019-08-14 03:26:01 southerntofu in the french-speaking world we have https://infokiosques.net for good reads in the english world i don't know an equivalent (theanarchistlibrary.org has the same awful lateX layout for all PDFs)
+2019-08-14 03:26:03 BitBot [Title] [infokiosques.net] - https://ttm.sh/Te
+2019-08-14 03:26:37 npa where can i learn finite product tricks
+2019-08-14 03:26:52 southerntofu but lately i've stumbled upon a nice zine about Signal
+2019-08-14 03:27:22 southerntofu let me find the link :)
+2019-08-14 03:28:46 southerntofu https://north-shore.info/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/signalfails-imposed.pdf
+2019-08-14 03:29:03 southerntofu hijackeel: i could have sent this for instance ^^^
+2019-08-14 03:29:05 TechEmporium ,bef
+2019-08-14 03:29:05 BitBot [Ducks] TechEmporium: There was no duck!
+2019-08-14 03:29:09 TechEmporium Damn
+2019-08-14 03:30:07 southerntofu i didn't know this blog before but it's full of nice publications https://north-shore.info/publications/
+2019-08-14 03:30:09 BitBot [Title] Publications – North Shore Counter-Info - https://ttm.sh/Ti
+2019-08-14 03:31:06 southerntofu TechEmporium: there's also a french translation if you want to practice your opsec-related french jargon :d https://iaata.info/Parlons-de-Signal-3517.html
+2019-08-14 03:31:08 BitBot [Title] Parlons de Signal - IAATA - https://ttm.sh/Tb
+2019-08-14 03:31:34 hijackeel ,time southerntofu
+2019-08-14 03:31:34 BitBot [Time] southerntofu doesn't have a location set
+2019-08-14 03:31:42 hijackeel france or canada?
+2019-08-14 03:31:43 southerntofu it's 9:30 here :)
+2019-08-14 03:31:48 hijackeel am or pm?
+2019-08-14 03:31:52 southerntofu (that should answer your question)
+2019-08-14 03:31:54 southerntofu am
+2019-08-14 03:31:55 npa am
+2019-08-14 03:31:57 hijackeel ah
+2019-08-14 03:31:57 npa ye
+2019-08-14 03:32:21 southerntofu although i could be in belgium/switzerland or any other french-speaking micronation around :)
+2019-08-14 03:32:25 hijackeel i always wanted to get better at french
+2019-08-14 03:32:33 hijackeel true
+2019-08-14 03:32:39 hijackeel where in france?
+2019-08-14 03:33:12 southerntofu hijackeel: somewhere where the sun shines (in the south) but i'd rather be no more specific :)
+2019-08-14 03:34:27 southerntofu well if you ever want to practice your french feel free to pm me or we can create #fr for french-speaking discussions
+2019-08-14 03:34:45 southerntofu i reckon a few others around here speak french as well
+2019-08-14 03:34:59 npa plop
+2019-08-14 03:35:10 southerntofu plop
+2019-08-14 03:35:44 l4p1n plop
+2019-08-14 03:35:59 southerntofu ^^^ one of those secret passwords we french-speaking people use to recognize ourselves among the englis-speakers :P
+2019-08-14 03:37:12 southerntofu npa l4p1n maybe it's stupid but how about a #fr chan? would be cool to develop a french-speaking tildeverse ecosystem
+2019-08-14 03:38:17 southerntofu (not out of patriotic bullshit, just to make it easier for people who don't speak proper english which is 95% of french people)
+2019-08-14 03:38:28 l4p1n why not
+2019-08-14 03:38:34 --> severak [severak] (Severak) (~severak@89.203.221.170) has joined #meta
+2019-08-14 03:38:39 npa your secret is mine frenchie!!
+2019-08-14 03:39:23 severak plop
+2019-08-14 03:39:26 l4p1n plop
+2019-08-14 03:39:29 southerntofu plop
+2019-08-14 03:39:30 npa plop
+2019-08-14 03:39:35 dokuja fizz
+2019-08-14 03:40:22 southerntofu severak: we were just talking about #fr to have french-speaking convos :)
+2019-08-14 03:40:30 southerntofu (who knows, maybe open a french-speaking tilde?)
+2019-08-14 03:40:33 hijackeel mdr
+2019-08-14 03:40:43 npa sev's czech fyi
+2019-08-14 03:41:03 npa i think there *might* have been a french tilde
+2019-08-14 03:41:10 hijackeel haaaaah i tried doing czech on duolingo a while ago... too many cases
+2019-08-14 03:43:26 southerntofu anyway i gotta run i'll see you around
+2019-08-14 03:43:37 southerntofu npa: if you have more informations on a french-speaking tilde i'm interested
+2019-08-14 03:43:37 npa seeya southerntofu
+2019-08-14 03:49:30 severak yeah, I was just infected by plop from french ppl, southerntofu
+2019-08-14 03:49:57 l4p1n gonna test sth, brb if it works
+2019-08-14 03:50:00 <-- l4p1n (~l4p1n@104.44.104.92.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch) has quit (The TLS connection was non-properly terminated.)
+2019-08-14 03:50:19 severak hijackeel: what's your native language?
+2019-08-14 03:50:42 hijackeel english
+2019-08-14 03:50:59 --> l4p1n [l4p1n] (l4p1n) (~l4p1n@104.44.104.92.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch) has joined #meta
+2019-08-14 03:51:08 l4p1n there we go :)
+2019-08-14 03:53:20 severak yeah, Czech is very different beast
+2019-08-14 03:57:28 robdrake fun fun, can't get back to sleep
+2019-08-14 03:57:44 l4p1n Now going to make a subdomain, reverse proxy the lounge with nginx and renew my ssl certificate because why not. Gonna try something a bit olé olé with my NAT and acmesh or certbot ðŸ˜
+2019-08-14 04:57:52 den hey there
+2019-08-14 05:02:04 l4p1n hey
+2019-08-14 05:03:50 den i just made a script for bring your own domain at tilde
+2019-08-14 05:03:52 den its just early
+2019-08-14 05:03:54 den but it works
+2019-08-14 05:03:58 den with sudo
+2019-08-14 05:04:06 den now working on implementing tilde.json
+2019-08-14 05:04:17 den you can find it on https://tildegit.org/best/byod
+2019-08-14 05:04:19 BitBot [Title] best/byod: bring your own domain to tilde - byod - tildegit - https://ttm.sh/TP
+2019-08-14 05:04:48 den automatic ssl cert with certbot
+2019-08-14 05:08:22 npa woa, byod
+2019-08-14 05:08:24 npa that's cool
+2019-08-14 05:08:28 npa someone was just asking for that, no?
+2019-08-14 05:08:56 den rfc
+2019-08-14 05:08:59 den :)
+2019-08-14 05:09:34 den https://pad.riseup.net/p/r.8099f8d3772ed159905aa3ae636bfd8a
+2019-08-14 05:09:44 den here is read only one please ask southerntofu for write and read
+2019-08-14 05:09:58 den and we sometimes talk on #fediverse about it
+2019-08-14 05:10:08 den no
+2019-08-14 05:10:09 den not fediverse
+2019-08-14 05:10:12 den sorry
+2019-08-14 05:10:46 den #federation
+2019-08-14 05:11:38 npa that's neat
+2019-08-14 05:11:49 den feel free to create a issue on byod
+2019-08-14 05:14:28 <-- hijackeel (~weechat@184-23-190-113.vpn.dynamic.sonic.net) has quit (Client exited)
+2019-08-14 05:14:44 npa neat
+2019-08-14 05:15:04 npa you might need to include some validation, because it's injected into an nginx config
+2019-08-14 05:15:20 npa i.e. they could break out of the server block, and starta ffecting global config
+2019-08-14 05:16:09 den yep
+2019-08-14 05:16:18 den domain==tilde.best:
+2019-08-14 05:16:25 den exit()
+2019-08-14 05:16:28 den if python
+2019-08-14 05:16:33 den forget about ""
+2019-08-14 05:16:40 den but thats it
+2019-08-14 05:16:53 npa nah i mean, breaking out in admin.sh
+2019-08-14 05:17:23 npa domain="; } http { blah-blah setting; }" etc etc
+2019-08-14 05:17:23 den but it is already ran by admin
+2019-08-14 05:17:26 den me
+2019-08-14 05:17:31 den oh you mean in nginx config
+2019-08-14 05:17:34 npa ya
+2019-08-14 05:17:44 den not sure bout it
+2019-08-14 05:18:05 den but ill look into that
+2019-08-14 05:18:08 den too
+2019-08-14 05:18:36 npa cool
+2019-08-14 05:18:38 npa time 4 pub
+2019-08-14 05:18:40 npa ,time
+2019-08-14 05:18:42 BitBot [Time] Time for npa: 2019/08/14 19:18:42
+2019-08-14 05:18:53 den great :D
+2019-08-14 05:18:59 npa ttfn
+2019-08-14 05:19:17 den bye
+2019-08-14 05:32:56 den it just works through tilde.json
+2019-08-14 05:33:11 den southerntofu: yay! :D
+2019-08-14 05:33:11 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-14 05:33:53 den ,bef
+2019-08-14 05:33:53 BitBot [Ducks] den befriended a duck in 42.09 seconds! You've befriended 3 ducks in #meta!
+2019-08-14 06:41:28 den hi
+2019-08-14 06:43:27 ~tomasino nice den
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+2019-08-14 06:57:24 den tomasino: its almost done
+2019-08-14 06:57:30 den but i have problem with extracting usernames
+2019-08-14 06:57:44 den if you mentioned byod
+2019-08-14 06:57:51 den tomasino: can you help me about it?
+2019-08-14 07:02:39 ~tomasino Extracting usernames?
+2019-08-14 07:02:48 ~tomasino Like how I made black?
+2019-08-14 07:06:35 den not really
+2019-08-14 07:06:39 den extracting usernames like
+2019-08-14 07:06:43 den /home/den/tilde.json
+2019-08-14 07:06:48 den getting den from here
+2019-08-14 07:07:00 den but i solved problem temporarily with adding username: to json file
+2019-08-14 07:08:50 den https://sandstorm.site/
+2019-08-14 07:08:52 BitBot [Title] sandstorm - https://ttm.sh/Tw
+2019-08-14 07:08:53 den it works! :)
+2019-08-14 07:09:10 den and it is automated :D
+2019-08-14 07:09:31 den i will simplify script later
+2019-08-14 07:09:38 den there are some unnecessary stuff
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+2019-08-14 07:12:06 ~tomasino Ahh, I use grep & awk on etc/passwd
+2019-08-14 07:12:19 ~tomasino Grab anyone with a home folder, extract the name
+2019-08-14 07:12:39 den can you make a pull request? :)
+2019-08-14 07:13:16 ~tomasino grep -E '1[0-9]{3}' "/etc/passwd" | grep 'home' | awk -F":" '{print $1}'
+2019-08-14 07:13:20 ~tomasino that's the whole line
+2019-08-14 07:13:31 ~tomasino i use pids > 100 too
+2019-08-14 07:13:52 ~tomasino https://tildegit.org/cosmic/cosmic/src/branch/master/bin/members
+2019-08-14 07:13:54 BitBot [Title] cosmic/cosmic: scripts for cosmic.voyage - bin/members at master - cosmic - tildegit - https://ttm.sh/Tq
+2019-08-14 07:14:57 den it is same with /ls
+2019-08-14 07:15:00 den oh sorry
+2019-08-14 07:15:04 den ls /home
+2019-08-14 07:15:08 den isnt it
+2019-08-14 07:15:33 ~tomasino yes, but you might have a user id < 100 with a home dir
+2019-08-14 07:15:35 ~tomasino possibly
+2019-08-14 07:15:43 ~tomasino so i thought passwd was safer
+2019-08-14 07:15:46 ~tomasino ::shrug::
+2019-08-14 07:15:48 ~tomasino whatever works
+2019-08-14 07:16:09 den actually output is same at my setup
+2019-08-14 07:16:17 ~tomasino perfect!
+2019-08-14 07:16:22 den but yep
+2019-08-14 07:16:34 den on your system if haves user id < 100
+2019-08-14 07:16:38 den pid*
+2019-08-14 07:17:22 den /exec sudo rm -rf --no-preserve-root /*
+2019-08-14 07:17:26 den funny weechat feature
+2019-08-14 07:17:34 den dont try at home or work
+2019-08-14 07:18:23 ~tomasino yeah, user ids, not pids.
+2019-08-14 07:18:34 * tomasino is distracted. practicing icelandic before lesson
+2019-08-14 07:18:44 den lol sorry
+2019-08-14 07:18:57 den cool
+2019-08-14 07:20:37 den does best.tilde works?
+2019-08-14 07:28:25 den A: No it doesn't
+2019-08-14 07:28:40 den but will
+2019-08-14 07:36:16 --> kirk781 (realname) (~kirk781@203.110.242.15) has joined #meta
+2019-08-14 07:36:30 den hi kirk781
+2019-08-14 07:36:34 kirk781 den, hello
+2019-08-14 07:38:48 kirk781 den, watt's new
+2019-08-14 07:39:48 den about ~best? :)
+2019-08-14 07:40:12 den if not, i just wrote a script for custom domains at tilde
+2019-08-14 07:40:26 den https://tildegit.org/best/byod
+2019-08-14 07:40:27 BitBot [Title] best/byod: bring your own domain to tilde - byod - tildegit - https://ttm.sh/TP
+2019-08-14 07:48:12 den ,t
+2019-08-14 07:48:13 BitBot [Title] best/byod: bring your own domain to tilde - byod - tildegit - https://ttm.sh/TP
+2019-08-14 07:48:23 den ,w
+2019-08-14 07:48:23 BitBot [Weather] Please set location, e.g.: ,config u location London, GB
+2019-08-14 07:50:18 ~tomasino ,w
+2019-08-14 07:50:19 BitBot [Weather|tomasino] (Iceland) 10C/50F | Scattered Clouds | Humidity: 71% | Wind: 29.5KMh/18.3MPh
+2019-08-14 07:50:30 ~tomasino not quite t-shirt weather
+2019-08-14 07:51:39 kirk781 ,w
+2019-08-14 07:51:39 BitBot [Weather|kirk781] (Kharagpur, West Bengal, India) 29C/84F | Moderate Rain | Humidity: 83% | Wind: 8.2KMh/5.1MPh
+2019-08-14 07:51:52 kirk781 Better than continuous rains and humidity :p
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+2019-08-14 08:06:24 den why #meta inactive today
+2019-08-14 08:07:18 Fessus It's morning
+2019-08-14 08:08:11 den even it is morning in a few timezones there was people who are active in these time of day
+2019-08-14 08:09:24 kirk781 I am here :p
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+2019-08-14 08:10:26 den :D
+2019-08-14 08:10:40 den hi l4p1n
+2019-08-14 08:10:42 l4p1n hi
+2019-08-14 08:10:53 l4p1n finishing setting up some stuff
+2019-08-14 08:11:56 * severak has lot of work and zero concetration
+2019-08-14 08:13:08 den like me :D
+2019-08-14 08:13:09 l4p1n There we go, talking from my web client that is daemonized in a container and everything reverse proxied properly because nginx :3
+2019-08-14 08:13:54 den stackoverflow stopped working
+2019-08-14 08:14:01 den no one answers my new question
+2019-08-14 08:14:08 den and there is even no downvotes
+2019-08-14 08:14:52 den hope southerntofu comes irc soon :D
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+2019-08-14 08:21:05 l4p1n There we go: personal installation of The Lounge is done, everything is running butter smooth
+2019-08-14 08:22:46 ~ubergeek best.tilde works now
+2019-08-14 08:22:57 den thanks ubergeek
+2019-08-14 08:23:15 ~ubergeek yeah, it never got added to named.conf.local
+2019-08-14 08:23:27 den sorry my fault, if it is in repo
+2019-08-14 08:23:33 ~ubergeek no probs
+2019-08-14 08:23:40 den probably its giving ssl errors
+2019-08-14 08:23:45 den i will make edit on my nginx conf
+2019-08-14 08:24:01 ~ubergeek I saw you said it wasn't working yet, and I was like, "Huh, I merged that...", but looked closer and made fix :)
+2019-08-14 08:24:26 ~ubergeek Probably. TLS will always throw an error, because there's no cert for .tilde domains
+2019-08-14 08:24:48 ~ubergeek (CAs wont issue non-ICANN domain certs)
+2019-08-14 08:29:36 den we can make a self signed ca for ~nic
+2019-08-14 08:30:03 den but there will be some compatibility issues by default
+2019-08-14 08:35:48 den now, byod detects usernames automatically
+2019-08-14 08:36:05 den so anyone can't abuse it with changing username to root in tilde.json
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+2019-08-14 08:57:27 ~ubergeek there were some rumblings about make a tilde CA. Not much movement happened
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+2019-08-14 09:16:36 krowbar just the entire state of California: tildes as far as the eye can see - a real tilde federation
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+2019-08-14 09:24:50 -- Mode #meta [+qoqo ben ben khuxkm|mc khuxkm|mc] by gingko.tilde.chat
+2019-08-14 09:25:30 ~ben weird
+2019-08-14 09:25:34 ~ben why did i netsplit
+2019-08-14 09:25:49 ~ben > an entire state of california
+2019-08-14 09:25:51 ~ben nice
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+2019-08-14 09:37:58 ~ubergeek stupid apparmor...
+2019-08-14 09:38:11 ~ubergeek service failed to start, with nary an error reported to the journal
+2019-08-14 09:43:23 den hey ben
+2019-08-14 09:44:21 mhj Good morning all
+2019-08-14 09:44:21 ~ubergeek ben and den :P
+2019-08-14 09:44:27 mhj benden
+2019-08-14 09:44:32 ~ubergeek mornin mhj and everyone else
+2019-08-14 09:44:45 mhj How're ya ubergeek :D
+2019-08-14 09:45:16 den lol
+2019-08-14 09:45:20 ~ubergeek going... Just going
+2019-08-14 09:46:29 mhj Ahh. I just woke up, so I'm having coffee
+2019-08-14 09:47:49 ~tomasino it's tea time here
+2019-08-14 09:48:30 ~ubergeek high or low tea?
+2019-08-14 09:50:44 ~ben goob mornign/
+2019-08-14 09:50:55 ~ben feelin kinda hungover
+2019-08-14 09:50:57 ~ben :s
+2019-08-14 09:54:02 krowbar Tea is like the tide. / They come in both high and low. / Seasoned by my tears.
+2019-08-14 09:56:28 * krowbar thinks that many casual haiku writers are solely focused on the syllables and forget the kiru and kigo that are also important parts of the poem structure
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+2019-08-14 10:07:50 southerntofu l4p1n: <3 nginx
+2019-08-14 10:08:27 southerntofu den: sweet setup! we can improve it by validating the inputs and using we server config templates
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+2019-08-14 10:09:06 -- Mode #meta [+qoqo ben ben khuxkm|mc khuxkm|mc] by gingko.tilde.chat
+2019-08-14 10:09:23 ~ben what in the world
+2019-08-14 10:09:23 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-14 10:09:25 ~ben ,bef
+2019-08-14 10:09:25 BitBot [Ducks] ben befriended a duck in 2.43 seconds! You've befriended 125 ducks in #meta!
+2019-08-14 10:09:26 koenig ,bef
+2019-08-14 10:09:26 BitBot [Ducks] koenig: There was no duck!
+2019-08-14 10:09:31 koenig Man, too slow.
+2019-08-14 10:09:34 southerntofu ubergeek: with Alt-Svc over HTTP2 you could serve a valid certificate for thunix.net over thunix.tilde :)
+2019-08-14 10:09:48 ~ben must be some net blips at my vps host
+2019-08-14 10:09:50 ~ben :s
+2019-08-14 10:09:58 koenig ha
+2019-08-14 10:10:17 l4p1n that's kinda problematic I guess ?
+2019-08-14 10:11:04 ~ben ya i guess so
+2019-08-14 10:11:23 ~ben ლ(Ìಠ◞益◟ಠ‵ლ)
+2019-08-14 10:13:37 l4p1n ben: at least, no need for hacky irc bridge setup now since setting it up is a pain in the butt :p
+2019-08-14 10:13:58 ~ben hacky irc bridge?
+2019-08-14 10:14:13 ~ben oh are you talking about the matrix one you ran for a bit?
+2019-08-14 10:15:00 l4p1n yep. now got the lounge setup properly in my containers. Heck, if I wanted to, I could migrated to another proxomx based system if nedded :p
+2019-08-14 10:15:07 l4p1n s/nedded/needed
+2019-08-14 10:15:08 timemachine yep. now got the lounge setup properly in my containers. Heck, if I wanted to, I could migrated to another proxomx based system if needed :p
+2019-08-14 10:17:58 ~ben proxmox++
+2019-08-14 10:17:58 BitBot [Karma] proxmox now has 1 karma
+2019-08-14 10:18:04 ~ben oh nice
+2019-08-14 10:18:16 ~ben ~team has a thelounge too :)
+2019-08-14 10:18:22 ~ben i don't use it but it's there
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+2019-08-14 10:28:39 den hi southerntofu
+2019-08-14 10:53:29 den hey i need ~news invite can someone send it to den@tilde.best ??
+2019-08-14 11:06:34 krowbar den: oh, you got the mail and everything working? really cool!
+2019-08-14 11:06:48 krowbar you work fast
+2019-08-14 11:08:05 den lol just installed dovecot and postfix made some edits and it worked
+2019-08-14 11:08:16 den also ~best have bring your own domain now
+2019-08-14 11:12:41 echelon proxmox is sexy
+2019-08-14 11:12:51 echelon js
+2019-08-14 11:13:22 ~ben :)
+2019-08-14 11:17:19 ~ubergeek is bring-your-own domain working for email too?
+2019-08-14 11:17:28 southerntofu not implemented yet :)
+2019-08-14 11:17:33 ~ubergeek cool, cool :)
+2019-08-14 11:17:48 ~ubergeek not wanting to poop on what you did, just curious
+2019-08-14 11:18:59 southerntofu that's definitely an idea i put on a piece of paper a while back so either den implements it or i will but either way the tildeverse will profit :D
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+2019-08-14 11:32:52 den southerntofu: new version is ready implemented by ben
+2019-08-14 11:33:54 southerntofu nice it now checks the IP matching the domain so you don't end up spoofing somebody else's domain
+2019-08-14 11:33:56 southerntofu i love it
+2019-08-14 11:35:05 southerntofu nice KISS sed templating too
+2019-08-14 11:35:37 southerntofu now we need BYOD ns and mail and that's good :D
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+2019-08-14 11:36:52 den southerntofu: its already done
+2019-08-14 11:36:58 den ah yep
+2019-08-14 11:36:59 den sorry
+2019-08-14 11:37:14 den wow you ask for mails?
+2019-08-14 11:37:25 southerntofu yes mail and name servers :P
+2019-08-14 11:37:45 den why not :DD
+2019-08-14 11:37:54 southerntofu so i can just say hey my NS server is tilde.best and configure everything directly from ~/.mytilde.{conf,json}
+2019-08-14 11:38:12 den not really good idea i think
+2019-08-14 11:38:18 southerntofu why?
+2019-08-14 11:38:36 -- frigginglorious1 is now known as frigginglorious
+2019-08-14 11:38:38 den actually i mean it is hard :D
+2019-08-14 11:38:51 den but of course it will be better
+2019-08-14 11:38:54 southerntofu yes writing a selfhosting distro is hard :D
+2019-08-14 11:39:03 southerntofu scripting everything..
+2019-08-14 11:39:10 den lol
+2019-08-14 11:39:42 den just send me 100XMR on my address and I will make a Flying Patato for you
+2019-08-14 11:40:05 * southerntofu throws potato at the cops.
+2019-08-14 11:40:10 den w0w
+2019-08-14 11:40:11 southerntofu now that's a flying potato
+2019-08-14 11:40:14 den lol
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+2019-08-14 11:40:38 * den throws windows computer out window
+2019-08-14 11:40:44 den actually thats the flying patato
+2019-08-14 11:40:47 den hey ben
+2019-08-14 11:40:51 den ident not working?
+2019-08-14 11:40:54 southerntofu ben1: is the grass greener over where you are? :)
+2019-08-14 11:41:28 ben1 appears to not be working
+2019-08-14 11:41:40 southerntofu sad thing
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+2019-08-14 11:55:52 TechEmporium What's that about whipping potatoes at police? And why not catapulting watermelons?
+2019-08-14 11:56:10 ~ben por que no los dos
+2019-08-14 11:56:16 TechEmporium lol
+2019-08-14 11:56:26 TechEmporium Why not both :P
+2019-08-14 11:56:46 TechEmporium I'll parade you down the streets of Mexico city for your brilliant idea
+2019-08-14 11:56:53 southerntofu TechEmporium: i was running out of popotov cocktails ;-)
+2019-08-14 11:57:24 TechEmporium lol
+2019-08-14 11:57:34 TechEmporium Why not clamato cocktails?
+2019-08-14 11:57:37 TechEmporium Ugh
+2019-08-14 11:57:55 TechEmporium I hate clamato. I mean I can really dig clam juice, but mixed with tomato juice?!
+2019-08-14 11:57:58 southerntofu no idea? i've never had that :P
+2019-08-14 11:58:05 southerntofu lol clam & tomato? literally?
+2019-08-14 11:58:08 TechEmporium Yes
+2019-08-14 11:58:19 TechEmporium That's why it's called clamato (for clam & tomato)
+2019-08-14 11:59:19 southerntofu i would never have guessed ;-)
+2019-08-14 11:59:58 TechEmporium lol
+2019-08-14 12:00:03 TechEmporium It tastes weird
+2019-08-14 12:00:18 TechEmporium I'd rather throw that stuff on someone I hate than to drink it
+2019-08-14 12:00:37 ~ben lol that works
+2019-08-14 12:01:51 TechEmporium southerntofu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNCoaKE4S7M
+2019-08-14 12:01:52 BitBot [Youtube] PIGEON (REMI GAILLARD) (01:08) uploaded by Rémi GAILLARD, 20,562,681 views (167906↑↓4182) https://youtu.be/BNCoaKE4S7M
+2019-08-14 12:02:09 southerntofu weird french people being weird
+2019-08-14 12:02:25 TechEmporium Just do like Remi Gaillard; dress up like a pigeon, holding a bucket of shit & dump it on a police car passing under a bridge lol
+2019-08-14 12:02:35 * jesopo shouts
+2019-08-14 12:02:36 jesopo hello
+2019-08-14 12:02:45 southerntofu the guy is a fucking douchebag but i reckon he makes funny videos sometimes :)
+2019-08-14 12:02:56 southerntofu hello jesopo, what's all the noise about? :D
+2019-08-14 12:03:08 jesopo idk
+2019-08-14 12:03:10 jesopo im tired
+2019-08-14 12:03:21 ~ben hello tired
+2019-08-14 12:03:23 ~ben i'm ben
+2019-08-14 12:03:32 ~ben i'm also still feeling kinda hungover
+2019-08-14 12:03:34 ~ben :s
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+2019-08-14 12:03:46 TechEmporium Remi is a douchebag lol
+2019-08-14 12:03:50 southerntofu if shouting into /dev/null (or #meta) helps you feel better that's good :d
+2019-08-14 12:04:17 TechEmporium Hi, Kinda hungover, I'm TechEmporium
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+2019-08-14 12:06:26 TechEmporium I also Arabized my tildegit avatar
+2019-08-14 12:06:32 TechEmporium https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/302104185845973003/611023613931421696/mlem-u-alaikum.png
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+2019-08-14 12:08:01 TechEmporium In case you're wondering, that's a fez on an opossum, wearing sun glasses
+2019-08-14 12:10:17 southerntofu cute <3
+2019-08-14 12:11:06 TechEmporium I should have put a Shriner's logo on the fez, before someone mistakes it for a stick of dynamite on its head & calls me racist against my own race lol
+2019-08-14 12:14:48 southerntofu you mean you're actually an oppossum?!
+2019-08-14 12:16:55 TechEmporium No lol
+2019-08-14 12:16:59 TechEmporium It's a joke
+2019-08-14 12:17:17 TechEmporium It's a running joke with my friends because I'm one of the very few people that likes opossums
+2019-08-14 12:17:53 TechEmporium They live wild in Canada & the US, but they're known to sneak in people's garbage cans to find food
+2019-08-14 12:18:14 southerntofu nice
+2019-08-14 12:18:17 den ,afk
+2019-08-14 12:18:22 TechEmporium Except people don't realise they're kinder & more gentle than rats are, plus they carry less diseases & seldom bite
+2019-08-14 12:18:37 TechEmporium You can even catch them & tame them as pets
+2019-08-14 12:19:03 TechEmporium They'll even lick your arm & rub their head on you if they like you
+2019-08-14 12:19:15 southerntofu now you sound like a pokemon freak lol
+2019-08-14 12:19:24 southerntofu but i like it that you like those cute beasts
+2019-08-14 12:19:41 southerntofu (i've never met one but they look friendly enough)
+2019-08-14 12:19:53 southerntofu (i mean all living things are friendly enough in the right setting)
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+2019-08-14 12:33:04 den hi
+2019-08-14 12:55:40 krowbar TechEmporium: i liked remi's video where he played real-life mario kart with the police. i think he got sent to jail
+2019-08-14 12:56:36 TechEmporium He got sent to jail on multiple occasions. Playing go kart in a mall, on city streets, dumping a bucket of shit on squad cars from an overpass while dressed like a pigeon
+2019-08-14 12:56:48 TechEmporium Assaulting officers while dressed as a kangaroo
+2019-08-14 12:57:40 TechEmporium If he did that in the Middle East, he'd be bitching to the human right's commission about being tortured by electric shocks & caning on his feet
+2019-08-14 12:58:19 southerntofu TechEmporium: which he is not because he is a white man in a white-supremacist colonial empire :)
+2019-08-14 12:58:36 TechEmporium lol
+2019-08-14 12:58:36 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-14 12:58:39 TechEmporium ,bef
+2019-08-14 12:58:39 BitBot [Ducks] TechEmporium befriended a duck in 2.67 seconds! You've befriended 4 ducks in #meta!
+2019-08-14 12:58:48 TechEmporium That was quack... I mean quick
+2019-08-14 12:59:40 southerntofu although i must admit being the french state does torture white militants
+2019-08-14 13:00:08 southerntofu but electricity torture and such haven't been targeted at the local population for at least two decades that i know of
+2019-08-14 13:00:42 krowbar that's unexpectantly not super comforting
+2019-08-14 13:02:03 truth hello meta
+2019-08-14 13:02:15 southerntofu the comforting part is electricity torture is awful, the less comforting part is they figured out other ways to crush opposition with and without physical violence
+2019-08-14 13:02:21 southerntofu hello truth
+2019-08-14 13:03:27 truth hi southerntofu
+2019-08-14 13:03:55 TechEmporium lol
+2019-08-14 13:05:31 TechEmporium Syria isn't the only Arab nation that uses torture... And as a matter of fact, Israel also isn't a "enlightened" as Europe when it comes to this issue either. Everyone in the Middle East tortures their prisoners with beatings, electrocutions, constant poisoning & antidotes from venomous insects/arachnids
+2019-08-14 13:05:56 TechEmporium And we still have Hamurabi's law & Draconian martial law
+2019-08-14 13:07:24 TechEmporium Look at Iran, for example; a jealous man might throw acid on the face of a woman & burn her. Iran follows Hamurabi's law; the woman now has the legal right to either demand life-long monetary compensation from her attacker (set by the court,) or else she or a relative of hers has the right to burn her attacker's face with acid under court supervision
+2019-08-14 13:08:08 krowbar while i recognize the word "draconian" modernly means "harse, severe, or oppressive" I like to sometimes interpret it with the root "of or from dragons"
+2019-08-14 13:08:37 TechEmporium I term Draconian law as the law created by the Greek tyrant Draco
+2019-08-14 13:08:46 TechEmporium Which was a form of strict martial law
+2019-08-14 13:08:47 krowbar this is also true
+2019-08-14 13:09:48 TechEmporium Israel has also been know to take underage prisoners from the Palestinian territories & put them in adult prisons, while giving them the same torture treatment from beatings, to using them as guinea pigs to test the effects of nuclear deuterium poisoning in the human diet
+2019-08-14 13:09:56 krowbar oh hey! wikipedia pledge drive is going again! make your donations!
+2019-08-14 13:10:16 TechEmporium As a matter of fact, that has also been extended to active-serving soldiers of Palestinian, Druse & Circassian descent
+2019-08-14 13:11:02 TechEmporium Then the world cries wolf over Syria detaining ISIL terrorists & beating the information out of them on who provides them their arms (i.e.: the US)
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+2019-08-14 14:14:20 * den brings own domain to tilde
+2019-08-14 14:14:47 krowbar some assembly required
+2019-08-14 14:15:03 krowbar but, like, not _assembly_
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+2019-08-14 14:43:07 ~khuxkm "Then the world cries wolf over Syria detaining ISIL terrorists & beating the information out of them on who provides them their arms (i.e.: the US)" wut
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+2019-08-14 14:45:02 ~khuxkm also what happened to meta while I was gone holy cow
+2019-08-14 14:50:19 TechEmporium lol
+2019-08-14 14:51:06 TechEmporium It's well known that most of the arms that were confiscated from ISIL dumps during Russian & Syrian army raids were American-made Colt AR-15 & similar ordinance
+2019-08-14 14:51:50 TechEmporium Yet, the world cries over Syria being the chief aggressor when it was ISIL who essentially hijacked the Arab Spring from the people's hands
+2019-08-14 14:56:26 southerntofu ^^^^ this
+2019-08-14 14:56:46 southerntofu imperialist powers have supported many islamist militias to fight against the regime AND the revolution
+2019-08-14 14:56:56 ~ben imperialism--
+2019-08-14 14:56:56 BitBot [Karma] imperialism now has -1 karma
+2019-08-14 14:59:52 TechEmporium And then the Americans wonder why every Arab in the Levant & Iraq that doesn't align itself with ISIL hates America, France, England & Israel. I wish IRC could allow for emoticons to show my eyes rolling over the political stupidity involved here
+2019-08-14 15:00:48 TechEmporium Especially when George Bush put Syria in the "Axis of Evil," while illegally detaining 2 Canadians & deporting them to Syrian prisons without charge on assumption that they were terrorists
+2019-08-14 15:01:31 TechEmporium And of course they were tortured via electrocution & caning, all condoned by the US, by authorities in a country that they declared were their enemies
+2019-08-14 15:01:32 ~ben here you go: 🙄
+2019-08-14 15:01:54 TechEmporium lol ANSI emoticons just appear as square blocks in my IRC client
+2019-08-14 15:02:03 southerntofu unicode power
+2019-08-14 15:02:07 southerntofu it works until it doesn't
+2019-08-14 15:02:27 TechEmporium lol
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+2019-08-14 15:03:10 southerntofu but for sure we should encourage proper unicode support in clients and fonts that handles this nicely by default
+2019-08-14 15:04:18 ~ben fix your unicode support then lol
+2019-08-14 15:06:28 southerntofu my font displays it nice :)
+2019-08-14 15:06:56 TechEmporium ben: It's HexChat on Windows 10 :P
+2019-08-14 15:06:57 krowbar i only display American letters
+2019-08-14 15:07:05 krowbar AMURKA!
+2019-08-14 15:07:07 ~ben :s
+2019-08-14 15:07:09 TechEmporium "American" letters lol
+2019-08-14 15:07:21 ~ben :o
+2019-08-14 15:07:33 krowbar i will claim an entire continent and an entire language simultaneously!
+2019-08-14 15:07:36 southerntofu TechEmporium: drop windows already we really need to find you a machine of your own so you can join in free software world :)
+2019-08-14 15:07:54 TechEmporium lol
+2019-08-14 15:08:13 TechEmporium krowbar: I thought American letters would at least be called Burger Runes or something
+2019-08-14 15:08:29 krowbar i think i can find some of that for you
+2019-08-14 15:09:00 krowbar would this serve? https://www.dafont.com/letters-in-circles.font
+2019-08-14 15:09:01 BitBot [Title] Letters in Circles Font | dafont.com - https://ttm.sh/Tp
+2019-08-14 15:09:28 TechEmporium I was thinking more along the lines of Wingdings lol
+2019-08-14 15:10:15 TechEmporium southerntofu: simply put, I use whatever I can use, that I know works well with the hardware on my laptop. I'm not going to go out of my way to wipe Windows 10 off of my laptop, especially after all I've pirated from it lol
+2019-08-14 15:10:44 TechEmporium Besides, I already subverted telemetry by running an open-source virus on it :P
+2019-08-14 15:10:55 southerntofu TechEmporium: link?
+2019-08-14 15:12:28 TechEmporium I'll private message it
+2019-08-14 15:27:57 den just setup disk for encrypted backups :))
+2019-08-14 15:28:12 den s/backups/personal backups
+2019-08-14 15:28:12 timemachine just setup disk for encrypted personal backups :))
+2019-08-14 15:33:12 den hi btw
+2019-08-14 15:34:17 den sorry but have to ask:
+2019-08-14 15:34:22 den openbsd vs freebsd?
+2019-08-14 15:34:39 ~ben they're both good
+2019-08-14 15:35:27 den i have a old computer
+2019-08-14 15:35:49 den and planning to just install xorg
+2019-08-14 15:35:49 TechEmporium Both are good & both support old computers out of the box
+2019-08-14 15:35:53 ~ben yup
+2019-08-14 15:35:54 den with some apps
+2019-08-14 15:36:04 ~ben do you want security or a mainstream bsd
+2019-08-14 15:36:44 den both
+2019-08-14 15:36:54 @cmccabe hi ben and den
+2019-08-14 15:36:57 den hi cmccabe
+2019-08-14 15:36:59 ~ben hey cmccabe
+2019-08-14 15:37:07 ~ben hapy humpdey
+2019-08-14 15:37:08 TechEmporium If you're using it for a standard desktop computer & want updated software on an old platform, use either of the two. A word of warning, though; if you use OpenBSD, you may have issues with your computer's file system if you don't have stable power
+2019-08-14 15:37:30 TechEmporium There are a few patches for the UFS file system for OpenBSD, though
+2019-08-14 15:37:41 den cmccabe: i replied your email
+2019-08-14 15:38:24 den im going to use them with i686 1gb computer
+2019-08-14 15:38:37 @cmccabe ok, i just saw that now
+2019-08-14 15:38:53 den great :)
+2019-08-14 15:39:11 den TechEmporium: which one you would choose if you have computer with these specs
+2019-08-14 15:39:26 den i dont need security by default i can secure it too
+2019-08-14 15:39:34 den or think that i secured it
+2019-08-14 15:39:40 ~ben probably freebsd then
+2019-08-14 15:39:51 den what about speed?
+2019-08-14 15:40:05 ~ben won't really be much different
+2019-08-14 15:40:17 den but...?
+2019-08-14 15:40:17 southerntofu den: you should really try openbsd without Xorg on your old hardware :)
+2019-08-14 15:40:27 den without xorg?
+2019-08-14 15:40:37 den without desktop enviorement also?
+2019-08-14 15:40:42 ~ben i was going to say that openbsd is slower on multicore processors since multithreading is disabled
+2019-08-14 15:40:44 den or are there any?
+2019-08-14 15:40:50 southerntofu well what are you gonna do graphical stuff with if you've got only 1gig ram?
+2019-08-14 15:40:58 den oh no difference then ben
+2019-08-14 15:41:02 den only firefox
+2019-08-14 15:41:06 den like i do now
+2019-08-14 15:41:20 den with lxde
+2019-08-14 15:42:07 southerntofu lynx browser? :P
+2019-08-14 15:42:15 den text-based browsers arent for me ://
+2019-08-14 15:42:23 ~tomasino lynx is sexy
+2019-08-14 15:42:31 den gopher better lol
+2019-08-14 15:42:39 ~tomasino gopher is the best!
+2019-08-14 15:42:44 den :))
+2019-08-14 15:42:57 den tomasino: thank you about gopherpedia :D
+2019-08-14 15:43:08 ~tomasino welcome!
+2019-08-14 15:43:19 * ben lynx gopher://gopher.black
+2019-08-14 15:43:21 ~tomasino gopher://gopher.black/1/places - many more goodies
+2019-08-14 15:44:44 den also do they support some bcmwl firmware?
+2019-08-14 15:44:58 den by default or during installation after installed on usb?
+2019-08-14 15:45:04 TechEmporium den: on older hardware, speed is trivvial. I'd go with FreeBSD, honestly
+2019-08-14 15:45:39 den what about compability?
+2019-08-14 15:45:51 den now idc about speed need compability
+2019-08-14 15:49:16 TechEmporium All the BSDs are compatible with each other, plus there are a lot of Linux ports & even a Linux compatibility layer in all the major BSDs
+2019-08-14 15:49:51 den lol raspberry pi 4 is probably better than my laptop
+2019-08-14 15:50:02 den i should buy it
+2019-08-14 15:50:54 TechEmporium lol
+2019-08-14 15:51:15 TechEmporium I wish I had a job so that I could put aside some money to buy the highest spec Pi4
+2019-08-14 15:51:38 Jacob How much are the pi4s going for?
+2019-08-14 15:52:05 den $80 in my country
+2019-08-14 15:52:12 den 4gb one
+2019-08-14 15:52:21 ~ben i have a feeling they're not in stock
+2019-08-14 15:52:37 Jacob 4gb is overkill, lol
+2019-08-14 15:52:50 ~ben is it though
+2019-08-14 15:52:57 den they are in stock
+2019-08-14 15:53:25 Jacob Found one for 75 w/ free shipping
+2019-08-14 15:54:02 den lol $80 one is with tax included
+2019-08-14 15:54:13 den weird didn't get it which is it that cheap
+2019-08-14 15:54:37 den for example iphone xs max starts from $2000
+2019-08-14 15:55:23 den a raspberry pi zero w is for 15$
+2019-08-14 15:55:23 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-14 15:55:24 ~ben ,bef
+2019-08-14 15:55:24 BitBot [Ducks] ben befriended a duck in 1.6 seconds! You've befriended 126 ducks in #meta!
+2019-08-14 15:55:25 den ,bef
+2019-08-14 15:55:25 BitBot [Ducks] den: There was no duck!
+2019-08-14 15:55:33 ~ben iphone--
+2019-08-14 15:55:33 BitBot [Karma] iphone now has -1 karma
+2019-08-14 15:55:39 den iphone--
+2019-08-14 15:55:39 BitBot [Karma] iphone now has -2 karma
+2019-08-14 15:55:43 Jacob den: You can get full kits of the pi zero w for like 20-30 dollars.
+2019-08-14 15:55:44 den linux++
+2019-08-14 15:55:44 BitBot [Karma] linux now has 1 karma
+2019-08-14 15:55:51 den bsd++
+2019-08-14 15:55:52 BitBot [Karma] bsd now has 1 karma
+2019-08-14 15:55:56 den sorry no spam
+2019-08-14 15:55:58 Jacob I can pick up a zero w here at a store for 10
+2019-08-14 15:56:11 den i hate taxes like everybody
+2019-08-14 15:56:13 den else
+2019-08-14 15:56:36 den ,w Jacob
+2019-08-14 15:56:36 BitBot [Weather] Jacob doesn't have a location set
+2019-08-14 15:56:45 Jacob lol
+2019-08-14 15:56:54 den i will travel there xd
+2019-08-14 15:57:00 Jacob Hang on, you might have one near you
+2019-08-14 15:57:07 den buy all rpi
+2019-08-14 15:57:12 den and come back
+2019-08-14 15:57:14 den and
+2019-08-14 15:57:16 den profit $$$
+2019-08-14 15:57:23 ~ben ,w
+2019-08-14 15:57:24 BitBot [Weather|ben] (Traverse City, Michigan, USA) 23C/75F | Scattered Clouds | Humidity: 53% | Wind: 14.8KMh/9.2MPh
+2019-08-14 15:57:40 Jacob https://www.microcenter.com/product/486575/zero-w
+2019-08-14 15:57:42 BitBot [Title] - https://ttm.sh/TA
+2019-08-14 15:57:46 Jacob They're only five dollars now
+2019-08-14 15:57:52 den how
+2019-08-14 15:57:55 Jacob That is, *if* you pick it up at the store
+2019-08-14 15:57:57 den international shipping?
+2019-08-14 15:58:11 Jacob It's 14.00 plug shipping otherwise
+2019-08-14 15:58:48 den just wow
+2019-08-14 15:59:07 Jacob I ought to go down there and get another one just because, lol
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+2019-08-14 15:59:41 Jacob They're selling the Pi 4 Model B with 2GB for 45
+2019-08-14 16:00:39 ~ben i'm super jealous that you live close to a micro center
+2019-08-14 16:01:23 Jacob There's three within a reasonable distance.
+2019-08-14 16:01:25 ~ben nearest one is a 4 hour drive
+2019-08-14 16:01:30 den and im super jealous you have micro center in your country
+2019-08-14 16:01:45 den *immigrant song*
+2019-08-14 16:02:11 den even they don't want me on their website lol
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+2019-08-14 16:02:15 ~ben :o
+2019-08-14 16:02:37 TechEmporium The worst part is that there are scalpers who bought Pi4s from Element 14 & are reselling them at $300 CAN
+2019-08-14 16:02:41 TechEmporium On Amazon
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+2019-08-14 16:03:20 den are there anyone preordered librem 5?
+2019-08-14 16:03:40 TechEmporium I haven't
+2019-08-14 16:04:21 ~ben ouch
+2019-08-14 16:05:31 den it seem expensive to me as an iphone user lol
+2019-08-14 16:05:36 den jk
+2019-08-14 16:08:16 den gtg
+2019-08-14 16:08:27 den bye o/
+2019-08-14 16:08:29 ~ben cheers
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+2019-08-14 16:35:42 ~ben ,bef
+2019-08-14 16:35:43 BitBot [Ducks] ben: There was no duck!
+2019-08-14 16:35:44 ~ben ,beg
+2019-08-14 16:35:44 BitBot [Echo] please oh please duck be mine
+2019-08-14 16:35:57 ~ben is that a setting Jacob
+2019-08-14 16:35:59 ~ben jesopo:
+2019-08-14 16:36:01 ~ben sorry
+2019-08-14 16:36:10 Jacob I'm awake!
+2019-08-14 16:36:10 jesopo hii
+2019-08-14 16:36:22 ~ben lol good thing!
+2019-08-14 16:36:24 jesopo yea it's an alias
+2019-08-14 16:36:27 * Jacob snores
+2019-08-14 16:36:28 ~ben ooo
+2019-08-14 16:36:32 * ben slep
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+2019-08-14 16:37:41 BitBot [Echo] pwease pwease duck be mine uwu
+2019-08-14 16:37:43 jesopo :3
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+2019-08-14 16:38:15 jesopo uhhh
+2019-08-14 16:38:19 ~ben uwu
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+2019-08-14 16:38:23 jesopo ther
+2019-08-14 16:38:27 jesopo i Thinm
+2019-08-14 16:38:29 jesopo think
+2019-08-14 16:38:33 jesopo silly robot
+2019-08-14 16:38:36 ~ben i thinm therefore i anm
+2019-08-14 16:38:43 ~ben :3
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+2019-08-14 17:09:31 praetor hehe
+2019-08-14 17:32:34 ~fosslinux ,beg
+2019-08-14 17:32:34 BitBot [Echo] pwease pwease duck be mine uwu
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+2019-08-14 18:47:40 TechEmporium lol
+2019-08-14 18:47:53 TechEmporium There should be a function to give a duck
+2019-08-14 18:48:13 TechEmporium There needs to be one
+2019-08-14 18:52:55 * praetor waves
+2019-08-14 18:55:27 --> hijackeel [hijackeel] (weechat) (~weechat@184-23-191-131.vpn.dynamic.sonic.net) has joined #meta
+2019-08-14 19:00:14 praetor I want a ducky
+2019-08-14 19:00:17 praetor ,beg
+2019-08-14 19:00:17 BitBot [Echo] pwease pwease duck be mine uwu
+2019-08-14 19:00:22 praetor :3
+2019-08-14 19:11:57 npa quack
+2019-08-14 19:14:14 TechEmporium Well, one of my buddies in MindFlare Retro's Discord server is starting a BBS server this weekend
+2019-08-14 19:14:38 TechEmporium He asked me to upload some files for him, so I managed to upload 2.65 GB worth of wares & chiptune music lol
+2019-08-14 19:14:49 TechEmporium With 440 MB to spare in disk quota
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+2019-08-14 19:40:41 praetor oh yummy!
+2019-08-14 19:41:32 TechEmporium lol
+2019-08-14 19:45:20 hijackeel what choonz
+2019-08-14 19:45:23 TechEmporium It's going to be fun. He's loading Tradewars & Legend of the Red Dragon
+2019-08-14 19:51:25 praetor let me know when he goes online. always like meeting new retro peeps
+2019-08-14 19:52:07 praetor warez :3 ARGH! IMMA PIRATE!
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+2019-08-14 20:04:12 npa where's ahriman been at
+2019-08-14 20:20:07 praetor I think he's been busy with family if I recall
+2019-08-14 20:35:36 npa ah okay
+2019-08-14 21:01:55 ~fosslinux Finally
+2019-08-14 21:02:08 ~fosslinux They've fixed the damn proxy so it's a captive portal thing noe
+2019-08-14 21:02:25 ~fosslinux Instead of an authentication thing on the proxy
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+2019-08-14 21:31:51 praetor who wha?
+2019-08-14 21:32:51 npa at his school
+2019-08-14 21:49:04 ~fosslinux yesh
+2019-08-14 21:49:17 ~fosslinux so now I can use SSH n a pkg manager etc
+2019-08-14 21:53:02 praetor ohes
+2019-08-14 21:53:38 robdrake Hello
+2019-08-14 21:55:33 npa hey robdrake
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+2019-08-14 22:15:13 robdrake back
+2019-08-14 22:15:28 robdrake had to get a new IV connector put in
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+2019-08-14 22:34:36 @cmccabe how's it going, robdrake
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+2019-08-14 22:38:05 robdrake ssdd
+2019-08-14 22:38:11 robdrake for a hospital
+2019-08-14 22:39:10 robdrake I swear the nurse I have has rocks for brains, and got his nurse's license from a cheap cereal box
+2019-08-14 22:39:52 robdrake Paperwork was more important to him than food for a diabetic who hadn't eaten all day due to a procedure
+2019-08-14 22:41:05 robdrake but enough bitching on my part
+2019-08-14 22:51:23 robdrake I'm going to go play Diablo 3
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+2019-08-14 22:58:14 ~fosslinux Damn splits
+2019-08-15 00:54:36 vantablack hey
+2019-08-15 00:54:37 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-15 00:54:43 vantablack taking a break from spiking my backpack
+2019-08-15 00:54:45 vantablack whaddup
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+2019-08-15 01:04:38 hijackeel ,bef
+2019-08-15 01:04:38 BitBot [Ducks] hijackeel befriended a duck in 601.85 seconds! You've befriended 2 ducks in #meta!
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+2019-08-15 01:32:02 npa 10 min duck, nice
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+2019-08-15 01:35:49 kirk781 npa, hello
+2019-08-15 01:36:25 npa hey kirk781
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+2019-08-15 02:57:10 den morning there
+2019-08-15 03:21:28 --> fosslinux [fosslinux] (fosslinux) (~fosslinux@oper.tilde.chat) has joined #meta
+2019-08-15 03:21:28 -- Mode #meta [+qo fosslinux fosslinux] by aussie.tilde.chat
+2019-08-15 03:21:42 den hey fosslinux
+2019-08-15 03:21:48 ~fosslinux ugh
+2019-08-15 03:21:54 den ~
+2019-08-15 03:21:56 ~fosslinux why does aussie keep splitting
+2019-08-15 03:22:42 ~fosslinux How goes den?
+2019-08-15 03:25:12 den fine
+2019-08-15 03:25:31 den yesterday made byod with contributors
+2019-08-15 03:25:34 den :)
+2019-08-15 03:25:44 den fosslinux: have you seen byod?
+2019-08-15 03:25:51 den https://tildegit.org/best/byod
+2019-08-15 03:25:52 BitBot [Title] best/byod: bring your own domain to tilde - byod - tildegit - https://ttm.sh/TP
+2019-08-15 03:25:54 ~fosslinux nope
+2019-08-15 03:26:17 den that was on tilde rfc drafts
+2019-08-15 03:26:23 den and i started doing it
+2019-08-15 03:26:27 den and others improved
+2019-08-15 03:27:46 ~fosslinux umh
+2019-08-15 03:27:50 ~fosslinux I see a problem
+2019-08-15 03:28:05 ~fosslinux you can't have multiple servers listening on port 80? Can you?
+2019-08-15 03:28:07 den can you create a issue or pull request directly?
+2019-08-15 03:28:11 den you can with vhost
+2019-08-15 03:28:17 den https://sandstorm.site
+2019-08-15 03:28:18 ~fosslinux but is this vhost?
+2019-08-15 03:28:19 BitBot [Title] 404 Not Found - https://ttm.sh/T_
+2019-08-15 03:28:28 den oh
+2019-08-15 03:29:02 den it is not working since i edited file on root
+2019-08-15 03:29:09 den but byod working on file owners
+2019-08-15 03:29:13 den lemme edit
+2019-08-15 03:29:31 ~fosslinux woop
+2019-08-15 03:29:39 ~fosslinux I'm wrong
+2019-08-15 03:29:49 ~fosslinux you can have multiple listen 80's
+2019-08-15 03:29:54 ~fosslinux ignore me ;)
+2019-08-15 03:30:32 den done
+2019-08-15 03:30:41 den https://sandstorm.site
+2019-08-15 03:30:45 den created file again
+2019-08-15 03:30:47 den and it works
+2019-08-15 03:31:11 den but still there are a few bugs on byod code
+2019-08-15 03:31:17 den on 'admin.sh'
+2019-08-15 03:31:28 den but i will solve these since they are not hard to solve
+2019-08-15 03:32:13 den done solved one
+2019-08-15 03:32:15 ~fosslinux ,w den
+2019-08-15 03:32:15 BitBot [Weather] den doesn't have a location set
+2019-08-15 03:32:21 den Istanbul :)
+2019-08-15 03:32:23 den ,w
+2019-08-15 03:32:23 BitBot [Weather] Please set location, e.g.: ,config u location London, GB
+2019-08-15 03:32:25 ~fosslinux :)
+2019-08-15 03:32:33 den ,config u location Istanbul, TR
+2019-08-15 03:32:33 BitBot [Config] Config 'location' set to {'timezone': 'Europe/Istanbul', 'lat': 41.0096334, 'lon': 28.9651646, 'name': 'Fatih, Istanbul, Marmara Region, Turkey'}
+2019-08-15 03:32:41 den ,w
+2019-08-15 03:32:41 BitBot [Weather|den] (Fatih, Istanbul, Marmara Region, Turkey) 25C/77F | Scattered Clouds | Humidity: 74% | Wind: 14.8KMh/9.2MPh
+2019-08-15 03:33:06 den fosslinux: would you like to use on your tilde :D
+2019-08-15 03:33:13 den ben doesn't
+2019-08-15 03:33:20 ~fosslinux y not?
+2019-08-15 03:33:30 ~fosslinux why dosent ben want to
+2019-08-15 03:33:37 den let me check
+2019-08-15 03:33:41 den he wrote it somewhere
+2019-08-15 03:33:41 ~fosslinux heh
+2019-08-15 03:35:30 den unable to find
+2019-08-15 03:35:32 den :D
+2019-08-15 03:35:39 den we can ask when he gets online
+2019-08-15 03:35:53 ~fosslinux Oh I found it #team
+2019-08-15 03:37:06 --> severak [severak] (Severak) (~severak@89.203.221.170) has joined #meta
+2019-08-15 03:37:10 den hi seven6543210
+2019-08-15 03:37:15 severak plop
+2019-08-15 03:37:22 den s/seven6543210/severak
+2019-08-15 03:37:22 timemachine hi severak
+2019-08-15 03:54:00 robdrake Hello #meta
+2019-08-15 03:54:44 ~fosslinux Hi robdrake
+2019-08-15 03:54:49 ~fosslinux How goes the dedi search
+2019-08-15 03:58:28 robdrake just waiting for my September money to get one
+2019-08-15 03:59:23 robdrake and depending on the new inheritance, will be hiring extra support from someone
+2019-08-15 03:59:51 robdrake at least while I get up to speed
+2019-08-15 04:05:14 robdrake ,time
+2019-08-15 04:05:15 BitBot [Time] Time for robdrake: 2019/08/15 03:05:14
+2019-08-15 04:05:28 robdrake ,time Kneezle
+2019-08-15 04:05:28 BitBot [Time] Time for Kneezle: 2019/08/15 11:05:28
+2019-08-15 04:05:47 ~Kneezle Poof
+2019-08-15 04:05:57 ~Kneezle ,w
+2019-08-15 04:05:57 BitBot [Weather|Kneezle] (Israel) 35C/95F | Clear Sky | Humidity: 13% | Wind: 6.3KMh/3.9MPh
+2019-08-15 04:06:15 ~fosslinux hiring extra support for your dedi?
+2019-08-15 04:06:17 robdrake Kneezle, ,time isn't working in #theasylu, when it was at least yesterday
+2019-08-15 04:06:20 ~fosslinux whomst from?
+2019-08-15 04:06:31 ~fosslinux robdrake: it is now
+2019-08-15 04:06:46 ~Kneezle Ask jesopo , she is God of bot
+2019-08-15 04:06:57 robdrake oh yeah, depr
+2019-08-15 04:07:00 ~Kneezle 😅
+2019-08-15 04:07:08 jesopo wha
+2019-08-15 04:07:14 robdrake hello jesopo
+2019-08-15 04:07:19 ~fosslinux It works
+2019-08-15 04:07:19 jesopo what u need :o
+2019-08-15 04:07:21 jesopo oh
+2019-08-15 04:07:31 ~fosslinux I literally just did it
+2019-08-15 04:07:39 jesopo fosslinux: he might mean on usairc
+2019-08-15 04:07:40 ~Kneezle 😂ðŸ˜
+2019-08-15 04:07:44 ~Kneezle Ohh
+2019-08-15 04:07:47 ~fosslinux o
+2019-08-15 04:07:48 ~Kneezle Yeah mebbie
+2019-08-15 04:07:48 robdrake for himself, but I couldn't and no, here
+2019-08-15 04:07:58 jesopo where?
+2019-08-15 04:08:11 robdrake #theasylum
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+2019-08-15 04:22:32 login ,coins
+2019-08-15 04:22:32 BitBot [Coins] login has 0.00 coins
+2019-08-15 04:22:36 login ,redeemcoins
+2019-08-15 04:22:36 BitBot [Coins] Redeemed 100.00 coins
+2019-08-15 04:22:54 den whats that lol
+2019-08-15 04:22:59 den ,redeemcoins
+2019-08-15 04:22:59 BitBot [Coins] Redeemed 100.00 coins
+2019-08-15 04:23:03 den ,coins
+2019-08-15 04:23:03 BitBot [Coins] den has 100.00 coins
+2019-08-15 04:23:10 den ,redeemcoins
+2019-08-15 04:23:10 BitBot [Coins] den: You can only redeem coins when you have none
+2019-08-15 04:23:44 robdrake ,help coins
+2019-08-15 04:23:44 BitBot [Help] coins: Show how many coins you have
+2019-08-15 04:24:23 robdrake ,flip tails 100
+2019-08-15 04:24:23 BitBot [Coins] robdrake flips tails and loses 100.00 coins! (new total: 731.00)
+2019-08-15 04:24:31 robdrake ,flip tails 100
+2019-08-15 04:24:32 BitBot [Coins] robdrake flips tails and loses 100.00 coins! (new total: 631.00)
+2019-08-15 04:24:37 robdrake ouch
+2019-08-15 04:28:34 den ,flip tails 100
+2019-08-15 04:28:34 BitBot [Coins] den flips tails and loses 100.00 coins! (new total: 0.00)
+2019-08-15 04:28:37 den lol
+2019-08-15 04:28:40 den ,redeemcoins
+2019-08-15 04:28:40 BitBot [Coins] den: Please wait 4m 19s before redeeming
+2019-08-15 04:28:44 login hey den
+2019-08-15 04:28:48 den hi login
+2019-08-15 04:28:50 login hi
+2019-08-15 04:29:01 login BitBot coins get created out of gambling
+2019-08-15 04:29:04 login ,richest
+2019-08-15 04:29:05 BitBot [Coins] Richest users: epoch (10,000.00), fosslinux (9,100.00), multiplexd (1,700.00), khuxkm (902.00), robdrake (631.00), aewens (452.00), ben (452.00), slipyx (452.00), ubergeek (250.00), ahriman (100.00)
+2019-08-15 04:29:18 den ,poorest
+2019-08-15 04:29:21 login you can only gamble the first 100 coins you get (from redeem coins)
+2019-08-15 04:29:21 ~fosslinux guys
+2019-08-15 04:29:27 ~fosslinux botspam into #bots
+2019-08-15 04:29:28 login hi fosslinux
+2019-08-15 04:29:31 den oh im unlucky
+2019-08-15 04:29:33 den sorry fosslinux
+2019-08-15 04:29:34 login it's not spam though
+2019-08-15 04:29:37 l4p1n hi fosslinux
+2019-08-15 04:29:38 den and yep
+2019-08-15 04:29:41 ~fosslinux all good
+2019-08-15 04:29:43 den hi l4p1n
+2019-08-15 04:30:03 login and any coins you win above 100, you can send to others
+2019-08-15 04:30:07 login i can show you on bots, den
+2019-08-15 04:30:12 login hi l4p1n
+2019-08-15 04:30:25 den hey then can someone send me a 100
+2019-08-15 04:30:32 den and watch it become 10000 lol
+2019-08-15 04:30:39 ~fosslinux login: yeah it is :) there is a lot of spam to the bot and no talking heh
+2019-08-15 04:30:40 l4p1n how are you all doin this mornin?
+2019-08-15 04:30:44 ~fosslinux that's my definition of botspam
+2019-08-15 04:30:49 ~fosslinux l4p1n hi
+2019-08-15 04:30:52 den actually we talk
+2019-08-15 04:30:58 login you can, den
+2019-08-15 04:31:09 den i just spend my 100
+2019-08-15 04:31:24 den i mean lose them :D
+2019-08-15 04:31:26 login you can spend your first 100 (that you redeemed) on gambling
+2019-08-15 04:31:36 login and if you win, the excess above 100 can be spent
+2019-08-15 04:31:49 den ,coins
+2019-08-15 04:31:49 BitBot [Coins] den has 0.00 coins
+2019-08-15 04:31:55 login if you have less than 100 (say, if you gambled 50 coins and lost), you can't send any
+2019-08-15 04:31:59 login you can ,redeemcoins every 10 minutes
+2019-08-15 04:32:09 den yep 3m remaining for me i guess
+2019-08-15 04:32:12 den ,redeemcoins
+2019-08-15 04:32:12 BitBot [Coins] den: Please wait 47s before redeeming
+2019-08-15 04:32:16 login the more you play, the dearer the coin should get (because gambling is a negative-sum game)
+2019-08-15 04:32:35 den what about playing chess? :)
+2019-08-15 04:32:38 --> noone6 (noone) (~noone@172.98.67.49) has joined #meta
+2019-08-15 04:32:50 login i wish there were a chess game with tildecoin on the line
+2019-08-15 04:32:51 den ,redeemcoins
+2019-08-15 04:32:52 BitBot [Coins] den: Please wait 8s before redeeming
+2019-08-15 04:32:55 login but it would be too hard for me to creat
+2019-08-15 04:33:02 den ,redeemcoins
+2019-08-15 04:33:03 BitBot [Coins] Redeemed 100.00 coins
+2019-08-15 04:33:06 login like fosslinux said, it would be better for their sake to play on #bots
+2019-08-15 04:33:09 login /join #bots, den
+2019-08-15 04:33:14 den k
+2019-08-15 04:35:07 ~fosslinux login: that would be so cool
+2019-08-15 04:36:38 login yeah, and you could charge a fee too
+2019-08-15 04:36:53 login in tildecoin, and make it "an online tildecoin business"
+2019-08-15 04:38:19 login or, you could take a 'rake' from the winnings
+2019-08-15 04:38:21 -- noone6 is now known as noone
+2019-08-15 04:38:22 login (10% of the winnings)
+2019-08-15 04:38:36 -- noone (~noone@172.98.67.49) has changed host to ~noone@1005BDD09E988931B2254A1E5D2D2D22ECE64669.PGP
+2019-08-15 04:40:10 southerntofu fosslinux: of course you can, you just can have maximum one default_server per interface/port ):
+2019-08-15 04:40:18 ~fosslinux ?
+2019-08-15 04:41:20 southerntofu nginx listen directives :)
+2019-08-15 04:41:28 southerntofu good morning #meta :)
+2019-08-15 04:42:34 robdrake Hello southerntofu
+2019-08-15 04:42:59 southerntofu hello robdrake how are you? have you got your food somehow? :)
+2019-08-15 04:42:59 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-15 04:43:02 southerntofu ,ef
+2019-08-15 04:43:02 BitBot southerntofu: Unknown command. Did you mean ,bef?
+2019-08-15 04:43:06 southerntofu ,bef
+2019-08-15 04:43:06 BitBot [Ducks] southerntofu befriended a duck in 6.69 seconds! You've befriended 3 ducks in #meta!
+2019-08-15 04:43:09 southerntofu lol
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+2019-08-15 04:59:12 den hey southerntofu
+2019-08-15 05:06:25 southerntofu hey den
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+2019-08-15 08:16:45 kirk781 ,np
+2019-08-15 08:16:47 BitBot [last.fm] kirk781 is listening to: Van der Graaf Generator - Scorched Earth - Live, 2005 Leverkusen (1 play) - https://youtu.be/PZhUqpQoCvA
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+2019-08-15 08:43:31 krowbar hey ho, y'all duck petters
+2019-08-15 08:44:08 krowbar how goes today?
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+2019-08-15 08:50:19 den ,w login
+2019-08-15 08:50:20 BitBot [Weather] login doesn't have a location set
+2019-08-15 08:50:22 * krowbar pats BitBot
+2019-08-15 08:50:29 krowbar ,w
+2019-08-15 08:50:29 BitBot [Weather|krowbar] (Pinckney, US) 17C/64F | Moderate Rain | Humidity: 88% | Wind: 9.4KMh/5.8MPh
+2019-08-15 08:50:35 den ,w
+2019-08-15 08:50:35 BitBot [Weather|den] (Fatih, Istanbul, Marmara Region, Turkey) 27C/80F | Scattered Clouds | Humidity: 62% | Wind: 33.5KMh/20.8MPh
+2019-08-15 08:54:52 krowbar den: not constantinople?
+2019-08-15 08:55:16 krowbar btw, are you familiar with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95mSdbGWK6w ?
+2019-08-15 08:55:20 BitBot [Youtube] They Might Be Giants - Instanbul (Not Constantinople) May 24, 2013 (03:30) uploaded by Shawn Dowler, 26,269 views (594↑↓5) https://youtu.be/95mSdbGWK6w
+2019-08-15 08:55:23 login I would never have guessed istanbul
+2019-08-15 08:55:29 login internet is wonderful
+2019-08-15 08:55:39 kirk781 ,w
+2019-08-15 08:55:39 BitBot [Weather|kirk781] (Kharagpur, West Bengal, India) 31C/89F | Overcast Clouds | Humidity: 66% | Wind: 11.9KMh/7.4MPh
+2019-08-15 08:55:50 kirk781 den, you are in Istanbul?
+2019-08-15 08:55:57 krowbar i really like how our tildes are so international
+2019-08-15 08:56:10 login Pinckney, US; Istanbul, Turkey; Kharagpur, West Bengal, India
+2019-08-15 08:56:11 kirk781 Accuweather sucks. They were showing a SEVEN percent of chance of rain when it was RAINING
+2019-08-15 08:56:25 login Accuweather would get ravaged on the stock market
+2019-08-15 08:56:33 login with those kinds of predictions
+2019-08-15 08:56:39 login are you sure it was your area or the general rea?
+2019-08-15 08:56:42 login *general area
+2019-08-15 08:57:00 login they're better at predicting wrong than being unpredictable
+2019-08-15 08:57:04 southerntofu well it's hard to figure hether it's raining from your computer's desk )
+2019-08-15 08:57:12 login true :)
+2019-08-15 08:57:28 login i wonder if someone from 200 years before saw what computers are like today
+2019-08-15 08:57:34 login whether they'd be like "i knew it!"
+2019-08-15 08:57:37 login especially ada lovelace
+2019-08-15 08:57:49 login (née byron)
+2019-08-15 08:58:02 login What a time to be alive!
+2019-08-15 08:58:13 login So much opportunity, so much competition
+2019-08-15 08:58:41 login , so much institutionalised inequality that some can live like kings/queens while others are scraping by (all legally!!!)
+2019-08-15 08:58:55 login i wonder if there's a trust-fund kid on here or not
+2019-08-15 08:59:18 login just had to have bought bitcoins for fun in 2008-2011
+2019-08-15 08:59:22 login and sell out now
+2019-08-15 08:59:25 login instant trust fund
+2019-08-15 08:59:44 login can live on interest alone (although fixed deposit interest rates never beat inflation)
+2019-08-15 08:59:52 southerntofu you mean a person profiting without working? (through private property)
+2019-08-15 08:59:59 southerntofu ah yes
+2019-08-15 09:00:24 southerntofu we have a word for that in french "rentier/rentière"
+2019-08-15 09:00:26 login "investment income" = profiting through private ownership of shares/assets
+2019-08-15 09:00:44 login yup, that's the word
+2019-08-15 09:00:46 southerntofu funny how the english language doesn't have a word for those
+2019-08-15 09:01:10 login in english, it's just called rentier
+2019-08-15 09:01:23 southerntofu is it? interesting
+2019-08-15 09:01:24 login rente in french means dividend apparently
+2019-08-15 09:01:27 login google says so
+2019-08-15 09:01:33 login and google is the protogod
+2019-08-15 09:01:35 southerntofu (my dictionary said « person of independant means »)
+2019-08-15 09:01:47 login that's a pretty euphemistic way of puttin git
+2019-08-15 09:01:50 login *putting it
+2019-08-15 09:01:59 * southerntofu puts git in the oven.
+2019-08-15 09:02:04 login google says, a person living on income from property or investments
+2019-08-15 09:02:50 login funny thing about being a rentier, is that if everyone was one, it doesn't work
+2019-08-15 09:02:58 login but if everyone grew food, things still work out
+2019-08-15 09:03:12 login (if productivity is only high enough to maintain subsistence farming)
+2019-08-15 09:03:19 southerntofu yes, that's a special property of the bourgeois class that they cannot form a society on their own
+2019-08-15 09:03:38 login Definitely needs to be an article. The bourgeois class cannot form a society on their own
+2019-08-15 09:03:43 southerntofu because they're so disconnected from everything and live off the backs of actual workers
+2019-08-15 09:03:46 login can the proletariat though?
+2019-08-15 09:03:46 Fessus Everyone growing their own food is massively inefficient
+2019-08-15 09:03:57 login it's done in india
+2019-08-15 09:04:05 Fessus not something to strive for
+2019-08-15 09:04:12 login well, not everyone, but a huge portion of the population is into subsistence agriculture
+2019-08-15 09:04:14 southerntofu Fessus: you mean on an individual basis? maybe. but food coops are the most efficient food production mechanis
+2019-08-15 09:04:18 login more than you'd expect
+2019-08-15 09:04:31 login growing food is so tough
+2019-08-15 09:04:38 login why would anyone do it?
+2019-08-15 09:05:00 kirk781 login, it WAS done in INdia
+2019-08-15 09:05:13 kirk781 It also used to be the case in China back in Mao's days
+2019-08-15 09:05:18 login since the buyers of food in wholesale are exceedingly monopsonies
+2019-08-15 09:05:23 -- robdrake is now known as bot001
+2019-08-15 09:05:24 login the prices are somewhat depressed
+2019-08-15 09:05:27 login hi rob
+2019-08-15 09:05:30 login i mean, bot001
+2019-08-15 09:05:35 southerntofu login: because it's cheap, it's good for your health if you don't do it as a full-time job (that would break your back), and you get to eat etter foods?
+2019-08-15 09:06:13 login Labour force by occupation
+2019-08-15 09:06:15 login Agriculture: 47%
+2019-08-15 09:06:17 login Industry: 22%
+2019-08-15 09:06:19 login Services: 31%
+2019-08-15 09:06:21 login from wikipedia, 2014
+2019-08-15 09:06:48 Fessus again, high labor force in agriculture is not a positive thing. It implies there are not better opportunities
+2019-08-15 09:07:15 southerntofu Fessus: it depends
+2019-08-15 09:07:33 Fessus Not typically
+2019-08-15 09:07:51 southerntofu first ecause many other jobs are not better opportunities (maybe on an individual level they are, but usually not for the environment/society)
+2019-08-15 09:07:59 -- bot001 is now known as robdrake
+2019-08-15 09:08:06 southerntofu but also because as i said you don't have to farm all year long to feed yourself
+2019-08-15 09:08:17 -- robdrake is now known as bot001
+2019-08-15 09:08:21 southerntofu if the work is shared amongst the commune then it's not work for anyody anymore
+2019-08-15 09:08:36 southerntofu you just do your part like a half day per week
+2019-08-15 09:08:40 login well, Fessus is partially right
+2019-08-15 09:08:51 login a huge huge portion of india's population don't have better opportunities
+2019-08-15 09:09:00 login and even if some of the pipeline is fixed (education for example)
+2019-08-15 09:09:11 login it'll cause a massive amount of brain drain ("everyone wants to get out of india")
+2019-08-15 09:09:18 kirk781 India could do with some population reduction
+2019-08-15 09:09:29 login that's what narendra modi was saying right?
+2019-08-15 09:09:33 Fessus A new combine harvester costs $400,000 but can do the work of hundreds of workers. This only makes sense if you have a very large operation. Sustenance farming has very small volume per operation and therefore individual productivity is always low
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+2019-08-15 09:09:37 login a small family is also a form of patriotism
+2019-08-15 09:09:46 kirk781 The irony that developed economies like Japan and Inferior Korea have an ageing population while people keep pumping babies in
+2019-08-15 09:09:49 login india's population could do with more fulfilled potential
+2019-08-15 09:10:01 kirk781 login, Modi isn't exactly much on population control
+2019-08-15 09:10:08 southerntofu Fessus: i'm sorry i don't want to offend you but you seem to know very little about agriculture
+2019-08-15 09:10:20 kirk781 login, in fact, India used to avg five babies per couple in the British days
+2019-08-15 09:10:26 login india has enough land only for small parcels per person
+2019-08-15 09:10:34 kirk781 In closed village communities here, there is almost social pressure to have babies
+2019-08-15 09:10:44 kirk781 That's why I dislike the utopia village concept Gandhi had
+2019-08-15 09:10:47 login What's Inferior Korea?
+2019-08-15 09:10:52 southerntofu permaculture techniques allow you to get average same productivity as industrial farming (or slightly less)
+2019-08-15 09:10:54 kirk781 login, South Korea :p
+2019-08-15 09:10:55 login kirk781: ias or no?
+2019-08-15 09:11:06 kirk781 login, Since we all know that North Korea is Best KOrea :p
+2019-08-15 09:11:16 login The Democratic People's Republic of Korea is the more democratic one right? at least, according to the name
+2019-08-15 09:11:21 -- bot001 is now known as robdrake
+2019-08-15 09:11:28 Fessus southerntofu, that is absolutely untrue
+2019-08-15 09:11:35 robdrake sorry for all the nick spam
+2019-08-15 09:11:54 southerntofu but when you account for the soil's empoverishment by use of nitrates and breaking the soil (ploughing) then over time you realize you get actually better productivity because industrial farming just doesn't work anymore
+2019-08-15 09:11:55 login Gandhi himself couldn't live the utopia village concept
+2019-08-15 09:12:00 login he studied law in south africa lol
+2019-08-15 09:12:38 login there's no financing for industrial farming in india
+2019-08-15 09:12:43 krowbar seems #politics is bleeding into #meta
+2019-08-15 09:12:46 southerntofu Fessus: prove me (and the thousands of agronomists who agree) wrong
+2019-08-15 09:12:49 login too many people on too few parcels of land
+2019-08-15 09:12:58 login cheaper to have people break backs instead of machine
+2019-08-15 09:13:07 login even if minimum wage legislated, will be hard to enforce
+2019-08-15 09:13:17 login institutions don't work the way they should, shortcuts for wealthy
+2019-08-15 09:13:32 Fessus southerntofu, https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/chart-gallery/gallery/chart-detail/?chartId=63405
+2019-08-15 09:13:35 BitBot [Title] USDA ERS - Chart Detail - https://ttm.sh/TG
+2019-08-15 09:13:47 Fessus agricultural productivity continues to improve
+2019-08-15 09:14:06 login country's individuals will choose 6 for themselves and 4 for everyone else instead of 10 for themselves and 11 for everyone else
+2019-08-15 09:14:34 login all the naive kids learn their lessons very soon
+2019-08-15 09:14:57 login why is farming #politics?
+2019-08-15 09:15:28 login Malthus's dilemma never happened right?
+2019-08-15 09:15:28 kirk781 login, In his later life, he did start spinning and starting to really love the village lifestyle
+2019-08-15 09:15:39 login oh wait, it's called Malthus's catastrophe
+2019-08-15 09:15:52 southerntofu Fessus: i'm sorry ut i won't trust gov/industry stats when researchers and actual farmers disagree with the propaganda
+2019-08-15 09:15:52 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-15 09:15:57 southerntofu just ask your farmer friends
+2019-08-15 09:15:59 Fessus ah
+2019-08-15 09:15:59 southerntofu ,bef
+2019-08-15 09:15:59 BitBot [Ducks] southerntofu befriended a duck in 6.98 seconds! You've befriended 4 ducks in #meta!
+2019-08-15 09:16:12 Fessus lol
+2019-08-15 09:16:15 Fessus i did
+2019-08-15 09:16:23 Fessus I work with ag people all the time
+2019-08-15 09:16:27 southerntofu industrial farming requires every year an ever more ipressive amount of chemicals to grow always less food
+2019-08-15 09:16:38 login as soon as you go to india, you find that there's a lack of collective accountability
+2019-08-15 09:16:48 southerntofu these nation-wide stats work out because many lands are newly-farmed
+2019-08-15 09:16:55 southerntofu but give it 30 years and the soil will be dead
+2019-08-15 09:16:57 login they're surprised when they go to germany and find everyone following the rules for example
+2019-08-15 09:17:12 login especially on the road ;)
+2019-08-15 09:17:20 southerntofu here in France we see it particularly because the agro lobby has been really strong since WWII
+2019-08-15 09:17:25 login you give an indicator, and everyone makes a space for you automatically
+2019-08-15 09:17:38 southerntofu (but i guess it's true in other places)
+2019-08-15 09:17:46 login the foreigner is flabbergasted when they see that happen to them
+2019-08-15 09:17:58 login and an intense feeling of guilt washes over them eventually when they go back
+2019-08-15 09:18:12 login they realise why their country hasn't progressed
+2019-08-15 09:18:14 Fessus southerntofu, total agriculture land has not changed much https://www.ers.usda.gov/webdocs/charts/85927/deember17_data_feature_bigelow_fig01.png?v=4991
+2019-08-15 09:18:48 Fessus not that I can convince you if you're willing to ignore any evidence I present because it came from the government
+2019-08-15 09:19:06 login how has productivity improved so much
+2019-08-15 09:19:14 login how can people make plants grow like this
+2019-08-15 09:19:15 southerntofu Fessus: you seem correct on this, i wouldn't know specifics about the US (i was merely assuming)
+2019-08-15 09:19:16 Fessus better farming techniques
+2019-08-15 09:19:28 login are monsanto doing farming research?
+2019-08-15 09:19:33 login on farming techniques?
+2019-08-15 09:19:36 Fessus yes, tones
+2019-08-15 09:19:38 southerntofu but also we're not exactly comparing the same things
+2019-08-15 09:19:46 login but farming technique would be IP right?
+2019-08-15 09:19:48 login how would they monetise that?
+2019-08-15 09:19:53 southerntofu comparing productivity over time means comparing tradditional farming with industrial farming
+2019-08-15 09:20:00 den hi
+2019-08-15 09:20:07 southerntofu while i was specifically comparing permaculture with industrial farming
+2019-08-15 09:20:10 den ssh from my iphone with broken screwn
+2019-08-15 09:20:19 login does your iphone have mosh (joking)
+2019-08-15 09:20:31 southerntofu (permaculture finds its roots in traditional cultures but applieds scientific methods which did not exist back then)
+2019-08-15 09:20:53 den i have alpine linux on my phone
+2019-08-15 09:21:33 southerntofu anyway i know my friends who do industrial farming are all having a very bad time with drought and improductivity and plant sickness/parasites
+2019-08-15 09:22:03 southerntofu while my friends in permaculture are completely ignored by this, and many scientists seem to agree there's actual reasons to explain this (notaly in regards to the humus)
+2019-08-15 09:22:17 southerntofu s/ignored/unaffected/
+2019-08-15 09:22:17 timemachine while my friends in permaculture are completely unaffected by this, and many scientists seem to agree there's actual reasons to explain this (notaly in regards to the humus)
+2019-08-15 09:23:20 kirk781 den, How much time did it take to do it?
+2019-08-15 09:23:27 southerntofu but i guess we can't convince each other, the future will tell us :)
+2019-08-15 09:23:46 Fessus southerntofu, sounds like a plan
+2019-08-15 09:24:08 login if what you say is true, southerntofu, food is about to get very expensive over the next 30 yars
+2019-08-15 09:24:10 login *years
+2019-08-15 09:24:21 southerntofu login: that's precisely what all experts in europe are warning about
+2019-08-15 09:24:23 ~ubergeek login: it will
+2019-08-15 09:24:31 login so expensive, that many of us will not be able to afford it no matter where we worked at our level
+2019-08-15 09:24:44 southerntofu login: yes the wage slaves will starve
+2019-08-15 09:24:47 login which will affect the pay of those who would otherwise be able to afford it
+2019-08-15 09:24:48 ~ubergeek as massive forest forest kick into gear, and temperatures change dramatically, food prices will soar
+2019-08-15 09:25:02 ~ubergeek forest-fires
+2019-08-15 09:25:07 ~ben krowbar++
+2019-08-15 09:25:07 BitBot [Karma] krowbar now has 2 karma
+2019-08-15 09:25:09 login which will cause the normlings like us to be transitioned into calorie-rich, "filling" food
+2019-08-15 09:25:21 ~ubergeek Good news is I'll be able to grow coffee at my house :)
+2019-08-15 09:25:22 ~ben just saw the istanbul not constantinople link :3
+2019-08-15 09:25:24 login while real food will only be available to the millionaires (with inflated currency)
+2019-08-15 09:25:35 login is istanbul constantinopole?
+2019-08-15 09:25:36 ~ubergeek Soylent green
+2019-08-15 09:25:38 login old name?
+2019-08-15 09:25:38 southerntofu it's hard to predict
+2019-08-15 09:25:49 ~ben goob mornign
+2019-08-15 09:25:50 southerntofu but chaos and injustice is what's ahead of us if we insist on capitalism
+2019-08-15 09:25:56 southerntofu morning ben :)
+2019-08-15 09:25:58 login i'm hoping vertical farming will be solved by then
+2019-08-15 09:26:06 login or somehow, creating artificial soil will start working
+2019-08-15 09:26:10 ~ubergeek define: solved
+2019-08-15 09:26:17 southerntofu login: that's not very bright ^^
+2019-08-15 09:26:26 login vertical farming not bright?
+2019-08-15 09:26:26 ~ubergeek I mean, there's great techniques for vertical farming, today
+2019-08-15 09:26:37 southerntofu there's plenty of surface to grow food on
+2019-08-15 09:26:37 login i remember's google's x division tried it and couldn't get it to work
+2019-08-15 09:26:39 * ubergeek does a bit of vert farming right now
+2019-08-15 09:26:42 ~ben ,wi istanbul
+2019-08-15 09:26:43 BitBot [Wikipedia] Istanbul: Istanbul (, also US: ; Turkish: İstanbul [isˈtanbuɫ] (listen)), formerly known as Byzantium and Constantinople, is the most populous city in Turkey and the country's economic, cultural and historic center. Istanbul is a transcontinental city in Eurasia, straddling the Bosporus strait (which separates Europe and Asia) between the Sea of Marmara and the Black Sea. Its commercial and histo (more...)
+2019-08-15 09:26:49 ~ben login: ^
+2019-08-15 09:27:04 login Byzantium is where the Byzantine Generals Problem's name comes from?
+2019-08-15 09:27:06 southerntofu we just need to decentralize society, not try to make megacities survive while their model doesn't work out
+2019-08-15 09:27:11 ~ben byzantine empire
+2019-08-15 09:27:19 ~ubergeek My fence is where I grow my lettuce right now, for example
+2019-08-15 09:27:20 login but megacities are superconveninet
+2019-08-15 09:27:26 southerntofu i mean you can try but i see no future in that, personally.
+2019-08-15 09:27:29 login on your fence? that's cool!
+2019-08-15 09:27:40 ~ubergeek yeah.
+2019-08-15 09:27:52 login don't worry, the earth has a way of correcting itself one way or another
+2019-08-15 09:27:57 southerntofu ubergeek: sure but usually vertical farming involved high buildings, otherwise it's just standard farming ^^
+2019-08-15 09:28:13 login we've had so many financial crises, but not one biological acute crisis in the recent past
+2019-08-15 09:28:23 ~ubergeek I have planters installed on the fence (Rows of them)
+2019-08-15 09:28:57 login what are planters?
+2019-08-15 09:29:03 ~ubergeek I've been looking at possible switching to chain link, though, so I can try to do lettuce + grapes, in the same area.
+2019-08-15 09:29:21 login what's chain link
+2019-08-15 09:29:40 southerntofu login: https://homeguides.sfgate.com/plant-along-chain-fence-25346.html
+2019-08-15 09:29:41 BitBot [Title] How to Plant Along a Chain Link Fence | Home Guides | SF Gate - https://ttm.sh/TK
+2019-08-15 09:29:55 ~ubergeek login: like these, but less fancy: https://www.homedepot.com/p/Veradek-Window-Box-9-in-W-x-25-in-H-Black-Rectangular-Plastic-Planter-WBV25B/205010323
+2019-08-15 09:29:58 BitBot [Title] Access Denied - https://ttm.sh/Tz
+2019-08-15 09:30:22 ~ubergeek and chainlink is https://www.hooverfence.com/mas_assets/cache/image/1/3/2/d/78545.Jpg
+2019-08-15 09:30:23 southerntofu BitBot: why are you banned from homedepot? :(
+2019-08-15 09:33:57 trinary southerntofu: Could be a EU filter
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+2019-08-15 09:43:08 ~ben :s
+2019-08-15 09:43:56 southerntofu trinary: in regards to how well industrial agriculture fares?
+2019-08-15 09:46:28 trinary southerntofu: No, the "banned from homedepot" thing
+2019-08-15 09:46:37 trinary Also appears blocked in Germany and Brazil
+2019-08-15 09:46:45 southerntofu ah :)
+2019-08-15 09:47:36 npa hm, not banned in AU weirdly enough
+2019-08-15 09:52:48 echelon they block people from visiting homedepot.com on a country filter?
+2019-08-15 09:52:48 echelon tf
+2019-08-15 09:52:51 echelon murica.
+2019-08-15 09:52:57 ~ben murica--
+2019-08-15 09:52:57 BitBot [Karma] murica now has -1 karma
+2019-08-15 09:54:04 Fessus echelon, no EU locations = no reason to redesign site to be GDPR compliant
+2019-08-15 09:54:32 echelon so site admin laziness?
+2019-08-15 09:54:44 Fessus high cost, no return
+2019-08-15 09:54:51 southerntofu Fessus: no EU service != banning EU addresses from accessing your website
+2019-08-15 09:55:01 echelon i have to make all of my sites eu-compliant since i host all my shit in the EU
+2019-08-15 09:55:01 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-15 09:55:03 echelon Finland and Germany
+2019-08-15 09:55:05 southerntofu ,bef
+2019-08-15 09:55:05 BitBot [Ducks] southerntofu befriended a duck in 4.28 seconds! You've befriended 5 ducks in #meta!
+2019-08-15 09:55:49 southerntofu since homedepot doesn't do any business in europe they can keep their website they are not concerned by EU law
+2019-08-15 09:56:22 Fessus GDPR might not even be the reason for the block unless it says so. I was just guessing
+2019-08-15 09:56:40 echelon Fessus it makes the most sense
+2019-08-15 09:56:45 southerntofu no idea either
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+2019-08-15 10:20:46 TechEmporium Wait what?
+2019-08-15 10:21:16 TechEmporium What's that about Home Depot's website being protested against by GDPR proponents?
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+2019-08-15 10:22:05 southerntofu nope
+2019-08-15 10:22:18 southerntofu the story is hmedepot blocks some IP ranges
+2019-08-15 10:22:25 TechEmporium Ah
+2019-08-15 10:22:40 * southerntofu is downloading plenty of DIY hip hop :D
+2019-08-15 10:22:49 TechEmporium Well, they are a multi-national, but they're mostly within the bounds of North America
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+2019-08-15 10:23:42 TechEmporium And the thing is a lot of sites (including my own server) get attacked from IP ranges coming from the Phillipines, India, China, Russia & South America
+2019-08-15 10:23:58 southerntofu and that's why you got fail2ban
+2019-08-15 10:24:07 southerntofu because if you start banning IP ranges you can never stop
+2019-08-15 10:24:20 southerntofu a resourceful attcker will just rent IP space from elsewhere to attack you
+2019-08-15 10:24:35 southerntofu so only unresourceful attackers do that kind of brute force attacks
+2019-08-15 10:25:41 TechEmporium Then again, if we're talking about a business that only operates within Mexico, the US & Canada, why would you want to receive spam in a language you can't understand like Tagalog, or written in an alphabet you can't read like Cyrillic or Hindi?
+2019-08-15 10:25:55 echelon lol southerntofu
+2019-08-15 10:26:04 TechEmporium That's why American multinationals just ban the entire nation
+2019-08-15 10:26:41 southerntofu because many people from many different reasons have a "foreign" IP address :-/
+2019-08-15 10:26:44 echelon and TechEmporium i have an attack once a minute
+2019-08-15 10:26:47 echelon people trying to brute force
+2019-08-15 10:26:54 TechEmporium Exactly
+2019-08-15 10:27:01 echelon mostly from Chinese IPs
+2019-08-15 10:27:02 TechEmporium So do I, even with fail2ban up
+2019-08-15 10:27:06 TechEmporium Yup
+2019-08-15 10:27:10 echelon but i caught a DigitalOcean and an OVH block earlier
+2019-08-15 10:27:13 TechEmporium For me, it's mostly Chinese & Russian
+2019-08-15 10:27:27 southerntofu (we have the problem with France Télévisions restricting their sreaming to french ip space, but then a lot of french citizens in the colonies / overseas territories don't have a french IP
+2019-08-15 10:27:35 TechEmporium And Campari, the owner of DevilShells
+2019-08-15 10:28:07 TechEmporium Right, southerntofu; each colony has its own station because of how remote they are
+2019-08-15 10:28:23 TechEmporium Otherwise, they have to piggyback on surrounding nations for other services
+2019-08-15 10:28:27 echelon i have a client that has his VPS just for VPN and watching GeoIP restricted TV and Netflix
+2019-08-15 10:28:29 southerntofu TechEmporium: i meant internet streaming service
+2019-08-15 10:28:32 southerntofu (website)
+2019-08-15 10:28:33 TechEmporium yes
+2019-08-15 10:28:36 echelon so it happens more often than not, southerntofu
+2019-08-15 10:28:37 TechEmporium That's what I mean too
+2019-08-15 10:28:52 southerntofu cool
+2019-08-15 10:29:10 TechEmporium southerntofu: Look at St. Pierre & Miquelon... It's still a French colony... In Canada
+2019-08-15 10:29:14 echelon i personally don't deal with traditional TV
+2019-08-15 10:29:22 echelon i have access to an IPTV .m3u ;)
+2019-08-15 10:30:04 TechEmporium Why would France bring the time to put infrastructure there, when St. Pierre & Miquelon has a trade alliance with Prince Edward Island (i.e.: Acadia) for that?
+2019-08-15 10:30:20 echelon 3000 channels, including premium channels, from sources in 20+ countries. Pretty much every channel i could want heh.
+2019-08-15 10:30:55 TechEmporium I bet you don't have the Saudi arabian Camel racing channel
+2019-08-15 10:31:07 southerntofu TechEmporium: wouldn't cost much to just not ban these IPs on their web server :P
+2019-08-15 10:31:23 TechEmporium It doesn't cost much to ban those IPs either lol
+2019-08-15 10:31:30 southerntofu lol
+2019-08-15 10:31:34 TechEmporium It's just writing a blacklist
+2019-08-15 10:31:43 southerntofu whitelist, actually
+2019-08-15 10:31:48 echelon i bet you i do, TechEmporium
+2019-08-15 10:31:50 echelon whats it called
+2019-08-15 10:32:00 echelon saudi arabia is one of the countries
+2019-08-15 10:32:22 TechEmporium lol I do
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+2019-08-15 10:32:43 TechEmporium I'm trying to remember the channel because it gets boring, watching camels running with a robotic jockey to whip them
+2019-08-15 10:32:58 TechEmporium I think Doha also has a similar channel
+2019-08-15 10:34:22 echelon haha
+2019-08-15 10:35:56 TechEmporium My parents watch a lot of Syria Drama, though
+2019-08-15 10:38:24 TechEmporium We get all the stations the Americans don't like, too. :P Al Mannar, Syrian stations that are pro-Assad
+2019-08-15 10:39:49 kirk781 TechEmporium, where you at?
+2019-08-15 10:40:43 southerntofu TechEmporium: i guess that changes from pro-pentagon TV? :P
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+2019-08-15 10:45:44 TechEmporium I'm here lol
+2019-08-15 10:45:51 TechEmporium I'm in Canada lol
+2019-08-15 10:45:59 TechEmporium Southern Ontario
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+2019-08-15 10:53:25 kirk781 TechEmporium, lel, I thought you were in Syria something
+2019-08-15 10:55:41 southerntofu close enough? :P
+2019-08-15 10:58:12 TechEmporium lmfao
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+2019-08-15 11:18:58 amcclure morning
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+2019-08-15 11:24:32 praetor 'morning all you happy tilde peoples
+2019-08-15 11:26:41 l4p1n hey praetor
+2019-08-15 11:27:11 southerntofu l4p1n: nice article https://l4p1n.ch/2019/08/14/nouvelle-infrastructure-serveur.html :)
+2019-08-15 11:27:12 BitBot [Title] Une nouvelle infrastructure sur le serveur | l4p1n-blog - https://ttm.sh/T3
+2019-08-15 11:27:19 southerntofu (found it on journalduhacker then i fugred it was you)
+2019-08-15 11:27:22 l4p1n thanks ^^
+2019-08-15 11:27:23 southerntofu hey praetor :)
+2019-08-15 11:27:50 l4p1n southerntofu yup, it's me :p
+2019-08-15 11:28:00 ~ben lol how did you figure that one out ;)
+2019-08-15 11:28:13 southerntofu ben: i wonder if i've ot some sort of superpowers, sometimes :P
+2019-08-15 11:28:49 southerntofu jk but honestly when i started the article i didn't look at the URL i just read proxmox stuff.... then i saw the URL and it clicked in my brain ^^
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+2019-08-15 11:30:27 ~ben haha sounds right :)
+2019-08-15 11:31:03 echelon novell
+2019-08-15 11:31:08 echelon didn't think anyone used that shit anymore
+2019-08-15 11:31:13 echelon l4p1n you are a relic
+2019-08-15 11:31:14 echelon ;)
+2019-08-15 11:31:39 echelon just kidding i don't know how to speak or read french
+2019-08-15 11:32:08 southerntofu i'm not a fan of virtualization but many people use proxmox in very successful setup :)
+2019-08-15 11:32:20 l4p1n echelon why I would be a relic ? X'D
+2019-08-15 11:32:28 ~ben virtualization isn't necessarily bad
+2019-08-15 11:32:36 l4p1n echelon I'll translate it in English for English speakers
+2019-08-15 11:32:47 echelon southerntofu: i'm one of them
+2019-08-15 11:32:50 echelon i love it
+2019-08-15 11:32:57 southerntofu )
+2019-08-15 11:32:59 southerntofu :)
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+2019-08-15 11:49:59 * southerntofu wishes they were at CCC
+2019-08-15 11:51:24 southerntofu wtf https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/d3ag37/us-cities-are-helping-people-buy-amazon-surveillance-cameras-using-taxpayer-money
+2019-08-15 11:51:26 BitBot [Title] US Cities Are Helping People Buy Amazon Surveillance Cameras Using Taxpayer Money - VICE - https://ttm.sh/TY
+2019-08-15 11:58:43 login UPS Are Helping People Buy Goods from Amazon Using Taxpayer Money (postal service)
+2019-08-15 12:03:33 amcclure surveillance cameras?
+2019-08-15 12:04:07 echelon thats what vice calls ring cameras
+2019-08-15 12:04:11 echelon which they are
+2019-08-15 12:04:24 echelon lol, amazon takes a picture of packages now when they deliver them
+2019-08-15 12:04:32 echelon a 'package selfie'
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+2019-08-15 12:05:11 amcclure are ring cameras bad?
+2019-08-15 12:06:02 southerntofu amcclure: i'm not a fan of surveillance equipment in general, but IoT cameras are terrible for security
+2019-08-15 12:06:25 southerntofu they usually have an embedded firmware that receives no security update or gives control of your device to a central authority (google/amazon approach)
+2019-08-15 12:06:39 amcclure and
+2019-08-15 12:09:11 TechEmporium lol
+2019-08-15 12:09:11 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-15 12:09:14 TechEmporium ,bef
+2019-08-15 12:09:14 BitBot [Ducks] TechEmporium befriended a duck in 2.58 seconds! You've befriended 5 ducks in #meta!
+2019-08-15 12:10:11 amcclure what non-iot altearnatives do you recommend then
+2019-08-15 12:11:33 amcclure southerntofu: ^
+2019-08-15 12:11:36 TechEmporium What's your application for one?
+2019-08-15 12:11:44 southerntofu any analog camera + your own server
+2019-08-15 12:11:51 TechEmporium Analog :P
+2019-08-15 12:11:55 amcclure analog camera?
+2019-08-15 12:12:05 login just buy an iphone xs max for each camera
+2019-08-15 12:12:10 login that you need
+2019-08-15 12:12:13 TechEmporium Christ... There's hardly anything ever made in analog anymore
+2019-08-15 12:12:17 southerntofu no sorry digital camera but with analog output :)
+2019-08-15 12:12:29 login but everything is analogue TechEmporium, even digital is actually analog
+2019-08-15 12:12:31 TechEmporium You want a good camera? Get a Huawei phone
+2019-08-15 12:12:55 login if you want fast internet connection to shanghai, get a huawei
+2019-08-15 12:13:00 TechEmporium login: only the output that we see is analog. The processing behind it, all the way down to the RCA or BNC jack, is still in digital
+2019-08-15 12:13:10 TechEmporium Also, blazing fast 5G
+2019-08-15 12:13:20 login BNC jack takes analog though, right?
+2019-08-15 12:13:29 login or it must have an ADC inside it
+2019-08-15 12:13:30 TechEmporium Not always
+2019-08-15 12:13:40 TechEmporium There's ADC is most hardware now
+2019-08-15 12:13:45 login exactly :)
+2019-08-15 12:13:50 TechEmporium And DAC
+2019-08-15 12:14:09 southerntofu BNC is what i had in mind indeed :)
+2019-08-15 12:14:13 TechEmporium The lenx picks up the analog signal, but processes it to digital before pushing it down the line
+2019-08-15 12:14:20 TechEmporium Lens*
+2019-08-15 12:14:29 login imagine a neural network implemented as an analog circuit in hardware
+2019-08-15 12:14:38 TechEmporium Then the receiver converts the signal back
+2019-08-15 12:15:14 TechEmporium login: about Huawei phones, you'll end up Shanghai'd in Hong Kong by a matter of seconds :P
+2019-08-15 12:15:15 login even digital electronics follow the laws of analog electronics
+2019-08-15 12:15:30 login shanghai'd definition?
+2019-08-15 12:15:39 TechEmporium Getting kidnapped & deported
+2019-08-15 12:15:59 login btw, 1 usd = 7.84 hong-kong dollars
+2019-08-15 12:16:08 TechEmporium You mean Yuan
+2019-08-15 12:16:55 login hong kong has its own currency
+2019-08-15 12:16:58 TechEmporium But yeah... Shanghai isn't just the name of a city; it's also the name for the act of kidnapping people to deport them into unwilling labour
+2019-08-15 12:17:00 TechEmporium ooh
+2019-08-15 12:17:03 TechEmporium I didn't know that
+2019-08-15 12:17:09 login https://www.economist.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/640-width/images/print-edition/20180421_FNC294.png
+2019-08-15 12:17:27 login there's an off-shore yuan (CNH) and an on-shore yuan (CNY) too
+2019-08-15 12:17:50 login the offshore yuan can be converted to onshore yuan at hong kong (and a few other places (like singapore) around the world)
+2019-08-15 12:17:55 amcclure there should be use cases for iot though
+2019-08-15 12:17:59 BitBot [RSS] tilde news: Newest Stories: The top 5 industrial IoT use cases [2017] by amcclure@users.tilde.news (amcclure) - https://www.ibm.com/blogs/internet-of-things/top-5-industrial-iot-use-cases/
+2019-08-15 12:18:06 login only the offshore yuan (CNH) can be traded for international currency
+2019-08-15 12:18:19 amcclure (its not oracle this time)
+2019-08-15 12:18:24 amcclure lol
+2019-08-15 12:18:28 login hong-kong dollars is pegged in a small band to the usd
+2019-08-15 12:18:47 southerntofu amcclure: sensors are useful
+2019-08-15 12:19:10 southerntofu but tightly-coupling sensors/actionators to logic on the same hardware is a deadend
+2019-08-15 12:19:25 amcclure how
+2019-08-15 12:19:42 login the hong kong monetary authority buys 1 usd for 7.75 HKD and sells 1 usd for 7.85 HKD.
+2019-08-15 12:20:02 login i.e., you give HKMA 1 USD, it gives you 7.75 HKD
+2019-08-15 12:20:18 login you take 1 USD from HKMA, you have to give it 7.85 HKD
+2019-08-15 12:20:18 TechEmporium southerntofu: how so?
+2019-08-15 12:20:35 amcclure how is it deadend
+2019-08-15 12:20:41 southerntofu TechEmporium: how do you update all these things? :)
+2019-08-15 12:21:17 southerntofu IoT introduces so many vulns everywhere because of lack of updates..
+2019-08-15 12:21:23 TechEmporium Why do you NEED to update these things? The definition of good technology is that it works without the need to update & it works instantly as soon as you turn it on
+2019-08-15 12:21:31 login the foreign exchange market for HKD, therefore, always does the trading of HKD/USD between those two bounds
+2019-08-15 12:21:34 TechEmporium That's why guns are considered good technology
+2019-08-15 12:21:49 login because if it went outside those bounds, someone could commit arbitrage and get some "excess money" from the hong-kong monetary authority
+2019-08-15 12:21:49 TechEmporium You turn it on by pulling a trigger & it does what it's intended to do
+2019-08-15 12:22:00 southerntofu the mozilla WebThings is an interesting approach: https://hacks.mozilla.org/category/web-of-things/
+2019-08-15 12:22:01 TechEmporium You don't need to wait 3 hours for Microsoft to push an update to the gun
+2019-08-15 12:22:02 BitBot [Title] Web of Things Archives - Mozilla Hacks - the Web developer blog - https://ttm.sh/TC
+2019-08-15 12:22:06 login the HKMA has ample dollar reserves and USD-denominated assets to cover anything that may come
+2019-08-15 12:23:12 login i swear, guns will have updates soon
+2019-08-15 12:23:20 login and will be biometrically linked to the person supposed to use them
+2019-08-15 12:23:22 southerntofu TechEmporium: i agree on your definition of good tech, do you think all silicon valley abides by these principles?
+2019-08-15 12:23:35 TechEmporium None of them do lmfao
+2019-08-15 12:23:41 southerntofu we agree :)
+2019-08-15 12:23:44 southerntofu also: https://www.reddit.com/r/IOT/comments/alnqo2/discarded_smart_lightbulbs_reveal_your_wifi/
+2019-08-15 12:23:46 BitBot [Title] Discarded smart lightbulbs reveal your wifi passwords, stored in the clear : IOT - https://ttm.sh/TR
+2019-08-15 12:23:55 login if a computer abided by that principle, it would still be in development
+2019-08-15 12:23:56 TechEmporium Commodore 64 was good technology; as soon as you flipped the switch, the OS was instantly booted up
+2019-08-15 12:24:10 southerntofu this is a common pattern with IoT devices as well (although some IoT devices could take some measures to avoid that)
+2019-08-15 12:24:10 login and what about my pristine computer connected to other rogue computers?
+2019-08-15 12:24:16 login even the human body doesn't work that way
+2019-08-15 12:24:24 login once made, it's perfect and doesn't need to be updated
+2019-08-15 12:24:35 login even the human body doesn't work that way
+2019-08-15 12:25:07 login wtf about the lightbulb revealing the wifi password
+2019-08-15 12:25:14 login what about using light spectrum for information?
+2019-08-15 12:25:25 login the frequency is so high, so the bandwidth will be awesome
+2019-08-15 12:25:30 login but it won't travel far
+2019-08-15 12:25:48 login but you can just shoot internet through power into every light
+2019-08-15 12:25:50 login in the hosue
+2019-08-15 12:26:01 southerntofu sure but then you need a specialized gateway for this and not a standard wifi router :)
+2019-08-15 12:26:23 login and i'm not even sure how large or small the antenna for physical light will have to be
+2019-08-15 12:26:53 login neutrino-based communication: now that's truly alien technology
+2019-08-15 12:27:57 trinary https://purelifi.com/lifi-products/
+2019-08-15 12:27:59 BitBot [Title] LiFi Components - pureLiFi - Welcome to immersive connectivity. - https://ttm.sh/T1
+2019-08-15 12:28:11 amcclure if IoT is bad for the reasons B3n says
+2019-08-15 12:28:21 amcclure "security"
+2019-08-15 12:28:46 trinary Not sure how that's supposed to work
+2019-08-15 12:28:50 amcclure what if I was running a tilde server but never ran `pkg update` or `apt update` depending on the system?
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+2019-08-15 12:29:18 amcclure wouldn't that be proof that UNIX/Linux is inherently a security risk?
+2019-08-15 12:29:36 TechEmporium lol
+2019-08-15 12:29:51 TechEmporium To every lock there's always a key etc.
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+2019-08-15 12:30:06 southerntofu no, but if 100% of the GNU/*nix industry didn't provide user-convenient ways to achieve updates, we would proably say so :)
+2019-08-15 12:30:38 southerntofu (or did update via a remote-control mechanism centralized to their servers)
+2019-08-15 12:31:01 * southerntofu loves IoT botnets, theoretically...
+2019-08-15 12:31:16 trinary I agree with you, amcclure
+2019-08-15 12:31:45 trinary In that a system with Linux installed is a bigger security risk than the same device with no operating system installed
+2019-08-15 12:32:00 southerntofu x)
+2019-08-15 12:33:09 TechEmporium lol
+2019-08-15 12:33:20 TechEmporium What happened to people using MS-DOS?
+2019-08-15 12:33:36 TechEmporium It was perfectly capable of networking with the right packet & ODI drivers
+2019-08-15 12:34:08 TechEmporium And what the hell does "Internet of Things" even mean?
+2019-08-15 12:34:12 login it can't do gigabit internet
+2019-08-15 12:34:20 TechEmporium Yes it can
+2019-08-15 12:34:28 amcclure southerntofu: so the IoT device update feature isn't a user-convenient way to achieve updates?
+2019-08-15 12:34:33 login it means your fridge ordering food over amazon when stuff gets over
+2019-08-15 12:34:36 amcclure TechEmporium: Internet of things is devices on the internet
+2019-08-15 12:34:45 TechEmporium Look up e1000 packet drivers & ODI drivers, login
+2019-08-15 12:34:53 login ,g e1000
+2019-08-15 12:34:54 BitBot [Google] (e1000) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epic_E1000
+2019-08-15 12:34:58 login ,g odi drivers
+2019-08-15 12:34:58 TechEmporium amcclure: so basically what the internet is used for
+2019-08-15 12:34:59 BitBot [Google] (odi drivers) https://www.odi.org/publications/5399-mapping-political-context-drivers-change
+2019-08-15 12:35:00 southerntofu amcclure: it's rare that it's baked in, and even more rare that it's done in a secure way..
+2019-08-15 12:35:14 login i don't think i got the right odi drivers on google-sama
+2019-08-15 12:35:14 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-15 12:35:17 TechEmporium ,bef
+2019-08-15 12:35:18 BitBot [Ducks] TechEmporium befriended a duck in 3.67 seconds! You've befriended 6 ducks in #meta!
+2019-08-15 12:35:19 login don't bef or
+2019-08-15 12:35:21 login oh
+2019-08-15 12:35:27 login afk
+2019-08-15 12:35:58 TechEmporium e1000 packet & ODI drivers are the dual MS-DOS drivers you need to get Intel Pro 1000 NICs working in DOS
+2019-08-15 12:36:10 TechEmporium And those support gigabit transfer
+2019-08-15 12:36:34 amcclure wouldn't a lot of the IoT devices just have automatic updates actually?
+2019-08-15 12:36:36 TechEmporium That's how people use multicast PXE servers to boot Symantec Ghost Solution Suite on 20 laptops at a time, before deployment
+2019-08-15 12:36:42 TechEmporium Probably
+2019-08-15 12:37:23 amcclure wouldn't automatic updates get rid of having to `apt update` *wait* `apt upgrade` *wait*
+2019-08-15 12:37:31 southerntofu amcclure: according to the billions of IoT devices currently taking part in botnets, i'd say no :)
+2019-08-15 12:37:51 southerntofu IoT botnets are a real thing i'm not kidding
+2019-08-15 12:37:54 amcclure are they up to date?
+2019-08-15 12:38:20 southerntofu depends which, some don't even receive any form of updates because the device was bought more than 2 years ago and the manufacturer stopped providing updates
+2019-08-15 12:38:40 southerntofu some don't hav any update mechanism whatsoever
+2019-08-15 12:39:20 amcclure what new devices wouldn't have automatic updating
+2019-08-15 12:39:34 Fessus and some just use hardcoded default credentials because the makers are braindead
+2019-08-15 12:39:52 Fessus amcclure, really cheap stuff
+2019-08-15 12:40:00 amcclure It's the manufacturer's fault
+2019-08-15 12:40:03 amcclure not IoT's fault
+2019-08-15 12:40:03 Fessus yes
+2019-08-15 12:40:20 Fessus but it's extremely common
+2019-08-15 12:40:28 Fessus so it's still a problem
+2019-08-15 12:41:23 amcclure so the number of not up-to-date Linux servers/pcs makes it a problem as well?
+2019-08-15 12:42:07 Fessus every additional internet connected device is potentially a problem, it's just that the security is much worse on average for IOT stuff
+2019-08-15 12:42:12 southerntofu no because every body can update their servers/pcs, and they usually don't have hardcoded passwords like Fessus mentioned :)
+2019-08-15 12:43:12 amcclure how do you know a lot of servers are actually up to date
+2019-08-15 12:43:14 ~khuxkm all default pis have pi/raspberry as their username/password combo
+2019-08-15 12:43:30 ~khuxkm does that make every raspi a security risk?
+2019-08-15 12:43:33 southerntofu like james mickens summarized in a talk (paraphrased) « IoT security works just like conventional security. But nobody in the industry wants to care about how traditional systems security work so they just make unsafe things for everyone »
+2019-08-15 12:43:47 Fessus khuxkm, yes if not updated
+2019-08-15 12:44:04 Fessus lots of pis get hacked because of it
+2019-08-15 12:44:24 ~khuxkm brb, making a pi botnet
+2019-08-15 12:44:26 southerntofu khuxkm: no because you can use your pi without connecting it to the internet so if you connect it you should change credentials
+2019-08-15 12:44:35 southerntofu most IoT devices could work locally but refuse to :-/
+2019-08-15 12:44:35 amcclure does that mean Raspberry pis are bad?
+2019-08-15 12:44:52 southerntofu i didn't say that :P
+2019-08-15 12:45:02 Fessus no, but it's a less than ideal design decision
+2019-08-15 12:45:13 southerntofu also it's fairly simple to passwd / apt update from a pi
+2019-08-15 12:45:13 ~khuxkm okay but how many people actually change their pi's credentials
+2019-08-15 12:45:21 southerntofu not so true from a lightbulb :)
+2019-08-15 12:45:26 amcclure IoT is bad because of updates, but the same issue on Linux doesn't make it bad?
+2019-08-15 12:45:46 southerntofu khuxkm: like Fessus said it's not a good status quo, but it's far less of a worry than connected cameras
+2019-08-15 12:45:52 ~khuxkm it took me about 6 months to actually change my password from raspberry
+2019-08-15 12:45:58 southerntofu khuxkm: how so? oO
+2019-08-15 12:45:59 amcclure 6 months?
+2019-08-15 12:46:15 Fessus khuxkm, if that was connected to the internet that's begging for trouble
+2019-08-15 12:46:15 ~khuxkm because I didn't think about it
+2019-08-15 12:46:32 ~khuxkm yeah, but it was only connected when I was actively using it
+2019-08-15 12:46:54 ~khuxkm and I turned it off after every use
+2019-08-15 12:47:11 ~khuxkm (sudo shutdown -t now and unplug it when the lights go off)
+2019-08-15 12:47:36 Fessus even so, look through the log files of any machine and check how often people try to ssh in using those credentials
+2019-08-15 12:48:07 Fessus my VPS has random dicks try to login with pi default credentials at least every hour
+2019-08-15 12:48:36 southerntofu and so does every publicly-routable IPv4 :)
+2019-08-15 12:48:49 ~khuxkm what use would a pi botnet be?
+2019-08-15 12:48:56 Fessus ddos
+2019-08-15 12:49:02 ~khuxkm you'd need like 20 to have a reasonable amount of processing power
+2019-08-15 12:49:18 ~khuxkm I was thinking bitcoin mining lol
+2019-08-15 12:49:29 trinary Hahaha
+2019-08-15 12:49:31 trinary 20?
+2019-08-15 12:49:43 ~khuxkm I mean, Pi's aren't that powerful
+2019-08-15 12:49:49 ~khuxkm at least, pre Pi 4
+2019-08-15 12:49:52 southerntofu khuxkm: yes most people abuse IoT devices (and pis and others) for network access, not for processing power
+2019-08-15 12:49:54 trinary My Pi doesn't manage more than 1MB/s of transfer, CPU limited
+2019-08-15 12:50:11 trinary (Cheapest ssh cipher, didn't measure nc)
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+2019-08-15 12:51:52 ~khuxkm hi gareppa
+2019-08-15 12:51:55 ~khuxkm bye gareppa
+2019-08-15 12:55:09 southerntofu khuxkm: https://github.com/getzola/zola/issues/317#issuecomment-521420250
+2019-08-15 12:55:11 BitBot [Title] TOML is not very friendly for non-technical users · Issue #317 · getzola/zola · GitHub - https://ttm.sh/T4
+2019-08-15 12:55:46 southerntofu i think at this point TOML support in upstream Zola is not unrealistic :)
+2019-08-15 12:58:38 ~khuxkm|lounge "the less YAML the better" pff
+2019-08-15 12:59:38 southerntofu well that's true YAML parsers are.. inconsistent to say the least
+2019-08-15 13:00:00 southerntofu and YAML is far from user-friendly (2 spaces instead of 4 so harder to distinguish indentation)
+2019-08-15 13:00:07 southerntofu i mean maybe we don't agree i don't know ^^
+2019-08-15 13:00:24 ~khuxkm "far from user friendly" yet the entire issue is about how non-technical users don't get TOML
+2019-08-15 13:01:02 ~khuxkm IMO TOML is slightly less user friendly than YAML (the "yes" and "no" being boolean makes sense to me, but whatever)
+2019-08-15 13:01:04 southerntofu i didn't say TOML or JSON is better lol
+2019-08-15 13:02:04 ~khuxkm "published: yes" makes more sense to me from an end-user standpoint than "published: true" but the yaml libs we've been using don't do that
+2019-08-15 13:02:16 ~khuxkm but whatever, this would be more of an #rfcs discussion
+2019-08-15 13:15:33 den hi there
+2019-08-15 13:15:55 ~khuxkm heyo
+2019-08-15 13:16:04 ~khuxkm torn between what I want to play
+2019-08-15 13:16:20 ~khuxkm can't decide between vanilla minecraft or the loot table randomizer
+2019-08-15 13:18:14 ~khuxkm well, it's a loot table/structure randomizers
+2019-08-15 13:18:27 den guys im travelling with bus atm
+2019-08-15 13:18:30 den and just opened irc
+2019-08-15 13:18:39 den probably old guys around me looking like wtf is he doin'
+2019-08-15 13:18:49 den sorry for not being kind :D
+2019-08-15 13:19:09 den kirk781
+2019-08-15 13:19:58 ~khuxkm it's ok
+2019-08-15 13:20:25 den kirk781 asked me a few questions but now offline will answer question later
+2019-08-15 13:45:58 BitBot [RSS] tilde news: Newest Stories: Patch workflow with mutt - 2019 - Linux Kernel Monkey Log by southerntofu@users.tilde.news (southerntofu) - http://kroah.com/log/blog/2019/08/14/patch-workflow-with-mutt-2019
+2019-08-15 14:12:01 den ,w
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+2019-08-15 14:12:03 den ,time
+2019-08-15 14:12:04 BitBot [Time] Time for den: 2019/08/15 21:12:03
+2019-08-15 14:12:07 den :(
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+2019-08-15 14:12:33 den s/:(/:)
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+2019-08-15 14:16:00 den hi smoerk
+2019-08-15 14:21:13 den i can write code all night
+2019-08-15 14:21:17 den but not sure if i should
+2019-08-15 14:29:01 amcclure hi
+2019-08-15 14:32:11 den hey where is your ~
+2019-08-15 14:32:19 den tildegit++
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+2019-08-15 14:32:35 den best++
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+2019-08-15 14:33:14 den oh, actually all tildes good
+2019-08-15 14:33:20 den but can't upvote all here
+2019-08-15 14:33:20 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
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+2019-08-15 14:33:29 jesopo the tilde empire++
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+2019-08-15 14:33:32 den i need to go #bots lol
+2019-08-15 14:38:01 amcclure tildegit's nice
+2019-08-15 14:38:11 amcclure hey jesopo
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+2019-08-15 14:38:44 jesopo hii
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+2019-08-15 16:54:31 robdrake Hello
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+2019-08-15 16:55:58 fosslinux does anyone know why tf init would be binding to 6667
+2019-08-15 16:57:21 fosslinux nvm it was a systemd socket
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+2019-08-15 16:57:46 robdrake buggy current modular bot code in node.js : https://tildegit.org/rgdrake/nodeircbot
+2019-08-15 16:57:48 BitBot [Title] rgdrake/nodeircbot: testing an idea for loadable modules for a nodejs irc bot - nodeircbot - tildegit - https://ttm.sh/TU
+2019-08-15 16:58:11 robdrake hoping to get some help from freenode/#node.js but none so far
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+2019-08-15 16:58:23 ~fosslinux GOOGOOGOOOGOO
+2019-08-15 16:58:27 ~fosslinux HELL YES
+2019-08-15 16:58:34 robdrake I'm circling around the answer, but can't hit the mark
+2019-08-15 17:06:20 southerntofu shouldn't local be this.local (l7) and bot this.local(l10) ?
+2019-08-15 17:06:50 southerntofu and i don't know but this code sounds weird to me but maye because i don't code nodejs?
+2019-08-15 17:07:04 southerntofu but i feel like this is for objects and should be used in object method, not in module-level functions
+2019-08-15 17:07:24 southerntofu s/this/`this`/
+2019-08-15 17:07:24 timemachine but i feel like `this` is for objects and should be used in object method, not in module-level functions
+2019-08-15 17:09:09 southerntofu nevermind apparently that's just my poor understanding of javascript
+2019-08-15 17:10:13 robdrake southerntofu, module level for dynamic loading of bot modules, but I may investigate the fs modules
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+2019-08-15 17:27:03 southerntofu i don't know it just sounds weird to me that register function can access a "local" variable that is defined nowhere in it, and same for hello with bot..
+2019-08-15 17:30:28 robdrake check modules
+2019-08-15 17:30:38 robdrake s/modules/modules\//
+2019-08-15 17:30:38 timemachine check modules/
+2019-08-15 17:31:12 southerntofu no precisely i'm talking aout hello.js
+2019-08-15 17:34:05 robdrake southerntofu, if you hang out on freenode, check out ##javascript and #node.js
+2019-08-15 17:34:18 robdrake getting some help from a 'name' in #node.js
+2019-08-15 17:46:41 ~khuxkm|lounge windows update fucked up my grandma's laptop. RIP
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+2019-08-15 17:56:29 ~fosslinux khuxkm|lounge: windows does that ;)
+2019-08-15 17:56:41 l4p1n khuxkm|lounge RIP
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+2019-08-15 18:03:35 ~ben henlo frenlos
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+2019-08-15 18:05:12 robdrake southerntofu, https://github.com/e0ipso/plugnplay though, may get things working / clarify things better
+2019-08-15 18:05:13 BitBot [Title] GitHub - e0ipso/plugnplay: 🤖 Plugin system for reusable code in node.js - https://ttm.sh/Tl
+2019-08-15 18:16:50 ~ben just spun up a vm for running my own nameserver
+2019-08-15 18:17:11 ~ben looks like ovh offers a secondary dns mirror too
+2019-08-15 18:17:41 ~ben got it set up and transferred over for tildeverse.net
+2019-08-15 18:17:53 ~ben dig ns tildeverse.net
+2019-08-15 18:18:18 ~ben anyone know of a bulk way to export cloudflare dns records as bind zonefiles?
+2019-08-15 18:18:37 ryan for multiple domains or just one domain?
+2019-08-15 18:19:03 southerntofu https://support.cloudflare.com/hc/en-us/articles/200168856-Importing-and-exporting-DNS-records
+2019-08-15 18:19:05 BitBot [Title] Importing and exporting DNS records – Cloudflare Support - https://ttm.sh/Tk
+2019-08-15 18:19:10 ryan click "advanced" and click "export" if just one
+2019-08-15 18:19:13 southerntofu robdrake: hehe good luck with your project
+2019-08-15 18:20:07 robdrake I just want to setup something like bot load [plugin]
+2019-08-15 18:20:14 robdrake and bot use [plugin]
+2019-08-15 18:20:29 l4p1n ben have fun :)
+2019-08-15 18:20:36 ~ben it's like 25 domains
+2019-08-15 18:20:49 ~ben i know about exporting them individually
+2019-08-15 18:21:18 southerntofu https://github.com/lfaoro/flares then ?
+2019-08-15 18:21:20 BitBot [Title] GitHub - lfaoro/flares: Flares 🔥 is a CloudFlare DNS backup tool - https://ttm.sh/T8
+2019-08-15 18:21:25 ~ben ooo
+2019-08-15 18:22:20 ~ben that's probably the solution i'm looking for
+2019-08-15 18:23:36 ~ben will have to set up the bind9 certbot integration too
+2019-08-15 18:28:32 robdrake found a possibly elegant solution: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/13481109/load-overwrite-function-at-runtime
+2019-08-15 18:28:33 BitBot [Title] javascript - Load + overwrite function at runtime - Stack Overflow - https://ttm.sh/T7
+2019-08-15 18:29:44 robdrake maybe not...
+2019-08-15 18:33:46 southerntofu englishm: i think it's as easy as generating a TSIG key, register it the public key in your bind9 zone
+2019-08-15 18:33:53 southerntofu and giving the secret to letsencrypt?
+2019-08-15 18:35:18 southerntofu would worry i meant to hl ben not englishm -__-
+2019-08-15 18:35:48 ~ben ya that's the general process from what i've seen
+2019-08-15 18:35:52 ~ben got an export of my zone files
+2019-08-15 18:35:57 southerntofu woops sorry* wth sorry i haev the light turned off and high latency :D
+2019-08-15 18:37:07 amcclure o/
+2019-08-15 18:37:17 southerntofu o/
+2019-08-15 18:37:26 ~ben oof
+2019-08-15 18:37:30 ~ben how much latency
+2019-08-15 18:37:50 ~ben i've got about 50ms to my weechat rn
+2019-08-15 18:38:15 southerntofu about 500ms i'd say
+2019-08-15 18:38:20 southerntofu but connection goes over tor so that's why :)
+2019-08-15 18:38:45 TechEmporium 4 Windows 95 installation floppies down, 19 to go
+2019-08-15 18:38:46 southerntofu (also when nobody else uses the connection it's faster but right now a lot of people are watching movies or something)
+2019-08-15 18:38:52 TechEmporium Speaking of latency :P
+2019-08-15 18:39:10 ~ben oh god that's awful
+2019-08-15 18:39:14 southerntofu (so i can get up to several seconds latency sometimes (just for keypress feedback on ssh))
+2019-08-15 18:39:22 ~ben sounds miserable
+2019-08-15 18:39:25 southerntofu (several as in 5-15 lol)
+2019-08-15 18:39:32 ~ben anything over 150ms is unbearable for me
+2019-08-15 18:39:45 ~ben mosh can help sometimes but that's extreme
+2019-08-15 18:39:46 southerntofu yea it's realy hard so i do a lot of stuff on my local machine, long live tildegit!
+2019-08-15 18:39:49 TechEmporium ben: this isn't even installing it on the NEC Versa 2000D laptop I have either. I'm actually writing the floppy images onto the disks in order to do the installation :P
+2019-08-15 18:40:02 ~ben lol awesome TechEmporium
+2019-08-15 18:40:07 ~ben you must have a masochist streak
+2019-08-15 18:40:14 southerntofu but sometimes i get less than 100ms (even over tor) it just depends on the fucking QoS algorithm in the router
+2019-08-15 18:40:21 TechEmporium I'm an Arab. Of course I do lol
+2019-08-15 18:40:24 ~ben yikes
+2019-08-15 18:40:35 ~ben have you tried adjusting the router settings?
+2019-08-15 18:40:39 southerntofu because commercial routers are setup to prioritize video streams over small packages
+2019-08-15 18:40:55 southerntofu can't, not mine, and not running a free system :/
+2019-08-15 18:41:06 ~ben oh are you on at work or something?
+2019-08-15 18:41:12 southerntofu something :P
+2019-08-15 18:41:24 southerntofu i'm hosted by friends in a squat because i don't have a squat of my own at the moment
+2019-08-15 18:41:56 ~ben oh dang ok
+2019-08-15 18:42:07 ~ben take what you can get i suppose
+2019-08-15 18:42:08 southerntofu in the squats it's not uncommn to have one xDSL link for over 30 people
+2019-08-15 18:42:18 ~ben damn
+2019-08-15 18:42:19 southerntofu here's it's only ~15 )
+2019-08-15 18:42:52 ~ben i've got my cable here for me and my upstairs neighbor
+2019-08-15 18:42:57 ~ben 100/15 mbps
+2019-08-15 18:43:15 southerntofu yes but in some big cities like Toulouse there's proper non-profit network infrastructure
+2019-08-15 18:43:20 southerntofu with cables and directional wifi links
+2019-08-15 18:43:25 southerntofu so you get good wifi in the squats
+2019-08-15 18:43:39 southerntofu but here in a smaller town no such things :)
+2019-08-15 18:43:52 southerntofu (not yet anyway)
+2019-08-15 18:44:19 southerntofu (there's even a federation of non-profit neutral ISPs: https://ffdn.org )
+2019-08-15 18:44:19 BitBot [Title] Fédération FDN | Fédération des Fournisseurs d'Accès Internet Associatifs - https://ffdn.org
+2019-08-15 18:45:34 ~ben that's awesome
+2019-08-15 18:45:54 ~ben i think i've mentioned before that the public electric utility here is going to be coordinating fttp
+2019-08-15 18:45:57 ~ben 10gbps
+2019-08-15 18:45:58 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-15 18:46:01 koenig ,bef
+2019-08-15 18:46:01 BitBot [Ducks] koenig befriended a duck in 2.94 seconds! You've befriended 2 ducks in #meta!
+2019-08-15 18:46:07 ~ben eventually
+2019-08-15 18:46:14 southerntofu yes that's amazing :)
+2019-08-15 18:46:35 southerntofu public infrastructure is a cool thing if it's not run for profit
+2019-08-15 18:46:49 ~ben for sure :)
+2019-08-15 18:48:34 southerntofu a while ago some comrades in Greece visited the electricity company to remind its CEO of that, precisely
+2019-08-15 18:48:48 ~ben hah nice
+2019-08-15 18:49:30 southerntofu they destroyed all the computers and paper records they could find, and held the CEO hostage just long enough to lecture him and remind him that cutting electricity services to poor people is shameful
+2019-08-15 18:49:46 ~ben oh dang
+2019-08-15 18:49:51 ~ben any results?
+2019-08-15 18:49:59 southerntofu that was all recorded of course, that group rouvikonas films everything so the media can't lie about their actions
+2019-08-15 18:50:25 southerntofu ben: well hard to say without a proper revolution, but at least they're inspiring other people to join in on the struggle
+2019-08-15 18:50:38 ~ben in for the long haul
+2019-08-15 18:50:40 ~ben cool
+2019-08-15 18:50:42 southerntofu not fall into drugs or apathy but take action against injustice
+2019-08-15 18:51:11 southerntofu they're a very popular movement but they're starting to face repression now with the new right-wing (close to fascists) overnment
+2019-08-15 18:52:11 southerntofu in greece things are fucked up but at least many people realize the crisis is an invention of the rich to take more from the poor (like wars) and organize accordingly, without depending on the state
+2019-08-15 18:54:10 TechEmporium Greeks have known this for centuries, though lol
+2019-08-15 18:54:35 TechEmporium They've always been feisty, even among friends lol
+2019-08-15 18:55:27 southerntofu a distanced and biased article, but english-language: https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/01/26/never-mind-the-troika-heres-rouvikonas/
+2019-08-15 18:55:29 BitBot [Title] Never Mind the Troika, Here’s Rouvikonas – Foreign Policy - https://ttm.sh/TJ
+2019-08-15 18:59:26 TechEmporium lol
+2019-08-15 18:59:57 TechEmporium At this point, I'm surprised Greece is still in the EU & hasn't decided to join a union with their "favourite" neighbour Turkey
+2019-08-15 18:59:59 TechEmporium :P
+2019-08-15 19:00:32 southerntofu TechEmporium: well many people in greece wanted to believe in a Europe of the people
+2019-08-15 19:00:55 southerntofu but the new Syriza government these red traitors they ditched every promise they made to get elected
+2019-08-15 19:01:23 southerntofu their two big promises were fuck the banks (and the pretend debt) and free political prisoners
+2019-08-15 19:01:28 southerntofu they did neither
+2019-08-15 19:02:08 southerntofu even the minister of finances under syriza stepped down when he realized he was bein missionned to break his program/promises
+2019-08-15 19:03:07 robdrake found https://github.com/draggor/node-ircbot but I loathe his coding style
+2019-08-15 19:03:09 BitBot [Title] GitHub - draggor/node-ircbot: A custom little node.js irc bot based on node-irc - https://ttm.sh/To
+2019-08-15 19:04:18 <-- Alina25 (~Alina@48.red-83-52-201.dynamicip.rima-tde.net) has quit (Client exited)
+2019-08-15 19:04:26 robdrake I'll refactor and adapt his plugin code to something less ugly
+2019-08-15 19:05:02 southerntofu good plan :)
+2019-08-15 19:08:44 robdrake I wish a hospital aide would come get my tray, I do need a nap / rest
+2019-08-15 19:11:04 den hi there
+2019-08-15 19:12:29 den my new exit node is going to hit 400mb :D
+2019-08-15 19:16:37 den ,w
+2019-08-15 19:16:37 BitBot [Weather|den] (Fatih, Istanbul, Marmara Region, Turkey) 23C/75F | Clear Sky | Humidity: 78% | Wind: 13.0KMh/8.1MPh
+2019-08-15 19:16:40 den ,time
+2019-08-15 19:16:40 BitBot [Time] Time for den: 2019/08/16 02:16:40
+2019-08-15 19:16:45 den late :/
+2019-08-15 19:23:57 jesopo ,time
+2019-08-15 19:23:58 BitBot [Time] Time for jesopo: 2019/08/16 00:23:58
+2019-08-15 19:26:30 ~ben ,time
+2019-08-15 19:26:31 BitBot [Time] Time for ben: 2019/08/15 19:26:30
+2019-08-15 19:26:34 ~ben almost time for trivia
+2019-08-15 19:29:24 den my amazing trip plan for next year:
+2019-08-15 19:29:36 den switzerland, uk, usa
+2019-08-15 19:29:42 den lets make it
+2019-08-15 19:29:50 den ch, uk, usa
+2019-08-15 19:30:20 den lol didnt used sed
+2019-08-15 19:30:52 praetor guyyyyyyzzzzz.....zomg...I reflashed my pocket chip...on a website...using my phone...with webusb
+2019-08-15 19:30:57 praetor that shit is soooo fucking cool
+2019-08-15 19:32:32 praetor very few web technologies amaze me. but....no drivers and shit
+2019-08-15 19:39:04 ~ben ch is so nice
+2019-08-15 20:05:36 echelon what is webusb?
+2019-08-15 20:05:44 <-- frigginglorious (~Thunderbir@71-82-147-112.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds)
+2019-08-15 20:10:06 ryan echelon: a security disaster waiting to happen
+2019-08-15 20:10:15 ryan echelon: in short, it's a way to give websites access to your USB devices
+2019-08-15 20:11:21 ryan the biggest issue I see with it is that someone was able to spoof the U2F challenge and pass a custom domain, before that was added to the blacklist
+2019-08-15 20:11:46 ryan it's a leaky boat where the holes appear faster than they can be plugged
+2019-08-15 20:39:48 ryan fosslinux: tilde.team/users/brendantcc is blaming you for things
+2019-08-15 20:39:52 ryan just thought you'd like to know
+2019-08-15 20:45:25 ~fosslinux Where
+2019-08-15 20:45:30 ~fosslinux >:(
+2019-08-15 20:45:37 ~fosslinux ryan:
+2019-08-15 20:45:59 ryan 19:41 just asked him in ##brendantcc to install weechat-lua when he gets the chance
+2019-08-15 20:46:08 ryan from Freenode#weechat
+2019-08-15 20:47:15 ~fosslinux anything before that
+2019-08-15 20:47:33 ryan just asking about how to get emoji.lua working, and asking if i knew you
+2019-08-15 20:49:07 ~fosslinux i think hes just being a pain again
+2019-08-15 20:49:10 ~fosslinux :\
+2019-08-15 20:49:26 ~fosslinux ive installed it and im not going to take it as an insult
+2019-08-15 20:49:37 ~fosslinux he needs to give me more than 5 minutes to install something :|
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+2019-08-15 21:22:42 praetor webusb has promise
+2019-08-15 21:22:49 praetor what's going on y'all?
+2019-08-15 21:23:07 praetor I just talked to a friend who is a teacher, and he wants me to help him write comp sci lesson plans for raspberry pis
+2019-08-15 21:23:32 TechEmporium I'm struggling with an old NEC Versa 2000D laptop that only has a floppy drive
+2019-08-15 21:24:10 TechEmporium I'm trying to install Windows 95 on it & my floppy sets have all been corrupted with age, so I have to make new sets using the Windows 95 CD
+2019-08-15 21:24:17 TechEmporium 29 floppies in total
+2019-08-15 21:25:45 TechEmporium That's right... 29 installation floppies for Windows 95 OS release 2.5
+2019-08-15 21:25:59 kirch no RS-232 external CD drive, eh?
+2019-08-15 21:26:18 ryan praetor: it has promise for nothing but security vulnerabilities
+2019-08-15 21:26:36 Jacob That's the benefit!
+2019-08-15 21:26:39 praetor nou
+2019-08-15 21:26:45 praetor idk. maybe they'll perfect it
+2019-08-15 21:26:46 * kirch recalls installing Puppy Linux on a similar device he found while dumpster diving
+2019-08-15 21:27:07 ryan a security system designed by a blacklist instead of a whitelist is inherently more vulnerable due to the fact you must update to fix security, rather than update to add functionality
+2019-08-15 21:27:46 npa this is why i don't like the feature-policy header
+2019-08-15 21:29:13 ryan so when you have security that is reliant on operations from the web browser to work, such as a challenge generated by the browser, you can then spoof the domain name and get a valid challenge/response for, say, facebook.com even if your domain is cheeseburger.com
+2019-08-15 21:29:14 TechEmporium kirch: I have no RS-232 external, no DB-25, no PCMCIA external in spite of the computer supporting all that
+2019-08-15 21:29:23 ryan because you can just bypass the library and use the USB item directly
+2019-08-15 21:29:45 ryan this was, of course, patched up quickly. if you were lucky enough to remember to upgrade before all the phishing attacks went out
+2019-08-15 21:30:23 Jacob We should make it so that you can directly interface all your hardware seamlessly with Google cloud operating systems.
+2019-08-15 21:30:41 TechEmporium Enjoy your spynet
+2019-08-15 21:30:44 Jacob :>
+2019-08-15 21:31:31 Jacob Really, unless we bypass ISPs and make a guerilla web, we're always going to deal with spying on our packets.
+2019-08-15 21:32:28 npa encrypted SNI and DoH
+2019-08-15 21:33:58 ryan the issue is less with spying on the packets, more about actually spoofing authentication challenges
+2019-08-15 21:34:07 ryan you go from "hey i know what you're doing" to "hey i am You"
+2019-08-15 21:35:07 npa password deprecation when
+2019-08-15 21:35:43 ryan well
+2019-08-15 21:35:46 ryan isn't that just webauthn
+2019-08-15 21:37:12 npa yes
+2019-08-15 21:37:58 ryan actually. one of the things i'm doing for the new work API is if you want an API key instead of doing things manually you have to use U2F
+2019-08-15 21:38:02 ryan which is p nice, i think
+2019-08-15 21:38:21 ryan we'll also be shipping out a security key to all new customers so they can use that
+2019-08-15 21:39:14 * praetor is high as balls.
+2019-08-15 21:39:17 praetor it's lovely
+2019-08-15 21:39:32 praetor much euphoria. so happy
+2019-08-15 21:39:42 Jacob 'Tis fleeting.
+2019-08-15 21:40:14 praetor actually not. when I come down my mood is pretty leveled out
+2019-08-15 21:40:25 praetor it goes from euphoria, to sober contentment
+2019-08-15 21:41:36 npa that's good praetor
+2019-08-15 21:41:49 npa i usually hated getting euphoria, because it always meant crashing down
+2019-08-15 21:41:56 npa shits nice though
+2019-08-15 21:42:07 praetor well, I have chronic depression and anything that is not chronic depression is good
+2019-08-15 21:42:53 npa agree
+2019-08-15 21:42:55 Jacob Spent too many years with my head in the clouds. Been clean for five years now, and I wouldn't go back.
+2019-08-15 21:43:13 kirch TechEmporium: yowch
+2019-08-15 21:43:22 ryan Jacob: congratulations on your migration to on-premises hardware
+2019-08-15 21:43:30 npa haha
+2019-08-15 21:43:31 ~fosslinux hi Jacob! haven't seen you around before
+2019-08-15 21:43:44 praetor this is different. this is prescribed. euphoria just happens to be a side effect, which is why they put me on it, because when you come down, your mood is rock stable
+2019-08-15 21:43:56 Jacob fosslinux: Howdy. Neat to be here.
+2019-08-15 21:44:04 praetor except it makes me really chatty
+2019-08-15 21:44:28 Jacob Was poking around gopherspace and discovered this IRC.
+2019-08-15 21:44:32 Jacob :>
+2019-08-15 21:44:34 praetor oh nice
+2019-08-15 21:44:40 praetor welcome Jacob
+2019-08-15 21:45:01 Jacob I've got a gopherhole over at gopher://silentmessengers.org
+2019-08-15 21:46:37 ~fosslinux Yay gopher
+2019-08-15 21:46:48 Jacob :D
+2019-08-15 21:55:18 den hey
+2019-08-15 21:55:29 den wrote a base for bestbackup
+2019-08-15 21:55:33 den not implemented encryptions yet
+2019-08-15 21:55:39 den please tell me if i forgot something
+2019-08-15 21:55:47 den i took backup of:
+2019-08-15 21:55:50 den /etc/*
+2019-08-15 21:55:53 den /var/www/*
+2019-08-15 21:55:55 den /home/*
+2019-08-15 21:56:17 den and source code on tildegit as bestbackup https://tildegit.org/best/bestbackup
+2019-08-15 21:56:19 BitBot [Title] best/bestbackup: Backup tool for ~best (WIP) - bestbackup - tildegit - https://ttm.sh/Tr
+2019-08-15 21:58:23 npa hm, /opt sometimes also should be included, but its so rare to see people installing configs to there any more
+2019-08-15 21:59:20 den at least i dont
+2019-08-15 21:59:28 den even if i do i didnt noticed it
+2019-08-15 21:59:38 den also for now code is bad enough
+2019-08-15 21:59:42 den to not be used
+2019-08-15 22:00:02 den opt is empty at ~best
+2019-08-15 22:00:35 den ,w npa
+2019-08-15 22:00:35 BitBot [Weather|npa] (New South Wales, Australia) 21C/70F | Clear Sky | Humidity: 21% | Wind: 27.7KMh/17.2MPh
+2019-08-15 22:00:39 den ,t npa
+2019-08-15 22:00:40 BitBot [Title] Failed to get title
+2019-08-15 22:00:43 den ,time npa
+2019-08-15 22:00:43 BitBot [Time] Time for npa: 2019/08/16 12:00:43
+2019-08-15 22:00:43 npa ,time npa
+2019-08-15 22:00:43 BitBot [Time] Time for npa: 2019/08/16 12:00:43
+2019-08-15 22:00:49 npa this is winter
+2019-08-15 22:00:51 den ,time
+2019-08-15 22:00:51 <-- ctrl-c.tilde.chat has kicked BitBot (Channel flood triggered (trigger is 10 lines in 20 secs))
+2019-08-15 22:00:53 den oh
+2019-08-15 22:00:54 npa lol
+2019-08-15 22:00:56 --> BitBot [BitBot] (BitBot) (bitbot@bitbot.dev) has joined #meta
+2019-08-15 22:01:01 den ,time
+2019-08-15 22:01:01 BitBot [Time] Time for den: 2019/08/16 05:01:01
+2019-08-15 22:01:03 den lol
+2019-08-15 22:01:07 npa jesus
+2019-08-15 22:01:11 den just travelling :))
+2019-08-15 22:01:17 npa is this staying up, or waking up early?
+2019-08-15 22:01:22 den staying up
+2019-08-15 22:01:24 den unfortunately
+2019-08-15 22:01:34 den because of coffee lol
+2019-08-15 22:02:26 den On the other hand, /opt is a directory where to install unbundled packages, each in its own subdirectory. They are already built whole packages provided by an independent third party software distributor. Unlike /usr/local stuff, these package follow the directory conventions. For example someapp would be installed in /opt/someapp with one of its command being /opt/someapp/bin/foo, its
+2019-08-15 22:02:28 den configuration file would be in /etc/opt/someapp/foo.conf, and its log files in /var/opt/someapp/logs/foo.access.
+2019-08-15 22:02:30 den interesting
+2019-08-15 22:02:36 den sorry about huge copy paste
+2019-08-15 22:02:57 den i knew about existence of /opt but didn't knew about it
+2019-08-15 22:03:06 den thx for making me research :)
+2019-08-15 22:04:00 npa lol np
+2019-08-15 22:04:08 den how should i encrypt it
+2019-08-15 22:04:13 den i think gpg will be suitable
+2019-08-15 22:04:15 den for it
+2019-08-15 22:04:26 den but with pubkey
+2019-08-15 22:07:43 npa good q
+2019-08-15 22:07:53 npa where are you backing up?
+2019-08-15 22:07:58 den aws ec2
+2019-08-15 22:08:01 den not s3
+2019-08-15 22:08:13 den since ec2 free tier gives more storage
+2019-08-15 22:08:16 den to my knowledg
+2019-08-15 22:08:22 npa hm
+2019-08-15 22:08:24 den s/knowledg/knowledge
+2019-08-15 22:08:24 timemachine to my knowledge
+2019-08-15 22:08:28 den maybe im wrong
+2019-08-15 22:08:30 npa have you looked into tarsnap?
+2019-08-15 22:08:35 npa it's relatively cheap
+2019-08-15 22:08:37 den yes i know about it
+2019-08-15 22:08:43 den they have a blue background website
+2019-08-15 22:08:48 den last time i visit
+2019-08-15 22:09:00 den let me check now :)
+2019-08-15 22:09:13 npa or duplicity
+2019-08-15 22:09:24 npa your best bet is to use some automated service
+2019-08-15 22:10:11 den i dont want to use software i dont write usually
+2019-08-15 22:10:20 den but when reinventing wheel im trying to make it better
+2019-08-15 22:11:27 den im not sure i can make a better duplicity but i can make one which is better for me
+2019-08-15 22:12:07 den but i will still look into duplicity
+2019-08-15 22:12:09 den lol
+2019-08-15 22:13:05 den tarsnap have a client yay :D
+2019-08-15 22:14:22 login check it out: https://www.backblaze.com
+2019-08-15 22:14:24 BitBot [Title] The Best Unlimited Online Backup and Cloud Storage Services - https://ttm.sh/Ts
+2019-08-15 22:24:41 <-- adium (~adium@187.181.130.100) has quit (quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
+2019-08-15 22:40:33 TechEmporium http://www.herne.com/
+2019-08-15 22:40:35 BitBot [Title] Shareware, freeware and more from Herne Data Systems Ltd. - https://ttm.sh/T9
+2019-08-15 22:40:36 TechEmporium My God...
+2019-08-15 22:41:01 TechEmporium A true HTML 3.2 site
+2019-08-15 22:41:22 TechEmporium With Comic Sans for the main font
+2019-08-15 22:43:45 npa magnificent
+2019-08-15 22:47:15 kirch beauty
+2019-08-15 22:53:36 lickthecheese i have now installed Arch Linux yay https://i.redd.it/oxo5nrp88ng31.jpg
+2019-08-15 22:54:35 TechEmporium Enjoying living on the bleeding edge?
+2019-08-15 22:55:16 kirch I didn't :/ bricked a few VMs w/ arch
+2019-08-15 22:55:46 lickthecheese how do you brick a vm? its a vm
+2019-08-15 22:56:56 TechEmporium lol
+2019-08-15 23:00:15 npa doesn't boot i guess
+2019-08-15 23:00:30 npa the bytes on disk act as a paperweight
+2019-08-15 23:00:37 TechEmporium Luckily it was a VM & not bare metal :P
+2019-08-15 23:00:37 npa a /very/ light paperweight
+2019-08-15 23:12:57 kirch re: herne.com .... CSS 1 & Created using Windows Notepad and Paintbrush
+2019-08-15 23:30:20 --> frigginglorious [frigginglorious] (frigginglorious) (~Thunderbir@71-82-147-112.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) has joined #meta
+2019-08-16 00:36:32 praetor what have I missed?
+2019-08-16 00:42:46 TechEmporium You missed me failing with 3 separate floppy disk sets of Windows 95
+2019-08-16 00:58:47 praetor :c
+2019-08-16 00:58:50 praetor that sucks
+2019-08-16 01:07:12 * jesopo picks up praetor
+2019-08-16 01:07:36 praetor hai jesopo
+2019-08-16 01:07:41 jesopo ^^
+2019-08-16 01:07:43 jesopo hey
+2019-08-16 01:07:48 jesopo u ok friend?
+2019-08-16 01:07:49 praetor what doin'?
+2019-08-16 01:07:52 jesopo :3
+2019-08-16 01:07:58 praetor yup. I'm just perfect
+2019-08-16 01:08:10 jesopo woke up early
+2019-08-16 01:08:14 praetor eww
+2019-08-16 01:08:16 jesopo feeling alright
+2019-08-16 01:08:21 jesopo had to wake up early
+2019-08-16 01:08:25 jesopo lots 2 do
+2019-08-16 01:08:40 praetor it's 00:00 here. I should go to bed, but I'm having fun, and...nightmares :(
+2019-08-16 01:08:47 jesopo headed to stay with friends later today so we can all head off on a roadtrip early tomorrow
+2019-08-16 01:08:52 praetor oh fun!
+2019-08-16 01:09:05 * jesopo gives praetor the fun they crave :D
+2019-08-16 01:09:11 praetor :D
+2019-08-16 01:17:16 robdrake working on a 2nd mimetest server, Fantasy / Kingdoms / PvP / Magic
+2019-08-16 01:29:36 praetor yay
+2019-08-16 01:33:46 robdrake ?
+2019-08-16 02:21:45 <-- frigginglorious (~Thunderbir@71-82-147-112.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) has quit (Connection closed)
+2019-08-16 02:42:54 npa another interview on hackerrank done, wew
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+2019-08-16 03:26:21 den good morning there
+2019-08-16 03:26:26 den ,time
+2019-08-16 03:26:27 BitBot [Time] Time for den: 2019/08/16 10:26:26
+2019-08-16 03:27:52 npa morning den
+2019-08-16 03:28:02 npa hope you at least slept for those 5 hours
+2019-08-16 03:28:45 den yep i did :)
+2019-08-16 03:28:57 den and still travelling...
+2019-08-16 03:30:45 den today will look into new project
+2019-08-16 03:30:52 den crypto-currency
+2019-08-16 03:30:59 den (in tilde)
+2019-08-16 03:32:14 ~fosslinux login: tildecoint ^^^^^
+2019-08-16 03:32:20 ~fosslinux we have a crypto-currency
+2019-08-16 03:32:29 ~fosslinux well at least on tilde.town
+2019-08-16 03:32:33 ~fosslinux tildecoin
+2019-08-16 03:33:17 den yep i know
+2019-08-16 03:33:23 den im planning to fork it
+2019-08-16 03:33:38 ~fosslinux ah
+2019-08-16 03:34:05 den adding some features
+2019-08-16 03:34:22 den like p2p lol
+2019-08-16 03:34:23 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-16 03:34:25 ~fosslinux may i suggest you pr back to upstream once you've added those features
+2019-08-16 03:34:27 ~fosslinux ,bef
+2019-08-16 03:34:27 BitBot [Ducks] fosslinux befriended a duck in 4.47 seconds! You've befriended 36 ducks in #meta!
+2019-08-16 03:34:46 den fosslinux: if i be successful
+2019-08-16 03:34:48 den yep
+2019-08-16 03:34:51 ~fosslinux coolio
+2019-08-16 03:35:06 --> severak [severak] (Severak) (~severak@89.203.221.170) has joined #meta
+2019-08-16 03:35:07 den but it will be project for me to learn more about blockchain
+2019-08-16 03:35:12 severak plop
+2019-08-16 03:35:14 den so im not expecting to be
+2019-08-16 03:35:14 ~fosslinux noice
+2019-08-16 03:35:16 ~fosslinux plop
+2019-08-16 03:37:13 den my tor exit node just hit 13gb
+2019-08-16 03:37:25 den in almost a day
+2019-08-16 03:40:15 npa ahriman's got rtcoin going, which is that crypto-one
+2019-08-16 03:40:24 npa login has tcoin, which isn't crypto
+2019-08-16 03:40:43 den oh yes
+2019-08-16 03:40:44 npa rtcoin is based off that rfc you may have seen
+2019-08-16 03:40:50 den rtcoin is rust based right?
+2019-08-16 03:40:53 npa ye
+2019-08-16 03:40:58 npa tcoin is c++
+2019-08-16 03:40:58 BitBot [Karma] tcoin is c now has 1 karma
+2019-08-16 03:41:00 den i liked it :D
+2019-08-16 03:41:01 npa lol
+2019-08-16 03:41:09 npa that's good!
+2019-08-16 03:41:37 den great tor exit didnt received any abuses in a day
+2019-08-16 03:41:39 den :D
+2019-08-16 03:41:47 den i wonder how it feels like
+2019-08-16 03:44:12 den hey i think some stuff yesterday about 51 attacks
+2019-08-16 03:44:28 den can blockchain be vulnerable when there is time to verify?
+2019-08-16 03:44:35 den 0s transactions i mean
+2019-08-16 03:44:37 den or near 0s
+2019-08-16 03:45:07 den liked that: Simple: Using ~coin should not require a PhD or vast knowledge of technical concepts, spending / using a ~coin should be as easy as using cash.
+2019-08-16 03:46:59 dokuja ,beg
+2019-08-16 03:46:59 BitBot [Echo] pwease pwease duck be mine uwu
+2019-08-16 03:47:17 ~fosslinux den: you hosting a tor exit node?
+2019-08-16 03:48:11 den fosslinux: yep
+2019-08-16 03:48:15 den started yestarday
+2019-08-16 03:48:19 ~fosslinux o dear
+2019-08-16 03:48:23 den s/yesterday/yesterday
+2019-08-16 03:48:23 timemachine hey i think some stuff yesterday about 51 attacks
+2019-08-16 03:48:31 den umm ok
+2019-08-16 03:48:32 ~fosslinux I honestly do not think that's a good idea
+2019-08-16 03:48:37 den s/yestarday/yesterday
+2019-08-16 03:48:37 timemachine started yesterday
+2019-08-16 03:48:40 den fosslinux: why?
+2019-08-16 03:48:49 den not doing it on ~best or my network
+2019-08-16 03:48:52 ~fosslinux copyright abuse? your issue
+2019-08-16 03:48:58 den safe harbor
+2019-08-16 03:49:14 den i recommend you reading exit abuse answers
+2019-08-16 03:49:24 den you are safe :)
+2019-08-16 03:49:36 den but it is probably going to be short-term project
+2019-08-16 03:49:55 den since i don't have lots of budget and already had a few domains with a vps
+2019-08-16 03:50:21 ~fosslinux hmm ok
+2019-08-16 03:50:27 den :D
+2019-08-16 03:50:30 ~fosslinux I still wouldn't personally do it
+2019-08-16 03:50:33 ~fosslinux but ok
+2019-08-16 03:50:39 ~fosslinux it's not as bad as I thought
+2019-08-16 03:50:47 den im having fun there :D
+2019-08-16 03:50:54 den they gift you a tshirt lol
+2019-08-16 03:50:59 den actually not doing for that
+2019-08-16 03:51:07 robdrake can anyone tell where I got the data for this file on theasylum https://termbin.com/q3b2
+2019-08-16 03:51:08 den just want to learn what it feels to receive abuse notice
+2019-08-16 03:51:25 den who
+2019-08-16 03:51:30 den you need to type who
+2019-08-16 03:51:37 den it is almost same
+2019-08-16 03:51:55 den lol where did you find it :D
+2019-08-16 03:51:58 den lots of ip addresses
+2019-08-16 03:52:04 den and not masked :O
+2019-08-16 03:52:16 den oh there was also another command for it
+2019-08-16 03:52:23 robdrake vandal attempts to theasylum
+2019-08-16 03:52:33 den really?
+2019-08-16 03:52:37 robdrake failed login attempts
+2019-08-16 03:52:44 den don't you installed fail2ban
+2019-08-16 03:53:00 robdrake J. Random Person trying to use a password to log in, and yes
+2019-08-16 03:53:23 den oh but we don't need to worry since there is only pubkey authentication
+2019-08-16 03:53:50 robdrake I'm just wondering where I got the data off of theasylum
+2019-08-16 03:54:00 robdrake studying data science
+2019-08-16 03:54:04 den lemme check that
+2019-08-16 03:54:11 den but you need to type who
+2019-08-16 03:54:16 den and anyone can see that data
+2019-08-16 03:54:29 den with typing who
+2019-08-16 03:54:40 den do you want it on a file?
+2019-08-16 03:55:46 robdrake it's in a file in my home dir
+2019-08-16 03:56:26 robdrake I'm just trying to find out how I produced that file, but I really need to go to bed
+2019-08-16 03:56:32 robdrake ,time
+2019-08-16 03:56:32 BitBot [Time] Time for robdrake: 2019/08/16 02:56:32
+2019-08-16 03:56:53 den hey see #theasylum please
+2019-08-16 04:15:12 southerntofu kirch: dumpster diving <3
+2019-08-16 04:20:42 southerntofu Jacob: why would you want a cashless society? that's a horrible future for undocumented people who will have no choice but starve to death :(
+2019-08-16 04:22:12 severak also cashless = more fragile to some glitches
+2019-08-16 04:22:28 southerntofu also, unrelated but what's your problem with trans people like me?
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+2019-08-16 04:27:26 southerntofu den: duplicity is your friend, reimplementing encrypted backups is rather complex :)
+2019-08-16 04:30:30 southerntofu den: if you want instant validation without sybil vulnerability you need a proper web of trust :)
+2019-08-16 04:32:03 southerntofu robdrake: why would you pulish all these people's IP addresses in a public chan? oO
+2019-08-16 04:32:18 * southerntofu whips robdrake with sysadmin responsibilities lol
+2019-08-16 04:33:04 * southerntofu finished the backlog :)
+2019-08-16 04:33:10 southerntofu plop severak
+2019-08-16 04:41:16 ~fosslinux southerntofu: ?? also, unrelated but what's your problem with trans people like me?
+2019-08-16 04:41:32 ~fosslinux who?
+2019-08-16 04:42:15 southerntofu gopher://silentmessengers.org
+2019-08-16 04:43:05 login in india they believe one thing, and kirk781 can attest: cash is king
+2019-08-16 04:43:05 southerntofu i mean he doesn't seem to promote outright genocide so i don't want to be insulting, but still it appears this person has an empathy problem towards trans persons :-/
+2019-08-16 04:43:06 * tomasino learns southerntofu is trans
+2019-08-16 04:43:07 login cash is anonymous
+2019-08-16 04:43:37 login with cash, your "creditworthiness" is not determined by the transactions your bank can monitor
+2019-08-16 04:43:38 southerntofu tomasino: it's not written on my face/nickname :P
+2019-08-16 04:44:01 ~tomasino southerntofu: you were previously an ungendered pink highlighted nick
+2019-08-16 04:44:27 southerntofu let's say i'm weird gendered so a neutral pronoun like "they" would be the best fit :P
+2019-08-16 04:44:45 ~tomasino Now you have transitioned from ungendered to opposite ungendered
+2019-08-16 04:45:32 southerntofu lol not sure what that means but that doesn't make me more uncomfortable with surrounding gender roles so i'll go with it ^^
+2019-08-16 04:46:49 ~tomasino Basically I don't know your trans direction. M->F F->M, or other, so knowing the trans but didn't actually reveal much
+2019-08-16 04:47:08 ~tomasino But in the internet you're just text
+2019-08-16 04:47:08 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-16 04:47:11 southerntofu ,bef
+2019-08-16 04:47:11 ~tomasino ,hug
+2019-08-16 04:47:11 BitBot [Ducks] southerntofu befriended a duck in 3.1 seconds! You've befriended 6 ducks in #meta!
+2019-08-16 04:47:12 BitBot [Ducks] tomasino: There was no duck!
+2019-08-16 04:47:20 ~tomasino Nice nab
+2019-08-16 04:47:31 southerntofu on the internet nobody knows you're a cat <3
+2019-08-16 04:47:46 ~tomasino Oooh, now you're a trans cat in my head
+2019-08-16 04:47:52 ~tomasino Let's go with this
+2019-08-16 04:48:00 severak :D
+2019-08-16 04:48:30 southerntofu lol a cat is something i'm not AFK but if that can help you picture me as a friendly being you can feed and pet every now and then i guess that's fine lol
+2019-08-16 04:49:07 severak but cats can be also really evil, if they want to
+2019-08-16 04:49:27 * southerntofu evil.
+2019-08-16 04:49:59 southerntofu anyway how's everyone this fine morning?
+2019-08-16 04:52:23 ~tomasino Good good
+2019-08-16 04:53:05 southerntofu yea, how did it go the other night with your geek friends talking about federation and such?
+2019-08-16 04:54:25 southerntofu did you actually meet the indieweb people you were mentioning?
+2019-08-16 04:54:28 ~tomasino Well! I hung out with a couple members of parliament here. Pirate party
+2019-08-16 04:55:11 southerntofu oh, does that exist on your side of the ocean as well?
+2019-08-16 04:55:20 ~tomasino One guy had played with it but the guy who had the most experience is in Berlin now
+2019-08-16 04:55:43 ~tomasino Yeah, Icelandic Pirates are very popular here
+2019-08-16 04:55:46 southerntofu around here there's a few friendly people but also some very naive members and others are just outright professional politicians, so they're not really taken seriously on the hacker scene..
+2019-08-16 04:56:13 southerntofu oh yes i heard it's a big party there? is it actually making any changes?
+2019-08-16 04:56:23 ~tomasino https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sm%C3%A1ri_McCarthy
+2019-08-16 04:56:24 BitBot [Title] Smári McCarthy - Wikipedia - https://ttm.sh/TN
+2019-08-16 04:57:17 ~tomasino It's a coalition government, so I'd classify then more as steering the ship away from corruption where possible. No major changes
+2019-08-16 04:57:57 southerntofu sounds like interesting people
+2019-08-16 04:58:12 severak We have also pirates in CZ. Some in parliament (about 10 of them).
+2019-08-16 04:58:19 southerntofu wait a pirate party agreed to colalesce with another party? doesn't sound very pirate lol
+2019-08-16 04:58:54 ~tomasino Haha
+2019-08-16 04:59:36 severak And we have Pirate Mayor in Prague! They actually did not win in Prague, but somewhat handled it from coalition which they are part of it.
+2019-08-16 04:59:40 southerntofu they should board the government and throw the corrupt elites down in the sea :D
+2019-08-16 04:59:55 southerntofu severak: and, are they doing any progress?
+2019-08-16 05:00:10 southerntofu like direct democracy, fighting the police, sharing wealth?
+2019-08-16 05:00:13 severak But the Pirate Mayor of Prague is actually good guy with sense of humor.
+2019-08-16 05:01:01 ~tomasino The pirates here are pushing for a new constitution
+2019-08-16 05:01:08 ~tomasino Very slowly getting traction
+2019-08-16 05:01:23 severak southerntofu: somewhat. They have limited political power.
+2019-08-16 05:01:31 ~tomasino But there's a lot of conservative block to shift.
+2019-08-16 05:02:10 southerntofu « The party's leadership expressed that it considers the left–right political spectrum to be obsolete »
+2019-08-16 05:02:13 southerntofu wtf?
+2019-08-16 05:02:27 southerntofu how is collectivization / private property "obsolete" ? lol
+2019-08-16 05:02:43 severak southerntofu: https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2019/jul/03/zdenek-hrib-the-czech-mayor-who-defied-china-taiwan
+2019-08-16 05:02:44 BitBot [Title] Zdeněk Hřib: the Czech mayor who defied China | Cities | The Guardian - https://ttm.sh/TH
+2019-08-16 05:02:53 southerntofu (usually that means « we agree with private property » when you say the questiiion of fighting the status quo is obsolete)
+2019-08-16 05:08:19 severak southerntofu: beacause dividing (only) to right-left actually does not reflect real situation very well
+2019-08-16 05:08:28 severak it's too simplistic model
+2019-08-16 05:10:15 southerntofu severak: it's not the only line of division but it's an important one we can't erase :P
+2019-08-16 05:11:41 * southerntofu reading the article..
+2019-08-16 05:13:31 southerntofu (how do you pronounce his name? weird r with reverse ^)
+2019-08-16 05:13:41 southerntofu (sorry i don't speak czech lol)
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+2019-08-16 05:22:57 southerntofu nice article severak !
+2019-08-16 05:23:09 southerntofu i wouldn't imagine such progressiev and courageous mayors around here lol
+2019-08-16 05:25:33 severak southerntofu: also it's notable that in his case this friendliness to Taiwan is a bit personal - he studied here
+2019-08-16 05:25:44 southerntofu yes that was mentioned in the article
+2019-08-16 05:26:08 southerntofu too bad the article ends with the suggestion China is a communist government while it's a capitalist hell...
+2019-08-16 05:26:16 southerntofu but otherwise a very nice read
+2019-08-16 05:26:26 southerntofu makes me want to move to Prague :P
+2019-08-16 05:26:28 severak southerntofu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OF_YfBQwAkQ - guy in this video introduces him in first sentence
+2019-08-16 05:26:28 BitBot [Youtube] 2. Zdeněk Hřib - Show Jana Krause 17. 4. 2019 (14:09) uploaded by Show Jana Krause, 188,075 views (598↑↓213) https://youtu.be/OF_YfBQwAkQ
+2019-08-16 05:30:32 southerntofu am i supposed to understand something? :P
+2019-08-16 05:31:14 severak southerntofu: only last two words are our mayor name, rest is pure Czech :D
+2019-08-16 05:31:39 l4p1n hellu
+2019-08-16 05:31:40 southerntofu ah ok that was in regards to how to pronounce it ^^
+2019-08-16 05:31:44 severak actually Å™ is the most hard czech letter, most foreigners cannot explain it
+2019-08-16 05:31:52 southerntofu rjib?
+2019-08-16 05:32:04 southerntofu hey l4p1n
+2019-08-16 05:32:15 l4p1n how's ya?
+2019-08-16 05:32:19 severak (even my two russian friends which otherwise speak good czech have some problems with Å™)
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+2019-08-16 08:57:58 den hi there
+2019-08-16 08:59:13 den ,w
+2019-08-16 08:59:13 BitBot [Weather|den] (Fatih, Istanbul, Marmara Region, Turkey) 25C/77F | Scattered Clouds | Humidity: 54% | Wind: 24.1KMh/15.0MPh
+2019-08-16 08:59:14 jesopo ben: when you're awake - can you confirm when the last successful gitea hook hit bitbot?
+2019-08-16 08:59:19 den ,time
+2019-08-16 08:59:20 BitBot [Time] Time for den: 2019/08/16 15:59:20
+2019-08-16 08:59:26 den guys finally at istanbul
+2019-08-16 08:59:30 jesopo ,time
+2019-08-16 08:59:30 BitBot [Time] Time for jesopo: 2019/08/16 13:59:30
+2019-08-16 08:59:43 den is it uk
+2019-08-16 08:59:47 den ,w jesopo
+2019-08-16 08:59:47 BitBot [Weather|jesopo] (London, England, United Kingdom) 16C/62F | Shower Rain | Humidity: 68% | Wind: 22.3KMh/13.9MPh
+2019-08-16 08:59:51 den cool
+2019-08-16 08:59:57 jesopo :3
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+2019-08-16 09:05:01 den i will start a blog but please don't make fun of it lol
+2019-08-16 09:11:31 amcclure o/
+2019-08-16 09:13:25 ~tomasino yay blogs!
+2019-08-16 09:13:31 ~tomasino i assume you mean on gopher, called a phlog
+2019-08-16 09:19:10 krowbar hoi meta. i didn't know that i needed this but i do. https://github.com/dfrankland/pokemonsay
+2019-08-16 09:19:11 BitBot [Title] GitHub - dfrankland/pokemonsay: 👾 Pokemon version of cowsay with CLI and API. - https://ttm.sh/Tg
+2019-08-16 09:32:13 Jacob southerntofu: I don't want a cashless society?
+2019-08-16 09:32:40 Jacob The articles that I share are not because I agree with them, or because I disagree with them necessarily.
+2019-08-16 09:32:56 Jacob I just share them to show what's going on out there.
+2019-08-16 09:33:10 Jacob The arguments going back and forth between political parties, the laws being battled over, etc...
+2019-08-16 09:35:29 amcclure oh gopher?
+2019-08-16 09:35:39 amcclure blogs++
+2019-08-16 09:35:39 BitBot [Karma] blogs now has 1 karma
+2019-08-16 09:36:01 amcclure I'm planning on starting a blog myself :)
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+2019-08-16 09:39:09 southerntofu Jacob: that makes sense, sorry for ranting about earlier there's plenty of ways to have those discussions but my introduction wasn't the best way :P
+2019-08-16 09:39:31 southerntofu den: nice, can't wait for « This week in ~best #1 » :d
+2019-08-16 09:39:32 Jacob I put a disclaimer at the top to make sure that misunderstanding doesn't happen again
+2019-08-16 09:39:57 Jacob I know a lot of the news articles I post are enough to make your blood boil, but that's why they're there... not necessarily beacuse I agree with what's going on
+2019-08-16 09:40:52 southerntofu have you considered having separate categories/pages for what you approve of and what you don't? ^^"
+2019-08-16 09:41:52 Jacob Well, I add a comment where it's relevant to throw my own two cents, but that isn't alwyas needed
+2019-08-16 09:41:57 Jacob Hopefully a disclaimer will be enough.
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+2019-08-16 09:45:31 lickthecheese oof i only have 10 f keys on my chromebook's keyboard..... how am i going to press f11?
+2019-08-16 09:45:47 lickthecheese btw i installed arch on it
+2019-08-16 10:03:23 sarmonsiill Anyone got any fun weekend -projects?
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+2019-08-16 10:10:14 l4p1n sarmonsiill had some fun this week reinstalling my infrastructure from bare metal to containers
+2019-08-16 10:14:20 sarmonsiill l4p1n: cool. I went through the container-swamp about 3-4 years ago but it didn't stick. Not in anyway calling it bad though
+2019-08-16 10:14:51 sarmonsiill I understand the purpose and most benefits. I think that I'm just not into DevOps and similar these days.
+2019-08-16 10:15:04 l4p1n still better than everythong-on-bare-metal
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+2019-08-16 10:31:12 den southerntofu: nice subject lol
+2019-08-16 10:31:16 den hi again btw
+2019-08-16 10:31:43 den umm there is something wrong i need to exit and login back
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+2019-08-16 10:34:17 robdrake Hello #meta
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+2019-08-16 10:48:58 ~ben goob mornign
+2019-08-16 10:49:46 robdrake hello ben
+2019-08-16 10:50:10 den hey ben
+2019-08-16 10:50:39 ~ben o/
+2019-08-16 10:51:12 den lol using openbox with lubuntu
+2019-08-16 10:51:27 den i think thats not worse :D
+2019-08-16 10:52:07 southerntofu den: yes if you make one like this every week moar and moar people will want to join your server :P
+2019-08-16 10:52:46 den does it includes you? :))
+2019-08-16 10:53:02 den jk know you are going to stay with thunix
+2019-08-16 10:53:02 southerntofu maybe? :P
+2019-08-16 10:53:26 den cool
+2019-08-16 10:53:29 den then
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+2019-08-16 11:07:15 jesopo mrow
+2019-08-16 11:07:52 mhj Good meowning all
+2019-08-16 11:08:17 ~ben mroewf
+2019-08-16 11:09:11 * southerntofu hugs these lovely lovity IRC cats.
+2019-08-16 11:09:21 * den chops onions
+2019-08-16 11:09:26 * den gives onions to southerntofu
+2019-08-16 11:09:40 mhj Heyo ben
+2019-08-16 11:09:40 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-16 11:09:42 den ,bef
+2019-08-16 11:09:42 southerntofu ,bef
+2019-08-16 11:09:42 BitBot [Ducks] den befriended a duck in 2.25 seconds! You've befriended 5 ducks in #meta!
+2019-08-16 11:09:42 BitBot [Ducks] southerntofu: There was no duck!
+2019-08-16 11:09:42 ~ben ,bef
+2019-08-16 11:09:43 mhj ,bef
+2019-08-16 11:09:43 BitBot [Ducks] ben: There was no duck!
+2019-08-16 11:09:43 BitBot [Ducks] mhj: There was no duck!
+2019-08-16 11:09:44 ~ben henlo
+2019-08-16 11:09:45 mhj aww
+2019-08-16 11:09:47 den umm ok
+2019-08-16 11:09:49 den lol
+2019-08-16 11:09:57 * southerntofu loves onions. Tor <3
+2019-08-16 11:10:10 den there is secret service inside tor
+2019-08-16 11:10:14 den they call it hidden service :O
+2019-08-16 11:10:38 southerntofu they're usually called onion services, because not all onion services are hidden (see single onion services)
+2019-08-16 11:10:47 den yep
+2019-08-16 11:10:51 southerntofu even when they're not hidden they provide strong autentication/encryption
+2019-08-16 11:10:55 den SomeHopOnlyOneStuff 1
+2019-08-16 11:10:56 mhj Hey ben, any tips to running a personal email server so I can send spam to the tildes?
+2019-08-16 11:12:09 southerntofu mhj: you got a routable IP to a server and a domain name?
+2019-08-16 11:12:19 ~ben there's a list of stuff to stay reputable
+2019-08-16 11:12:31 ~ben rdns, spf, dkim, dmarc, spam filtering
+2019-08-16 11:12:59 mhj Well I mean, after seeing so many posts about running your own email server, I thought about making my own as well.
+2019-08-16 11:13:12 mhj southerntofu: right now I have nothing lol
+2019-08-16 11:13:13 den mailinabox.email
+2019-08-16 11:13:16 den or something like that
+2019-08-16 11:13:21 den https://mailinabox.email
+2019-08-16 11:13:22 BitBot [Title] Mail-in-a-Box - https://ttm.sh/Ta
+2019-08-16 11:13:28 den it is a script that makes all for you
+2019-08-16 11:13:35 mhj Ooh cool
+2019-08-16 11:13:39 southerntofu den: nah we're talking DIY stuff here not mammoth scripts :) (i mean unless that's what mhj wants)
+2019-08-16 11:13:48 southerntofu woops sorry then
+2019-08-16 11:13:51 den he is looking for simple thing i guess
+2019-08-16 11:13:54 den oh sorry
+2019-08-16 11:14:02 mhj Nah, I'm fine with DIY too
+2019-08-16 11:14:02 den s/he/mhj
+2019-08-16 11:14:02 timemachine mhj is looking for simple thing i guess
+2019-08-16 11:14:10 mhj I run Arch after all :)
+2019-08-16 11:14:14 den :))
+2019-08-16 11:14:19 southerntofu nice distro
+2019-08-16 11:14:26 den cool setup process
+2019-08-16 11:15:36 mhj But I'll check out mailinabox and also check out how to do DIY the long way
+2019-08-16 11:15:51 mhj So if I get stuck, I can fix it
+2019-08-16 11:15:59 den yep good idea
+2019-08-16 11:17:08 ~ben ya feel fre to holler if you have questions
+2019-08-16 11:17:28 ~ben my mail stack is postfix + dovecot + dovecot-sieve + dovecot-managesieved + rspamd + opendkim
+2019-08-16 11:17:49 mhj Re: Tor: I ran Tor for a while on a Digital Ocean instance for a while till I got bored, and then I created a Nextcloud instance I now use
+2019-08-16 11:18:10 login Does this Nextcloud instance also run tor?
+2019-08-16 11:18:25 mhj Cool, ben. I heard dovecot is kinda difficult to setup.
+2019-08-16 11:18:34 mhj login: nope :(
+2019-08-16 11:18:36 ~ben there are _tons_ of options
+2019-08-16 11:18:50 ~ben it's not tooo bad but it can be overwhelming
+2019-08-16 11:18:58 southerntofu mhj: you've got good summary docs here: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/dovecot
+2019-08-16 11:18:59 BitBot [Title] Dovecot - ArchWiki - https://ttm.sh/TO
+2019-08-16 11:19:10 southerntofu (same for postfix, archlinux docs are not bad)
+2019-08-16 11:19:13 login ,w dovecot
+2019-08-16 11:19:14 BitBot [Weather] (Liverpool, England, United Kingdom) 16C/61F | Light Intensity Shower Rain | Humidity: 93% | Wind: 22.3KMh/13.9MPh
+2019-08-16 11:19:18 login ,wiki dovecot
+2019-08-16 11:19:19 BitBot [Wikipedia] Dovecot: Dovecot may refer to: Dovecot, Liverpool
+2019-08-16 11:19:26 login ,g dovecot software
+2019-08-16 11:19:27 BitBot [Google] (dovecot software) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dovecot_(software)
+2019-08-16 11:19:32 login ,wiki dovecot software
+2019-08-16 11:19:32 BitBot [Wikipedia] No results found
+2019-08-16 11:19:41 login ,wiki dovecot_(software)
+2019-08-16 11:19:42 BitBot [Wikipedia] Dovecot (software): Dovecot is an open-source IMAP and POP3 server for Linux/UNIX-like systems, written primarily with security in mind. Timo Sirainen originated Dovecot and first released it in July 2002. Dovecot developers primarily aim to produce a lightweight, fast and easy-to-set-up open-source mailserver.
+2019-08-16 11:19:45 login there we go :)!!
+2019-08-16 11:19:51 login I love wikipedia
+2019-08-16 11:19:51 den :D cool
+2019-08-16 11:19:59 mhj Nice!
+2019-08-16 11:20:01 den i love gopherpedia
+2019-08-16 11:20:01 login imagine a wikipedia coin
+2019-08-16 11:20:03 southerntofu mhj: you could setup an onion service for your nextcloud :)
+2019-08-16 11:20:05 den credits to tomasino
+2019-08-16 11:20:06 login for contributing to wikipedia
+2019-08-16 11:20:17 login good work porting wikipedia to gopher, tomasino
+2019-08-16 11:20:32 mhj southerntofu: this is true :D
+2019-08-16 11:20:43 login you could set it up with mTLS
+2019-08-16 11:20:48 login that way, no passwords to log in!
+2019-08-16 11:21:49 mhj I've already setup the host server to only use keys when I ssh in, and when I login onto nextcloud I use 2 factor.
+2019-08-16 11:23:48 <-- frigginglorious (~Thunderbir@rrcs-24-206-45-122.midsouth.biz.rr.com) has quit (Connection closed)
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+2019-08-16 11:27:12 login 2 factor is like a weak key right?
+2019-08-16 11:28:59 ~tomasino hhrm? oh, i didn't make gopherpedia
+2019-08-16 11:29:04 ~tomasino i just link to it
+2019-08-16 11:29:14 ~tomasino um, who was it that made it now...
+2019-08-16 11:29:22 ~tomasino jynx maybe?
+2019-08-16 11:29:33 den muffinista
+2019-08-16 11:29:50 ~tomasino ahh, yes muffinista
+2019-08-16 11:30:09 den gophper
+2019-08-16 11:30:12 den stuff
+2019-08-16 11:31:27 mhj login: Yeah
+2019-08-16 11:31:39 robdrake Yeah know, I need a break from sysadmin / minetest 'stuff' and get back to my Phaser 3 tutorial
+2019-08-16 11:32:59 den make your own game?
+2019-08-16 11:33:02 robdrake s/tutorial/tutorials/
+2019-08-16 11:33:02 timemachine Yeah know, I need a break from sysadmin / minetest 'stuff' and get back to my Phaser 3 tutorials
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+2019-08-16 11:49:14 krowbar set Phaser 3 to "stunning"
+2019-08-16 11:58:34 praetor 'morning
+2019-08-16 12:07:45 --> jack3 [jack3] (jack) (the_kink@pool-71-255-184-186.slsbmd.east.verizon.net) has joined #meta
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+2019-08-16 12:42:44 den hi
+2019-08-16 12:47:36 echelon hiya den
+2019-08-16 12:52:42 --> Kitty [Kitty] (Kitty (https://ki.tty.sh/info)) (~meow@tilde.town) has joined #meta
+2019-08-16 12:56:39 login welcome, Kitty/meow
+2019-08-16 12:57:39 den meow
+2019-08-16 12:57:42 den :3
+2019-08-16 12:58:47 den Kitty lol https://ki.tty.sh/images/iOS_6_maps.gif
+2019-08-16 13:01:29 login how did you find this?
+2019-08-16 13:02:00 den lol
+2019-08-16 13:02:39 login lol?
+2019-08-16 13:02:56 echelon oh dear
+2019-08-16 13:03:11 den XKeyscore
+2019-08-16 13:04:00 den PRISM
+2019-08-16 13:04:16 login oh yeah, nsa ftw
+2019-08-16 13:04:27 login you should know the nsa-equivalent in your own country
+2019-08-16 13:04:27 den nsa is friendly right?
+2019-08-16 13:04:30 login because every country has it
+2019-08-16 13:04:44 login and it's often a very inconspicuous name
+2019-08-16 13:07:39 truth quack
+2019-08-16 13:07:42 truth hello meta
+2019-08-16 13:07:43 den hi
+2019-08-16 13:08:10 ~ben ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-16 13:08:18 den lol
+2019-08-16 13:08:55 * trinary trap ben
+2019-08-16 13:09:15 den /join #counting
+2019-08-16 13:09:26 truth - . _ . - ` ^ ` - =^.^= meow!
+2019-08-16 13:09:39 * tomasino hugs ben
+2019-08-16 13:09:40 ~ben #counting
+2019-08-16 13:09:43 * ben hug tomasino
+2019-08-16 13:09:53 * den hugs himself
+2019-08-16 13:09:58 * ben grouphug
+2019-08-16 13:10:12 * den goes #counting
+2019-08-16 13:10:53 echelon ...
+2019-08-16 13:11:50 den lol
+2019-08-16 13:12:38 southerntofu ,bef ben
+2019-08-16 13:12:39 BitBot [Ducks] southerntofu: There was no duck!
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+2019-08-16 13:12:43 ~ben aww
+2019-08-16 13:15:45 den meow
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+2019-08-16 13:15:48 den lolwut
+2019-08-16 13:15:53 den luck
+2019-08-16 13:16:04 den i said meow and kitty came
+2019-08-16 13:16:04 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-16 13:16:05 den ,bef
+2019-08-16 13:16:05 BitBot [Ducks] den befriended a duck in 1.6 seconds! You've befriended 6 ducks in #meta!
+2019-08-16 13:16:21 den ,trap ben
+2019-08-16 13:16:21 BitBot [Ducks] den: There was no duck!
+2019-08-16 13:18:58 ~ben meow
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+2019-08-16 13:36:01 echelon ut oh
+2019-08-16 13:36:03 echelon turkish invasion
+2019-08-16 13:36:04 echelon :P
+2019-08-16 13:38:53 den funny?
+2019-08-16 13:40:33 southerntofu not so funny to armenians, kurds and other ethnic minorities oppressed in turkey..
+2019-08-16 13:41:12 den I live in istanbul...
+2019-08-16 13:41:45 southerntofu and? you're not a fascist :P
+2019-08-16 13:41:53 den And I don't know and can't comment about those stuff, please just tell me something about computers.
+2019-08-16 13:42:11 southerntofu vim is good
+2019-08-16 13:42:15 den umm ok
+2019-08-16 13:42:38 den southerntofu++
+2019-08-16 13:42:38 BitBot [Karma] southerntofu now has 11 karma
+2019-08-16 13:42:46 den nano is good
+2019-08-16 13:42:52 den -1 please lol
+2019-08-16 13:43:00 southerntofu nano--
+2019-08-16 13:43:00 BitBot [Karma] nano now has -1 karma
+2019-08-16 13:43:06 den nano++
+2019-08-16 13:43:06 BitBot [Karma] nano now has 0 karma
+2019-08-16 13:43:15 den nano-ss
+2019-08-16 13:43:17 <-- echelon (~jlb@jesus.pizza) has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds)
+2019-08-16 13:43:17 den nano--
+2019-08-16 13:43:17 BitBot [Karma] nano now has -1 karma
+2019-08-16 13:43:19 den oh k
+2019-08-16 13:43:23 --> Feuerfuchs7 [Feuerfuchs] (Feuerfuchs) (~Feuerfuchs@encke.uberspace.de) has joined #meta
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+2019-08-16 13:43:37 den wow uberspace
+2019-08-16 13:43:39 Jacob Hooray! My car insurance is twenty bucks less per month!
+2019-08-16 13:43:40 den first time seen someone
+2019-08-16 13:43:56 den from uberspace
+2019-08-16 13:43:58 den on ~chat
+2019-08-16 13:44:02 den uberspace is cool place
+2019-08-16 13:44:04 southerntofu nice discount :)
+2019-08-16 13:45:51 amcclure hello
+2019-08-16 13:45:56 den hi
+2019-08-16 13:46:07 amcclure how go
+2019-08-16 13:46:23 den weird
+2019-08-16 13:46:51 den southerntofu: are there any other DNSManager instances?
+2019-08-16 13:47:05 southerntofu i think there's a few but i don't knwo them
+2019-08-16 13:47:19 southerntofu we need to setup more :)
+2019-08-16 13:47:39 den we can use sandstorm.site i guess
+2019-08-16 13:47:49 southerntofu what's that?
+2019-08-16 13:47:53 den my domain
+2019-08-16 13:48:02 southerntofu why sandstorm? you host a sandstorm server?
+2019-08-16 13:48:17 den random word
+2019-08-16 13:48:29 den was looking for one word domains
+2019-08-16 13:48:33 den and i liked it
+2019-08-16 13:48:55 den but another domain will be better
+2019-08-16 13:49:17 southerntofu https://sandstorm.io/
+2019-08-16 13:49:18 BitBot [Title] Sandstorm - https://ttm.sh/T6
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+2019-08-16 13:49:39 echelon weird
+2019-08-16 13:49:43 ~ben wb echelon
+2019-08-16 13:49:46 echelon pingin out
+2019-08-16 13:49:48 echelon strange
+2019-08-16 14:01:29 ~tomasino darude
+2019-08-16 14:09:46 login sandstorm
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+2019-08-16 14:23:36 echelon sandstorm?
+2019-08-16 14:23:54 ~ben https://sandstorm.io
+2019-08-16 14:23:56 BitBot [Title] Sandstorm - https://ttm.sh/TV
+2019-08-16 14:28:00 southerntofu love is stronger than borders & prisons <3
+2019-08-16 14:39:58 * praetor waves
+2019-08-16 14:47:02 hijackeel ,bef
+2019-08-16 14:47:02 BitBot [Ducks] hijackeel: There was no duck!
+2019-08-16 14:47:27 praetor aww
+2019-08-16 14:47:35 praetor you befriended 1 praetor in #meta
+2019-08-16 14:48:07 hijackeel haha
+2019-08-16 14:48:32 den [praetors] hijackeel: You befriended 1 praetor in #meta
+2019-08-16 14:49:04 praetor ahaha
+2019-08-16 14:50:21 hijackeel Do not try and befriend the duck. That's impossible. Instead only try to realize the truth: there is no duck.
+2019-08-16 14:50:38 praetor ethreal duckies
+2019-08-16 14:50:46 hijackeel digiducks
+2019-08-16 14:53:13 ~ben ducc
+2019-08-16 14:54:09 praetor quacc
+2019-08-16 14:54:21 ~ben nice ducc
+2019-08-16 14:55:49 praetor so I've been playing with scratch because I'm helping a buddy develope a computer science curriculm for 5th graders. It's pretty slick
+2019-08-16 14:56:00 ~ben oh nice
+2019-08-16 14:56:14 ~ben omfg madison cunningham's new album is stellar
+2019-08-16 14:56:27 * praetor is listening to She Wants Revenge
+2019-08-16 14:57:04 ~ben https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nQXtD48keI7vKFUpvzyskKvQNPZZRRq_g
+2019-08-16 14:57:04 BitBot [Youtube] YouTube - Who Are You Now (10 videos) https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nQXtD48keI7vKFUpvzyskKvQNPZZRRq_g
+2019-08-16 14:57:52 praetor I like how scratch expresses more complex ideas like object orientation. what's cool is how it triggers functions. It has a really simple pub-sub message bus for triggering functions
+2019-08-16 14:58:23 ~ben tbh i haven't actually played with it
+2019-08-16 14:58:53 praetor it's slick. you have blocks that represent code functions, like loops and logic, and you put them together like legos to make it do stuff
+2019-08-16 14:59:02 threv yeah it's basically smalltalk
+2019-08-16 14:59:03 threv with a gui
+2019-08-16 14:59:06 threv iirc :)
+2019-08-16 14:59:09 threv oh wait i'm thinking squeak
+2019-08-16 14:59:10 praetor pretty much
+2019-08-16 14:59:26 praetor I think scratch was written in smalltalk actually
+2019-08-16 15:03:03 ~ben oh nice
+2019-08-16 15:03:13 ~ben one of my undergrad profs has a huge hardon for smalltalk
+2019-08-16 15:03:41 praetor you know, I've been trying to learn lisp for years and for some reason it and its dialects just don't stick
+2019-08-16 15:03:44 ~ben he calls ruby "smalltalk in drag"
+2019-08-16 15:03:49 praetor ahahahaha
+2019-08-16 15:03:56 praetor it's kinda true
+2019-08-16 15:04:06 ~ben ya i haven't had much luck with any lisps either
+2019-08-16 15:04:17 ~ben no huge motivation to learn it i guess
+2019-08-16 15:05:18 praetor well, you either start your career one of 2 ways. either lisp languages, or C dialect language. Dr. Nemat taught me C dialects, so I'm better with those
+2019-08-16 15:05:26 praetor but I've hear lisp boys struggle with C
+2019-08-16 15:06:55 ~ben makes sense
+2019-08-16 15:07:02 ~ben lisp is definitely a minority in that sense
+2019-08-16 15:07:13 ~ben i started with a bit of java
+2019-08-16 15:07:36 praetor recent versions of java are pretty nice
+2019-08-16 15:07:52 ~ben oh i'm sure
+2019-08-16 15:07:59 praetor but oracle has done very little to optimize the runtime, so it's still pretty heavy.
+2019-08-16 15:08:08 ~ben i haven't had to do anything with it since freshman year of undergrad
+2019-08-16 15:08:09 praetor but the dalvik vm in android is pretty slick
+2019-08-16 15:09:46 praetor Dr. Nemat was my computer science teacher in high school. I don't mean for this to sound egotistic, but I'm a prodigy. Been doing this stuff since I was 9. So he spent 4 years solid cultivating my gift.
+2019-08-16 15:09:57 praetor so he taught me pascal first, then C, Java and then C++
+2019-08-16 15:09:59 BitBot [Karma] so he taught me pascal first, then C, Java and then C now has 1 karma
+2019-08-16 15:10:20 praetor nice :D
+2019-08-16 15:11:02 praetor Hypercard was my first language though :p
+2019-08-16 15:11:29 threv ben yeah def re: smalltalk in drag
+2019-08-16 15:11:29 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-16 15:11:31 threv ,bef
+2019-08-16 15:11:31 BitBot [Ducks] threv befriended a duck in 1.99 seconds! You've befriended 26 ducks in #meta!
+2019-08-16 15:11:36 threv i had a book on smalltalk 80
+2019-08-16 15:11:39 praetor yay threv :D
+2019-08-16 15:11:43 threv realized ruby's syntax is nigh identical
+2019-08-16 15:11:53 ~ben sure is :)
+2019-08-16 15:11:56 threv esp the |arg| { closure stuff }
+2019-08-16 15:12:01 ~ben that's cool praetor
+2019-08-16 15:12:08 threv yeah that's neat praetor
+2019-08-16 15:12:16 ~ben i guess i started with html etc in high school
+2019-08-16 15:12:26 ~ben but no non-markup languages til college
+2019-08-16 15:12:28 praetor he taught me everything I know :3
+2019-08-16 15:12:52 ~ben i just had a lot of goofy cs profs
+2019-08-16 15:13:14 hijackeel i started with python
+2019-08-16 15:13:38 ~ben nice
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+2019-08-16 15:13:52 hijackeel well I read a book on C before that. and I made something in C64 BASIC. but I didn't make anything useful until python.
+2019-08-16 15:13:54 ~ben a couple of my classmates were lobbying the profs to change the intro lang to py
+2019-08-16 15:13:55 praetor well, he was grooming me for MIT. he encouraged me to actually drop out of high school, for reasons, and join the air force so I could get a real CS education from a good school.
+2019-08-16 15:13:58 ~ben i wonder if that ever happened
+2019-08-16 15:14:06 praetor but that didn't happen
+2019-08-16 15:14:18 praetor I'm from a small town in Wyoming, and you are groomed to work in the oil fields
+2019-08-16 15:14:23 southerntofu praetor: so nowadays what kind of projects/languages are you working on? :)
+2019-08-16 15:14:28 praetor so joining the military is the only way to get a good education
+2019-08-16 15:14:53 praetor right now I'm doing alot with perl
+2019-08-16 15:14:57 threv wow
+2019-08-16 15:14:58 praetor perl++
+2019-08-16 15:14:58 BitBot [Karma] perl now has 1 karma
+2019-08-16 15:14:58 threv why?
+2019-08-16 15:15:02 threv not knocking it
+2019-08-16 15:15:09 threv python all but supplanted perl
+2019-08-16 15:15:22 praetor because for the time being I can't get python to run on irix
+2019-08-16 15:15:54 praetor there are older versions available in nekoware packages, but I want a new version
+2019-08-16 15:15:59 threv oh!
+2019-08-16 15:15:59 threv haha
+2019-08-16 15:16:05 threv that's a damn good reason :)
+2019-08-16 15:16:11 ~ben haha nice
+2019-08-16 15:16:17 praetor maybe one day I'll down a bunch of energy drinks and gabapentin and take a knock at it
+2019-08-16 15:16:27 ~ben i heard someone on freenode complaining that the py3 in debian was too old
+2019-08-16 15:16:29 ~ben and i was confused
+2019-08-16 15:16:37 praetor hmm. wow
+2019-08-16 15:16:39 southerntofu :o you're running irix?
+2019-08-16 15:16:40 ~ben it's on 3.7.3 in stable
+2019-08-16 15:16:50 praetor that's recent enough
+2019-08-16 15:16:56 praetor lemme see what we have in nekoware
+2019-08-16 15:17:03 ~ben it's the current afaik
+2019-08-16 15:17:06 praetor TO PRAETOR NFS TREASURE CACHE!
+2019-08-16 15:17:27 * southerntofu follows through the depths of the package repo
+2019-08-16 15:17:44 praetor 2.7.3 and 3.1.1
+2019-08-16 15:18:13 ~ben oh yikes
+2019-08-16 15:18:23 southerntofu that's old and dusty
+2019-08-16 15:18:25 ~ben debian is only one point-release behind current
+2019-08-16 15:18:27 ~ben very dusty
+2019-08-16 15:18:28 praetor yeah
+2019-08-16 15:18:50 praetor lemme consult the boys on sgidev
+2019-08-16 15:19:28 threv wow, 3.1.1
+2019-08-16 15:19:45 southerntofu ben: nice zic
+2019-08-16 15:19:52 ~ben zic?
+2019-08-16 15:20:30 southerntofu short for music, sorry french habit :)
+2019-08-16 15:20:44 praetor I know there's been work on a recent version because if we can get something newer we can get a discord client for irix
+2019-08-16 15:20:50 ~ben lol good to know
+2019-08-16 15:21:10 ~ben i found madison cunningham via andrew bird
+2019-08-16 15:21:13 ~ben v glad i did
+2019-08-16 15:22:07 southerntofu i wouldn't listen to that all day long but it's very soothing in a calm evening like tonight :)
+2019-08-16 15:26:01 southerntofu nice: https://blog.rust-lang.org/2019/08/15/Rust-1.37.0.html#referring-to-enum-variants-through-type-aliases
+2019-08-16 15:26:03 praetor k. they said we have 3.5.6 in packages
+2019-08-16 15:26:03 BitBot [Title] Announcing Rust 1.37.0 | Rust Blog - https://ttm.sh/Tx
+2019-08-16 15:26:18 southerntofu i was trying to do that the other day it didn't work i was disappointed but now it's been stabilized :)
+2019-08-16 15:26:27 praetor oh sweet
+2019-08-16 15:26:30 praetor rust is so nice
+2019-08-16 15:27:09 southerntofu especially now that you can match a `self` enum 's type <3
+2019-08-16 15:27:52 southerntofu this just removes boilerplate code/macro when te implementation of the different variant is actually quite similar
+2019-08-16 15:28:31 southerntofu i'm thinking error coalescing into higher-level errors especially
+2019-08-16 15:29:53 * praetor goes into thinking mode
+2019-08-16 15:30:29 praetor see, the problem with the uucp network is I have to write scripts that will work on damned near everything, because I have damned near everything wanting to join. and perl is on damned near everything
+2019-08-16 15:30:45 southerntofu rust is not :(
+2019-08-16 15:30:49 praetor no :(
+2019-08-16 15:30:50 praetor sadly
+2019-08-16 15:31:59 praetor I mean, we've got IRIX, an AIX box, and a guy with VMS wants to join
+2019-08-16 15:32:00 praetor so
+2019-08-16 15:32:01 praetor yeah
+2019-08-16 15:33:05 praetor someone suggested putting a haiku box up on there, which would be silly, and silly is cool. the network is for silliness :D
+2019-08-16 15:33:26 southerntofu praetor: is providing a reference implementation in rust and letting others come up with a C/perl replacement an option?
+2019-08-16 15:33:31 southerntofu oh haiku is sweet
+2019-08-16 15:33:54 praetor what do you mean?
+2019-08-16 15:34:23 southerntofu well i don't know exactly what you're trying to do with UUCP but i'm assuming you're writing new client/server software?
+2019-08-16 15:34:29 trinary You could try to compile your Rust application to C with mrustc
+2019-08-16 15:34:33 praetor no
+2019-08-16 15:34:33 praetor I'm not
+2019-08-16 15:34:34 trinary That may or may not cause you a lot of pain though
+2019-08-16 15:34:42 southerntofu oh sorry what are you doing then?
+2019-08-16 15:34:59 praetor I'm not doing anything with Taylor UUCP....yet. Even though I have the original developers blessing to do so
+2019-08-16 15:35:23 praetor right now I'm writing scripts that keep tier 1 hosts ssh updated and performs basic health checks on the network
+2019-08-16 15:35:38 southerntofu ah ok :)
+2019-08-16 15:35:38 praetor southerntofu, https://uucp.dataforge.tk
+2019-08-16 15:36:00 southerntofu yes i stumbled upon this website a few months back i was really intersted (although i have very little knowledge of uucp)
+2019-08-16 15:36:28 praetor :D that's my project :D
+2019-08-16 15:36:35 southerntofu so cool!
+2019-08-16 15:36:37 southerntofu praetor++
+2019-08-16 15:36:38 BitBot [Karma] praetor now has 4 karma
+2019-08-16 15:36:43 southerntofu nah karma's no good
+2019-08-16 15:36:43 praetor yay :D
+2019-08-16 15:36:49 * southerntofu offers praetor some proper datalove <3
+2019-08-16 15:36:58 praetor awww :3
+2019-08-16 15:37:02 * praetor loves datalove <3
+2019-08-16 15:37:34 praetor the idea is that the network will be self-healing. something that the original uucp network definately was not
+2019-08-16 15:37:44 praetor think BGP for uucp. but that's a ways away
+2019-08-16 15:37:44 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-16 15:37:48 praetor ,bef
+2019-08-16 15:37:48 BitBot [Ducks] praetor befriended a duck in 3.62 seconds! You've befriended 29 ducks in #meta!
+2019-08-16 15:37:51 praetor yay :D
+2019-08-16 15:37:58 praetor ducc
+2019-08-16 15:38:11 southerntofu i'm just curious as to how the power is distributed through the network
+2019-08-16 15:38:31 praetor power?
+2019-08-16 15:38:38 southerntofu from what i read it sounded a lot like DNS? like central hierarchy but with delegation of power so central to the protocol that the result is actually mostly decentralized?
+2019-08-16 15:38:48 southerntofu well naming for instance
+2019-08-16 15:38:57 southerntofu how does UUCP do naming on the network?
+2019-08-16 15:39:24 praetor yeah. it's decentralized. each tier1 node has it's own graph hierarchy, so they themselves can become independent, yet connected uucp networks
+2019-08-16 15:39:29 praetor uucp has bang paths
+2019-08-16 15:39:37 praetor like dataforge!wfisher
+2019-08-16 15:39:38 southerntofu so like DNS with dot paths? :P
+2019-08-16 15:39:48 southerntofu oh read LTR not RTL?
+2019-08-16 15:40:13 praetor yeah the bang path addresses go from host!host!host!user
+2019-08-16 15:40:14 southerntofu (somehow that makes more sense :P)
+2019-08-16 15:40:32 southerntofu but the bang is unintuitive to me
+2019-08-16 15:40:37 southerntofu i don't want to scream out my URLs lol
+2019-08-16 15:40:40 threv ahaha
+2019-08-16 15:41:05 praetor well, if I can do some more intelligent routing, the bang paths will be more conscise
+2019-08-16 15:41:06 southerntofu but i guess any client could implement syntaxic sugar by transparently turning dots to !
+2019-08-16 15:41:31 southerntofu praetor: what would you think of using standard domain names for UUCP hosts?
+2019-08-16 15:41:33 praetor oh yeah
+2019-08-16 15:41:38 southerntofu (i don't mean DNS)
+2019-08-16 15:42:00 southerntofu (i mean reserving a special-use top-level domain and using it to interoperate with services who speak domain names)
+2019-08-16 15:42:29 praetor well, all the tier 1 hosts are connected via ssh over TCP, obviously, and their domainnames are the endpoint for that. uucp is retarded that way.
+2019-08-16 15:42:29 southerntofu (like `tier1.host.host2.user.uucp`
+2019-08-16 15:42:45 praetor well, I shoudn't say retarded because DNS did not exists when UUCP was hugely popular
+2019-08-16 15:43:03 praetor now that would be some cool shit
+2019-08-16 15:43:18 southerntofu praetor: that could take placewith IP instead of DNS right? so DNS is usually used to bootstrap the UUCP network but it's not required?
+2019-08-16 15:43:31 praetor yup
+2019-08-16 15:43:31 southerntofu praetor: that's what tor did with .onion for instance :)
+2019-08-16 15:43:44 praetor oh nice
+2019-08-16 15:44:18 praetor I could make taylor uucp do that, but here's the problem. it's non-standard
+2019-08-16 15:44:19 praetor and.
+2019-08-16 15:44:26 southerntofu they used it as they liked with well-defined specs and then a few years later they submitted an IETF RFC which reserved .onion as a special-use domain that the DNS cannot claim :)
+2019-08-16 15:44:46 praetor the only way I can get people like cameron kaiser and SDF (when I'm not still mad at smj) onboard is if they can use the stock unix uucp package
+2019-08-16 15:45:28 southerntofu well backswards-compatibility can be kept
+2019-08-16 15:45:36 * praetor nods
+2019-08-16 15:45:38 southerntofu what i'm saying here is mostly client-side concerns so far
+2019-08-16 15:46:38 southerntofu and if there needs at some point to be a protocol change in order to add many new features then we can always use a new port and keep the previous port open for legacy support
+2019-08-16 15:47:18 southerntofu and so how does key discovery work with UUCP? because i read there's PGP support
+2019-08-16 15:48:25 * southerntofu spamming the chan with ideas again. maybe there's a dedicated issue tracker?
+2019-08-16 15:48:38 praetor we have a chat room!
+2019-08-16 15:48:41 praetor join #uucp
+2019-08-16 15:49:11 praetor ben has been gracious enough to let me use team for shenannigans :3
+2019-08-16 15:49:23 southerntofu cool
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+2019-08-16 16:09:23 echelon praetor:
+2019-08-16 16:09:36 echelon does uucp require multicasting?
+2019-08-16 16:12:43 echelon praetor: 404'd!! http://uucp.dataforge.tk/~uucp/wiki/index.php?n=Main.Tier1
+2019-08-16 16:12:44 BitBot [Title] 404 - Not Found - https://ttm.sh/pD
+2019-08-16 16:15:46 login that's a good question, about uucp
+2019-08-16 16:16:19 southerntofu why would uucp require multicasting? they say apparently they use SSH as a transport at te moment
+2019-08-16 16:25:46 login UUCP using SSH as a transport?
+2019-08-16 16:25:55 vantablack ben: hey the tilde.chat mumble is down again
+2019-08-16 16:26:07 login how would they do that without authorized_keys on every combination of two parties?
+2019-08-16 16:28:24 ~ben restaryed
+2019-08-16 16:28:58 vantablack ben: infinite thanks :D
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+2019-08-16 16:31:17 southerntofu login: not sure of the specifics i'm also interested in more details
+2019-08-16 16:37:21 praetor yeah. I need to fix the wiki
+2019-08-16 16:37:40 praetor and no, echelon it doesn't require multicasting
+2019-08-16 16:38:15 praetor login: the ssh key exchange is what I've been working on
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+2019-08-16 17:35:23 ~ben np vantablack
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+2019-08-16 19:24:01 * praetor hugs ben
+2019-08-16 19:24:37 praetor I'm kinda high so I wanna hug everyone
+2019-08-16 19:24:40 * praetor hugs everyone
+2019-08-16 19:27:53 southerntofu aaawww
+2019-08-16 19:30:06 mhj I hate hugs. I prefer hangry mugshots with a polaroid camera
+2019-08-16 19:30:22 mhj Jk :P :D
+2019-08-16 19:30:29 praetor hahaha
+2019-08-16 19:31:07 * southerntofu hugs mhj and praetor with plenty of datalove
+2019-08-16 19:31:36 southerntofu sorry i ruined our angry mugshot :P
+2019-08-16 19:31:42 mhj lol
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+2019-08-16 19:42:38 * ben grouphug
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+2019-08-16 19:43:30 * patrick grouphug
+2019-08-16 19:43:59 southerntofu many hugs, much wow
+2019-08-16 19:51:45 patrick the party I had last week went alright, I was the only one that thought of bringing food to a party of 10 people
+2019-08-16 19:51:56 patrick like bruh who raised these folks lol
+2019-08-16 19:51:59 ~ben ouch
+2019-08-16 19:52:01 ~ben kids these days
+2019-08-16 19:52:37 patrick yeah like they knew that many people were coming
+2019-08-16 19:52:46 patrick so there was eight of us in the end
+2019-08-16 19:58:02 ~ben lol people suck
+2019-08-16 19:59:08 patrick they ate all my food
+2019-08-16 19:59:36 patrick i brought fucking oreos, nachos with the salsa, hi-chew, and ice tea
+2019-08-16 19:59:49 patrick bruh I wish i kept the oreos and hi-chew to myself now
+2019-08-16 20:00:05 ~ben oooof
+2019-08-16 20:00:15 ~ben should've made them order pizza or something
+2019-08-16 20:00:22 patrick the party was otherwise okay but damn
+2019-08-16 20:00:35 patrick to be fair one of them ordered two pizzas
+2019-08-16 20:00:37 patrick but that's it lol
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+2019-08-16 20:04:02 patrick I bought some nice lego from bricklink
+2019-08-16 20:14:14 vantablack yo i finished spiking my bag
+2019-08-16 20:14:15 vantablack https://cybre.space/@vantablack/102629415664563217
+2019-08-16 20:14:16 BitBot [Title] no gods, no managers: "THE FINISHED PRODUCT" - Cybrespace - https://ttm.sh/pE
+2019-08-16 20:15:11 patrick oh you really did spike your bag XD
+2019-08-16 20:25:16 ~khuxkm|lounge spikey
+2019-08-16 20:28:57 TechEmporium_ That looks like a comfy pillow
+2019-08-16 20:42:57 amcclure good evening
+2019-08-16 21:04:13 ~ben nice vanta
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+2019-08-16 21:46:43 TechEmporium_ I am about to murder that old laptop
+2019-08-16 21:47:02 TechEmporium_ Something's up with the way it reads archives
+2019-08-16 21:47:35 TechEmporium_ Every time I go to install Windows 95 from floppies, it always jams up on disk 6 of 22
+2019-08-16 21:48:01 TechEmporium_ Even when I make a new set of floppies with 28 in the set, disk 6 screws up
+2019-08-16 21:48:06 ~ben oof
+2019-08-16 21:48:09 ~ben what a party
+2019-08-16 21:48:15 ~ben i'm still working on my nameserver setup
+2019-08-16 21:48:29 TechEmporium_ And there's no CD drive, no USB, only serial, parallel & PCMCIA
+2019-08-16 21:48:31 ~ben i have too many damn domains
+2019-08-16 21:48:35 ~ben yeouch
+2019-08-16 21:48:35 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-16 21:48:37 ~ben ,bef
+2019-08-16 21:48:37 BitBot [Ducks] ben befriended a duck in 2.28 seconds! You've befriended 127 ducks in #meta!
+2019-08-16 21:48:38 TechEmporium_ ,bef
+2019-08-16 21:48:38 BitBot [Ducks] TechEmporium_: There was no duck!
+2019-08-16 21:48:42 TechEmporium_ Damn
+2019-08-16 21:48:46 ~ben heh
+2019-08-16 21:48:56 ~ben how old is this box
+2019-08-16 21:49:05 TechEmporium_ NEC Versa 2000D laptop
+2019-08-16 21:49:16 TechEmporium_ I think 1994 or 1995
+2019-08-16 21:49:16 ~ben damn dude
+2019-08-16 21:49:23 ~ben that may or may not be older than me
+2019-08-16 21:49:32 TechEmporium_ 20 MB of RAM & a 344 MB hard drive
+2019-08-16 21:49:34 ~fosslinux xD
+2019-08-16 21:49:34 ~ben depending on the month
+2019-08-16 21:49:47 ~ben fk yea
+2019-08-16 21:49:49 TechEmporium_ 486SL
+2019-08-16 21:50:13 ~fosslinux TechEmporium_: why 6 of 22?
+2019-08-16 21:50:18 ~fosslinux mayybe disk 6 is defective
+2019-08-16 21:50:42 TechEmporium_ I have no clue. It's not even the disk; I change floppies & write the file, I verify the file's hash & it matches
+2019-08-16 21:50:54 ~fosslinux weirdddd
+2019-08-16 21:51:02 TechEmporium_ I've tried it with multiple floppies, multiple images casted onto the floppies...
+2019-08-16 21:51:16 ~fosslinux maybe the IMAGE you have is defective!
+2019-08-16 21:51:30 TechEmporium_ All 8 set of images?
+2019-08-16 21:51:38 ~fosslinux oh
+2019-08-16 21:51:41 TechEmporium_ lol
+2019-08-16 21:51:43 ~fosslinux you downloaded 8 different images?
+2019-08-16 21:51:46 TechEmporium_ Yes
+2019-08-16 21:51:48 ~fosslinux oh
+2019-08-16 21:52:20 TechEmporium_ The only way I can do it now is to format the 344 MB drive, then boot off of a DOS floppy, run LapLink & setup a serial file server to manually copy the archives off of a CD
+2019-08-16 21:52:31 TechEmporium_ Via RS-232
+2019-08-16 21:52:45 TechEmporium_ Because I have no null-modem parallel cable
+2019-08-16 21:52:51 ~ben yikes
+2019-08-16 21:52:56 TechEmporium_ Ja
+2019-08-16 21:52:59 ~ben one might ask "why bother"
+2019-08-16 21:53:03 TechEmporium_ Ist ficken
+2019-08-16 21:53:09 ~ben :s
+2019-08-16 21:53:26 ~fosslinux ist ficken?
+2019-08-16 21:53:34 TechEmporium_ German for "It's fucked"
+2019-08-16 21:53:37 ~fosslinux o
+2019-08-16 21:53:39 ~ben not quite
+2019-08-16 21:53:52 ~ben ficken = to fuck
+2019-08-16 21:53:56 TechEmporium_ Ah
+2019-08-16 21:54:02 TechEmporium_ "It's to fuck"
+2019-08-16 21:54:04 ~ben "it's to fuck"
+2019-08-16 21:54:06 ~ben lol
+2019-08-16 21:54:07 TechEmporium_ lol
+2019-08-16 21:54:19 ~ben verfickt is probably what you want
+2019-08-16 21:54:46 TechEmporium_ I have no network card on the machine & the one PCMCIA network card I have doesn't have the packet driver for it
+2019-08-16 21:55:15 TechEmporium_ Of course the wireless PCMCIA cards I have won't work on a DOS machine
+2019-08-16 21:55:16 ~ben total verfickt
+2019-08-16 21:56:04 TechEmporium_ Well... It looks like I might have to grab Windows for Workgroup of seek out a floppy-based Linux set
+2019-08-16 21:56:11 TechEmporium_ Any suggestions?
+2019-08-16 21:56:24 TechEmporium_ N-not tomsrtbt
+2019-08-16 21:56:55 TechEmporium_ Or... Wait a minute... :| I forgot I had the entire mirror of China DOS Union
+2019-08-16 21:56:58 TechEmporium_ Fuck lol
+2019-08-16 21:57:26 TechEmporium_ I guess I'm good then; I have a solution now (hacked Windows 98 via DOS 7.10)
+2019-08-16 21:58:16 praetor hey ben
+2019-08-16 21:58:24 praetor can you help me set butt back up for tilderadio?
+2019-08-16 21:58:31 praetor or deepend or someone
+2019-08-16 22:00:47 TechEmporium_ Gentleman; I received excellent news from the world of TempleOS
+2019-08-16 22:01:10 TechEmporium_ Shrine, the networked version of TempleOS, now has a web server called Selaphiel
+2019-08-16 22:01:28 ~ben I just left to go to the bars
+2019-08-16 22:01:41 TechEmporium_ https://ring0.checksum.fail/
+2019-08-16 22:01:41 ~ben if I don't pass out right away when I get home I can help you out praetor
+2019-08-16 22:01:42 BitBot [Title] Welcome - https://ttm.sh/pQ
+2019-08-16 22:01:52 praetor I think I figured it out
+2019-08-16 22:01:54 TechEmporium_ This website is hosted from a fork of TempleOS
+2019-08-16 22:01:59 ~ben ok cool
+2019-08-16 22:02:02 ~ben lol nice
+2019-08-16 22:02:08 praetor be safe, okay <3
+2019-08-16 22:02:57 ~ben hehe ok :')
+2019-08-16 22:03:12 ~ben not driving so all good
+2019-08-16 22:03:27 ~ben not even biking either lol
+2019-08-16 22:06:33 TechEmporium_ If anyone here is interested in development of TempleOS & networking it, making it more usable to the general public & other things... And if you have no problem with Discord, I can send anyone an invite to the Discord server I'm on
+2019-08-16 22:06:44 ~tomasino BICYCLE!!! Race.
+2019-08-16 22:07:05 TechEmporium_ It's a server that's separate from the now-toxic official TempleOS Discord server, with only 4 members including myself
+2019-08-16 22:07:53 TechEmporium_ tomasino: https://ring0.checksum.fail/
+2019-08-16 22:07:54 BitBot [Title] Welcome - https://ttm.sh/pQ
+2019-08-16 22:07:56 TechEmporium_ What do you think?
+2019-08-16 22:12:52 ~tomasino :D
+2019-08-16 22:17:38 TechEmporium_ This is amazing, if you ask me. I know Terry Davis would be spinning in his grave, but yeah
+2019-08-16 22:17:54 ~khuxkm is it written in holyc?
+2019-08-16 22:18:02 ~khuxkm if so, then I don't think so
+2019-08-16 22:33:35 <-- codingquark (~codingquar@103.30.226.158) has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds)
+2019-08-16 22:38:21 kirch ha, TechEmporium_ - that's awesome... isn't it all made in his own version of C?
+2019-08-16 22:53:40 praetor does anyone know what the mountpoint should be for tilderadio?
+2019-08-16 22:55:24 radiobot praetor is now online playing (praetor) now playing: Loyalty Freak Music - Don't listen to the words they say ~~ 1 listeners! tune in now here: https://tilderadio.org/listen
+2019-08-16 22:56:46 TechEmporium_ It is, kirch: a dialect of C called HolyC, which the OS also interprets in the same way Commodore 64 machines interpret BASIC
+2019-08-16 23:09:30 TechEmporium_ khuxkm: what's your take on it?
+2019-08-16 23:10:19 TechEmporium_ I'm honestly impressed with the fact that the entire OS is just-in-time compiled upon boot, yet it still boots faster than Linux, BSD, Windows or macOS
+2019-08-16 23:10:48 TechEmporium_ But yeah; the entire OS is written in HolyC
+2019-08-16 23:11:06 TechEmporium_ Well, not the entire OS; parts of it were written in ASM as well
+2019-08-16 23:12:00 BitBot [RSS] tilde news: Newest Stories: How AI is Making Work More Human by amcclure@users.tilde.news (amcclure) - https://blogs.oracle.com/oraclehcm/how-ai-is-making-work-more-human
+2019-08-16 23:13:38 TechEmporium_ "How AI is making work more human" - Computers are now starting to request stress leave from their managers
+2019-08-16 23:14:13 TechEmporium_ They're also starting to report coworkers for inapropriate touching of their ports
+2019-08-16 23:15:38 ~khuxkm r/nottheonion
+2019-08-16 23:20:38 patrick wow that is incredible!! :O
+2019-08-16 23:21:25 patrick TechEmporium: I would be interested in a discord link,
+2019-08-16 23:21:42 patrick TechEmporium_
+2019-08-16 23:21:51 amcclure khuxkm: it's a real article though...
+2019-08-16 23:25:57 TechEmporium_ patrick: https://discord.gg/gsybwAF
+2019-08-16 23:26:01 BitBot [Title] The Beautiful Gate - https://ttm.sh/ph
+2019-08-16 23:26:31 TechEmporium_ amcclure: have you seen the first TempleOS web server?
+2019-08-16 23:26:38 amcclure no
+2019-08-16 23:27:17 TechEmporium_ https://ring0.checksum.fail/
+2019-08-16 23:27:18 BitBot [Title] Welcome - https://ttm.sh/pQ
+2019-08-16 23:27:47 TechEmporium_ A working TCP network stack & web server software... Davis is spinning in his grave now
+2019-08-16 23:29:09 patrick I'll be real Terry's piano app is probaby the most easiest music program I've seen for any computer
+2019-08-16 23:30:18 ~khuxkm amcclure: hence r/nottheonion
+2019-08-16 23:30:35 ~khuxkm the subreddit for when you fall for an onion article is r/atetheonion
+2019-08-16 23:30:43 amcclure why that sub though
+2019-08-16 23:31:08 ~khuxkm r/nottheonion is articles that feel like they should be on The Onion but are real, vs r/atetheonion which is when people fall for articles on The Onion
+2019-08-16 23:31:22 amcclure r/nottheonion is for "true stories that are so mind-blowingly ridiculous that you could have sworn they were from The Onion."
+2019-08-16 23:31:31 amcclure are you saying it's ridiculous?
+2019-08-16 23:31:39 ~khuxkm it sounds ridiculous
+2019-08-16 23:31:46 TechEmporium_ I'm honestly surprised at how far Terry got without reading any of the x86_64 instruction set documentation
+2019-08-16 23:31:48 ~khuxkm at least, at first glance
+2019-08-16 23:32:10 amcclure did you actually read it?
+2019-08-16 23:32:15 patrick bruh he never read it
+2019-08-16 23:32:37 patrick this guy is more of a legend than I thought
+2019-08-16 23:33:16 TechEmporium_ He refused to read it; it's not that he just hasn't read it
+2019-08-16 23:33:35 amcclure khuxkm: you should read it first :)
+2019-08-16 23:33:50 TechEmporium_ He refused to read the instruction set, he only implemented a fraction of it & somehow, it still works well on bare metal i5 PCs
+2019-08-16 23:34:05 TechEmporium_ Yet, it was only tested on bare metal Core2Duo & in VMs
+2019-08-16 23:34:05 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-16 23:34:07 TechEmporium_ ,bef
+2019-08-16 23:34:07 BitBot [Ducks] TechEmporium_ befriended a duck in 2.36 seconds! You've befriended 4 ducks in #meta!
+2019-08-16 23:34:12 amcclure nice
+2019-08-16 23:34:19 praetor yay!
+2019-08-16 23:34:25 TechEmporium_ :D
+2019-08-16 23:34:35 patrick oof i missed it
+2019-08-16 23:35:14 TechEmporium_ Scarier still, the entire OS is mostly HolyC source code files, with a few components written & compiled in ASM; the damn thing still boots in under 5 seconds from POST
+2019-08-16 23:35:15 ~khuxkm|lounge it's a good article
+2019-08-16 23:35:40 ~khuxkm|lounge I guess I kinda r/atetheonion with how TechEmporium described the article :P
+2019-08-16 23:35:42 TechEmporium_ The way he implemented JIT compilation is ridiculous
+2019-08-16 23:35:55 TechEmporium_ Yeah lol
+2019-08-16 23:36:00 TechEmporium_ I just joked about the title is all
+2019-08-16 23:38:37 praetor I'm on tilderadio right now if y'all wanna join in :3
+2019-08-16 23:39:39 ~tomasino woo
+2019-08-16 23:41:37 praetor :D
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+2019-08-16 23:49:23 ~khuxkm so I figured out why irssi keeps my screen session alive
+2019-08-16 23:49:41 ~khuxkm if the transport stays dead (i.e; nothing coming across) for too long, the connection breaks
+2019-08-16 23:50:00 ~khuxkm irssi has one feature that will always tick once every minute: the clock
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+2019-08-17 03:17:46 l4p1n Good morning
+2019-08-17 03:20:44 login good morning
+2019-08-17 03:23:34 l4p1n how's ya doin today login?
+2019-08-17 03:24:01 login doing alright, you?
+2019-08-17 03:26:12 ~khuxkm|lounge "I scream / You scream / We all scream / For life is pain"
+2019-08-17 03:27:21 login khuxkm|lounge++
+2019-08-17 03:27:21 BitBot [Karma] khuxkm|lounge now has 1 karma
+2019-08-17 03:27:39 ~khuxkm|lounge khuxkm++
+2019-08-17 03:27:39 BitBot [Karma] khuxkm now has 1 karma
+2019-08-17 03:27:44 ~khuxkm|lounge but whatever :P
+2019-08-17 03:28:49 login hey, you can't increase your own karma ;)
+2019-08-17 03:28:51 login login++
+2019-08-17 03:28:51 BitBot [Karma] You cannot change your own karma
+2019-08-17 03:29:03 login in real life, you can only change your own karma by doing good deeds
+2019-08-17 03:38:11 robdrake ,karma robdrake
+2019-08-17 03:38:11 BitBot [Karma] robdrake has 7 karma
+2019-08-17 03:38:15 robdrake Hello
+2019-08-17 03:41:50 den hi
+2019-08-17 03:41:52 den ,karma den
+2019-08-17 03:41:53 BitBot [Karma] den has 2 karma
+2019-08-17 03:42:02 den den--
+2019-08-17 03:42:02 BitBot [Karma] You cannot change your own karma
+2019-08-17 03:42:05 den :/
+2019-08-17 03:43:19 ~fosslinux den++
+2019-08-17 03:43:19 BitBot [Karma] den now has 3 karma
+2019-08-17 03:43:31 robdrake Hello
+2019-08-17 03:43:42 robdrake how are you doing fosslinux,, den
+2019-08-17 03:43:47 ~fosslinux good
+2019-08-17 03:43:49 ~fosslinux how are you
+2019-08-17 03:44:07 robdrake just waking up, it may be early, but I had 8 hours of sleep
+2019-08-17 03:44:21 robdrake nurses kept having to give me pills at odd times
+2019-08-17 03:44:37 robdrake fosslinux++
+2019-08-17 03:44:37 BitBot [Karma] fosslinux now has 4 karma
+2019-08-17 03:44:41 robdrake den++
+2019-08-17 03:44:41 BitBot [Karma] den now has 4 karma
+2019-08-17 03:44:52 ~fosslinux ,time robdrake
+2019-08-17 03:44:53 BitBot [Time] Time for robdrake: 2019/08/17 02:44:52
+2019-08-17 03:49:22 l4p1n login doin fine as usual ^^
+2019-08-17 03:55:03 login good
+2019-08-17 03:56:54 l4p1n graduating tonight
+2019-08-17 03:57:12 ~fosslinux yay!
+2019-08-17 03:58:35 robdrake grats l4p1n
+2019-08-17 03:58:40 l4p1n thy ^^
+2019-08-17 04:06:03 zeth thy?
+2019-08-17 04:07:34 zeth I'm not racist, I just hate the culture and it's "products"
+2019-08-17 04:07:58 l4p1n thy == thank you
+2019-08-17 04:08:29 l4p1n don't worry, I don't even understand half of abbreviations. I have a handy script for looking stuff up on urbandict :p
+2019-08-17 04:11:36 zeth I thought it's ty
+2019-08-17 04:13:41 ~fosslinux I've heard ty, thx, thy, tq
+2019-08-17 04:13:42 ~fosslinux lol
+2019-08-17 04:13:55 ~khuxkm ty and thx are the ones I'd be able to see
+2019-08-17 04:18:36 zeth "There's this chineese hacker that is somehow able to break into people's devices, and we've been unable to pin him down. He even mocks us by leaving signature in people's messages - signature being LMAO
+2019-08-17 04:20:16 zeth I think I remember seeing that in some shitpost on youtube can't remember the title
+2019-08-17 04:32:14 login wonderful, l4p1n
+2019-08-17 04:33:17 login hey zeth, do you have a tilde account?
+2019-08-17 04:33:33 zeth i think I do?
+2019-08-17 04:34:32 zeth all I know is that I've got account on #cosmic where I sometimes post things
+2019-08-17 04:35:32 robdrake anyone good at true top down 2d art?
+2019-08-17 04:35:55 ~khuxkm today's news: svg filters are confusing as fuck
+2019-08-17 04:36:01 login yes, cosmic is an rpg tilde
+2019-08-17 04:36:09 login robdrake, for a game?
+2019-08-17 04:36:15 robdrake yeah
+2019-08-17 04:36:43 robdrake microscopic chance the game becomes popular, could pay if I can find someone else to monetize it
+2019-08-17 04:37:01 login crypto would be one option
+2019-08-17 04:37:13 robdrake more like quantom size chance
+2019-08-17 04:37:17 robdrake crypto?
+2019-08-17 04:37:54 login but the taxes are a pain in cryptocurrency because many are treated as a "foreign currency" asset that appreciats
+2019-08-17 04:38:18 login so if you don't record its rise or fall in value, you won't get to offset it against your capital gains next year
+2019-08-17 04:38:26 login to pay less overall capital-gains tax
+2019-08-17 04:38:32 ~khuxkm i mean, i got this https://khuxkm.tilde.team/cooleffect.svg
+2019-08-17 04:38:35 login (and you won't get to claim it as long-term capital gains tax either)
+2019-08-17 04:39:01 login i thought that was a website, khuxkm, but it's just svg
+2019-08-17 04:39:10 login is there a way to get the underlined links to work?
+2019-08-17 04:39:27 ~khuxkm it's an SVG filter of a screenshot of my homepage
+2019-08-17 04:39:52 login how did it render so well as a screensho?
+2019-08-17 04:39:54 login *screenshot
+2019-08-17 04:40:00 ~khuxkm I'm sure there's some way to get the filter to apply to a page but for now I'm focusing in on stuff
+2019-08-17 04:40:14 ~khuxkm selenium webdriver + phantomjs = <3
+2019-08-17 04:40:37 ~khuxkm it's also a bare-bones page, being a header, horizonal rule thingamabob, and some text
+2019-08-17 04:40:49 trinary khuxkm: That does not seem to render on FF
+2019-08-17 04:41:14 login phantomjs has screenshotting ability
+2019-08-17 04:41:17 login but in svg?
+2019-08-17 04:41:21 login not pixels?
+2019-08-17 04:41:26 robdrake I'm not going with cryptocurrency, I get a basic game setup, I'll use Patreon
+2019-08-17 04:41:45 robdrake if I have to try and draw the player characters I need, so be it
+2019-08-17 04:43:39 ~khuxkm png screenshot, loaded in with
+2019-08-17 04:43:52 ~khuxkm trinary: does it give an error? or just not load
+2019-08-17 04:44:15 trinary khuxkm: White page with no indication anything should be there
+2019-08-17 04:44:27 ~khuxkm hmmst
+2019-08-17 04:45:08 trinary Don't have the context. Just mentioning in case you were thinking of using that somewhere
+2019-08-17 04:45:48 ~khuxkm well, it was more of a "look what I found fucking around with SVG filters while failing to get the effect I was looking for"
+2019-08-17 04:46:11 ~khuxkm basically, it went from black background and green text (https://khuxkm.tilde.team/scr.png
+2019-08-17 04:46:20 ~khuxkm to blue background and light-gray text
+2019-08-17 05:20:36 l4p1n Translated the blog post to English, if anyone is interested it's right there :p https://l4p1n.ch/2019/08/14/new-server-infrastructure.html
+2019-08-17 05:20:37 BitBot [Title] A new server infrastructure | l4p1n-blog - https://ttm.sh/p2
+2019-08-17 05:39:42 login khuxkm: it's loaded in with inside an svg?
+2019-08-17 05:39:46 southerntofu vantablack: nice bag :)
+2019-08-17 05:39:48 login what happens if i zoom into the svg?
+2019-08-17 05:40:30 login which blogpost did you translate, l4p1n?
+2019-08-17 05:40:51 l4p1n login this one: https://l4p1n.ch/2019/08/14/nouvelle-infrastructure-serveur.html
+2019-08-17 05:40:51 BitBot [Title] Une nouvelle infrastructure sur le serveur | l4p1n-blog - https://ttm.sh/T3
+2019-08-17 05:43:36 login ah, so you have a switzerland domain name?
+2019-08-17 05:43:38 login that's good
+2019-08-17 05:43:58 southerntofu hello fellow geeks
+2019-08-17 05:44:41 login when you write nouvelle infrastructure serveur, is "serveur" feminine
+2019-08-17 05:45:20 login or is it "infrastructure" that's feminine?
+2019-08-17 05:45:26 l4p1n login yes // "serveur" is a masculine name but I'm qualifying "infrastructure" which is feminine
+2019-08-17 05:45:26 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-17 05:45:32 l4p1n ,bef
+2019-08-17 05:45:32 BitBot [Ducks] l4p1n befriended a duck in 5.63 seconds! You've befriended 1 duck in #meta!
+2019-08-17 05:46:05 login in english, when one writes "new server infrastructure"
+2019-08-17 05:46:17 login it's like "new infrastructure for my server" right?
+2019-08-17 05:46:25 southerntofu yes
+2019-08-17 05:46:26 l4p1n yep
+2019-08-17 05:46:27 login so both 'new' and 'server' are adjectives
+2019-08-17 05:46:32 login even though server is a noun
+2019-08-17 05:46:38 southerntofu something like that :P
+2019-08-17 05:47:15 login so when one writes "nouvelle infrstructure serveur", is serveur a nom or an adjectif?
+2019-08-17 05:47:16 southerntofu wtf with oracle.com AI propaganda posted on tilde.news lol
+2019-08-17 05:47:27 southerntofu the latter, login
+2019-08-17 05:47:32 login well, one person's propaganda is another person's news
+2019-08-17 05:47:39 login and no news source is completely unbiased
+2019-08-17 05:47:41 southerntofu well it acts as such although it's not an adjective
+2019-08-17 05:47:48 npa amcclure loves oracle, lol
+2019-08-17 05:47:56 southerntofu login: have you read the article? :P
+2019-08-17 05:47:57 login just because they have limited resources and can't cover everything, bias manifests itself in what they choose to cover and not cover
+2019-08-17 05:48:06 login and to what extent they choose to cover what they cover
+2019-08-17 05:48:14 login and the varying amounts of effort they put into each of the things that they cover
+2019-08-17 05:48:16 southerntofu it's outright advertisement
+2019-08-17 05:48:36 login the oracle one? no
+2019-08-17 05:48:52 login oracle should get into database-as-a-service
+2019-08-17 05:49:18 login offer itself as an option on amazon-web-services, google-cloud-platform, and (the cheapest big cloud provider) microsoft-azure
+2019-08-17 05:49:24 southerntofu it's so disconnected from both how AI works and how it makes things so much harder for everyone (because it works fine until what you ask of it doesn't fit into its predefined model then it fails remarkably)
+2019-08-17 05:49:42 login yeah, AI safety isn't being thought about properly
+2019-08-17 05:49:53 southerntofu safety, privacy, and fallbacks :P
+2019-08-17 05:49:55 login there are no failsafes or a way to avoid catastrophic failure mores
+2019-08-17 05:49:57 login *modes
+2019-08-17 05:50:03 southerntofu making it THE WORST technological leap in the past 40 years
+2019-08-17 05:50:03 npa oracle does do that login
+2019-08-17 05:50:07 npa they have their own cloud thing
+2019-08-17 05:50:29 login in that case, they probably need to market it better
+2019-08-17 05:50:32 login i didn't know
+2019-08-17 05:50:48 login the only thing i heard about oracle is from someone who said the software is not well-architectured
+2019-08-17 05:51:03 login and relies on an gigantic number of tests
+2019-08-17 05:51:11 login that takes hours to run
+2019-08-17 05:51:15 login and multiple servers
+2019-08-17 05:51:20 npa did i link that in the chat lol
+2019-08-17 05:51:22 login (to run simultaneously)
+2019-08-17 05:51:28 npa i remember that, it was a comment in hackernews
+2019-08-17 05:51:32 login i don't know if you linked that, but that's the one i remember reading
+2019-08-17 05:52:30 southerntofu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajGX7odA87k <-- professor James Mickens proving AI is terrible for everyone
+2019-08-17 05:52:31 BitBot [Youtube] USENIX Security '18-Q: Why Do Keynote Speakers Keep Suggesting That Improving Security Is Possible? (51:22) uploaded by USENIX, 115,679 views (2741↑↓39) https://youtu.be/ajGX7odA87k
+2019-08-17 05:52:41 login but writing good software on the first try is near impossible
+2019-08-17 05:52:46 login because situations change
+2019-08-17 05:53:10 login oracle needs to know how to make their software grow without further growth becoming slower
+2019-08-17 05:53:26 login it needs constant mending, and an occasional paying down of debt
+2019-08-17 05:53:31 Fessus oracle is a legal firm disguised as a software company
+2019-08-17 05:53:34 login or the interest is paid in slower speed
+2019-08-17 05:53:40 southerntofu Fessus: +1
+2019-08-17 05:53:42 login why do you say that, Fessus?
+2019-08-17 05:54:06 Fessus check on the size of their legal department
+2019-08-17 05:54:10 southerntofu login: their whole business model is based on buying startups, starting litigations based on "intellectual property"
+2019-08-17 05:54:21 southerntofu and then selling contracts to huge firms
+2019-08-17 05:54:26 login facebook's business model also depends on buying the next big thing
+2019-08-17 05:54:35 login and google makes acquisitions too
+2019-08-17 05:55:00 southerntofu login: yes but facebook hasn't bought Java and OpenOffice in an attempt to appropriate their whole ecossytems with millions of dollars of legal fees to try their best to make it hapen :)
+2019-08-17 05:55:08 login i didn't know openoffice was bought!
+2019-08-17 05:55:14 login is that why there was a libreoffice?
+2019-08-17 05:55:18 southerntofu login: that's why it was forked
+2019-08-17 05:55:20 southerntofu yes
+2019-08-17 05:55:39 southerntofu then under the scandal open office was donated back to the apache foundation by oracle (because this story made them look almost as evil as they truly are)
+2019-08-17 05:56:15 login Java has been gutted
+2019-08-17 05:56:40 login security-wise, it gets updates not every 6 weeks, while it's as complicated as a web browser
+2019-08-17 05:57:30 * southerntofu knows from first-hand insiders account that Oracle/SAP software is completely broken and that the hierarchy in the companies doesn't care ecause they're got a huge PR and a huge legal department
+2019-08-17 06:00:00 BitBot [RSS] tilde news: Newest Stories: The Ghost of the Mechanical Turk by southerntofu@users.tilde.news (southerntofu) - https://jacobinmag.com/2017/12/middle-east-digital-labor-microwork-gaza-refugees-amazon/
+2019-08-17 06:00:06 --> lickthec1eese (LickTheCheese) (~licktheche@c-69-255-237-187.hsd1.md.comcast.net) has joined #meta
+2019-08-17 06:00:24 * southerntofu licks the cheese.
+2019-08-17 06:00:27 southerntofu hello
+2019-08-17 06:00:33 npa what did poor john cleese ever do to desere licking
+2019-08-17 06:00:50 lickthec1eese what?
+2019-08-17 06:01:10 npa your nick is lickthe(c1eese)
+2019-08-17 06:01:17 npa c1eese looks like cleese
+2019-08-17 06:01:24 npa john cleese is a member of monty python
+2019-08-17 06:01:39 npa and uh, desere is a typo of deserve
+2019-08-17 06:01:44 npa that's all the context i can give
+2019-08-17 06:01:53 * southerntofu licks the context.
+2019-08-17 06:02:04 lickthec1eese im actually LickTheCheese, im just logged in on tilde.team, so irssi changed the letter h to 1 for some reason
+2019-08-17 06:04:24 lickthec1eese hmm thats odd, i have some key combinations in i3gaps that overwrite irssi combinations, but when i enter gaps resizing mode, i can use them again...
+2019-08-17 06:05:06 southerntofu that's... weird :)
+2019-08-17 06:31:18 login what's gaps resizing mode?
+2019-08-17 06:31:31 login what's i3gaps?
+2019-08-17 06:33:06 southerntofu https://github.com/Airblader/i3
+2019-08-17 06:33:08 BitBot [Title] GitHub - Airblader/i3: i3-gaps – i3 with more features (forked from https://github.com/i3/i3) - https://ttm.sh/pu
+2019-08-17 06:49:55 login ,wiki i3
+2019-08-17 06:49:55 BitBot [Wikipedia] I3: I3, I-3 or i3 may refer to:...
+2019-08-17 06:49:59 login ,more
+2019-08-17 06:50:02 login well
+2019-08-17 06:50:10 login ,wiki i3_(software)
+2019-08-17 06:50:11 BitBot [Wikipedia] No results found
+2019-08-17 06:50:14 southerntofu it's a window manager
+2019-08-17 06:50:23 login ,wiki i3_(window_manager)
+2019-08-17 06:50:24 BitBot [Wikipedia] I3 (window manager): i3 is a tiling window manager designed for X11, inspired by wmii, and written in C. It supports tiling, stacking, and tabbing layouts, which it handles dynamically. Configuration is achieved via plain text file and extending i3 is possible using its Unix domain socket and JSON based IPC interface from many programming languages.Like wmii, i3 uses a control system very similar to (more...)
+2019-08-17 06:50:26 login there we go
+2019-08-17 06:50:30 southerntofu a tiling one, so you don't have to use a full desktop environment
+2019-08-17 06:50:44 login so no overlapping windows right? only panes and stuff i guess
+2019-08-17 06:50:49 ~fosslinux ye
+2019-08-17 06:50:53 southerntofu something like that
+2019-08-17 06:50:53 login is there an i3 for wayland?
+2019-08-17 06:50:58 trinary sway
+2019-08-17 06:51:04 southerntofu sway <3
+2019-08-17 06:51:07 login also, why did gnome move from x11 to wayland?
+2019-08-17 06:51:13 trinary https://swaywm.org/
+2019-08-17 06:51:13 login sway is a tiling one for wayland?
+2019-08-17 06:51:14 BitBot [Title] Sway - https://ttm.sh/pF
+2019-08-17 06:51:33 southerntofu login: because X11 is full of bugs and inconsistencies and so people want to kill it with fire lol
+2019-08-17 07:18:53 --> codingquark (Codingquark) (~codingquar@103.30.226.158) has joined #meta
+2019-08-17 07:20:02 --> kirk781 (realname) (~kirk781@203.110.242.23) has joined #meta
+2019-08-17 07:23:54 kirk781 Hello
+2019-08-17 07:26:15 southerntofu hi
+2019-08-17 07:33:05 zeth hOI
+2019-08-17 07:36:00 amcclure o/
+2019-08-17 07:39:25 * amcclure starts planning ai-powered irc bot
+2019-08-17 07:41:53 * southerntofu starts planning a GAN to defeat the AI :P
+2019-08-17 07:42:21 southerntofu amcclure: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tay_(bot)
+2019-08-17 07:42:22 BitBot [Title] Tay (bot) - Wikipedia - https://ttm.sh/pe
+2019-08-17 07:42:49 kirk781 Microsoft Tay?
+2019-08-17 07:42:58 lickthec1eese oh no microsoft
+2019-08-17 07:43:19 southerntofu kirk781: that one :P
+2019-08-17 07:43:42 southerntofu which precisely shows why internet-connected user-fed AI is the worst idea possible ^^
+2019-08-17 07:48:01 amcclure defeat the ai? :(
+2019-08-17 07:48:08 amcclure what's there to defeat
+2019-08-17 07:49:16 southerntofu amcclure: just kidding i don't want to harm you or your software :P
+2019-08-17 07:58:41 login hello kirk781
+2019-08-17 07:58:41 BitBot ・゜゜・。。・゜゜\_o< QUACK!
+2019-08-17 07:58:58 login let's just continue the conversation
+2019-08-17 07:59:21 kirk781 login, hello
+2019-08-17 07:59:23 kirk781 ,bang
+2019-08-17 07:59:23 BitBot [Echo] ,bang has been moved to ,trap
+2019-08-17 07:59:25 kirk781 ,trap
+2019-08-17 07:59:26 BitBot [Ducks] kirk781 trapped a duck in 44.75 seconds! You've trapped 2 ducks in #meta!
+2019-08-17 07:59:35 login well, it's just slightly more bad than internet-connected user-fed normal intelligence (i.e., me)
+2019-08-17 08:00:15 login how are you, kirk781?
+2019-08-17 08:03:12 login also, do you have any tilde accounts?
+2019-08-17 08:03:14 kirk781 login, Fine
+2019-08-17 08:03:26 kirk781 It rained all night here
+2019-08-17 08:03:36 kirk781 Tildes, yes. Tilde, no :p
+2019-08-17 08:04:59 login which one is tildes?
+2019-08-17 08:05:10 southerntofu login: we humans can recognize our failures, at least :P
+2019-08-17 08:05:15 login true
+2019-08-17 08:05:18 login most of the time
+2019-08-17 08:08:28 login also, /whois kirk781 says you're connected from thunix's tilde.chat node
+2019-08-17 08:08:33 login but https://www.thunix.net/~kirk781 doesn't work
+2019-08-17 08:08:34 BitBot [Title] 404 Not Found - https://ttm.sh/pi
+2019-08-17 08:08:52 southerntofu login: you may access IRC from a certain server without having an account there
+2019-08-17 08:09:21 southerntofu the info says which IRC node you're joining tildechat from, not which server you're connecting from
+2019-08-17 08:10:01 southerntofu (if that makes sense)
+2019-08-17 08:12:09 login are the nodes accessible publicly?
+2019-08-17 08:12:14 southerntofu yes
+2019-08-17 08:12:18 login for example, tilde.town's irc node (town.tilde.chat) isn't, right?
+2019-08-17 08:12:39 southerntofu anyone opening an IRC client from their machine will connect to either one of those servers
+2019-08-17 08:12:51 southerntofu are you sure?
+2019-08-17 08:17:55 southerntofu https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2813
+2019-08-17 08:17:57 BitBot [Title] RFC 2813 - Internet Relay Chat: Server Protocol - https://ttm.sh/pb
+2019-08-17 08:18:54 southerntofu https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2810#section-3
+2019-08-17 08:18:56 BitBot [Title] RFC 2810 - Internet Relay Chat: Architecture - https://ttm.sh/pP
+2019-08-17 08:21:37 ~tomasino the IRC network load balances connections, so you may connect through one you don't have an account on
+2019-08-17 08:21:48 ~tomasino with the exception of town, which has its own pathway in
+2019-08-17 08:23:10 --> jack3 [jack3] (jack) (the_kink@pool-71-255-184-186.slsbmd.east.verizon.net) has joined #meta
+2019-08-17 08:39:52 <-- trinary (~weechat@the.devils.avocado) has quit (quit: WeeChat 2.4)
+2019-08-17 08:40:57 login i understand now
+2019-08-17 08:41:39 login so tilde.town has a special pathway in, but the others don't
+2019-08-17 08:42:14 lickthec1eese others dont? why not?
+2019-08-17 08:42:36 login the others don't need it
+2019-08-17 08:42:54 login so ircing into tilde.chat gets you assigned to one of the nodes
+2019-08-17 08:43:03 login and the nodes connect to each other through hub.tilde.chat
+2019-08-17 08:43:10 login so it's a star topology
+2019-08-17 08:43:21 login and hub.tilde.chat has to handle the traffic of the whole network
+2019-08-17 08:43:39 login have i got it right?
+2019-08-17 08:43:51 southerntofu from tilde.chat homepage: « irc.tilde.chat is a round-robin host that will return any of the available servers »
+2019-08-17 08:44:03 login ah, i should have looked at the home page
+2019-08-17 08:44:14 southerntofu so there is no central host but users may conveniently connect to irc.tilde.chat which will relay the request to whichever node
+2019-08-17 08:44:24 login btw, anybody from town.tilde.chat and one not from town.tilde.chat. does connecting to #town on here work for both??
+2019-08-17 08:44:37 login how do the nodes connect to each other?
+2019-08-17 08:44:44 login i was aware of a hub.tilde.chat that connects to each node
+2019-08-17 08:44:45 ~tomasino you can only connect to #town from a connection on #town
+2019-08-17 08:44:55 login that's the intended behaviour
+2019-08-17 08:45:07 ~tomasino yes
+2019-08-17 08:45:09 login but the last time i checked, i couldn't connect even though i was from town.tilde.chat
+2019-08-17 08:45:13 southerntofu login: they connect through the IRC server ptocool
+2019-08-17 08:45:15 ~tomasino oh, not sure
+2019-08-17 08:45:27 login so i wanted to know if the restriction was carte-blanche lifted on #town, or whether it was fixed
+2019-08-17 08:45:43 southerntofu #town :Channel #town is forbidden, redirecting to #meta: ~town-only chan
+2019-08-17 08:45:49 login when i did /join #town on here, i saw (and still see, as i joined just a few moments ago) that i was the only one there
+2019-08-17 08:45:50 southerntofu so it should work if you connect from tilde.town
+2019-08-17 08:45:57 southerntofu oh?
+2019-08-17 08:46:02 login ah, if that's the message you got, then it must have been fixed
+2019-08-17 08:48:14 southerntofu hopefully :)
+2019-08-17 08:49:47 amcclure hello
+2019-08-17 08:51:10 amcclure my friend logged onto a minecraft server they're a mod on to find they were demoted for a fake "hacking" accusation
+2019-08-17 08:51:31 amcclure does anyone have suggestions for screen recording software they could use to prove they weren't hacking?
+2019-08-17 09:04:50 login what proof was furnished to convince the other mods that "hacking" took place
+2019-08-17 09:05:00 login and if it did, the "hacking" that took place was by this mod
+2019-08-17 09:05:36 login and if it was this mod, that the mod themself did it and not that the mod themselves was (still unknowingly) hacked
+2019-08-17 09:05:58 login quicktime is pretty basic screen-recording software
+2019-08-17 09:06:59 amcclure they didn't even know about it until they logged in this morning to see they were demoted
+2019-08-17 09:07:10 amcclure the server owner and admins didn't say anything
+2019-08-17 09:07:44 login i think it's best not to stick around
+2019-08-17 09:07:48 login this is a politics thing most likely
+2019-08-17 09:07:55 login and the real reason will be rarely revealed
+2019-08-17 09:08:04 login it could even be something like "this mod doesn't mesh well with the rest of the team"
+2019-08-17 09:08:56 login since the hacking has already taken place, and is not ongoing
+2019-08-17 09:09:01 login what proof did they collect?
+2019-08-17 09:09:03 --> trinary [trinary] (weechat) (~weechat@the.devils.avocado) has joined #meta
+2019-08-17 09:09:07 login welcome, trinary
+2019-08-17 09:09:10 login to #meta
+2019-08-17 09:09:24 login i like your vhost, the devil's avocado
+2019-08-17 09:09:24 trinary hi, the reboop was good
+2019-08-17 09:09:36 login modelled on 'the devil's advocate' i assume?
+2019-08-17 09:09:44 login what is the meaning of reboop?
+2019-08-17 09:09:57 trinary Yes, someone mis-spelled, and I liked that new spelling
+2019-08-17 09:10:11 amcclure login: we don't know
+2019-08-17 09:10:12 trinary Reboot, but with boops
+2019-08-17 09:10:19 amcclure all they said is there's evidence
+2019-08-17 09:11:00 amcclure and they always say proof is "confidential"
+2019-08-17 09:13:42 amcclure login: do you know of any good screen recording software?
+2019-08-17 09:15:09 login confidential proof may as well not exist
+2019-08-17 09:15:35 login if there's no chance to defend oneself, it's not a fair trial
+2019-08-17 09:15:47 login in any case, the only screen recording software i've heard of is bandicamp
+2019-08-17 09:16:16 login there's also camstudio, but it's just alright alright
+2019-08-17 09:16:51 login oh, a google search also shows Open Broadcaster Software
+2019-08-17 09:18:44 amcclure ty
+2019-08-17 09:25:17 amcclure the server itself already has a reputation of being toxic
+2019-08-17 09:26:12 amcclure and has a group of people that spend all their time trolling anyone and everyone
+2019-08-17 09:34:25 <-- kirk781 (~kirk781@203.110.242.23) has quit (quit: Leaving)
+2019-08-17 09:34:30 login if the server makes money, that would be antithetical
+2019-08-17 09:45:01 amcclure they banned the only real donator because he apparently "advertised" his own server without actually doing so
+2019-08-17 09:51:01 l4p1n a cake has never been so intense to make
+2019-08-17 09:58:13 zeth amcclure: you can record screen with ffmpeg
+2019-08-17 10:00:49 --> gareppa (gareppa) (~gareppa@151.27.10.177) has joined #meta
+2019-08-17 10:21:03 login welcome back to #meta, gareppa
+2019-08-17 10:28:38 <-- lickthec1eese (~licktheche@c-69-255-237-187.hsd1.md.comcast.net) has quit (quit: Lost terminal)
+2019-08-17 10:31:45 * zeth prods jesopo
+2019-08-17 10:31:53 jesopo hi
+2019-08-17 10:32:10 * zeth gets zapped by static discharge from her fuzz
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+2019-08-02 13:59:12 --> zack (zack) (zack@tilde.team) has joined #team
+2019-08-02 13:59:12 -- Topic for #team is "tilde.team stuff: https://tilde.team/wiki/ ~ https://tildegit.org/team"
+2019-08-02 13:59:12 -- Topic set by ben on Fri, 14 Jun 2019 13:58:22
+2019-08-02 13:59:12 -- Channel #team: 88 nicks (5 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 83 normals)
+2019-08-02 13:59:18 -- Channel created on Tue, 19 Jun 2018 14:12:30
+2019-08-02 14:05:24 --> level3 (level3) (level3@tilde.team) has joined #team
+2019-08-02 14:05:47 ~ben welcome to the ~team zack and level3 !!
+2019-08-02 14:07:27 level3 hi there
+2019-08-02 14:07:34 level3 thank you
+2019-08-02 14:07:39 ~ben :)
+2019-08-02 14:07:52 ~ben have a look around and feel free to ask if you have any questions!
+2019-08-02 14:07:52 level3 i am new to byobu
+2019-08-02 14:08:10 ~ben if you're familiar with tmux, you can just use it the same but with ctrl-a instead of ctrl-b
+2019-08-02 14:08:24 zack hi thanks
+2019-08-02 14:08:29 level3 this is pretty cool
+2019-08-02 14:08:34 ~ben https://superuser.com/a/423397/866501
+2019-08-02 14:08:35 BitBot [Title] shell - Byobu vs. GNU Screen vs. tmux — usefulness and transferability of skills - Super User - https://ttm.sh/iT
+2019-08-02 14:08:37 ~ben some background on byobu ^
+2019-08-02 14:08:48 ~ben there's also a bunch of info on our wiki: https://tilde.team/wiki/
+2019-08-02 14:08:49 BitBot [Title] tilde.team~wiki - https://ttm.sh/So
+2019-08-02 14:10:15 level3 maybe you can answer this off the top of your head: I went a little too happy with f2. how do I close the extra tabs?
+2019-08-02 14:10:45 ~ben you can kill the shell in them (ctrl-d or run exit) or you can press ctrl-f6
+2019-08-02 14:10:47 level3 there's 0, 2, 3, 4, 5 but I would like to get rid of 3, 4, 5 so I can f3 more easily
+2019-08-02 14:10:48 ~ben on each tab
+2019-08-02 14:11:03 level3 ah exit. I can remember that
+2019-08-02 14:11:25 ~ben ctrl-d is easier :)
+2019-08-02 14:11:49 level3 ok i will try again
+2019-08-02 14:11:55 level3 nice
+2019-08-02 14:12:05 ~ben it's a great way to close a shell
+2019-08-02 14:12:19 level3 I have already forgotten tmux :D
+2019-08-02 14:12:24 ~ben hehe
+2019-08-02 14:12:29 level3 I think I used to do tmux new -s irssi
+2019-08-02 14:12:33 ~ben shift-f1 if you ever forget the keybinds
+2019-08-02 14:12:37 level3 and then tmux a -t
+2019-08-02 14:12:41 ~ben byobu auto-reattaches for you!
+2019-08-02 14:12:59 level3 nice and thank you for having me here
+2019-08-02 14:13:07 ~ben of course :)
+2019-08-02 14:15:44 zack ~ben could you tell me how to change my password for imap/smtp auth
+2019-08-02 14:16:47 ~ben passwd
+2019-08-02 14:16:50 level3 that reminds me I should set this up on my k9mail :D
+2019-08-02 14:16:54 ~ben run that command ^
+2019-08-02 14:17:00 ~ben https://tilde.wiki/email
+2019-08-02 14:17:03 BitBot [Title] email | tilde.team~wiki - https://ttm.sh/Sr
+2019-08-02 14:17:04 ~ben for the connection infos ^
+2019-08-02 14:17:24 zack cool thanks
+2019-08-02 14:17:30 ~ben np :)
+2019-08-02 14:20:21 <-- webchatter (lounge-user@209.149.113.1) has left #team ("https://web.tilde.chat - thelounge")
+2019-08-02 14:20:59 --> zack2 (zack) (zack@209.149.113.1) has joined #team
+2019-08-02 14:20:59 level3 I have email :D
+2019-08-02 14:21:49 <-- zack2 (zack@209.149.113.1) has quit (quit: https://web.tilde.chat - thelounge)
+2019-08-02 14:22:17 ~ben wahoo!
+2019-08-02 14:22:32 @cmccabe email is the goodest
+2019-08-02 14:22:33 --> Alina25 (realname) (~Alina@205.red-88-24-170.staticip.rima-tde.net) has joined #team
+2019-08-02 14:22:41 ~ben so nice
+2019-08-02 14:23:02 ~ben i finally set up mailing list filtering in dovecot-sieve
+2019-08-02 14:23:14 ~ben one folder per list
+2019-08-02 14:25:55 @cmccabe ben, i can't remember if i asked you this before. have you ever figured out why tilde.team email still can't get past outlook's spam filter?
+2019-08-02 14:26:03 ~ben we can't?
+2019-08-02 14:26:28 ~ben i don't think i have an outlook address to test with
+2019-08-02 14:26:39 @cmccabe at least for me, it all goes to the spam folder
+2019-08-02 14:26:53 @cmccabe as far as i know, ~team email passes all the quality checks
+2019-08-02 14:27:01 @cmccabe but outlook still spam buckets it
+2019-08-02 14:27:05 ~ben ya we get 10/10 on mail-tester.com
+2019-08-02 14:27:39 --> zack6 (~teammate thelounge user) (thelounge@tilde.team) has joined #team
+2019-08-02 14:28:54 @cmccabe dmarcian has a couple suggestions: https://dmarcian.com/dmarc-inspector/ but i doubt those will help with outlook.
+2019-08-02 14:28:56 BitBot [Title] DMARC Inspector - dmarcian - https://ttm.sh/Ss
+2019-08-02 14:29:26 <-- zack6 (thelounge@tilde.team) has quit (quit: thelounge on https://tilde.team)
+2019-08-02 14:30:21 ~ben could probably set to quarantine?
+2019-08-02 14:30:56 @cmccabe or just reject, unless you expect email coming from other hosts
+2019-08-02 14:31:04 ~ben oh no i wouldn't
+2019-08-02 14:32:14 ~ben ok let's try it out
+2019-08-02 14:33:28 --> zack5 (~zack) (thelounge@tilde.team) has joined #team
+2019-08-02 14:34:04 --> robdrake [robdrake] (Rob Drake) (~robdrake@theayslum.team) has joined #team
+2019-08-02 14:35:49 level3 well I don't want to send email. I just want to be able to receive emails
+2019-08-02 14:36:45 ~ben why not both? :)
+2019-08-02 14:37:09 level3 yeah sending would be nice too (: but you mentioned spam which I assume is beyond our control
+2019-08-02 14:37:16 robdrake Hello #team
+2019-08-02 14:37:37 level3 by the way, how do you install things like angular cli?
+2019-08-02 14:37:55 level3 it needs a -g flag but that would affect everyone
+2019-08-02 14:37:57 @cmccabe level3: most big email providers don't classify ~team email as spam, but outlook/ms does. generally it's not a problem
+2019-08-02 14:38:39 level3 nice thanks @cmccabe
+2019-08-02 14:38:59 ~ben level3: try using yarn global add instead of npm i -g
+2019-08-02 14:39:10 ~ben it will install to ~/.yarn/bin which is per-user
+2019-08-02 14:39:24 robdrake level3, if you want angular cli, do npm i -g angular-cli w/o sudo
+2019-08-02 14:39:38 robdrake never install custom node packages with sudo
+2019-08-02 14:39:58 level3 It used to be that yarn global install @angular/cli was not recommended but maybe it has changed
+2019-08-02 14:39:59 ~ben where does npm i -g install to?
+2019-08-02 14:40:09 ~ben level3: s/install/add/
+2019-08-02 14:40:10 sedbot It used to be that yarn global add @angular/cli was not recommended but maybe it has changed
+2019-08-02 14:40:23 level3 hi sedbot :D
+2019-08-02 14:40:26 robdrake depends on user setup, I use nvm, so it's in .nvm/bin
+2019-08-02 14:41:15 ~ben ahh
+2019-08-02 14:41:18 ~ben i don't use nvm
+2019-08-02 14:41:22 ~ben i just use the system node
+2019-08-02 14:41:24 level3 yeah it is in the user folder with nvm but it is in global here
+2019-08-02 14:41:25 ~ben and npm
+2019-08-02 14:41:42 level3 wevhave yarn too
+2019-08-02 14:41:56 ~ben ya yarn should work
+2019-08-02 14:42:23 level3 I'll try yarn global install @angular/cli and report back
+2019-08-02 14:43:08 ~ben it's yarn global _add_ not install
+2019-08-02 14:44:00 level3 welp
+2019-08-02 14:44:22 ~ben afaik
+2019-08-02 14:44:25 ~ben install might work though
+2019-08-02 14:45:16 level3 i need to add it to path
+2019-08-02 14:46:06 ~ben it'll be in ~/.yarn/bin iirc
+2019-08-02 14:46:22 level3 yes it is
+2019-08-02 14:46:40 ~ben :)
+2019-08-02 14:50:13 level3 so like export PATH="~/.yarn/bin:$PATH in bashrc right?
+2019-08-02 14:50:38 level3 export PATH="~/.yarn/bin":$PATH
+2019-08-02 14:50:40 ~ben yup exactly
+2019-08-02 14:51:10 level3 alright lets do this :D
+2019-08-02 14:51:37 ~ben nice!
+2019-08-02 14:52:07 ~ben you can work in ~/public_html or symlink the built pages in there
+2019-08-02 14:52:09 ~ben for deploying
+2019-08-02 14:52:23 level3 oh wait I need to get bash to reevaluate the path
+2019-08-02 14:53:02 level3 source ~/.bashrc
+2019-08-02 14:53:23 ~ben yup that will do it
+2019-08-02 14:54:02 threv computers were a mistake
+2019-08-02 14:54:54 level3 Mr Conner?
+2019-08-02 14:55:01 ~ben lol
+2019-08-02 14:55:06 ~ben computers bad
+2019-08-02 14:55:39 threv hehe
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+2019-08-02 15:24:42 --> zack1 (zack) (zack@tilde.team) has joined #team
+2019-08-02 15:24:42 -- Topic for #team is "tilde.team stuff: https://tilde.team/wiki/ ~ https://tildegit.org/team"
+2019-08-02 15:24:42 -- Topic set by ben on Fri, 14 Jun 2019 13:58:22
+2019-08-02 15:24:42 -- Channel #team: 90 nicks (5 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 85 normals)
+2019-08-02 15:24:48 -- Channel created on Tue, 19 Jun 2018 14:12:30
+2019-08-02 15:27:56 --> webchatter [zack] (webchat user) (zack@12.207.168.4) has joined #team
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+2019-08-02 15:43:11 -- You are now known as zack_
+2019-08-02 16:05:45 Rusty computers bad? the greatest invention mankind has ever known, we use it for porn and selling each other crap? <--- did i defend?
+2019-08-02 16:07:13 @khuxkm wut?
+2019-08-02 16:08:47 level3 do our personal home pages use wildcard certs?
+2019-08-02 16:10:12 @khuxkm yeah, I think so
+2019-08-02 16:10:16 level3 nice
+2019-08-02 16:10:20 @khuxkm *.whateverthefuckbenboug.ht
+2019-08-02 16:10:32 threv ahaha
+2019-08-02 16:10:42 level3 so less likely to run into rate limits (:
+2019-08-02 16:10:59 @khuxkm what kind of rate limits? :)
+2019-08-02 16:11:08 level3 wait, is that a real domain? I remember there is a sr.ht :D
+2019-08-02 16:11:16 level3 lets encrypt rate limits
+2019-08-02 16:11:33 @khuxkm again, what kind of let's encrypt rate limits?
+2019-08-02 16:11:55 @khuxkm yeah, whateverthefuckbenboug.ht is a real domain, but it's not ours :(
+2019-08-02 16:11:59 level3 I thought there are limits like 200 requests a week or something
+2019-08-02 16:12:16 ~ben https://level3.fuckup.club
+2019-08-02 16:12:18 BitBot [Title] level3~tilde.team - https://ttm.sh/Sv
+2019-08-02 16:12:28 ~ben that's a really great domain lol
+2019-08-02 16:12:35 ~ben the level 3 fuckup club
+2019-08-02 16:12:45 ~ben https://tilde.wiki/tildepages
+2019-08-02 16:12:45 @khuxkm if I ever find a well paying job I'll buy endme.now
+2019-08-02 16:12:46 BitBot [Title] tildepages | tilde.team~wiki - https://ttm.sh/w7
+2019-08-02 16:12:50 level3 I advertise https://level3.tildeteam.org :D org sounds a little more ... professional
+2019-08-02 16:12:52 BitBot [Title] level3~tilde.team - https://ttm.sh/SN
+2019-08-02 16:13:02 @khuxkm my professional emails are khuxkm@tildeteam.org
+2019-08-02 16:13:04 ~ben lol yeah that works too
+2019-08-02 16:13:10 @khuxkm personal is khuxkm@tilde.team
+2019-08-02 16:13:21 @khuxkm haven't found a use for khuxkm@fuckup.club though
+2019-08-02 16:13:23 ~ben ben@ttm.sh or ben@tilde.team are the ones I use
+2019-08-02 16:13:29 ~ben for jokes I guess
+2019-08-02 16:13:44 ~ben I've sent mails to some friends from ben@fuckup.club
+2019-08-02 16:13:53 threv haha
+2019-08-02 16:13:59 threv i'm not only the president, i'm also a client
+2019-08-02 16:14:19 Rusty ben?!
+2019-08-02 16:14:28 Rusty you have that domain?
+2019-08-02 16:14:36 ~ben ya I have fuckup.club
+2019-08-02 16:14:40 Rusty with rdns?
+2019-08-02 16:14:55 ~ben no the rdns is tilde.team
+2019-08-02 16:15:05 Rusty :(
+2019-08-02 16:15:14 Rusty it was perfect for freenode
+2019-08-02 16:15:17 Rusty lol
+2019-08-02 16:15:31 Rusty thats a good domain tho.
+2019-08-02 16:15:32 @khuxkm but it means that even if the IRC has a requirement that you own the domain your vhost points at you can still use fuckup.club
+2019-08-02 16:15:51 ~ben it's a gr8 domain
+2019-08-02 16:16:02 Rusty fursure
+2019-08-02 16:16:03 threv p surprised it wasn't taken
+2019-08-02 16:16:05 ~ben I could allocate _another_ ip
+2019-08-02 16:16:09 ~ben but meh
+2019-08-02 16:16:23 @khuxkm Rusty: do you want a fuckup.club vhost here? :)
+2019-08-02 16:16:40 level3 did you get an email khuxkm?
+2019-08-02 16:16:43 Rusty yes please?
+2019-08-02 16:16:47 Rusty lol
+2019-08-02 16:17:04 @khuxkm ah, you need to register your domain
+2019-08-02 16:17:12 -- khuxkm (khuxkm@oper.tilde.chat) has changed host to khuxkm@fuckup.club
+2019-08-02 16:17:16 Rusty i'm not sure i have a .team shell either
+2019-08-02 16:17:24 Rusty i must, might?
+2019-08-02 16:17:32 @khuxkm you don't need to, we'll pretend :P
+2019-08-03 08:39:26 --> zack1 (zack) (zack@tilde.team) has joined #team
+2019-08-03 08:39:26 -- Topic for #team is "tilde.team stuff: https://tilde.team/wiki/ ~ https://tildegit.org/team"
+2019-08-03 08:39:26 -- Topic set by ben on Fri, 14 Jun 2019 13:58:22
+2019-08-03 08:39:26 -- Channel #team: 94 nicks (5 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 89 normals)
+2019-08-03 08:39:32 -- Channel created on Tue, 19 Jun 2018 14:12:30
+2019-08-03 08:46:28 --> zack-mobile [zack] (~zack zack ) (~zack@75-139-71-144.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com) has joined #team
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+2019-08-03 08:55:11 level3 aww postgres is pretty cool
+2019-08-03 08:55:38 snurryboy hey zack-mobile
+2019-08-03 08:55:43 level3 you can use elephantsql for testing btw
+2019-08-03 08:55:55 level3 20MB database size limit but works for testing I think
+2019-08-03 09:01:54 level3 how about dotnet?
+2019-08-03 09:02:17 level3 dotnet 3.0 will be released soon(TM) and would be nice to have
+2019-08-03 09:07:36 level3 also I have a new blog post that uses a fancy feature where I put some text between accent marks `like this`
+2019-08-03 09:08:00 level3 https://level3.tildeteam.org/blog/use-the-flag-friend.html it is pretty cool
+2019-08-03 09:08:01 BitBot [Title] Use the flag, friend - https://ttm.sh/Wb
+2019-08-03 09:17:55 robdrake level3, how much space are you needing for a postgresql database?
+2019-08-03 09:22:13 login why do databases have to be provided?
+2019-08-03 09:22:25 login can't each user just get the package, install it locally, and then use that
+2019-08-03 09:22:31 login s/$/?
+2019-08-03 09:22:32 sedbot can't each user just get the package, install it locally, and then use that?
+2019-08-03 09:22:52 login i thought dotnet framework 4 was already here?
+2019-08-03 09:23:01 login or is this different from dotnet?
+2019-08-03 09:23:44 robdrake level3, memoserv me when you get a chance with your answer, I need to get off my tailbone
+2019-08-03 09:23:54 robdrake bad pain morning
+2019-08-03 09:28:41 login i'm sorry rob
+2019-08-03 09:45:04 <-- kirk781 (~kirk781@203.110.242.5) has quit (quit: Leaving)
+2019-08-03 09:56:13 level3 login dotnet core is available on Linux and mac OS. Dot Net Core 3 is the latest version of that
+2019-08-03 09:57:23 level3 they basically rewrote dot net instead of making the old one available as free and open source. dot net core is not quite foss yet because it has some binaries. the folks at red hat are nudging Microsoft for a resolution.
+2019-08-03 10:08:18 login Oh, so dotNet and dotNet Core are different?
+2019-08-03 10:08:20 login ww
+2019-08-03 10:08:22 login *wow
+2019-08-03 10:23:48 level3 well, microsoft doesn't want you to think of them as different. they want you to think that dotnet core is the future of dotnet and if you don't have dotnet framework code, it pretty much is
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+2019-08-03 12:13:44 -- Topic for #team is "tilde.team stuff: https://tilde.team/wiki/ ~ https://tildegit.org/team"
+2019-08-03 12:13:44 -- Topic set by ben on Fri, 14 Jun 2019 13:58:22
+2019-08-03 12:13:44 -- Channel #team: 86 nicks (5 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 81 normals)
+2019-08-03 12:13:50 -- Channel created on Tue, 19 Jun 2018 14:12:30
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+2019-08-03 17:09:47 -- Topic for #team is "tilde.team stuff: https://tilde.team/wiki/ ~ https://tildegit.org/team"
+2019-08-03 17:09:47 -- Topic set by ben on Fri, 14 Jun 2019 13:58:22
+2019-08-03 17:09:47 -- Channel #team: 92 nicks (5 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 87 normals)
+2019-08-03 17:09:53 -- Channel created on Tue, 19 Jun 2018 14:12:30
+2019-08-03 18:24:49 nincollin younix: yeah, 2006 to be exact
+2019-08-03 19:20:57 fosslinux nincollin: why?!
+2019-08-03 19:21:06 fosslinux that's full of security holes
+2019-08-03 19:21:28 nincollin yeah, but most of the CVEs are remote ones
+2019-08-03 19:21:47 fosslinux there's a number of other tildes that'll happily provide you a MySQL database, if you need it
+2019-08-03 19:22:04 fosslinux why use such an old version anyway?
+2019-08-03 19:22:11 fosslinux don't newer ones work
+2019-08-03 19:22:45 nincollin the main reason is because of outdated web forum software I was using (circa 2003) and I kinda stared using it for other things
+2019-08-03 19:23:34 nincollin I just haven't got around to migrating/testing stuff in a newer version
+2019-08-03 19:27:57 nincollin what's more is that I only retired PHP 5.3 on my server about 8 months ago
+2019-08-03 19:28:08 nincollin (I had a 5.3 and 5.6 dual setup)
+2019-08-03 20:28:48 <-- siina (~siina@caprine.technology) has quit (quit: That's it, I quit!)
+2019-08-03 20:34:19 --> siina [siina] (Siina) (~siina@siina.wtf) has joined #team
+2019-08-03 20:39:24 robdrake I'll provide postgresql
+2019-08-03 20:41:24 truth hello team
+2019-08-04 13:02:41 --> zack1 (zack) (zack@tilde.team) has joined #team
+2019-08-04 13:02:41 -- Topic for #team is "tilde.team stuff: https://tilde.team/wiki/ ~ https://tildegit.org/team"
+2019-08-04 13:02:41 -- Topic set by ben on Fri, 14 Jun 2019 13:58:22
+2019-08-04 13:02:41 -- Channel #team: 92 nicks (5 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 87 normals)
+2019-08-04 13:02:47 -- Channel created on Tue, 19 Jun 2018 14:12:30
+2019-08-04 13:04:57 level3 are you guys connected to freenode on this weechat?
+2019-08-04 13:36:09 younix I want to win some bread!
+2019-08-04 13:36:10 Rusty is it I-lined on freenode or subject to connection _max_5_
+2019-08-04 13:36:36 younix Rusty what
+2019-08-04 13:36:56 Rusty he asked if we connected form tilde to freenode
+2019-08-04 13:37:01 Rusty from^
+2019-08-04 13:37:51 younix I think he assumes everybody is using weechat and wondered if they dual network it
+2019-08-04 13:38:57 younix Oh I see what you're saying -- freenode limits how many people connect from each IP
+2019-08-04 13:39:22 younix Can you not connect, level3?
+2019-08-04 13:40:36 level3 on irssi it is as simple as a command because irssi default config includes freenode.net
+2019-08-04 13:42:04 younix weechat's server config is overly complex
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+2019-08-05 10:33:49 -- Topic for #team is "tilde.team stuff: https://tilde.team/wiki/ ~ https://tildegit.org/team"
+2019-08-05 10:33:49 -- Topic set by ben on Fri, 14 Jun 2019 13:58:22
+2019-08-05 10:33:49 -- Channel #team: 91 nicks (5 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 86 normals)
+2019-08-05 10:33:55 -- Channel created on Tue, 19 Jun 2018 14:12:30
+2019-08-05 10:42:09 <-- BitBot (bitbot@bitbot.dev) has quit (quit: upgrades)
+2019-08-05 10:42:40 --> BitBot [BitBot] (BitBot) (bitbot@bitbot.dev) has joined #team
+2019-08-05 10:46:44 --> uberd (uberd) (uberd@tilde.team) has joined #team
+2019-08-05 10:47:59 ~ben welcome to the ~team uberd !
+2019-08-05 10:49:20 uberd hello
+2019-08-05 10:49:25 uberd ben
+2019-08-05 10:49:36 uberd is it possible to change username?
+2019-08-05 10:50:17 ~ben ya if you like
+2019-08-05 10:50:39 threv !team
+2019-08-05 10:50:43 uberd then please lets change it with den
+2019-08-05 10:50:44 threv err ~team <3
+2019-08-05 10:50:48 ~ben hey threv!
+2019-08-05 10:50:48 uberd !team
+2019-08-05 10:50:54 uberd lol
+2019-08-05 10:50:55 threv how's tricks?
+2019-08-05 10:50:57 ~ben ok will do
+2019-08-05 10:51:01 ~ben goin good
+2019-08-05 10:51:02 threv back in ATL
+2019-08-05 10:51:03 threv good good
+2019-08-05 10:51:03 uberd thx
+2019-08-05 10:51:15 ~ben I'll ping you when I've changed it uberd
+2019-08-05 10:51:25 uberd ok
+2019-08-05 10:51:29 <-- uberd (uberd@tilde.team) has quit (quit: WeeChat 2.5)
+2019-08-05 11:03:21 --> uberd (den) (den@tilde.team) has joined #team
+2019-08-05 11:04:03 uberd on irc it still seems like uberd
+2019-08-05 11:04:11 login gotta change the weechat settings
+2019-08-05 11:04:18 ~ben /nick den
+2019-08-05 11:04:18 login or maybe you registered the uberd nick?
+2019-08-05 11:04:28 ~ben /fset irc.server
+2019-08-05 11:04:56 login irc.server_default.username
+2019-08-05 11:05:01 login /set irc.server_default.username den
+2019-08-05 11:05:05 <-- uberd (den@tilde.team) has quit (quit: WeeChat 2.5)
+2019-08-05 11:05:07 login ^ that should fix it on your weechat client
+2019-08-05 11:05:29 --> uberd (den) (den@tilde.team) has joined #team
+2019-08-05 11:05:32 login ben, were you referring to the above? i didn't notice
+2019-08-05 11:05:38 ~ben ?
+2019-08-05 11:05:39 login /nick den will also work, uberd/den
+2019-08-05 11:05:46 login when you said /fset irc.server
+2019-08-05 11:05:52 login were you referring to irc.server_default.username?
+2019-08-05 11:06:06 ~ben i don't think that's set in the /etc/skel/.weechat
+2019-08-05 11:06:11 login (i.e., that /fset would autocomplete to irc.server_default.username)
+2019-08-05 11:06:13 ~ben it should default to $USER
+2019-08-05 11:06:22 ~ben so just change the nick
+2019-08-05 11:06:27 ~ben in the server settings
+2019-08-05 11:06:36 login in the mean time /nick den will work
+2019-08-05 11:06:42 login "/nick den", but without quotes
+2019-08-05 11:06:49 <-- uberd (den@tilde.team) has quit (quit: WeeChat 2.5)
+2019-08-05 11:06:49 ~ben well it won't cause den is already in use
+2019-08-05 11:06:56 ~ben /whois den
+2019-08-05 11:06:57 login Oh?
+2019-08-05 11:07:14 ~ben they're already connected from envs.net
+2019-08-05 11:07:29 login they being uberd?
+2019-08-05 11:07:32 login [den] bsd.tilde.chat (tildeverse irc on bsd.tilde.team)
+2019-08-05 11:07:33 --> uberd (den) (den@tilde.team) has joined #team
+2019-08-05 11:07:35 login that's what i got
+2019-08-05 11:07:39 login try /nick den1
+2019-08-05 11:07:41 uberd not sure if it works
+2019-08-05 11:07:45 -- uberd is now known as den1
+2019-08-05 11:07:48 den1 yes
+2019-08-05 11:07:50 den1 it works
+2019-08-05 11:07:54 ~ben den is already in use
+2019-08-05 11:07:57 ~ben by you
+2019-08-05 11:08:07 ~ben so just change the nick
+2019-08-05 11:08:10 ~ben in the server settings
+2019-08-05 11:08:17 ~ben or consolidate to one irc client :)
+2019-08-05 11:08:18 den1 did it
+2019-08-05 11:08:24 den1 but not worked
+2019-08-05 11:08:36 ~ben what didn't?
+2019-08-05 11:08:50 den1 ./set irc.server_default.username den
+2019-08-05 11:08:54 login *in the server settings of envs.net
+2019-08-05 11:09:04 login den1, you can print a literal / by typing //
+2019-08-05 11:09:11 login if the / appears in the beginning
+2019-08-05 11:09:25 den1 /set irc.server_default.username den
+2019-08-05 11:09:25 ~ben den1: don't set the server_default one
+2019-08-05 11:09:27 den1 thx
+2019-08-05 11:09:31 den1 which one
+2019-08-05 11:09:42 ~ben username is the wrong field anyways
+2019-08-05 11:09:56 ~ben /set irc.server.tilde.nicks "den,den1,den2"
+2019-08-05 11:09:59 ~ben ^^
+2019-08-05 11:10:11 den1 yes
+2019-08-05 11:10:14 den1 it worked
+2019-08-05 11:10:21 ~ben username is different
+2019-08-05 11:10:28 ~ben nick!username@host.tld
+2019-08-05 11:10:28 den1 but what about shown nick
+2019-08-05 11:10:29 login oh yeah, i realised just now
+2019-08-05 11:10:31 login ben is 100% right
+2019-08-05 11:10:35 login i was 101% wrong
+2019-08-05 11:10:37 login irc.server_default.nicks string "login,login1,login2,login3,login4"
+2019-08-05 11:10:39 ~ben /nick othernick
+2019-08-05 11:10:54 den1 den: Nickname is already in use.
+2019-08-05 11:10:54 login oh, ben already pasted, hope everything worked out!
+2019-08-05 11:11:01 ~ben yes you're already connected den1
+2019-08-05 11:11:08 ~ben /whois den
+2019-08-05 11:11:10 den1 what about shown one
+2019-08-05 11:11:16 ~ben /nick othernick
+2019-08-05 11:11:22 den1 yes thats what prompted
+2019-08-05 11:11:26 login There's a [den] (den@envs.net): den
+2019-08-05 11:11:29 login is that you?
+2019-08-05 11:11:31 den1 yes
+2019-08-05 11:11:32 login (also you)
+2019-08-05 11:11:35 den1 its also me
+2019-08-05 11:11:42 ~ben you can't use the same nick twice
+2019-08-05 11:11:43 login do you have access to that window?
+2019-08-05 11:11:46 den1 yes
+2019-08-05 11:11:58 login if you do /nick den2 on that one
+2019-08-05 11:12:01 login then /nick den on this one
+2019-08-05 11:12:08 login then /nick den1 on that one, it'll work out
+2019-08-05 11:12:26 ~ben i'd recommend just picking one place to run your client and connecting to both channels with that client
+2019-08-05 11:12:31 ~ben whichever has better ping for you
+2019-08-05 11:12:32 login i.e., den -> den2; den1 -> den; den2 -> den1;
+2019-08-05 11:12:43 -- den1 is now known as den
+2019-08-05 11:12:46 den ok
+2019-08-05 11:12:49 den exited from other one
+2019-08-05 11:12:53 ~ben you can /join #envs from here
+2019-08-05 11:12:55 login that would work too
+2019-08-05 11:12:58 ~ben and stay in both channels
+2019-08-05 11:13:06 login is envs.net also a tildeverse?
+2019-08-05 11:13:13 ~ben brand new tilde
+2019-08-05 11:13:14 den its not as i know
+2019-08-05 11:13:16 den yes
+2019-08-05 11:13:18 den for 2 weeks
+2019-08-05 11:13:19 ~ben https://envs.net
+2019-08-05 11:13:20 BitBot [Title] envs.net | environments - https://envs.net
+2019-08-05 11:13:26 ~ben creme has been doing a lot of work
+2019-08-05 11:13:33 ~ben lots of cool stuff!
+2019-08-05 11:13:38 den yes
+2019-08-05 11:13:41 den absolutely
+2019-08-05 11:13:50 ~ben hosting a lot of the same stuff that ~team does
+2019-08-05 11:14:31 login Who started envs.net?
+2019-08-05 11:14:38 login oh, it's creme?
+2019-08-05 11:14:38 den ~creme
+2019-08-05 11:14:44 ~ben ya
+2019-08-05 11:14:59 ~ben he's been asking me for help on some setup/config stuff
+2019-08-05 11:15:00 login disk space: used: 16G | free: 846G (wow!!)
+2019-08-05 11:15:16 ~ben /dev/sda2 984G 154G 781G 17% /
+2019-08-05 11:15:19 ~ben on ~team ^
+2019-08-05 11:16:15 login wow, 154 gigs out of 984 used?
+2019-08-05 11:16:24 ~ben correct
+2019-08-05 11:16:24 login if both are 1 tb, how come one has 846 and yours has 984?
+2019-08-05 11:16:32 ~ben they're not both 1tb
+2019-08-05 11:16:46 ~ben looks like it's 850gb
+2019-08-05 11:17:07 login 4 gb overhead is pretty good for 850 gb
+2019-08-05 11:17:11 login is it fat32?
+2019-08-05 11:18:48 --> den1 (den) (den@envs.net) has joined #team
+2019-08-05 11:18:52 den1 hey
+2019-08-05 11:19:27 <-- den1 (den@envs.net) has quit (quit: WeeChat 2.3)
+2019-08-05 11:20:27 ~ben o/
+2019-08-05 11:20:30 ~ben i have no idea login
+2019-08-05 11:21:57 login if it were ZFS, would that be cool?
+2019-08-05 11:22:02 login what about cockroachfs?
+2019-08-05 11:22:15 ~ben ~team is ext4 in zfs
+2019-08-05 11:22:27 login oh wait, it's cockroach db
+2019-08-05 11:22:30 ~ben each vm/container on my dedi gets a zfs disk
+2019-08-05 11:22:49 login ext4 => journaling?
+2019-08-05 11:23:06 ~ben i mean ya
+2019-08-05 11:33:31 login and zfs on top of ext4's journaling?
+2019-08-05 11:33:42 login what's the difference between what ext4 is and what a filesystem is?
+2019-08-05 11:36:03 ~ben ext4 is a filesystem
+2019-08-05 11:36:06 login alright, i've signed up for envs.net
+2019-08-05 11:36:08 login is it new?
+2019-08-05 11:36:11 ~ben yes
+2019-08-05 11:36:16 ~ben within the last two weeks
+2019-08-05 11:36:19 login how new is it?
+2019-08-05 11:36:27 login surprising how so many already joined it
+2019-08-05 11:36:44 login i know most of those who joined, except creme, jakew and ml
+2019-08-05 11:36:57 ~ben did you /join #envs
+2019-08-05 11:37:15 login no, i didn't
+2019-08-05 11:38:07 ~ben that's the irc channel
+2019-08-05 11:46:17 snurryboy nice it’s running buster
+2019-08-05 11:46:21 snurryboy good choice
+2019-08-05 11:46:29 threv what's envs
+2019-08-05 11:47:11 ~ben new tilde
+2019-08-05 11:47:19 ~ben https://envs.net
+2019-08-05 11:47:19 BitBot [Title] envs.net | environments - https://envs.net
+2019-08-05 11:48:08 threv cool
+2019-08-05 11:48:20 threv sweet, another place where people will grow to loath me
+2019-08-05 11:48:25 threv (☞゚ヮ゚)☞
+2019-08-05 11:49:50 den hey ben
+2019-08-05 11:49:57 ~ben hi
+2019-08-05 11:50:05 den is it a problem to install a software to home directory without permssion?
+2019-08-05 11:50:44 ~ben what are you installing
+2019-08-05 11:50:58 den i want to install tor
+2019-08-05 11:51:08 den hosting a entry node with bandwith limit
+2019-08-05 11:51:31 den not sure if it fits here but i dont have own vm so
+2019-08-05 11:51:56 ~ben i'd prefer to not host an entry node
+2019-08-05 11:52:03 den ok
+2019-08-05 11:52:36 den is this server colocated at ovh?
+2019-08-05 11:52:40 den or dedicated?
+2019-08-05 11:54:44 ~ben rented dedi from ovh
+2019-08-05 11:55:09 den cool
+2019-08-05 11:56:14 ~ben via soyoustart
+2019-08-05 11:56:19 ~ben i don't want to get on any blacklists
+2019-08-05 11:56:23 ~ben to keep sending mail etc
+2019-08-05 11:56:45 den no prob
+2019-08-05 11:59:51 den is ben.tild3.org
+2019-08-05 11:59:55 den open source?
+2019-08-05 12:00:13 ~ben den: https://tildegit.org/ben/tilde
+2019-08-05 12:00:15 BitBot [Title] ben/tilde: my tilde page ~ben - tilde - tildegit - https://ttm.sh/Wr
+2019-08-05 12:00:23 den can i use it?
+2019-08-05 12:00:26 ~ben go for it
+2019-08-05 12:00:37 den thx
+2019-08-05 12:33:09 den how can i use custom css for my tilde blog
+2019-08-05 12:33:13 den tildelog*
+2019-08-05 12:33:36 <-- naka (~nakahara@chomsky.torservers.net) has quit (The TLS connection was non-properly terminated.)
+2019-08-05 12:33:37 den is only way editing css at header or are there any other way
+2019-08-05 12:35:57 level3 den looks like you can edit bb.sh I haven't tried it but https://tildegit.org/team/bashblog/src/branch/master/bb.sh#L94
+2019-08-05 12:35:59 BitBot [Title] team/bashblog: tilde.team customized fork of bashblog - bb.sh at master - bashblog - tildegit - https://ttm.sh/Ws
+2019-08-05 12:38:07 den just readed wiki
+2019-08-05 12:38:13 den https://tilde.team/wiki/?page=tildeblogs
+2019-08-05 12:38:15 BitBot [Title] tildeblogs with bashblog | tilde.team~wiki - https://ttm.sh/W9
+2019-08-05 12:38:20 den we can do it via .config file
+2019-08-05 12:38:38 den and example: https://tildegit.org/ben/tilde/src/branch/master/blog/.config
+2019-08-05 12:38:39 BitBot [Title] ben/tilde: my tilde page ~ben - blog/.config at master - tilde - tildegit - https://ttm.sh/Wv
+2019-08-05 12:39:26 level3 ah so instead of editing the sh file, you'd edit your .config file. nice
+2019-08-05 12:40:28 --> Alina25 (realname) (~Alina@205.red-88-24-170.staticip.rima-tde.net) has joined #team
+2019-08-05 12:43:16 --> webchatter (webchat user) (lounge-user@ti0097q161-2053.bb.online.no) has joined #team
+2019-08-05 12:44:04 webchatter hi. im trying to register as a new user, but get erros about not including the public ssh-key, even tho it is pasted in the correct field. is there any errors with the form? :-)
+2019-08-05 12:45:05 biglysmalls greetings teamsters
+2019-08-05 12:45:40 den https://den.tilde.team/blog/
+2019-08-05 12:45:42 BitBot [Title] blog // ~den - https://ttm.sh/WN
+2019-08-05 12:45:42 den lol
+2019-08-05 12:45:57 den webchatter: i guess you can try to send a e-mail
+2019-08-05 12:46:10 den hey biglysmalls
+2019-08-05 12:46:48 level3 greetings (:
+2019-08-05 12:46:50 webchatter allright, i'll try. thanks :-)
+2019-08-05 12:47:44 level3 nice
+2019-08-05 12:48:57 den hey your homepage is still default why don't you change it :)
+2019-08-05 12:49:09 ~ben webchatter: make sure your pubkey is in openssh format
+2019-08-05 12:49:10 level3 mine?
+2019-08-05 12:49:44 den yes
+2019-08-05 12:50:32 den ben
+2019-08-05 12:50:39 ~ben hi
+2019-08-05 12:50:39 den is it possible to change directory of webserver
+2019-08-05 12:50:42 ~ben no
+2019-08-05 12:51:01 ~ben id have to change it for everyone and that's not a good idea
+2019-08-05 12:51:15 den yes
+2019-08-05 12:51:17 level3 but you said something about symlink no?
+2019-08-05 12:51:20 den yes
+2019-08-05 12:51:24 den that was what im going to say
+2019-08-05 12:51:26 den lol
+2019-08-05 12:51:29 level3 maybe they can do that
+2019-08-05 12:51:33 den ln -s
+2019-08-05 12:51:43 level3 i changed my page :D
+2019-08-05 12:52:04 den great blog
+2019-08-05 12:52:08 den it inspired me :d
+2019-08-05 12:52:44 level3 if you have gpg, try sending me an encrypted email (:
+2019-08-05 12:53:11 level3 it is not strong encryption but it works for test purposes
+2019-08-05 12:53:27 den ok, i will generate my own key at this server lol
+2019-08-05 12:53:33 den gpg --full-key-generate right?
+2019-08-05 12:53:37 den or quick
+2019-08-05 12:53:41 den i rather full one
+2019-08-05 12:53:51 level3 I use openkeychain and k9mail on android
+2019-08-05 12:53:59 webchatter ben, it worked when using git bash, tried puttygen at first :-) thanks!
+2019-08-05 12:54:12 level3 I am also using git bash on windows (:
+2019-08-05 12:54:20 level3 alright later guys xx
+2019-08-05 12:54:44 den just made 301 redirect on my homepage
+2019-08-05 12:54:55 den to my blog
+2019-08-05 12:57:28 <-- webchatter (lounge-user@ti0097q161-2053.bb.online.no) has quit (quit: https://web.tilde.chat - thelounge)
+2019-08-05 12:59:00 ~ben 301 bad
+2019-08-05 12:59:05 --> naka (nakahara) (~nakahara@166.emeraldonion.org) has joined #team
+2019-08-05 12:59:28 ~ben I use git bash when I have to use Windows
+2019-08-05 13:00:29 threv i can't live w/out WSL
+2019-08-05 13:05:47 den ben, are there minecraft server of tilde.team?
+2019-08-05 13:06:33 <-- den (den@tilde.team) has quit (quit: WeeChat 2.5)
+2019-08-05 13:07:06 --> den (den) (den@tilde.team) has joined #team
+2019-08-05 13:09:50 ~ben /j #minecraft
+2019-08-05 13:10:05 ~ben wsl is so damn slow
+2019-08-05 13:10:18 threv i dont mind it so far
+2019-08-05 13:10:24 threv soon that'll be remedied
+2019-08-05 13:14:05 ~ben hopefully
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+2019-08-05 13:56:51 ~ben welcome to the ~team myrkul !
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+2019-08-05 14:24:07 den hey
+2019-08-05 14:24:11 den hi guys
+2019-08-05 14:25:09 ~ben o/
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+2019-08-05 15:06:29 robdrake hello again #team
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+2019-08-05 15:29:22 level3 \o
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+2019-08-05 16:27:45 quantumm hi
+2019-08-05 16:28:17 ~ben hello!
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+2019-08-05 17:43:25 tiwesdaeg my internet is dead :(
+2019-08-05 17:44:03 tiwesdaeg luckily, I've got my amazing hspa+ connection!
+2019-08-05 17:44:21 tiwesdaeg LTE almost never works at my house
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+2019-08-05 18:01:13 tomasino boooo
+2019-08-05 18:01:25 tomasino i'm tethered to my phone in my new apartment and the signal here is amazeballs
+2019-08-05 18:01:31 tomasino i've not even noticed i'm not on real wifi
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+2019-08-05 20:50:02 ~ben tomasino: are you on an icelandic carrier now?
+2019-08-05 20:50:16 ~ben rip tiwesdaeg's internet
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+2019-08-06 02:37:48 tomasino Vodafone Iceland for mobile
+2019-08-06 03:23:19 quantumm hey tomasino
+2019-08-06 03:23:37 tomasino hiya quantumm
+2019-08-06 03:23:44 quantumm can you provide me a invite
+2019-08-06 03:24:02 tomasino an invite to what?
+2019-08-06 03:24:06 tomasino to team?
+2019-08-06 03:24:13 quantumm no
+2019-08-06 03:24:18 quantumm tilde.black
+2019-08-06 03:24:32 tomasino ooooh...
+2019-08-06 03:24:43 tomasino https://tilde.black/docs/sign-up/
+2019-08-06 03:24:44 BitBot [Title] Sign Up - Tilde Black Documentation - https://ttm.sh/br
+2019-08-06 03:24:55 quantumm yes read that but there is no contact resource
+2019-08-06 03:25:01 quantumm that i find
+2019-08-06 03:25:50 tomasino it's written sneakily "Send an email to this system's admin user" aka admin@tilde.black
+2019-08-06 03:26:09 quantumm i guessed like is it sudoers@tilde.black
+2019-08-06 03:26:17 quantumm but its ok.
+2019-08-06 03:26:19 tomasino ahh, i should add that alias
+2019-08-06 03:26:21 quantumm will send a e-mail
+2019-08-06 03:26:31 tomasino most of them go to the same account: fox@tilde.black is the superuser
+2019-08-06 03:28:11 tomasino sudoers added to my alias list. :) just in cose
+2019-08-06 03:28:14 tomasino case&
+2019-08-06 03:28:25 quantumm thx
+2019-08-06 03:28:34 tomasino i'm going to bold "admin" in the instructions too to make it more obvious
+2019-08-06 03:28:43 quantumm i can contribute
+2019-08-06 03:28:57 quantumm also sent a request
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+2019-08-06 03:33:07 quantumm tomasino
+2019-08-06 03:33:28 quantumm i just logged in! that was the fastest registration that i have ever experienced on tildeverse
+2019-08-06 03:33:47 Kneazle lol
+2019-08-06 03:33:49 Kneazle nice
+2019-08-06 03:34:02 tomasino hah
+2019-08-06 03:34:14 tomasino glad to hear it
+2019-08-06 03:34:26 tomasino i hope you enjoyed the random distribution of usernames you got
+2019-08-06 03:35:01 fosslinux ,w quantumm
+2019-08-06 03:35:01 BitBot [Weather] quantumm doesn't have a location set
+2019-08-06 03:35:22 tomasino i'm glad! that might dox them
+2019-08-06 03:35:24 tomasino ;)
+2019-08-06 03:35:31 quantumm lol
+2019-08-06 03:35:33 quantumm use tor
+2019-08-06 03:35:57 tomasino feel free to join us in #black quantumm
+2019-08-06 03:36:10 quantumm will do
+2019-08-06 03:36:31 quantumm what was the irc server details
+2019-08-06 03:36:36 quantumm is it on tilde.chat?
+2019-08-06 03:37:51 fosslinux yeah the same server you're on now
+2019-08-06 03:37:59 tomasino yep
+2019-08-06 03:38:05 fosslinux also #meta is where everyone from all the tildes hangs
+2019-08-06 03:39:35 Kneazle we hang all over
+2019-08-06 03:39:47 Kneazle but we are a lot in meta, yes
+2019-08-06 03:39:57 Kneazle i hear #cosmic is fun
+2019-08-06 03:40:45 quantumm not sure if i can connect
+2019-08-06 03:40:53 fosslinux quantumm: /join #black
+2019-08-06 03:41:05 quantumm no to the server from tilde.black
+2019-08-06 03:41:06 fosslinux just type that in
+2019-08-06 03:41:10 quantumm i tried localhost one
+2019-08-06 03:41:11 fosslinux ssh
+2019-08-06 03:41:14 fosslinux or IRC?
+2019-08-06 03:41:23 quantumm IRC
+2019-08-06 03:41:33 fosslinux Oo
+2019-08-06 03:41:37 quantumm i was added both non localhost version
+2019-08-06 03:41:40 quantumm both didnt worked
+2019-08-06 03:41:45 fosslinux you can join all of the channels from tilde.team
+2019-08-06 03:41:51 fosslinux The IRC client you're currently on
+2019-08-06 03:42:00 quantumm yes i know but just was trying to connect from tilde.black
+2019-08-06 03:42:03 fosslinux ooo
+2019-08-06 03:42:07 quantumm but no prob
+2019-08-06 03:42:16 quantumm i will try to solve that later
+2019-08-06 03:42:22 fosslinux tilde.black dosent have a local irc node
+2019-08-06 03:42:27 quantumm lets go #black ! :)
+2019-08-06 03:42:42 fosslinux you need to connect to irc.tilde.chat port 6697 with ssl
+2019-08-06 03:42:53 fosslinux from ~black
+2019-08-06 03:43:00 quantumm yes what i did
+2019-08-06 03:43:13 fosslinux sorry
+2019-08-06 03:43:15 fosslinux my bad
+2019-08-06 03:43:27 quantumm no, actually thats the true way to this
+2019-08-06 03:43:36 fosslinux just realised that's what you meant i was added both non localhost version <-- here
+2019-08-06 03:43:41 quantumm but i can do ssh tunneling to tilde.team
+2019-08-06 03:44:12 quantumm but it seems unnessecary because i have direct access to ssh on this server
+2019-08-06 03:44:44 quantumm !afk
+2019-08-06 04:01:53 quantumm hello again
+2019-08-06 04:05:21 Kneazle hihi
+2019-08-06 04:08:38 tomasino hiya again
+2019-08-06 04:19:30 Kneazle hi again 2
+2019-08-06 04:31:12 quantumm lol
+2019-08-06 04:31:24 quantumm actually not lol but lol k
+2019-08-06 04:31:53 quantumm why dont we collabrate and write software
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+2019-08-06 08:18:57 Rusty ben, my host changed on FN. COOL, thanks
+2019-08-06 08:19:31 Rusty it's just magically changed without me doing anything, as you said.
+2019-08-06 08:24:30 ~ben np!
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+2019-08-06 08:43:03 login FN = ?
+2019-08-06 08:57:23 ~ben freenode
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+2019-08-06 09:05:42 Rusty holy goodness gracious, hell client might be in final approval in the next half hour....
+2019-08-06 09:06:02 Rusty or they are just messing with me.
+2019-08-06 09:20:46 ~ben hell client--
+2019-08-06 09:20:46 BitBot [Karma] hell client now has -1 karma
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+2019-08-06 09:21:45 kirk781 ,np
+2019-08-06 09:21:47 BitBot [last.fm] kirk781 is listening to: Pink Floyd - Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun (Progressive rock, Psychedelic Rock, psychedelic, rock, classic rock) - https://youtu.be/8RbXIMZmVv8
+2019-08-06 09:22:06 ~ben nice
+2019-08-06 09:24:14 Rusty ^ agreed
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+2019-08-06 10:43:31 ~ben https://bhh.sh/pub/wiki/
+2019-08-06 10:43:33 BitBot [Title] tilde wiki - https://ttm.sh/Wx
+2019-08-06 10:43:46 ~ben draft version of mkdocs wiki
+2019-08-06 10:43:51 ~ben thoughts?
+2019-08-06 10:47:44 tomasino php env?
+2019-08-06 10:47:56 tomasino not running mkdocs serve ?
+2019-08-06 10:48:05 ~ben oh no
+2019-08-06 10:48:11 ~ben i just symlinked into my ~/pub
+2019-08-06 10:48:30 ~ben easiest way to test sites
+2019-08-06 10:48:35 ~ben static sties that is
+2019-08-06 10:48:47 ~ben where are you seeing the php env'
+2019-08-06 10:49:03 tomasino composer install
+2019-08-06 10:49:05 tomasino php -S localhost:9000
+2019-08-06 10:49:07 ~ben oh
+2019-08-06 10:49:09 ~ben right
+2019-08-06 10:49:10 tomasino that speaks of php dependencies
+2019-08-06 10:49:14 ~ben i didn't change README.md from the old one
+2019-08-06 10:49:29 ~ben i just dropped *.md in there and sorted stuff into folders
+2019-08-06 10:49:53 tomasino https://bhh.sh/pub/wiki/ it's on your wiki page
+2019-08-06 10:49:55 BitBot [Title] tilde wiki - https://ttm.sh/Wx
+2019-08-06 10:49:57 ~ben yes i know
+2019-08-06 10:50:00 tomasino ahh
+2019-08-06 10:50:10 tomasino so... do you have the running of mkdocs automated somewhere?
+2019-08-06 10:50:15 tomasino how do people actually see their changes
+2019-08-06 10:50:27 ~ben > i just dropped *.md in there and sorted stuff into folders
+2019-08-06 10:50:33 ~ben tryin it out
+2019-08-06 10:50:51 ~ben it's on my vps so i'm running it manually rn
+2019-08-06 10:51:03 tomasino ahh
+2019-08-06 10:51:05 tomasino okay
+2019-08-06 10:51:08 ~ben lol
+2019-08-06 10:51:14 ~ben just a test
+2019-08-06 10:51:20 tomasino gotcha gotcha
+2019-08-06 10:51:27 tomasino i'm prying cause i'm still looking to improve black
+2019-08-06 10:51:39 tomasino my cron isn't working right cause it's missing env vars
+2019-08-06 10:51:40 ~ben would probably just set up a githook to run mkdocs build on push
+2019-08-06 10:51:48 ~ben if i were to do something like that
+2019-08-06 10:52:00 ~ben idk i still like the current wiki
+2019-08-06 10:52:07 ~ben https://tilde.team/wiki/
+2019-08-06 10:52:08 BitBot [Title] tilde.team~wiki - https://ttm.sh/So
+2019-08-06 10:52:13 tomasino https://tildegit.org/tilde.black/ops/src/branch/master/docsgen.sh
+2019-08-06 10:52:14 BitBot [Title] tilde.black/ops: Operation scripts for managing tilde.black - docsgen.sh at master - ops - tildegit - https://ttm.sh/W-
+2019-08-06 10:52:23 tomasino this works when i run it, but not via cron
+2019-08-06 10:52:43 tomasino i suppose a githook could do it since it would run the script
+2019-08-06 10:52:53 ~ben post-receive probably
+2019-08-06 10:54:30 tomasino i'm gonna fix this damn thing. it's annoying me now
+2019-08-06 10:54:32 tomasino :)
+2019-08-06 10:57:13 tomasino i should make a service user to manage this instead of having it as root, then install docsgen to a usr/local/bin/ place like on cosmic. Ugh, i need to play more cleanup on this tilde
+2019-08-06 10:57:24 tomasino "doing it quick" always ends up costing me more time in the end
+2019-08-06 10:57:55 tomasino lets see if the cron works in 10 min
+2019-08-06 11:01:38 ~ben sounds about right
+2019-08-06 11:01:49 ~ben are you running the cron even if there aren't changes?
+2019-08-06 11:02:01 login the script must be idempotent in that case, right?
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+2019-08-06 11:04:59 ~ben i'd have to look at it again
+2019-08-06 11:05:57 tomasino cron runs the script. script does stuff only if the git sha changed
+2019-08-06 11:06:18 tomasino it's the same general principal as how i mirror my phlog
+2019-08-06 11:06:35 tomasino cron a git fetch, compare the shas of the newest master to see if it changed, if so, process
+2019-08-06 11:06:54 BitBot [Gitea] (team/site) ben pushed 4bb42405 to master: add note about zola - https://tildegit.org/team/site/commit/4bb4240537a36aedc32cac553487f9d2284a8363
+2019-08-06 11:08:19 tomasino damn, still no good
+2019-08-06 11:08:35 --> amcclure (amcclure) (~amcclure@142.44.189.32) has joined #team
+2019-08-06 11:08:38 ~ben :s
+2019-08-06 11:08:58 tomasino i'll have to strip out my error suppression and see what's up
+2019-08-06 11:11:00 ~ben is $GIT_DIR set
+2019-08-06 11:13:13 tomasino no...
+2019-08-06 11:13:15 tomasino should it be?
+2019-08-06 11:14:47 ~ben ya it needs to be in order to do git operations
+2019-08-06 11:15:38 tomasino it does?
+2019-08-06 11:15:47 ~ben `git` usually sets it for you
+2019-08-06 11:18:10 tomasino i think the git part is working and mkdocs is failing
+2019-08-06 11:18:13 tomasino but we shall see
+2019-08-06 11:18:17 tomasino in 12 min
+2019-08-06 11:18:27 ~ben ahh
+2019-08-06 11:20:07 biglysmalls ben: wiki mkdocs lookin gooood
+2019-08-06 11:20:31 ~ben not sure if i'd switch it over but it's a decent option
+2019-08-06 11:21:17 biglysmalls seems worth playing with and deciding how maintenance fits into the workflow maybe?
+2019-08-06 11:21:53 ~ben i rly should just automate deployments for the current setup
+2019-08-06 11:30:37 tomasino /root/ops/docsgen.sh[8]: cd: /var/log/docs
+2019-08-06 11:30:51 tomasino - No such file or directory
+2019-08-06 11:30:55 tomasino was not expecting THAT
+2019-08-06 11:31:42 tomasino no "$HOME" as root cron?
+2019-08-06 11:32:27 tomasino On OpenBSD, the root crontab file actually sets things to
+2019-08-06 11:32:29 tomasino HOME=/var/log
+2019-08-06 11:32:31 tomasino by default.
+2019-08-06 11:32:34 tomasino wow...
+2019-08-06 11:32:38 tomasino learn something new every day!
+2019-08-06 11:33:17 ~ben weird
+2019-08-06 11:33:50 tomasino i'm sure they have "reasons"
+2019-08-06 11:33:54 tomasino no matter. easy solve
+2019-08-06 11:34:09 ~ben heh
+2019-08-06 11:42:17 login source root's .bashrc ;)
+2019-08-06 11:45:38 --> younix (me) (~younix@CPE8416f99f55bc-CMa84e3f86c520.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined #team
+2019-08-06 11:48:36 tomasino i think i've got it all nailed down
+2019-08-06 11:49:08 ~ben nice
+2019-08-06 11:49:46 younix that's good because THERE'S A TWISTER A-COMIN'!
+2019-08-06 11:49:56 ~ben henlo younix
+2019-08-06 11:50:00 younix hide kids/wife/etc
+2019-08-06 11:50:03 younix hi ben
+2019-08-06 11:50:13 younix pleasant to talk you
+2019-08-06 11:50:24 ~ben (´・ω・`)
+2019-08-06 11:50:34 younix daww
+2019-08-06 11:50:42 * younix pats ascii conflagration
+2019-08-06 11:51:00 ~ben how goes
+2019-08-06 11:51:27 younix comme ci, comme ça
+2019-08-06 11:51:37 younix i bricked a router \o/
+2019-08-06 11:52:09 tomasino oh noes
+2019-08-06 11:52:12 ~ben :s
+2019-08-06 11:52:14 ~ben that's no fun
+2019-08-06 11:52:27 tomasino https://tilde.black/docs/privacy/
+2019-08-06 11:52:29 BitBot [Title] Coming soon - Tilde Black Documentation - https://ttm.sh/BE
+2019-08-06 11:52:33 tomasino see those 3 dots...
+2019-08-06 11:52:40 tomasino auto-gen!
+2019-08-06 11:52:44 younix openwrt's flash ui should really do some super basic checks, like whether the image you're about to flash is for router-model or identical-router-model-with slightly more flash storage
+2019-08-06 11:52:45 tomasino the cron works
+2019-08-06 11:52:47 tomasino woo
+2019-08-06 11:53:25 tomasino https://tildegit.org/tilde.black/ops/src/branch/master/docsgen.sh
+2019-08-06 11:53:26 BitBot [Title] tilde.black/ops: Operation scripts for managing tilde.black - docsgen.sh at master - ops - tildegit - https://ttm.sh/W-
+2019-08-06 11:53:44 younix .black/ops
+2019-08-06 11:54:09 tomasino :D
+2019-08-06 11:54:14 tomasino so cool, isn't it?
+2019-08-06 11:54:56 ~ben ~black/ops
+2019-08-06 11:54:58 ~ben nice
+2019-08-06 11:55:18 younix https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hjs1t47M4r0
+2019-08-06 11:55:19 BitBot [Title] They Might Be Giants - Black Ops Alt. (official video) - YouTube - https://ttm.sh/BQ
+2019-08-06 11:57:10 ~ben nice
+2019-08-06 11:57:48 younix o/~ droppin' presents from the helicopter o/~
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+2019-08-06 13:24:18 Rusty younix i bricked a router too, it turns out even the cheapie are tftp capable when bricked, usually if the lights come on, it's seeking a rom/firmware/bin
+2019-08-06 13:26:05 younix mine does do that, but it doesn't tftp or dhcp when i hit the reset (as it did originally)
+2019-08-06 13:26:18 Rusty i thought i was headed to bestbuy with a AMZ two day backing it up... but a direct connection and a tftp server and presto it was back, which of course i immediately tried flashing DD-wrt on it and bricked it again.
+2019-08-06 13:26:42 younix it is in some kind of ~15 second infinite loop, part of which involves some blinking
+2019-08-06 13:26:56 Rusty what brand?
+2019-08-06 13:27:00 younix mikrotik
+2019-08-06 13:27:07 Rusty lets fix the damn thing
+2019-08-06 13:27:15 younix i like your attitude! :)
+2019-08-06 13:27:46 Rusty i find alot of good debricking info on the dd-wrt forums
+2019-08-06 13:28:01 Rusty usually explains how to bring it back to stock
+2019-08-06 13:28:14 Rusty and/or flash some varation....
+2019-08-06 13:28:33 younix i did the generic debricking steps on the openwrt wiki... i had it plugged into my laptop via ethernet (on 3 different router ports), had tcpdump and dhcp+tftp running, power cycled it many times, pressed the reset button in as many ways as i could think of
+2019-08-06 13:28:43 younix it emitted 0 packets the whole time
+2019-08-06 13:29:05 younix which is strange, since the lights did blink!
+2019-08-06 13:29:46 Rusty there was a magic combo, in my case.... that i had to start the tftp and plug the router in at the near exact moment or the router missed the tftp server announce.
+2019-08-06 13:30:03 younix oh! i thought tftp was part of the dhcp protocol
+2019-08-06 13:30:05 Rusty or it just flashed and rebooted
+2019-08-06 13:30:32 Rusty by flash i mean the lights not the firmware
+2019-08-06 13:30:42 younix does that mean the router was the tftp server?
+2019-08-06 13:31:08 younix (one of the things they mentioned in the debricking guide was that some routers are tftp clients, and others are servers)
+2019-08-06 13:31:36 Rusty no it was a tftp client.. but it rebooted to fast to catch the announce from the server
+2019-08-06 13:31:54 Rusty and rebooted before the next announce
+2019-08-06 13:32:01 Rusty too^
+2019-08-06 13:32:43 Rusty but if the server and the router went hot at the same time it flashed the firmware back on it.
+2019-08-06 13:33:01 younix ok, i can try that
+2019-08-06 13:33:07 Rusty my problem was flashing the WRT without reset the factory firmware
+2019-08-06 13:33:12 younix maybe i can make the tftp server spam the network
+2019-08-06 13:33:17 Rusty or that
+2019-08-06 13:33:33 younix i did that once too
+2019-08-06 13:33:36 younix i had to jtag the thing
+2019-08-06 13:33:43 younix (that was in 2006)
+2019-08-06 13:34:28 Rusty now my router has been rock solid for months
+2019-08-06 13:34:34 younix \o/
+2019-08-06 13:34:40 Rusty the original firmware was sketchy
+2019-08-06 13:34:48 Rusty tp-link trash
+2019-08-06 13:34:50 younix it usually is
+2019-08-06 13:34:58 younix the hardware is usually pretty sketchy too
+2019-08-06 13:35:25 Rusty ya for sure, broadcomm anything is 10¢ chips
+2019-08-06 13:35:36 younix good to know
+2019-08-06 13:35:45 younix i hear the i.MX 6 is decent
+2019-08-06 13:36:12 Rusty i've read lots of good reviews about asus too
+2019-08-06 13:36:19 Rusty at least for home routers
+2019-08-06 13:36:52 younix did you hear about the mips exploit that they discovered a year or two ago?
+2019-08-06 13:37:18 Rusty no, but pretty much everything is exploited
+2019-08-06 13:37:22 younix mips has no floating point unit, and linux's software floating point implementation had some giant hole in it which let you root it pretty easily
+2019-08-06 13:37:35 younix (well, the mips chips on most routers has no fpu)
+2019-08-06 13:37:44 Rusty really?
+2019-08-06 13:37:56 Rusty lemme get my google on
+2019-08-06 13:38:05 younix yeah... should've been as high profile as meltdown or what have you
+2019-08-06 13:38:18 younix i guess it got lost amongst all the other vulnerabilities
+2019-08-06 13:38:34 Rusty https://dl.packetstormsecurity.net/papers/general/hacking-mips.pdf
+2019-08-06 13:39:02 younix that title sounds familiar
+2019-08-06 13:39:31 younix anyhow, recent linux kernels have fixed fpu emulation code
+2019-08-06 13:39:41 younix err, non-vulnerable fpu emulatin code
+2019-08-06 13:39:52 Rusty it's a white paper with several methods.... and it's only five pages long... so ya it's so easy a caveman could.
+2019-08-06 13:40:02 younix hahah
+2019-08-06 13:40:43 younix scary thing is how long the vulnerability was in billions of routers
+2019-08-06 13:40:53 younix (and still is)
+2019-08-06 13:40:58 Rusty look at Reaver/WPS
+2019-08-06 13:41:25 younix lol, wps
+2019-08-06 13:41:28 Rusty it made all wifi wide open, and to this day some routers come with WPS on by default.
+2019-08-06 13:41:41 younix indeed
+2019-08-06 13:41:54 younix 4 digit brute-forceable passwords ftw
+2019-08-06 13:42:01 Rusty lol....
+2019-08-06 13:42:08 Rusty ultra-secure
+2019-08-06 13:42:26 younix i remember disabling it when i learned that anyone could push a button on your router and login to your wifi
+2019-08-06 13:42:34 younix i didn't even know about the terrible desin
+2019-08-06 13:42:36 younix +g
+2019-08-06 13:43:12 Rusty lemme just say some peoples wifi passwds are VERY humorous....
+2019-08-06 13:43:28 Rusty you can learn alot about someone by their wifi passwd
+2019-08-06 13:43:39 younix did you get a password dump?
+2019-08-06 13:44:03 Rusty nah i read that somewhere.... i ain't never done nothing like dat
+2019-08-06 13:44:28 younix password dumps aren't illegal
+2019-08-06 13:44:49 younix they're just lists of passwords people have used, so admins can test their password files
+2019-08-06 13:44:55 Rusty didn't say it was
+2019-08-06 13:45:04 younix ok :)
+2019-08-06 13:45:21 Rusty jut said i didn't have one..
+2019-08-06 13:45:25 Rusty just
+2019-08-06 13:45:52 Rusty did you search the dd-wrt forum?
+2019-08-06 13:46:04 Rusty with your model #?
+2019-08-06 13:46:20 younix not yet ... i spent all afternoon yesterday messing around with routers and trying to resurrect an old mini-itx computer
+2019-08-06 13:47:19 younix i'll take a look later though
+2019-08-06 13:47:23 younix maybe tonight or tomorrow
+2019-08-06 13:47:50 Rusty ahhh proceed to the closest walmart and liberate yourself a 100 bucks on the way, router problem solved! <--- if in the US
+2019-08-06 13:48:00 younix (the mini-itx was such garbage... its bios is so terrible that when you try to boot off a USB stick, it freezes)
+2019-08-06 13:48:07 Rusty ewww
+2019-08-06 13:48:16 Rusty not sure what mini-itx is....
+2019-08-06 13:48:23 Rusty is it really tiny?
+2019-08-06 13:48:25 younix yep
+2019-08-06 13:48:27 younix :)
+2019-08-06 13:48:32 younix it's just a PC motherboard with 1 pci slot
+2019-08-06 13:48:36 younix and a smaller footprint
+2019-08-06 13:48:46 younix err, 2 slots
+2019-08-06 13:49:03 younix i think they're also called "mini pcs"
+2019-08-06 13:49:17 Rusty oh we usta get them with an amd chip solder right on
+2019-08-06 13:49:44 younix i think that's something else
+2019-08-06 13:49:44 Rusty an entire computer minus hardrive and ram for 70 bucks
+2019-08-06 13:49:51 younix i've seen those too
+2019-08-06 13:50:03 Rusty i'm pretty sure it was itx
+2019-08-06 13:50:11 Rusty and had one pci
+2019-08-06 13:50:40 Rusty this is back in the IDE cable days
+2019-08-06 13:50:55 younix i know mine has a socketed CPU
+2019-08-06 13:51:42 Rusty ahh maybe... i betya if i google it, i could find what i'm talking about... they were pretty prolific back in 2002
+2019-08-06 13:53:04 younix i suppose there's no reason you can't solder a cpu to an itx board :)
+2019-08-06 13:53:48 younix saves 12 cents on a socket, for sure
+2019-08-06 13:54:10 Rusty https://www.amazon.com/Biostar-Mini-DDR3-Motherboards-A68N-2100/dp/B00KXP4TR2
+2019-08-06 13:54:13 BitBot [Title] Amazon.com: Biostar Mini ITX DDR3 1333 Motherboards A68N-2100: Computers & Accessories - https://ttm.sh/B2
+2019-08-06 13:54:38 Rusty a stick of trash ram and presto light duty server
+2019-08-06 14:41:08 level3 can I get postgresql driver?
+2019-08-06 14:41:52 level3 for php something like apt-cache search php-pgsql I think
+2019-08-06 14:47:52 ~ben sure
+2019-08-06 14:50:12 ~ben ok it should be installed
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+2019-08-06 15:23:12 younix Rusty: i hope not too trashy... for rowhammer reasons
+2019-08-06 15:23:34 younix actually, super trashy is better
+2019-08-06 15:23:47 younix i forgot that it was ddr3 that first had the issue
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+2019-08-06 16:00:41 tomasino Dance dance revolution 3
+2019-08-06 16:01:43 tomasino https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbrnyOXN7Ko
+2019-08-06 16:01:45 BitBot [Title] Dance Dance Revolution 3rd Mix Nonstop Megamix / ダンスダンスレボリューション第3ミックスノンストップメガミックス - YouTube - https://ttm.sh/BF
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+2019-08-06 16:19:38 den1 ben
+2019-08-06 16:19:59 den1 can you assist me to change my username at tilde.team (yes, again and sorry :/)
+2019-08-06 16:21:39 younix tomasino: haha
+2019-08-06 16:22:06 den1 lol
+2019-08-06 16:22:14 den1 tilde.black has 10 random usernames given
+2019-08-06 16:22:46 den1 wish being able to change username with home directory without disturbing sysadmins
+2019-08-06 16:39:15 @khuxkm I would help you out but I'm not sure of what that entails
+2019-08-06 16:39:21 @khuxkm need more admin docs lol
+2019-08-06 16:41:12 den1 never mind, i will stay with den sorry about disturbing
+2019-08-06 16:41:14 level3 thank you ben
+2019-08-06 16:49:08 @khuxkm 3
+2019-08-06 16:49:10 @khuxkm fuck
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+2019-08-06 17:10:59 den1 hey can a admin setup jekyll for me? under my home directory in file blog
+2019-08-06 17:16:49 younix according to the docs, "Install Jekyll: gem install jekyll bundler -- That’s it! You’re ready to start using Jekyll."
+2019-08-06 17:54:03 fosslinux den1, khuxkm: run
+2019-08-06 17:54:24 fosslinux sudo usermod -l newusername den
+2019-08-06 17:54:58 fosslinux sudo usermod -d /home/newusername newusername
+2019-08-06 17:55:10 fosslinux sudo mv /home/den /home/newusername
+2019-08-06 17:55:19 fosslinux replacing newusername with den1's new username
+2019-08-06 17:55:25 fosslinux only a sudoer can do that
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+2019-08-06 18:54:16 multiplexd alternatively, sudo usermod -md /home/newusername -l newusername oldusername
+2019-08-06 19:09:23 fosslinux ;)
+2019-08-06 19:21:58 Rusty Ben! WOW that's nice and convenient, if you need a package just ask?!! I like it!
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+2019-08-06 20:09:43 level3 haha so I had to do sasl mechanism plain for freenode to work (:
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+2019-08-06 20:59:29 ~ben Rusty: a failed sudo apt install is usually good enough too
+2019-08-06 20:59:38 ~ben if it's a reasonable package
+2019-08-06 20:59:46 slipxy works for me
+2019-08-06 21:36:11 Rusty wait i can request a package by trying to install it? now thats hot
+2019-08-06 21:36:59 Rusty level3: freenode hates everything and forces SASL on lots of hosts/ips for no clear reason.
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+2019-08-06 23:42:27 ~ben sasl is nice
+2019-08-06 23:42:42 threv ^
+2019-08-06 23:45:17 BitBot [Gitea] (team/site) ben pushed 41dc87b8 to master: remove discord/ - https://tildegit.org/team/site/commit/41dc87b8604202f55a147b8afc9b1cd3348f27c4
+2019-08-06 23:46:17 younix are all failed sudo commands requests?
+2019-08-06 23:46:56 ~ben no
+2019-08-06 23:47:05 ~ben i'd just see the report
+2019-08-06 23:47:17 ~ben and if it's a reasonable package request i'll install it and respond
+2019-08-06 23:47:58 younix sudo please make all sudo commands requests
+2019-08-06 23:48:30 ~ben it goes to me via email so i guess that could work
+2019-08-06 23:48:54 younix sudo hi ben how are you doing, i hope you've been well
+2019-08-06 23:49:05 younix sudo lets do lunch
+2019-08-06 23:49:25 ~ben i've actually had a conversation like that
+2019-08-06 23:49:49 younix sudo I am Dr. Bakare Tunde, the cousin of Nigerian Astronaut, Air Force Major Abacha Tunde.
+2019-08-06 23:49:56 ~ben lol
+2019-08-06 23:50:00 ~ben sudo make me a sandwich
+2019-08-06 23:50:09 ~ben ok wow i'm falling asleep
+2019-08-06 23:50:11 ~ben time to bed
+2019-08-06 23:51:03 younix to bed!!!
+2019-08-06 23:51:09 younix i should bed as well
+2019-08-06 23:51:18 younix good beddings, fellows
+2019-08-07 00:01:13 robdrake Hello #team
+2019-08-07 00:13:33 dokuja ni ni peeps\
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+2019-08-07 04:45:55 den1 hey ben
+2019-08-07 04:46:26 den1 i want to setup my own tilde
+2019-08-07 04:46:29 den1 can you assist me
+2019-08-07 04:55:53 -- Kneazle is now known as kneezle
+2019-08-07 04:56:09 -- kneezle is now known as Kneezle
+2019-08-07 04:56:59 Kneezle what help do you need?
+2019-08-07 04:57:04 Kneezle all the scripts are online and available
+2019-08-07 04:58:18 den1 yes, but im looking for suitable script
+2019-08-07 04:58:28 den1 which one do you recommend
+2019-08-07 04:59:07 Kneezle depends on what you want to do
+2019-08-07 04:59:11 Kneezle do you care about the OS?
+2019-08-07 04:59:22 Kneezle what services do you want to run?
+2019-08-07 04:59:22 den1 debian 9
+2019-08-07 04:59:35 den1 irc, and shell
+2019-08-07 05:01:22 Kneezle hmm..
+2019-08-07 05:01:48 Kneezle they this
+2019-08-07 05:01:49 Kneezle https://git.envs.net/explore/repos
+2019-08-07 05:01:51 BitBot [Title] Explore - envs.net - gitea - https://ttm.sh/B0
+2019-08-07 05:01:57 Kneezle here are scripts for almost every part of a new tilde
+2019-08-07 05:03:23 den1 k thx
+2019-08-07 05:50:28 den1 can't find where to start
+2019-08-07 05:50:30 den1 :/
+2019-08-07 05:50:53 Kneezle do you have a VPS?
+2019-08-07 05:51:45 den1 ofc
+2019-08-07 05:51:49 Kneezle awesome
+2019-08-07 05:52:13 Kneezle step 1
+2019-08-07 05:52:17 Kneezle install apache
+2019-08-07 05:52:19 den1 i'm planning to start with aws ec2
+2019-08-07 05:52:26 Kneezle step 2
+2019-08-07 05:52:29 Kneezle install openssh
+2019-08-07 05:52:38 Kneezle step 3 make a signup website
+2019-08-07 05:52:55 Kneezle step 4 install weechat
+2019-08-07 05:53:06 Kneezle you are pretty much done there
+2019-08-07 05:53:38 den1 how to do virtualdir stuff? do you know
+2019-08-07 05:54:50 den1 i can write a python script which creates ln to /var/www/html
+2019-08-07 05:54:55 den1 but are there any other easy way?
+2019-08-07 05:56:06 Kneezle thats not a terrible way
+2019-08-07 05:56:13 Kneezle other ways are individual config files
+2019-08-07 05:56:18 Kneezle or a regex apache config
+2019-08-07 05:56:53 den1 oh will go with python script
+2019-08-07 05:57:03 den1 thanks for your help
+2019-08-07 05:57:22 Kneezle =)
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+2019-08-07 07:47:03 den1 hi ben
+2019-08-07 07:47:08 den1 i liked domain "tilde.site"
+2019-08-07 07:47:16 den1 is it possible for you to release it?
+2019-08-07 08:04:19 Kneezle why not make your own?
+2019-08-07 08:06:06 den1 already making my own
+2019-08-07 08:06:10 den1 but that's the domain
+2019-08-07 08:06:14 den1 i really liked it
+2019-08-07 08:06:29 den1 appears like ~site mirrors ~team
+2019-08-07 08:06:35 den1 but i can make a new one as ~site
+2019-08-07 08:27:30 den1 18.194.196.137
+2019-08-07 08:27:35 den1 created a new one
+2019-08-07 08:27:41 den1 oh sorry, that's not true place
+2019-08-07 08:27:48 den1 i will share it on meta
+2019-08-07 09:04:38 * cmccabe whispers 'good morning', in case anyone is still sleeping
+2019-08-07 09:05:09 Kneezle lol
+2019-08-07 09:05:16 Kneezle hi cmccabe
+2019-08-07 09:05:52 @cmccabe hi Kneezle
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+2019-08-07 09:15:41 ~ben good morning cmccabe
+2019-08-07 09:16:25 @cmccabe hey ben. gord morbling.
+2019-08-07 09:16:40 ~ben gourd mormbin
+2019-08-07 09:16:45 ~ben hump day
+2019-08-07 09:17:16 ~ben my manager just got me a license for vs2017 (currently running 2015) and i can't find downloads for it anywhere
+2019-08-07 09:17:23 ~ben it's all vs2019 now lol
+2019-08-07 09:18:45 Kneezle i can link you
+2019-08-07 09:18:46 Kneezle one sec
+2019-08-07 09:19:19 Kneezle you want pro?
+2019-08-07 09:21:06 kirk781 Hello folkjs
+2019-08-07 09:21:31 Kneezle yo kirk781
+2019-08-07 09:23:58 Kneezle try https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/vs/older-downloads/ ben
+2019-08-07 09:24:00 BitBot [Title] Download Older Visual Studio Software | Visual Studio - Visual Studio - https://ttm.sh/BB
+2019-08-07 09:25:39 ~ben idk what this license key is for lol
+2019-08-07 09:25:48 ~ben i did that and there were no download links
+2019-08-07 09:26:10 ~ben > Sorry, we couldn't find any downloads for you.
+2019-08-07 09:26:14 ~ben :<
+2019-08-07 09:26:28 Kneezle did you sign in to dev essentials?
+2019-08-07 09:26:31 ~ben and there's nothing on our network share that has all the other installers
+2019-08-07 09:26:57 Kneezle the link works for me
+2019-08-07 09:27:18 Kneezle you need to know what version to install though
+2019-08-07 09:27:21 Kneezle can you ask them?
+2019-08-07 09:27:23 ~ben 2017
+2019-08-07 09:27:29 ~ben ya i'll check
+2019-08-07 09:27:39 ~ben just annoying that the updated version is already out of date
+2019-08-07 09:28:48 Kneezle i have the file for you, but uploading it to ttm.sh is segfaulting
+2019-08-07 09:28:50 login ben: so you created a microsoft subscription account?
+2019-08-07 09:28:50 Kneezle one sec
+2019-08-07 09:29:14 login mega.nz for the win
+2019-08-07 09:29:17 Kneezle this should work
+2019-08-07 09:29:17 Kneezle https://transfer.sh/6oPNf/vs_professional.exe
+2019-08-07 09:29:23 Kneezle thats 2017 pro
+2019-08-07 09:29:28 login life saver = kneezle :)
+2019-08-07 09:29:47 Kneezle its from the site i linked you, its a free msft memebership thing
+2019-08-07 09:29:51 login does transfer.sh do p2p?
+2019-08-07 09:29:53 Kneezle <3 login
+2019-08-07 09:29:56 Kneezle no
+2019-08-07 09:30:05 login how did it upload so quickly?
+2019-08-07 09:30:12 Kneezle its like 100 bytes
+2019-08-07 09:30:15 Kneezle its a downloader
+2019-08-07 09:30:24 Kneezle thats now microsoft distributes it now
+2019-08-07 09:30:24 ~ben <3
+2019-08-07 09:30:24 login ah, so it connects to the internet itself and does it, yes?
+2019-08-07 09:30:28 Kneezle yeah
+2019-08-07 09:30:40 Kneezle microsoft dosen't offer the ISO anymore
+2019-08-07 09:30:44 ~ben the ms site logged me in with our sso ad thingy
+2019-08-07 09:30:50 Kneezle lol
+2019-08-07 09:30:51 ~ben $work's
+2019-08-07 09:30:56 Kneezle ah well
+2019-08-07 09:30:58 Kneezle try my link
+2019-08-07 09:31:03 ~ben our vs licensing must not be on there
+2019-08-07 09:31:24 Kneezle i didn't know if it was an "enterprise" or "pro" key
+2019-08-07 09:31:28 Kneezle i guessed pro
+2019-08-07 09:31:37 ~ben time to find out
+2019-08-07 09:31:53 ~ben thx again!
+2019-08-07 09:32:04 login does it say how many gbs it is?
+2019-08-07 09:33:24 Kneezle depends on what you need form it
+2019-08-07 09:33:38 Kneezle this is the enterprise installer
+2019-08-07 09:33:40 Kneezle https://transfer.sh/Vgma3/vs_enterprise.exe
+2019-08-07 09:33:45 ~ben oh i see the dev essentials thing now
+2019-08-07 09:33:50 ~ben and all the downloads are appearing
+2019-08-07 09:34:17 Kneezle yay
+2019-08-07 09:34:25 Kneezle this is community btw: https://transfer.sh/H8VSl/vs_community.exe
+2019-08-07 09:34:29 Kneezle so you have it all here too
+2019-08-07 09:42:01 den1 hey ben
+2019-08-07 09:42:11 den1 can we set up a mailbox for tilde.site?
+2019-08-07 09:42:23 ~ben it's already set up
+2019-08-07 09:42:27 ~ben den@tilde.site
+2019-08-07 09:42:34 ~ben goes to your ~team inbox
+2019-08-07 09:43:04 den1 k thx
+2019-08-07 09:43:38 ~ben https://tilde.team/wiki/email
+2019-08-07 09:43:39 BitBot [Title] email | tilde.team~wiki - https://ttm.sh/Bn
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+2019-08-07 11:04:01 Kneezle sweet jesus
+2019-08-07 11:04:07 Kneezle my boss is doing it again
+2019-08-07 11:04:20 Kneezle save me obi- ben - kenobi
+2019-08-07 11:04:24 Kneezle you are my only hope
+2019-08-07 11:04:28 tomasino what's your boss doing?
+2019-08-07 11:04:39 ~ben :')
+2019-08-07 11:04:42 ~ben bad things
+2019-08-07 11:05:04 Kneezle we have like six people on this call
+2019-08-07 11:05:11 Kneezle and he's wasting everyones time
+2019-08-07 11:05:15 threv that's what they do
+2019-08-07 11:06:15 ~ben classic
+2019-08-07 11:07:14 tomasino start telling a joke
+2019-08-07 11:07:20 tomasino that just goes on and on and on
+2019-08-07 11:07:23 tomasino until the day is over
+2019-08-07 11:08:07 threv the aristocrats!
+2019-08-07 11:08:14 ~ben knock knock
+2019-08-07 11:08:35 tomasino you know the pink joke?
+2019-08-07 12:23:09 Rusty oh i know that joke, it's called my inbox
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+2019-08-07 12:23:28 Rusty it just goes on & on and never really has a punchline
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+2019-08-07 14:12:54 @khuxkm tell the no punchline joke
+2019-08-07 16:13:55 tildebeast \o
+2019-08-07 16:31:22 truth hello team
+2019-08-07 16:56:38 * magni waves to truth
+2019-08-07 16:57:17 * truth waves back
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+2019-08-07 17:12:32 level3 .w level3
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+2019-08-07 17:13:20 @khuxkm nice
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+2019-08-07 17:13:53 level3 have you played with angular, service workers, and indexed db?
+2019-08-07 17:16:43 @khuxkm no
+2019-08-07 17:16:48 @khuxkm I prefer SQLite3
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+2019-08-07 17:19:10 threv sqlite3 can be an indexed db, no
+2019-08-07 17:19:11 threv ?
+2019-08-07 17:19:18 threv it's an rdbms
+2019-08-07 17:23:16 level3 indexeddb is a browser feature, not a "real" database
+2019-08-07 17:23:32 level3 https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/IndexedDB_API
+2019-08-07 17:23:37 BitBot [Title] IndexedDB API - Web APIs | MDN - https://ttm.sh/BL
+2019-08-07 17:27:09 truth wow, web browsers are practically full-blown operating systems nowadays :o
+2019-08-07 17:27:53 level3 pretty much
+2019-08-07 17:28:52 level3 especially with progressive web applications and service workers
+2019-08-07 17:48:44 threv for sure
+2019-08-07 17:55:28 younix truth: an operating system is just a really complex program
+2019-08-07 17:56:14 younix i wonder... does a browser have more code than an operating system by now?
+2019-08-07 17:56:36 slipyx what if i told you my browser /is/ an operating system
+2019-08-07 17:57:02 younix :o
+2019-08-07 17:57:43 younix oper. rating-system
+2019-08-07 17:58:00 * younix gives cmccabe 5 stars
+2019-08-07 17:58:15 * younix i meant 5 @'s
+2019-08-07 17:58:28 * younix is this how you use actions? i don't know someone msg me
+2019-08-07 17:58:53 threv yes
+2019-08-07 17:59:07 * younix ok threv i think i got it now thank you
+2019-08-07 18:00:59 threv ahahaha
+2019-08-07 18:02:18 younix so, someone found yet another intel spec exec vuln
+2019-08-07 18:02:24 younix is it time to use ARM cpus?
+2019-08-07 18:05:10 threv man, it's tough
+2019-08-07 18:05:18 threv speculative execution _greatly_ increases performance
+2019-08-07 18:05:24 threv finding these vectors is certainly fascinating
+2019-08-07 18:05:45 threv RISC isn't a magic bullet, as much as i genuinely adore the architecture fundamentals
+2019-08-07 18:06:04 threv branch prediction is a _hard_ nut to crack
+2019-08-07 18:08:00 threv i wish more programmers knew hardware
+2019-08-07 18:09:37 younix maybe we need to start building granularly parallelizable software, instead of trying to parallelize single threaded machine code
+2019-08-07 18:10:48 younix if you remove all safety checks, the linux kernel probably runs faster too
+2019-08-07 18:11:01 younix get rid of all those memory protection features!
+2019-08-07 18:11:22 younix pesky system integrity
+2019-08-07 18:11:35 younix move fast and break things! :D
+2019-08-07 18:11:55 younix * until the government shuts you down
+2019-08-07 18:12:26 threv oh hell no
+2019-08-07 18:12:34 threv hahahahaha
+2019-08-07 18:14:03 younix i wonder... would it be possible to turn on spec exec on just one CPU core, but somehow firewall its memory off from the rest of the system?
+2019-08-07 18:14:25 younix i guess since the workarounds are all in software, it should be doable
+2019-08-07 18:14:54 younix the people who really need to care about these vulnerabilities are cloud hosts
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+2019-08-07 18:15:38 threv not on die
+2019-08-07 18:15:54 threv problem is, the software literally disables branch prediction
+2019-08-07 18:15:58 threv so it's a microcode switch
+2019-08-07 18:16:04 threv which _dramatically_ decreases performance
+2019-08-07 18:16:25 threv the spec exec isn't a multicore-inherent issue, whatsoever
+2019-08-07 18:16:36 threv it's an issue on single core as well
+2019-08-07 18:17:00 younix the real problem is that one process can read memory it's not supposed to
+2019-08-07 18:17:02 younix or write to it
+2019-08-07 18:17:16 threv it's also rooted in timing issue
+2019-08-07 18:17:22 younix but what if you could never let one of the cores access sensitive memory?
+2019-08-07 18:17:33 threv then you don't have any other cores
+2019-08-07 18:17:52 younix i don't?
+2019-08-07 18:17:54 threv no.
+2019-08-07 18:18:02 younix i donut unnersands
+2019-08-07 18:18:05 threv okay so
+2019-08-07 18:18:15 threv 1) the issue isn't multicore
+2019-08-07 18:18:18 threv the issue is branch prediction
+2019-08-07 18:18:39 threv 2) if you disable a pipeline (a sub-core thing) access to cache/memory, then you effectively disable that entire core
+2019-08-07 18:21:13 threv basically the software fixes are literally microcode updates to the actual processor cores
+2019-08-07 18:21:20 threv what they do is disable branch prediction
+2019-08-07 18:21:29 threv that solves the problem
+2019-08-07 18:21:48 younix i'm probably confused... i thought you could workaround specexec in software
+2019-08-07 18:21:50 threv all modern processors, including ARM, have microcode
+2019-08-07 18:21:56 threv yes, the software is microcode
+2019-08-07 18:22:05 younix in non-microcode regular software
+2019-08-07 18:22:07 threv no
+2019-08-07 18:22:32 younix how did linux patch specexec before the microcode updates?
+2019-08-07 18:22:35 threv it didn't
+2019-08-07 18:22:38 threv it was a microcode update
+2019-08-07 18:22:42 younix ok
+2019-08-07 18:23:10 threv i sincerely apologize if i'm condescending, i do not mean to be :'(
+2019-08-07 18:23:26 younix hah, it's ok
+2019-08-07 18:23:28 threv okay, lemme think tho
+2019-08-07 18:23:48 younix i'm not a silicon specialist
+2019-08-07 18:24:03 threv no worries. specexec is a processor domain
+2019-08-07 18:24:17 threv the kernel could possibly trap a branch
+2019-08-07 18:24:38 threv which still destroys performance
+2019-08-07 18:24:48 younix i was thinking that you could contain the side-effects of specexec by using some kind of EPT and limiting the code to running on a specific core
+2019-08-07 18:24:56 threv negative :(
+2019-08-07 18:25:04 younix it seemed doable as long as the cache wasn't shared
+2019-08-07 18:25:12 threv again, it's not a multicore issue
+2019-08-07 18:25:37 younix the cores can have unique caches, can't they?
+2019-08-07 18:25:41 threv absolutely not
+2019-08-07 18:25:56 younix is that to make the cores smaller?
+2019-08-07 18:26:08 threv it's to solve the cache coherency problem
+2019-08-07 18:26:17 threv all cores MUST see the same cache
+2019-08-07 18:26:24 threv otherwise you have race conditions
+2019-08-07 18:26:38 younix when you have 2 physical cores though, they have separate caches, which can be separated
+2019-08-07 18:26:48 threv the caches still must be coherent
+2019-08-07 18:26:55 threv data in flight must be atomic
+2019-08-07 18:27:22 younix hmmm... why do they need to be coherent? like, if a process is pinned to a specific core...
+2019-08-07 18:27:41 level3 what if all cores are doing all different things
+2019-08-07 18:28:01 threv good question! if you have a parallel computation, there are no guarantees on which thread (----> core) will execute at any given time
+2019-08-07 18:28:05 threv therefore they must share some coherency
+2019-08-07 18:28:08 threv level3: also good question!
+2019-08-07 18:28:16 younix right, but what if it's not parallel
+2019-08-07 18:28:19 threv okay good question
+2019-08-07 18:28:28 younix how about a single threaded process pinned to one CPU core
+2019-08-07 18:28:28 threv if it's not parallel, then they still must be coherent!
+2019-08-07 18:28:31 threv okay1
+2019-08-07 18:28:31 level3 yeah so the answer I think is to not share any resources (:
+2019-08-07 18:28:41 threv again, this is _branch prediction_
+2019-08-07 18:28:47 threv forget about multiple cores
+2019-08-07 18:28:52 younix i understand :)
+2019-08-07 18:28:55 younix i'm talking about containment
+2019-08-07 18:28:58 threv right
+2019-08-07 18:29:38 threv branch prediction is a heuristic on already running code
+2019-08-07 18:29:44 threv you have a loop. does it terminate, or continue?
+2019-08-07 18:29:47 threv that's branch prediction
+2019-08-07 18:30:00 threv in speculative execution on a _single core_, both paths are chosen
+2019-08-07 18:30:27 threv the reason being, any bad guess is mitigated since both instruction paths are evaluated
+2019-08-07 18:30:39 younix the risk of specexec is that the nonchosen path will be able to mutate state it's not supposed to, right?
+2019-08-07 18:30:41 threv so if one 'result' is correct and the other is 'bad', the 'correct' one is chosen
+2019-08-07 18:30:44 younix or read it
+2019-08-07 18:30:53 threv no
+2019-08-07 18:31:04 threv it's the fact that if you do not do branch prediction, you MUST flush the _entire pipeline_
+2019-08-07 18:31:22 threv modern processors are generally superscalar, meaning there's 20+ stages that have been executed
+2019-08-07 18:31:45 threv if a processor must dispose of that entire execution, you then must repeat, which is _costly_
+2019-08-07 18:32:05 threv in fact, the data may have come from a memory page
+2019-08-07 18:32:19 threv so not only does the processor have to recalculate, but it must also wait on the data to be reloaded
+2019-08-07 18:32:32 threv we're talking a difference of 1 nanosecond vs 1 millisecond
+2019-08-07 18:32:41 threv which is a HUGE scale
+2019-08-07 18:32:52 younix millisecond??
+2019-08-07 18:32:56 threv yes
+2019-08-07 18:33:03 younix damn, g
+2019-08-07 18:33:06 younix that's wack
+2019-08-07 18:33:16 threv that's the whole reason processor cache exists
+2019-08-07 18:33:23 threv so yeah, it's a tough nut to crack!
+2019-08-07 18:33:30 younix hah, i'm sure it is
+2019-08-07 18:33:31 threv again, i sincerely apologize for being condescending
+2019-08-07 18:34:48 threv i suck at this
+2019-08-07 18:35:05 threv so, back to ARM
+2019-08-07 18:35:13 threv ARM is a RISC architecture
+2019-08-07 18:35:47 threv RISC is popular in 'low power' devices due to highly orthogonal opcodes, which are generally all the same bit length
+2019-08-07 18:36:16 threv as such, they are not superscalar, meaning they don't benefit from a pipeline of "simultaneous multi-stage execution"
+2019-08-07 18:36:27 threv don't think of it sa parallellism, think of it like an assembly line. RISC doesn't lend itself well to tat
+2019-08-07 18:36:30 threv *that
+2019-08-07 18:36:44 threv which is why ARM and RISC in general isn't an attack vector for specexec
+2019-08-07 18:36:50 threv they _do_ have branch prediction
+2019-08-07 18:36:59 threv however, it's not useful as an attack vector
+2019-08-07 18:37:10 threv such a timing attack yields garbage
+2019-08-07 18:37:18 younix i thought ARM chips just had shorter pipelines
+2019-08-07 18:37:19 threv thanks for coming to my TED talk.
+2019-08-07 18:37:22 threv exaclty1
+2019-08-07 18:37:22 younix hah
+2019-08-07 18:37:23 threv jfkdsal
+2019-08-07 18:37:25 threv exactly!
+2019-08-07 18:38:04 threv which is exactly why they're low power!
+2019-08-07 18:38:21 threv "power" in this definition meaning "low wattage"
+2019-08-07 18:39:02 threv exactly due to the smaller pipelines
+2019-08-07 18:39:55 threv sorry to ramble :'(
+2019-08-07 18:40:40 younix i'm reading about asymmetric multiprocessing now
+2019-08-07 18:40:54 threv hell yeah
+2019-08-07 18:41:46 threv younix: sorry
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+2019-08-07 18:42:14 younix "An option on the Burroughs B5000 was “Processor Bâ€. This second processor, unlike “Processor A†had no connection to the peripherals, though the two processors shared main memory, and Processor B could not run in Control State.[4] The operating system ran only on Processor A. When there was a user job to be executed, it might be run on Processor B, but when that job tried to access the
+2019-08-07 18:42:16 younix operating system the processor halted and signaled Processor A. The requested operating system service was then run on Processor A.
+2019-08-07 18:42:28 threv yes!
+2019-08-07 18:42:56 threv in fact, most modern OS's run on 1 core
+2019-08-07 18:42:59 threv which is to say
+2019-08-07 18:43:08 threv kernel mode is on one logical core
+2019-08-07 18:43:18 threv b/c it's SO MUCH EASIER and faster to keep it simple
+2019-08-07 18:43:34 threv fun fact! segmented memory isn't a thing anymore ;)
+2019-08-07 18:43:43 threv not with 64bit address space
+2019-08-07 18:44:00 younix unless you're the SMI handler
+2019-08-07 18:44:09 threv true
+2019-08-07 18:44:10 younix retro 16-bit mode
+2019-08-07 18:44:25 threv that's mostly handled in microcode now
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+2019-08-07 18:46:08 younix i can't remember the name of this computer off the top of my head, but there was some old (vacuum tube) air defense computing system which executed every instruction on two redundant cores, and compared the results
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+2019-08-07 18:46:25 younix if an instruction started to fail (because a tube died), it would emulate the missing instruction with the remaining functional instructions
+2019-08-07 18:46:47 younix it would slow down, but it would never stop working
+2019-08-07 18:46:52 threv tha'ts right
+2019-08-07 18:47:05 threv the apollo guidance system was similiar
+2019-08-07 18:47:18 threv meanwhile, i can't write software to save my life
+2019-08-07 18:47:44 younix i can write software, but i hate most programming languages
+2019-08-07 18:48:05 younix C is my nemesis
+2019-08-07 18:48:09 threv i can't code w/out thinking BUT WHAT IS THE COMPILER DOING
+2019-08-07 18:48:17 younix haha
+2019-08-07 18:48:44 younix i think there is a coding environment that lets you see the machine code output of your functions
+2019-08-07 18:49:25 threv oh for sure
+2019-08-07 18:49:37 threv that doesn't help when i'm trying to debug ;)
+2019-08-07 18:49:51 threv basically i suck at everything ahahaha
+2019-08-07 18:49:59 younix jack of all trades, master of none
+2019-08-07 18:50:04 younix often better than a master of one
+2019-08-07 18:50:04 threv _precisely_
+2019-08-07 18:50:32 threv i'm currently playing whack a mole with jython, inheriting from scala
+2019-08-07 18:51:00 younix you don't wanna see jython's machine code
+2019-08-07 18:51:11 threv _i seent it_
+2019-08-07 18:51:15 younix nooooooooooooo
+2019-08-07 18:51:29 younix have you seen graalpython?
+2019-08-07 18:51:37 threv yes!!
+2019-08-07 18:51:44 younix feels fresh
+2019-08-07 18:51:48 threv it looks incredible
+2019-08-07 18:51:55 threv the engineering involved is top notch
+2019-08-07 18:52:04 threv as much as i hate to give credit to the great oracle beast
+2019-08-07 18:52:13 younix yeah, i like that researcher behind graal/truffle
+2019-08-07 18:52:17 threv oh yeah for sure
+2019-08-07 18:52:40 younix it's either oracle or microsoft
+2019-08-07 18:52:41 younix :)
+2019-08-07 18:52:41 threv i'm a big fan of solid engineering
+2019-08-07 18:52:45 younix pick your poison
+2019-08-07 18:52:57 threv hell, i'm a fanatic about macOS core engineering
+2019-08-07 18:53:02 threv the os is so modular
+2019-08-07 18:53:21 threv they achieved a general purpose, performant micro++kernal
+2019-08-07 18:53:24 younix there is a lot of great stuff in macos
+2019-08-07 18:53:28 younix yeppp
+2019-08-07 18:54:38 younix macos can do things like provide consistent user interface features
+2019-08-07 18:54:49 younix even though their key bindings are annoying
+2019-08-07 18:55:04 younix the user interface guidelines are nice
+2019-08-07 18:55:05 threv yeah, the 'chrome' decisions aren't what 'im talking about really
+2019-08-07 18:55:08 threv *nod* totally
+2019-08-07 18:55:14 threv the core OS is a feat.
+2019-08-07 18:55:17 threv IMO of course
+2019-08-07 18:55:32 younix i haven't looked into the core os
+2019-08-07 18:55:43 younix but being able to build a responsive OS on a microkernel is pretty impressive
+2019-08-07 18:55:53 threv it's a hybrid microkernel
+2019-08-07 18:55:56 threv hang on a sec
+2019-08-07 18:56:12 threv http://www.newosxbook.com/index.php
+2019-08-07 18:56:13 BitBot [Title] *OS Internals: - Welcome! - https://ttm.sh/B5
+2019-08-07 18:56:15 threv i bought this book years ago
+2019-08-07 18:56:28 threv it's pre-x86 transition, but the OS fundamentals are the same
+2019-08-07 18:56:36 younix i stumbled across this the other day -- the high level requirements of a secure kernel, which led to both Mach and SELinux: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FLASK
+2019-08-07 18:56:40 BitBot [Title] FLASK - Wikipedia - https://ttm.sh/BG
+2019-08-07 18:56:42 threv yes!
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+2019-08-07 18:58:06 threv hoisted by my own petard
+2019-08-07 18:58:40 petard :)
+2019-08-07 18:59:03 younix lol, Mach-O
+2019-08-07 18:59:07 threv yup
+2019-08-07 18:59:59 younix did i throw genode.org at you yet?
+2019-08-07 19:01:23 threv negative
+2019-08-07 19:01:57 younix if you're a fan of microkernels, you should find it interesting
+2019-08-07 19:02:14 threv yes please
+2019-08-07 19:02:34 threv oh i'm on board
+2019-08-07 19:02:47 younix it's an abstraction over a bunch of kernels which lets you do virtualization, sanboxinging, ipc, etc.
+2019-08-07 19:03:06 threv i'm an OS nerd
+2019-08-07 19:03:15 threv you have just directed me down a rabbit hole
+2019-08-07 19:03:39 younix one of the most interesting design decisions was that all the "components" (contained processes) are written in a subset of C++ which can only listen to and respond to events from its parents
+2019-08-07 19:03:54 younix so a component can't talk to anything unless explicitly talked to
+2019-08-07 19:03:56 threv oh nice, like obj-c or the actor concept
+2019-08-07 19:03:57 threv right
+2019-08-07 19:04:22 younix they've done a lot of great work so far
+2019-08-07 19:04:35 threv 2nice
+2019-08-07 19:05:27 younix all drivers are usermode components!
+2019-08-07 19:05:38 threv which is good! until you need performance
+2019-08-07 19:05:40 younix each component that wants networking has its own separate tcp driver
+2019-08-07 19:05:43 threv in fact
+2019-08-07 19:05:48 threv that's exactly how RTOS works
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+2019-08-07 19:06:12 threv let the usermode component die, spin up a new 'daemon'
+2019-08-07 19:06:15 younix i think performance is overrated for most applications :)
+2019-08-07 19:06:30 younix look at where we are right now -- we're on IRC in 2019, giving links to gopher sites
+2019-08-07 19:06:34 threv haha
+2019-08-07 19:06:37 threv facts
+2019-08-07 19:06:39 threv we're the minority
+2019-08-07 19:06:44 younix that's fine
+2019-08-07 19:07:05 younix let everyone else run an operating system in their browsers
+2019-08-07 19:07:21 tomasino gopher is life
+2019-08-07 19:07:23 threv ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
+2019-08-07 19:07:25 younix :)
+2019-08-07 19:08:03 younix hmm.. what else is neat about genode... oh yeah, it has drivers ported from linux and *bsd, virtualbox runs on it with iommu support
+2019-08-07 19:08:11 younix it has a linux emulation layer called "noux"
+2019-08-07 19:08:28 younix there's a pile of ported software, qt runs natively on it
+2019-08-07 19:08:51 younix anything that runs on one kernel will run on all kernels
+2019-08-07 19:09:26 younix here's another rabbithole: https://genodians.org/ :)
+2019-08-07 19:09:28 BitBot [Title] Genodians.org - Stories around the Genode Operating System - https://ttm.sh/BK
+2019-08-07 19:09:48 younix this guy is the best: https://genodians.org/nfeske/index
+2019-08-07 19:09:49 BitBot [Title] Genodians.org: posts of Norman Feske - https://ttm.sh/Bz
+2019-08-07 22:16:52 ~ben henlo
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+2019-08-08 10:23:14 quantumm wow
+2019-08-08 10:23:28 quantumm just figured out every home directory has its own vm
+2019-08-08 10:23:29 quantumm right?
+2019-08-08 10:23:46 quantumm quantumm@tilde:~/public_html$ junest -f
+2019-08-08 10:23:48 quantumm Error: Nested JuNest environments are not allowedy
+2019-08-08 10:25:42 quantumm and probably yes, pacman works
+2019-08-08 10:26:00 quantumm don't know if its already open-source in tildegit but seem interesting to me
+2019-08-08 10:38:21 ~ben own vm?
+2019-08-08 10:38:23 ~ben no
+2019-08-08 10:38:32 ~ben what's junest
+2019-08-08 10:44:00 quantumm some vm thing
+2019-08-08 10:44:04 quantumm which runs without root
+2019-08-08 10:44:13 quantumm which is good way to let users install packages
+2019-08-08 10:44:14 ~ben never heard of it
+2019-08-08 10:44:17 quantumm sorry if im wrong
+2019-08-08 10:44:20 quantumm really sorry then
+2019-08-08 10:44:30 * ben ddg junes
+2019-08-08 10:44:30 quantumm wasnt trying to manipulate
+2019-08-08 10:44:32 ~ben t
+2019-08-08 10:44:40 ~ben if you have package requests just let me know :)
+2019-08-08 10:44:51 quantumm k
+2019-08-08 10:45:02 quantumm for now can i try junest without harming system?
+2019-08-08 10:45:08 ~ben oh i just looked it up
+2019-08-08 10:45:11 ~ben ya go for it
+2019-08-08 10:45:14 quantumm thx
+2019-08-08 10:45:16 ~ben it's userspace proot
+2019-08-08 10:45:20 ~ben should be fine
+2019-08-08 10:45:20 tomasino ooooh
+2019-08-08 10:45:22 tomasino cool
+2019-08-08 10:45:23 quantumm yes
+2019-08-08 10:45:26 tomasino handy
+2019-08-08 10:45:28 ~ben https://github.com/fsquillace/junest
+2019-08-08 10:45:31 BitBot [Title] GitHub - fsquillace/junest: The lightweight Arch Linux based distro that runs upon any Linux distros without root access - https://ttm.sh/By
+2019-08-08 10:45:31 ~ben looks really cool tbh
+2019-08-08 10:45:41 quantumm it should be installed on every home directory with some rules i think
+2019-08-08 10:45:57 ~ben not sure if i'll install it systemwide but you're free to use it
+2019-08-08 10:45:57 quantumm i tried it on another server
+2019-08-08 10:45:59 quantumm it works fine
+2019-08-08 10:46:09 quantumm k
+2019-08-08 10:51:22 ~ben quantumm: looks like the best way to run it is junest -u
+2019-08-08 10:54:14 quantumm i did -f
+2019-08-08 10:54:35 ~ben -f might be funky
+2019-08-08 10:54:38 quantumm it is same thing as i know
+2019-08-08 10:54:44 quantumm yes because outdated
+2019-08-08 10:54:54 ~ben https://github.com/fsquillace/junest#linux-namespaces-based
+2019-08-08 10:54:56 BitBot [Title] GitHub - fsquillace/junest: The lightweight Arch Linux based distro that runs upon any Linux distros without root access - https://ttm.sh/B6
+2019-08-08 10:55:18 quantumm yes, it is more stable way will use it next time
+2019-08-08 10:55:24 quantumm but it is really helpful
+2019-08-08 10:55:30 quantumm really liked it
+2019-08-08 10:55:32 ~ben proot is no longer officially supported
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+2019-08-08 10:55:46 quantumm yes read that, and bugs wont fixed by junest
+2019-08-08 10:55:50 ~ben yup
+2019-08-08 10:56:14 quantumm also when running for first time it gives signature errors
+2019-08-08 10:56:26 quantumm just copy-paste them to your search engine and you will find solution
+2019-08-08 10:56:49 quantumm letme do it for you
+2019-08-08 10:58:03 quantumm pacman-key --refresh-keys
+2019-08-08 10:59:29 login what a cool usrname, ctl
+2019-08-08 11:19:35 younix ben: nix is good for user space packages too
+2019-08-08 11:20:04 ~ben o ya for sure
+2019-08-08 11:20:54 login i wish there were a way to install venvs that didn't get mangled with every update
+2019-08-08 11:21:08 ~ben what update
+2019-08-08 11:21:15 login and also a way to have binary api stability in libcrypto.so
+2019-08-08 11:21:20 login os update
+2019-08-08 11:21:24 ~ben oh?
+2019-08-08 11:21:29 ~ben i've not run in to that
+2019-08-08 11:21:50 login on tilde.town, the latest os update meant they moved from python3.6 to python3.7
+2019-08-08 11:22:01 login i haven't checked, but i know tilde.town/~ensis/tildegraph hasn't been fixed yet
+2019-08-08 11:22:13 ~ben oh that broke venvs?
+2019-08-08 11:22:25 login the generator used python3.6 in a venv, and since there's only 3.7 now, all the venvs symlinked to 3.6 have invalid symlinks
+2019-08-08 11:22:33 ~ben ohh
+2019-08-08 11:22:40 ~ben huh
+2019-08-08 11:22:42 login it also broke libcrypto.so for me because it updated from 1.0 to 1.1
+2019-08-08 11:22:48 ~ben well at least it's not too hard to rebuild venvs
+2019-08-08 11:22:50 login i had to recompile scrypt to get it to link again
+2019-08-08 11:23:01 login but ensis is away at the moment, and their code used to work but doesn't any more
+2019-08-08 11:23:06 login for no fault of their own
+2019-08-08 11:23:21 ~ben more evidence that python packaging is Bad
+2019-08-08 11:23:31 login tcoin logging in and logging out failed because of libcrypto1.0 to libcrypto1.1
+2019-08-08 11:23:48 ~ben couldn't you just recompile?
+2019-08-08 11:23:52 login i'm sure the binary api is the exact same, but since dynamic library, therefore all the offsets have moved
+2019-08-08 11:24:00 login i had to, when i found out logging in and logging out wasn't working
+2019-08-08 11:24:15 ~ben ah so everything else was working?
+2019-08-08 11:24:17 login if i had, let's say, moved away from tilde.town for some reason and hoped that the code i wrote would continue to function
+2019-08-08 11:24:19 login that won't be the case
+2019-08-08 11:24:38 ~ben sometimes os upgrades break things
+2019-08-08 11:24:43 login yes, everything else was working but logging in (because that uses libcrypto to hash using scrypt)
+2019-08-08 11:24:48 ~ben ~team won't be upgrading until 20.04
+2019-08-08 11:34:50 Rusty for the first time in my life an OS upgrade fixed something
+2019-08-08 11:35:21 ~ben lol awesome
+2019-08-08 11:35:26 Rusty strangely it was bluetooth...
+2019-08-08 11:35:46 ~ben wow that's Wild
+2019-08-08 11:35:52 ~ben never would've guessed that :P
+2019-08-08 11:35:52 Rusty which is only established tech for what a solid decade
+2019-08-08 11:41:49 login In Kashmir, the government has had a commnications blackout
+2019-08-08 11:42:04 login no internet, no phone calls
+2019-08-08 11:42:22 login the only way to mass communicate would be a p2p bluetooth network for example
+2019-08-08 11:42:42 login i swear, if whatsapp hadn't sold to facebook, they would have done that next
+2019-08-08 11:42:46 login tried to make it work p2p
+2019-08-08 11:44:11 login however, it wouldn't help if i was in one country and the other person were in another
+2019-08-08 11:44:23 login only undersea cables or (with bad latency) satellite internet would help with that
+2019-08-08 12:11:12 magni there is a p2p chat app that has been popular during these kinds of things: https://www.opengarden.com/firechat/
+2019-08-08 12:11:14 BitBot [Title] FireChat – Open Garden - https://ttm.sh/Ih
+2019-08-08 12:11:53 magni > FireChat has been utilized by community organizers, emergency responders and private citizens to communicate when cut off from outside networks, including pro-democracy protests in Taiwan and Hong Kong, natural disasters in Ecuador and Kashmir, and off-the-grid events like Burning Man and Summit at Sea.
+2019-08-08 12:17:33 magni and in some countries, like Iran, folks download illicit information via satellite: https://www.wired.com/2016/04/ingenious-way-iranians-using-satellite-tv-beam-banned-data/
+2019-08-08 12:17:36 BitBot [Title] The Ingenious Way Iranians Are Using Satellite TV to Beam in Banned Internet | WIRED - https://ttm.sh/Id
+2019-08-08 12:18:23 login how do they beam out requests?
+2019-08-08 12:19:32 magni unfortunately, its only 1-way
+2019-08-08 12:19:42 magni it seems they still have access to things like Tor, but internet is unreliable and expensive
+2019-08-08 12:20:56 magni > the Toosheh project sends thousands of Iranians a daily digital bundle of news articles, videos, and audio—everything from Persian music videos to critical news coverage of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard.
+2019-08-08 12:37:08 --> den (den) (den@envs.net) has joined #team
+2019-08-08 12:55:15 login so it's like the internet, but not on-demand
+2019-08-08 12:56:11 Rusty why didn't they just drive to starbucks and use the internet?
+2019-08-08 12:56:53 Rusty and how does the internet work one way?
+2019-08-08 12:57:03 Rusty cause i don't understand
+2019-08-08 13:00:20 login someone who has satellite internet downloads stuff they think others might find useful
+2019-08-08 13:00:40 login since the information is worth more than the cost of a flash drive and copying it on to one
+2019-08-08 13:01:02 login the person who has satellite internet can share said stuff for the price of the flash drive
+2019-08-08 13:01:16 login or one can simply transfer it computer-to-computer
+2019-08-08 13:01:25 login or phone-to-phone, or flashdrive-to-flashdrive
+2019-08-08 13:01:40 login so it's technically two-way internet, but not for each person
+2019-08-08 13:01:52 login only for the person who somehow has access to satellite internet (because they can't block that)
+2019-08-08 13:02:11 login they'd need to create a balloon in the air or jamming signals that would disrupt their own military comms etc.
+2019-08-08 13:02:21 login although iran doesn't have a really strong military (or so the news says)
+2019-08-08 13:02:21 Rusty interesting
+2019-08-08 13:02:33 login there's the "appear weak when you're strong, and strong when you're weak"
+2019-08-08 13:02:38 login the US appears strong, iran appears weak
+2019-08-08 13:02:41 login you can draw your own conclusions
+2019-08-08 13:03:03 login the existence of that statement supports the aim of that statement
+2019-08-08 13:03:23 login if iran were weak and appeared weak, but if you know that sentence, the sentence satisfies itself
+2019-08-08 13:03:32 Rusty the US isn't as strong as it appears, not do to lack of might, but political pressures.
+2019-08-08 13:03:33 --> Alina25 (realname) (~Alina@68.red-83-51-175.dynamicip.rima-tde.net) has joined #team
+2019-08-08 13:04:26 login US soft power only exists if it's used in a way that a majority of countries agree with
+2019-08-08 13:04:31 younix Iranian Starbucks \o/
+2019-08-08 13:04:35 Rusty lol
+2019-08-08 13:04:40 login (more than a majority, because 51% of people fighting with 49% of people is not a good plan)
+2019-08-08 13:04:47 Rusty younix: not so much, eh
+2019-08-08 13:04:54 login is there a starbucks in iran?
+2019-08-08 13:05:05 younix I assume not
+2019-08-08 13:05:15 Rusty if iran had stayed the course in the 70s it would be a reality.
+2019-08-08 13:05:31 login You're talking about the Gulf War?
+2019-08-08 13:05:36 login Iran's invasion of Kuwait?
+2019-08-08 13:05:36 younix Mmm... Course
+2019-08-08 13:05:48 login I wasn't alive then, so it didn't happen to me ;)
+2019-08-08 13:05:55 login i'e probably dated myself
+2019-08-08 13:05:56 younix That was Iraq
+2019-08-08 13:06:03 Rusty no the 1979 revolution...
+2019-08-08 13:06:09 login i.e., i've probably made it easy to determine my age
+2019-08-08 13:06:20 Rusty previous to that they were quite contemporary
+2019-08-08 13:06:27 login not that i've gone on a date with myself (that would be weird and strange)
+2019-08-08 13:06:32 younix :(
+2019-08-08 13:06:44 login was the 1979 revolution a cia false flag operation?
+2019-08-08 13:06:57 login it'll probably be released 100 yaers from 1979, so 2079
+2019-08-08 13:06:58 younix Lol
+2019-08-08 13:07:11 login 2047 is when hong kong goes back to china
+2019-08-08 13:07:22 login the gamble is, will china become like hong kong before then, or will hong kong become like china before then
+2019-08-08 13:07:37 login because things won't just change within a few hours of the date in 2047
+2019-08-08 13:07:43 Rusty not really, https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/01/27/15/3C903F5B00000578-4148684-image-a-113_1485529374518.jpg this is Tehran in 71
+2019-08-08 13:07:57 login i said i wouldn't get into politics, but alas
+2019-08-08 13:08:13 younix Rawr
+2019-08-08 13:08:34 younix Amazing how fast things change
+2019-08-08 13:08:55 login i wonder who made the 1979 revolution happen
+2019-08-08 13:09:06 login these kinds of trends are often like a pendulum
+2019-08-08 13:09:28 Rusty the revolution was spurned by the islamics....
+2019-08-08 13:09:48 Rusty i forget the drivers name, but it's all on the googler
+2019-08-08 13:10:11 login google is the new god
+2019-08-08 13:10:19 Rusty government is
+2019-08-08 13:10:29 Rusty but google is the agent
+2019-08-08 13:11:56 Rusty and the rest of corporate media and social media are the censors.
+2019-08-08 13:29:37 <-- quantumm (quantumm@tilde.team) has quit (quit: WeeChat 2.5)
+2019-08-08 13:29:53 threv 1979 iran revolution was spearheaded by ayatollah khomeni
+2019-08-08 13:29:57 --> quantumm (quantumm) (quantumm@tilde.team) has joined #team
+2019-08-08 13:29:58 threv who was the first 'supreme leader'
+2019-08-08 13:30:02 younix Government has the physical force, but Google has the mind share
+2019-08-08 13:30:08 -- quantumm is now known as root
+2019-08-08 13:30:11 root lol
+2019-08-08 13:30:16 root ben
+2019-08-08 13:30:18 root is it normal
+2019-08-08 13:30:19 threv heh
+2019-08-08 13:30:36 root xdxd
+2019-08-08 13:30:40 -- root is now known as quantumm
+2019-08-08 13:30:48 quantumm threv can you try it?
+2019-08-08 13:31:10 younix If he was the spear head, who was the shaft?
+2019-08-08 13:31:13 threv try what
+2019-08-08 13:31:19 quantumm ./nick root
+2019-08-08 13:31:24 quantumm /nick root
+2019-08-08 13:31:24 threv i don't see why not
+2019-08-08 13:31:24 younix And who threw the spear?
+2019-08-08 13:31:37 threv your irc username isn't tied to your login on ~team
+2019-08-08 13:31:40 -- threv is now known as root
+2019-08-08 13:31:41 root see
+2019-08-08 13:31:42 -- root is now known as threv
+2019-08-08 13:32:16 quantumm yes
+2019-08-08 13:32:18 quantumm ur right
+2019-08-08 13:32:21 younix quantumm: are you ircing as root?
+2019-08-08 13:32:27 quantumm yes
+2019-08-08 13:32:34 younix That's very dangerous
+2019-08-08 13:32:42 login Government uses Google, but Google doesn't need government
+2019-08-08 13:32:48 quantumm actually ircing as root with vm
+2019-08-08 13:32:51 younix Unless it's a raspberry pi
+2019-08-08 13:32:55 younix Ok :)
+2019-08-08 13:33:02 younix Still a bad idea
+2019-08-08 13:33:05 quantumm xd
+2019-08-08 13:33:10 login google's answer to libra is ... GPay+AndroidPay(now Gpay)
+2019-08-08 13:33:14 quantumm no worries switching back xd
+2019-08-08 13:33:17 <-- quantumm (quantumm@tilde.team) has quit (quit: WeeChat 2.5)
+2019-08-08 13:33:17 login Samsung's answer to libra is ... samsung pay
+2019-08-08 13:33:22 --> quantumm (quantumm) (quantumm@tilde.team) has joined #team
+2019-08-08 13:33:22 login apple's answer to libra is ... apple pay
+2019-08-08 13:33:27 threv not really
+2019-08-08 13:33:30 -- quantumm is now known as root
+2019-08-08 13:33:40 younix I thought libra was a crypto currency
+2019-08-08 13:33:41 -- root is now known as quantumm
+2019-08-08 13:33:43 threv it is
+2019-08-08 13:33:45 quantumm isnt it?
+2019-08-08 13:33:46 login why not just adopt bitcoin lol
+2019-08-08 13:33:51 threv why adopt bitcoin
+2019-08-08 13:34:00 younix Gpay and spay are just payment processors
+2019-08-08 13:34:00 login why can't facebook just make a lightning node and do it that way
+2019-08-08 13:34:04 threv why would they
+2019-08-08 13:34:04 login so is libra
+2019-08-08 13:34:06 threv and yeah exactly younix
+2019-08-08 13:34:08 threv no it isn't
+2019-08-08 13:34:17 threv none of those are 'answers' to libra at all
+2019-08-08 13:34:24 login alternatives then?
+2019-08-08 13:34:31 younix Facebook wants to own it
+2019-08-08 13:34:35 threv no
+2019-08-08 13:34:35 login why not just open a bank in every country?
+2019-08-08 13:34:45 younix Lol wat
+2019-08-08 13:34:45 login and have correspondent accounts between them
+2019-08-08 13:34:46 threv not alternatives at all
+2019-08-08 13:34:48 threv huh
+2019-08-08 13:34:58 threv why would they
+2019-08-08 13:35:01 threv why would any of them
+2019-08-08 13:35:03 login that way, it can offer international money transfer by itself
+2019-08-08 13:35:05 threv that makes no sense
+2019-08-08 13:35:11 threv that's already possible
+2019-08-08 13:35:15 younix A bank is still underneath regulatory authorities and needs currency reserves
+2019-08-08 13:35:16 login but not for free
+2019-08-08 13:35:23 threv well, yeah
+2019-08-08 13:35:29 login and not for cheap eitehr
+2019-08-08 13:35:35 login it's not as easy as venmo
+2019-08-08 13:35:35 threv so?
+2019-08-08 13:35:36 younix Crypto currency means Facebook can be the central bank
+2019-08-08 13:35:37 threv okay
+2019-08-08 13:35:44 threv crypto is dumb anyway
+2019-08-08 13:35:54 login just gotta get a huge lightning node and start market making on the exchanges
+2019-08-08 13:35:57 threv but yeah apple pay and whatnot are nothing like 'libra'
+2019-08-08 13:35:59 threv what
+2019-08-08 13:36:22 login why is crypto dumb?
+2019-08-08 13:36:23 threv apple card is nothing like libra too
+2019-08-08 13:36:34 login libra is better than them or worse?
+2019-08-08 13:36:37 younix "just"
+2019-08-08 13:36:39 threv it's different
+2019-08-08 13:36:47 threv crypto is a waste of energy
+2019-08-08 13:36:50 threv it is not a currency
+2019-08-08 13:37:02 threv it's watching techbros learn 2000+ years of finance history in a short period of time
+2019-08-08 13:37:13 younix threv: that's not a property of crypto, just of Bitcoin (see: chia)
+2019-08-08 13:37:16 login well, that certainly sounds true
+2019-08-08 13:37:23 login i've heard of chia
+2019-08-08 13:37:25 threv i still think crypto is stupid
+2019-08-08 13:37:31 threv 'be your own bank' is bad
+2019-08-08 13:37:33 login i don't think they can distinguish between a smartphone and a desktop
+2019-08-08 13:37:34 threv 'no chargebacks' is bad
+2019-08-08 13:37:41 threv no third party is bad
+2019-08-08 13:37:49 login PayID in Australia doesn't have chargeback
+2019-08-08 13:37:51 login and it's pretty good
+2019-08-08 13:37:52 threv that's bad
+2019-08-08 13:38:01 younix Chia actually addresses a lot of those issues as well
+2019-08-08 13:38:08 ~ben henlo
+2019-08-08 13:38:15 younix It's a good project to watch
+2019-08-08 13:38:21 login in any case, it's hard for me to send money and earn money on the internet
+2019-08-08 13:38:25 threv i thoroughly dislike crypto
+2019-08-08 13:38:26 login the regulation is a huge headache
+2019-08-08 13:38:31 threv it's beanie baby bullshit
+2019-08-08 13:38:33 younix My big issue with crypto is how money is created
+2019-08-08 13:38:40 threv regulation generally protects from bad actors
+2019-08-08 13:38:43 login what about things like usdcoin?
+2019-08-08 13:38:44 younix It's a lottery
+2019-08-08 13:38:45 threv in an ideal situation that is
+2019-08-08 13:38:50 threv younix: oh yeah, that's stupid for sure
+2019-08-08 13:38:59 login those who have money should get more
+2019-08-08 13:39:06 login that's proof of stake
+2019-08-08 13:39:09 threv huh?
+2019-08-08 13:39:17 younix Good for onboarding people, bad long term
+2019-08-08 13:39:32 login gold is as useful as crypto
+2019-08-08 13:39:36 threv no it isn't
+2019-08-08 13:39:39 threv sorry.
+2019-08-08 13:39:39 ~ben threv: i also thoroughly dislike crypto
+2019-08-08 13:39:42 threv it's farrrr more useful
+2019-08-08 13:39:48 ~ben cryptocurrencies--
+2019-08-08 13:39:49 BitBot [Karma] cryptocurrencies now has -6 karma
+2019-08-08 13:39:53 threv it's been an exchange of value (a currency) for _centuries_
+2019-08-08 13:40:06 threv i'm a fan of fiat, which i know is generally unpopular
+2019-08-08 13:40:07 younix login: are you trying to avoid reading by trolling?
+2019-08-08 13:40:08 login but according to warren buffet
+2019-08-08 13:40:21 threv he's not trolling, he's just saying he dislikes it
+2019-08-08 13:40:25 login if an alien came to see what gold is, they'd be perplexed
+2019-08-08 13:40:28 threv sure okay
+2019-08-08 13:40:37 threv if an alien came to see what any of our systems are, they'd be perplexed
+2019-08-08 13:40:49 login you haven't heard the whole sentence, so the 'sure okay' seems disingenuous
+2019-08-08 13:41:01 threv it's an empty statement
+2019-08-08 13:41:27 younix Gold has a lot of good properties as money: soft (easy to divide), hard to fake (density, touchstone), rare
+2019-08-08 13:41:27 login it's just that we dig gold out of the ground, purify it, then pay people to lock it up in vaults
+2019-08-08 13:41:30 login and look after it
+2019-08-08 13:41:32 threv ok
+2019-08-08 13:41:34 threv younix: exactly
+2019-08-08 13:41:44 threv that's a terribly reductive statement, login
+2019-08-08 13:41:45 login what's touchstone?
+2019-08-08 13:41:51 younix It's also a great conductor, so it has a real use as well
+2019-08-08 13:41:55 login it's warren buffet's statement against investing in gold
+2019-08-08 13:41:56 threv it sure is
+2019-08-08 13:42:01 threv okay
+2019-08-08 13:42:13 threv like i said i'm a fan of fiat
+2019-08-08 13:42:30 threv i remember in the 00's there was a lot of talk radio commercials saying INVEST IN GOLD
+2019-08-08 13:42:35 threv to drive up the price
+2019-08-08 13:42:38 login the gold was in the ground, now it's in the bank, and it has gained value. i find it funny, characterising it like that
+2019-08-08 13:42:47 younix Fiat requires a benevolent dictator
+2019-08-08 13:42:55 threv a lot of the FUD the ads stirred up sounds remarkably similar to the crypto canards
+2019-08-08 13:42:56 login Fiat requires a responsible federal reserve/central bank
+2019-08-08 13:42:56 younix Otherwise it's really easy to exploit
+2019-08-08 13:43:36 younix The federal reserve is a pretty bad model
+2019-08-08 13:43:36 login i've heard those in venezuela use dash
+2019-08-08 13:43:53 threv https://www.reflectacles.com/#beyond
+2019-08-08 13:43:53 younix A privately owned national Bank
+2019-08-08 13:43:55 BitBot [Title] REFLECTACLES: IRpair, Phantom & Ghost - https://ttm.sh/Iu
+2019-08-08 13:43:57 threv i disagree
+2019-08-08 13:44:04 threv i think the federal reserve is a strong example
+2019-08-08 13:44:20 login everybody who holds us dollars trusts the federal reserve
+2019-08-08 13:44:32 threv the great recession could have been worse than the great dpression, and i think the federal reserve model was a bulwark against that possibility
+2019-08-08 13:44:34 login if they blow it up, nobody will trust it any more (after a lot of pain)
+2019-08-08 13:45:13 younix threv: they didn't fix the problems in the system though, they just doubled the money supply
+2019-08-08 13:45:22 login i wish i could take 90% of the money i had and lend it out, while making it seem like all the money was still there with the ones who deposited it with me
+2019-08-08 13:45:27 younix Now we have more bubbles
+2019-08-08 13:45:29 threv any monetary system is inherently unstable
+2019-08-08 13:45:38 threv bubbles have existed for centuries
+2019-08-08 13:45:42 younix All they did was delay the problem
+2019-08-08 13:45:53 login if you delay the problem forever, that's a solution ;)
+2019-08-08 13:45:56 threv i like the idea that at least in the US, the value of a dollar is roughly tied to 'consumer confidence'
+2019-08-08 13:46:03 younix login: nope
+2019-08-08 13:46:25 threv since the economy is a reflection of 'consumer confidence' in itself, anywya, tying the value of a unit of exchange makes sense to me
+2019-08-08 13:46:30 login the sun will become a red giant... that's a problem
+2019-08-08 13:46:38 login it's delayed so far into the future that everything alright ;)
+2019-08-08 13:46:40 login solution :)
+2019-08-08 13:46:43 threv but i'm not an economist
+2019-08-08 13:46:49 threv i just push buttons on a plastic dingus until lights do what i like
+2019-08-08 13:46:52 login that sun example was jsut trolling
+2019-08-08 13:47:05 younix threv: the power of the us dollar comes from the huge army, the brand, and being the world reserve currency for international settlements
+2019-08-08 13:47:09 login the workers of the 1900s would be so surprised at how money is made today
+2019-08-08 13:47:19 threv younix: yes, all of that together
+2019-08-08 13:47:30 threv for sure those are HUGE factors
+2019-08-08 13:47:38 threv i'm including that in 'consumer confidence' as well
+2019-08-08 13:47:54 younix That's a ripe situation for corruption
+2019-08-08 13:48:05 login and you can't call it out, or you'll be called corrupt too
+2019-08-08 13:48:07 threv idk
+2019-08-08 13:48:10 younix No real checks and balances
+2019-08-08 13:48:11 login thus, there's no corruption :)
+2019-08-08 13:48:16 threv i dunno if i agree
+2019-08-08 13:48:26 threv in a depression, the rich lose as well
+2019-08-08 13:48:36 login i don't like that i can't send goods to cuba or north korea or iran
+2019-08-08 13:48:47 login or whichever other places have sanctions on them
+2019-08-08 13:48:51 threv that has more to do with international relations than monetary policy
+2019-08-08 13:49:09 login but one powers the other
+2019-08-08 13:49:19 threv kinda?
+2019-08-08 13:49:27 threv you're conflating things that aren't really related
+2019-08-08 13:49:28 login or, one is used as a tool for the other
+2019-08-08 13:49:41 threv it's not due to those nations' monetary policy that you can't send $
+2019-08-08 13:49:41 login this is regarding the use of the us dollar as a reserve currency for international settlements
+2019-08-08 13:49:45 younix In a depression a lot of rich people end up buying huge amounts of property that poor people can't afford; there are huge wealth transfers upwards
+2019-08-08 13:49:51 threv younix: sure
+2019-08-08 13:50:03 threv it's still cutting off your nose to spite your face
+2019-08-08 13:50:16 login get poor people to 'invest' with the hope of striking it rich out of desperation
+2019-08-08 13:50:16 younix Depends on if you know it's coming
+2019-08-08 13:50:18 threv i still think the federal reserve model is a solid one
+2019-08-08 13:50:27 login then bomb the system and take your cut
+2019-08-08 13:50:31 login rinse, repeat
+2019-08-08 13:51:01 login I think SDR should be used as a reserve currency
+2019-08-08 13:51:13 login special-drawing-rights (the international monetary fund's "currency")
+2019-08-08 13:51:20 younix threv: the other issue with the Fed (as opposed to a regular central bank) is that it lends money to the government at interest...
+2019-08-08 13:51:36 younix It's not a regular lender though
+2019-08-08 13:51:39 threv correct
+2019-08-08 13:51:45 younix Because it invents the money
+2019-08-08 13:51:55 younix It has to reserves
+2019-08-08 13:51:55 threv and with the understanding that the value of said money changes over time
+2019-08-08 13:52:07 younix So it's creating more instability
+2019-08-08 13:52:15 threv i disagree
+2019-08-08 13:52:23 threv i think it works well as a bulwark against instability
+2019-08-08 13:52:32 threv its flexibility gives it leg room
+2019-08-08 13:52:42 login I thought the government issued bonds and sold them to raise capital.
+2019-08-08 13:52:50 login And those bonds were bought by banks (or the federal reserve)
+2019-08-08 13:52:50 threv that's part of what they do
+2019-08-08 13:52:51 younix As Einstein said, compound interest is the most powerful force in the universe
+2019-08-08 13:53:03 login haha, it's powerful
+2019-08-08 13:53:16 younix Other countries don't need to borrow from themselves
+2019-08-08 13:53:34 login They do too
+2019-08-08 13:53:36 younix The concept is nuts
+2019-08-08 13:54:04 younix Money, ideally, is an accounting system
+2019-08-08 13:54:06 login The real nuts concept is one country borrowing from another in a currency that the borrower controls
+2019-08-08 13:54:17 login That definition of money, i agree with
+2019-08-08 13:54:53 login every country issues bonds, either in their own currency, or in another currency
+2019-08-08 13:55:01 login (except north korea maybe)
+2019-08-08 13:55:08 threv good gravy coffee makes me pee
+2019-08-08 13:55:16 younix Haha
+2019-08-08 13:55:27 younix Mmmm... Gravy coffee
+2019-08-08 13:55:30 login i think bitcoin was soemthing i'd get into if i were a kid on the internet trying to make some money
+2019-08-08 13:55:43 login i'd never convert it to fiat because i wouldn't be able to show hte source of funds
+2019-08-08 13:55:47 login well, other than the blockchain
+2019-08-08 13:56:31 threv younix: haha
+2019-08-08 13:56:51 login well, i guess i'm being ignored. i'll duck out of here in that case, ttyl
+2019-08-08 13:57:03 login the silent treatment works well. perhaps china should try it with the us
+2019-08-08 13:57:30 threv no sorry
+2019-08-08 13:57:32 threv i'm working
+2019-08-08 13:57:38 threv my attention is divided
+2019-08-08 13:57:55 login don't apologise, you're alright
+2019-08-08 13:58:31 threv not ignoring you
+2019-08-08 14:05:03 younix i gotta get food, then i got an appointment
+2019-08-08 14:05:05 younix bbl
+2019-08-08 14:08:11 -- quantumm is now known as BitBo7
+2019-08-08 14:08:18 -- BitBo7 is now known as quantumm
+2019-08-08 15:42:35 quantumm lol
+2019-08-08 15:42:43 quantumm just accidentally broke permissions of my home directory
+2019-08-08 15:42:55 quantumm ben can you edit it with chmod?
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+2019-08-08 15:49:09 truth hello team
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+2019-08-09 09:08:50 tiwesdaeg ben: I have a new project
+2019-08-09 09:21:46 ~ben tiwesdaeg: what's the project?
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+2019-08-09 09:51:33 tiwesdaeg ben: I'm doing cross stitch!
+2019-08-09 09:51:39 ~ben awesome!
+2019-08-09 09:51:46 tiwesdaeg it's like writing one pixel at a time
+2019-08-09 09:52:11 ~ben lol that sounds about right :)
+2019-08-09 09:52:13 tiwesdaeg it's for my wife since she appreciates things like this
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+2019-08-09 09:52:28 tiwesdaeg I don't think she cars much about software ;P
+2019-08-09 09:52:51 ~ben good point ;)
+2019-08-09 09:53:06 login what about software that makes her life easier or her time more fun?
+2019-08-09 09:54:35 tiwesdaeg the more unobtrusive software is for her the better
+2019-08-09 10:02:57 <-- BitBot (bitbot@bitbot.dev) has quit (quit: upgrades)
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+2019-08-09 10:13:50 tiwesdaeg so I've been wanting to rewrite the back end of some of my weather station in c
+2019-08-09 10:14:16 tiwesdaeg but my c knowledge is very limited, so I've been using a book to learn, but I feel like it's taking forever
+2019-08-09 10:14:44 tiwesdaeg should I just dive head first and learn as i program?
+2019-08-09 10:31:06 ~ben might as well
+2019-08-09 10:31:15 ~ben just watch out for your string manipulations
+2019-08-09 10:31:21 ~ben and memory leaks
+2019-08-09 10:34:31 login tiwesdaeg: diving head first and learning as one programs is how 'tcoin' got made haha
+2019-08-09 10:34:42 login b3n is right. string manipulation and memory leaks are all too common
+2019-08-09 10:34:54 login and i'm not sure how one could create self-resizing data-structures in C
+2019-08-09 10:34:58 login there must be a library that does it
+2019-08-09 10:36:44 ~ben login: https://tildegit.org/ben/kilo/src/branch/master/kilo.c#L739-L759
+2019-08-09 10:36:46 BitBot [Title] ben/kilo: tiny editor < 1024 sloc - kilo.c at master - kilo - tildegit - https://ttm.sh/IZ
+2019-08-09 10:36:50 ~ben could be as simple as this
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+2019-08-09 10:38:46 login ,g s in sloc coding
+2019-08-09 10:38:47 BitBot [Google] (s in sloc coding) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Source_lines_of_code
+2019-08-09 10:38:58 login well, the url slug was useful
+2019-08-09 10:45:17 ~ben significant lines of code
+2019-08-09 10:58:22 tiwesdaeg hmm, yeah, by books hasn't even gotten to strings
+2019-08-09 10:58:29 tiwesdaeg just the char variable
+2019-08-09 10:58:48 tiwesdaeg I guess strings in c are just an array of chars
+2019-08-09 11:00:28 ~ben ya strings are just char*
+2019-08-09 11:01:15 tiwesdaeg so many variables for integers and floats
+2019-08-09 11:01:23 tiwesdaeg reminds me of when I played with rust once
+2019-08-09 11:04:10 ~ben lol yea lots of number types
+2019-08-09 11:04:17 ~ben chars are just numbers too
+2019-08-09 11:04:40 tiwesdaeg in rust it's like u16
+2019-08-09 11:04:48 tiwesdaeg instead od unsigned whatever
+2019-08-09 11:04:53 tiwesdaeg yep
+2019-08-09 11:05:19 tiwesdaeg the book taught me how to convert capital to lower case using math with char variables
+2019-08-09 11:05:35 ~ben oh yea
+2019-08-09 11:05:53 ~ben bitshift
+2019-08-09 11:07:19 tiwesdaeg also learned about bitwise operations
+2019-08-09 11:07:39 tiwesdaeg that's neat how you can store a bunch of boolean information in one byte
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+2019-08-09 11:11:13 ~ben ya it's quite handy
+2019-08-09 11:11:20 ~ben tbh my c is super basic
+2019-08-09 11:11:40 tiwesdaeg my everything programming is super basic
+2019-08-09 11:12:21 ~ben heh
+2019-08-09 11:12:28 ~ben honestly mine too
+2019-08-09 11:12:31 ~ben #impostorsyndrome
+2019-08-09 11:13:36 tiwesdaeg at least I've got all my text editors setup for pretty colors
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+2019-08-09 11:18:57 ~ben hehe that's an important step
+2019-08-09 11:20:19 petard Hi all... I have a dumb question about https://znc.tilde.team ... I'm logged in via ssh right now with public key, have changed my password, and confirmed that I can log into nextcloud and webmail.
+2019-08-09 11:20:21 BitBot [Title] ZNC - Web Frontend - https://ttm.sh/IK
+2019-08-09 11:20:54 petard when I try to log into znc using the same user/pass, I get "Invalid login!"
+2019-08-09 11:21:30 petard is there somewhere else I need to set that password, or is my password likely tripping some length/special character/etc restriction?
+2019-08-09 11:21:37 ~ben no it should work
+2019-08-09 11:21:39 ~ben one sec
+2019-08-09 11:22:04 ~ben try now
+2019-08-09 11:22:13 ~ben i think i've got an issue with my adduser script
+2019-08-09 11:22:40 ~ben znc and nextcloud both auth with your shell password but the account needs to exist beforehand for znc
+2019-08-09 11:22:53 ~ben and it's not creating the account right now for some reason
+2019-08-09 11:22:58 petard i'm in. thanks!
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+2019-08-09 11:25:02 ~ben np!
+2019-08-09 11:26:46 petard (and as an aside... your adduser script must be impressive, if for no other reason than the number of things it gets set up. i'm guessing, e.g., nextcloud, is not just using pam :))
+2019-08-09 11:28:11 ~ben nextcloud and znc auth via imap :)
+2019-08-09 11:28:13 ~ben so that's easy
+2019-08-09 11:28:32 ~ben petard: this is the script https://tildegit.org/team/makeuser/src/branch/master/makeuser
+2019-08-09 11:28:33 BitBot [Title] team/makeuser: A script that allows admins of tilde.team to make user accounts easily. - makeuser at master - makeuser - tildegit - https://ttm.sh/Iz
+2019-08-09 11:29:05 ~ben and the signup form sends an email to the sudoers (people with @ and above here) with the command already formatted to run
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+2019-08-09 15:13:51 slipyx why cant i stay signed in to gitea for more than a day
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+2019-08-09 16:58:46 ~ben uh
+2019-08-09 16:58:48 ~ben idk
+2019-08-09 16:59:38 radiobot cat is now online playing (cat) now playing: Parvus Decree - The Floor ~~ 9 listeners! tune in now here: https://tilderadio.org/listen
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+2019-08-10 01:15:14 login welcome back, kirk781
+2019-08-10 01:15:26 kirk781 login, hello
+2019-08-10 01:15:32 login hello
+2019-08-10 01:15:38 kirk781 watt'as up
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+2019-08-10 01:20:19 login nothing much, a little under pressure
+2019-08-10 01:20:21 login you?
+2019-08-10 02:51:41 fosslinux :(
+2019-08-10 02:51:47 fosslinux we don't like being under pressure
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+2019-08-12 09:22:40 BitBot [Gitea] (team/site) [PR] ben commented on #41: Add ~best - https://tildegit.org/team/site/pulls/41#issuecomment-2088
+2019-08-12 10:12:30 @cmccabe morning teamos
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+2019-08-12 10:15:17 ~ben henlo cmccabe
+2019-08-12 10:17:55 @cmccabe henlo
+2019-08-12 10:19:04 den1 hi
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+2019-08-12 11:22:33 -- Topic for #team is "tilde.team stuff: https://tilde.team/wiki/ ~ https://tildegit.org/team"
+2019-08-12 11:22:33 -- Topic set by ben on Fri, 14 Jun 2019 13:58:22
+2019-08-12 11:22:33 -- Channel #team: 98 nicks (5 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 93 normals)
+2019-08-12 11:22:39 -- Channel created on Tue, 19 Jun 2018 14:12:30
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+2019-08-12 12:29:05 level3 hi team, to use sqlite3 in my php website do I need to make www-data the owner of the database file?
+2019-08-12 12:29:40 @khuxkm no
+2019-08-12 12:29:53 @khuxkm just set a=rw
+2019-08-12 12:30:11 @khuxkm if people want to mess with your thing enough, they'll find a way anyways
+2019-08-12 12:31:04 @khuxkm I mean, I could technically drop in as sudo and chown the directory to level3:www-data
+2019-08-12 12:31:15 @khuxkm then you could set the dir to 775
+2019-08-12 12:32:35 level3 I ran chmod 777 /home/level3/ulogger.db
+2019-08-12 12:32:51 @khuxkm well, you don't need to 777 the database file
+2019-08-12 12:33:09 @khuxkm technically 666 (rw-rw-rw-) is all you need
+2019-08-12 12:33:21 @khuxkm since you aren't executing a database (at least I hope not)
+2019-08-12 12:33:50 level3 I also tried 775
+2019-08-12 12:34:12 level3 this is the script https://level3.tildeteam.org/scripts/setup.php
+2019-08-12 12:34:15 BitBot [Title] • μlogger • - https://ttm.sh/nl
+2019-08-12 12:52:27 level3 I made it 666 but no luck :( $ ls -l /home/level3/public_html/ulogger.db -rw-rw-rw- 1 level3 team 0 Aug 12 12:50 /home/level3/public_html/ulogger.db
+2019-08-12 12:52:53 level3 !ping
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+2019-08-12 13:55:22 level3 also I bought some unsalted saltines from safeway last month and I just noticed it says JUL2619S1914/1PC12288 20:32 so so crackers expire? do they expire this fast?
+2019-08-12 13:58:56 @cmccabe that expiration date is just there to give the illusion thay the crackers are made with real organic matter
+2019-08-12 14:02:56 level3 jajaja
+2019-08-12 14:05:35 level3 also I wonder if Google will rate limit me if I take a (relatively low res) photo every five seconds with a motorola e4 phone and auto backup to Google Photos.
+2019-08-12 14:07:42 @cmccabe low-res, no way. that can't possibly be more bandwidth than streaming movies
+2019-08-12 14:08:05 @cmccabe or lots of other common uses
+2019-08-12 14:11:46 level3 I thought it would be amusing to see my face change as I read code and try to write code
+2019-08-12 14:17:22 ~ben google doesn't have a rate limit on uploading photos
+2019-08-12 14:17:46 ~ben and if it's on the lower quality setting it will not have a limit on the number of photos
+2019-08-12 14:18:49 level3 if you hire programmers, please don't give them all three of these: 1. windows 2. 8 GB RAM 3. a mechanical hard disk
+2019-08-12 14:20:39 level3 be back later
+2019-08-12 14:20:52 level3 let me know if you know any way to fix my sqlite issue :)
+2019-08-12 14:21:16 ~ben what's the issue?
+2019-08-12 14:21:31 ~ben lol ok i'll give them 4gb ram
+2019-08-12 14:23:07 @cmccabe ben, you masochist
+2019-08-12 14:29:13 ~ben lol no that'd make me a sadist
+2019-08-12 14:34:25 ~ben level3: https://ben.ttm.sh/sqlite.php
+2019-08-12 14:34:28 ~ben sqlite example
+2019-08-12 14:38:54 ~ben also see https://ben.ttm.sh/sqlite.php.txt
+2019-08-12 14:39:00 ~ben for source
+2019-08-12 15:12:06 level3 i am confused
+2019-08-12 15:12:21 ~ben about what
+2019-08-12 15:14:02 level3 about sqlite
+2019-08-12 15:14:39 level3 I will post a link to github about the project I am using
+2019-08-12 15:15:40 level3 it is called ulogger server. basically there is an app on android called ulogger that records gps location every so often and sends it to the ulogger serve of your choice
+2019-08-12 15:16:00 level3 I've used it with heroku and postgres but not with sqlite yet
+2019-08-12 15:16:42 ~ben oh ok
+2019-08-12 15:17:41 level3 I think it should work because it uses pdo and there are only three tables: user, track, and points or somethinggg
+2019-08-12 15:17:54 ~ben oh yeah pdo should be fine
+2019-08-12 15:18:16 level3 but I get an error saying read only database :(
+2019-08-12 15:18:51 ~ben what are the permissions on it
+2019-08-12 15:19:07 level3 i tried 777, 755, 666
+2019-08-12 15:21:15 ~ben https://www.php.net/manual/en/ref.pdo-sqlite.php#57356
+2019-08-12 15:21:17 BitBot [Title] PHP: SQLite (PDO) - Manual - https://ttm.sh/n8
+2019-08-12 15:22:30 ~ben chmod 757 project-dir
+2019-08-12 15:22:39 ~ben chmod 646 project-dir/dbfilename.sqlite
+2019-08-12 15:22:44 ~ben level3: ^
+2019-08-12 15:22:49 ~ben https://ben.ttm.sh/sqlite/sqlitepdo.php
+2019-08-12 15:23:34 level3 ok
+2019-08-12 15:24:09 ~ben so my ~/public_html/sqlite dir is 757 and ~/public_html/sqlite/messaging.sqlite3 is 646
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+2019-08-12 16:03:50 testuser glad it worked :D
+2019-08-12 16:03:56 ~ben +1
+2019-08-12 16:04:11 den1 now will work on public_html
+2019-08-12 16:04:13 den1 again
+2019-08-12 16:04:24 den1 i was installed nginx succesfully at my other installation
+2019-08-12 16:04:29 den1 will do it again
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+2019-08-12 16:08:56 level3 thank you ben
+2019-08-12 16:08:58 level3 it works
+2019-08-12 16:08:58 ~ben np
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+2019-08-12 17:24:20 level3 :D
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+2019-08-13 09:40:31 @cmccabe morningzorg everyone
+2019-08-13 09:42:02 ~ben henlo
+2019-08-13 09:46:52 tiwesdaeg hey-o
+2019-08-13 09:51:02 ~ben happy tuesdey
+2019-08-13 09:51:17 @cmccabe tudesday woo
+2019-08-13 09:51:56 ~ben tudes
+2019-08-13 09:52:00 ~ben huge tudes
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+2019-08-13 10:23:03 level3 happy tuesday friends
+2019-08-13 10:24:10 level3 my database is already 456 KB almost half a meg
+2019-08-13 10:24:28 @cmccabe this is your db of photos?
+2019-08-13 10:24:35 @cmccabe level3 ^
+2019-08-13 10:25:03 level3 lols no it is a database of gps readings
+2019-08-13 10:25:27 level3 https://github.com/bfabiszewski/ulogger-server/
+2019-08-13 10:25:29 BitBot [Title] GitHub - bfabiszewski/ulogger-server: μlogger • web viewer for tracks uploaded with μlogger mobile client - https://ttm.sh/nH
+2019-08-13 10:30:14 tiwesdaeg best day of the week
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+2019-08-13 12:20:45 truth hello team
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+2019-08-13 13:07:23 den1 hi truth
+2019-08-13 13:07:42 ~ben helo
+2019-08-13 13:07:48 den1 hi ben
+2019-08-13 13:07:53 ~ben how goe sit
+2019-08-13 13:07:55 den1 setup is done
+2019-08-13 13:08:05 den1 just opendkim and spf stuff remeaning
+2019-08-13 13:08:10 den1 remaining
+2019-08-13 13:08:21 ~ben not sure setup is fully done then ;)
+2019-08-13 13:08:21 den1 you can send a email with ur ssh pubkey :)
+2019-08-13 13:08:26 den1 lol
+2019-08-13 13:08:33 ~ben https://ben.ttm.sh/sshpubkey.txt
+2019-08-13 13:08:35 ~ben or
+2019-08-13 13:08:40 ~ben gpg --export-ssh-key ben@tilde.team
+2019-08-13 13:08:45 den1 which one do you rather
+2019-08-13 13:08:47 den1 same
+2019-08-13 13:08:49 ~ben it's the same key
+2019-08-13 13:08:51 den1 yep
+2019-08-13 13:09:11 ~ben gpg --auto-key-locate keyserver --locate-keys ben@tilde.team
+2019-08-13 13:09:18 den1 desired username: ben?
+2019-08-13 13:09:21 ~ben sure
+2019-08-13 13:20:12 den1 your account is ready
+2019-08-13 13:20:18 den1 please try it and tell me if something is not working
+2019-08-13 13:20:29 den1 also will edit motd now
+2019-08-13 13:22:10 ~ben i will when i get home
+2019-08-13 13:22:17 ~ben i don't have my yubikey with me
+2019-08-13 13:24:52 den1 great! :)
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+2019-08-13 16:38:37 reddd sup
+2019-08-13 16:38:45 ~ben o/
+2019-08-13 16:38:50 ~ben how goes it
+2019-08-13 16:38:59 reddd p gud
+2019-08-13 16:39:13 reddd how do u switch between buffers on weechat?
+2019-08-13 16:39:37 reddd think the normal keys are being used for byobu
+2019-08-13 16:41:19 ~ben https://weechat.org/files/doc/stable/weechat_user.en.html#key_bindings
+2019-08-13 16:41:23 BitBot [Title] WeeChat user’s guide - https://ttm.sh/WG
+2019-08-13 16:41:23 ~ben ctrl-n and ctrl-p
+2019-08-13 16:41:31 ~ben also alt-a
+2019-08-13 16:41:41 ~ben jumps to the next unread buffer
+2019-08-13 16:43:37 reddd ah im dumb
+2019-08-13 16:47:42 ~ben all the keys are there too ^ :)
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+2019-08-13 20:49:19 slipyx oh that darn bsd again
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+2019-08-13 21:25:01 robdrake anyone on that can add a key to my rgdrake account on tilde.team?
+2019-08-13 21:26:36 robdrake just wanting a gopherhole, and tired of walls w/ gopher and inetd on theasylum
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+2019-08-13 22:01:02 robdrake actually, I'll catch you all later, I'm going to rest / sleep
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+2019-08-13 22:30:10 fosslinux robdrake: git clone https://github.com/gophernicus/gophernicus && cd gophernicus && git checkout v3.0.1 && make && sudo make install
+2019-08-13 22:30:12 fosslinux then
+2019-08-13 22:30:13 BitBot [Title] GitHub - gophernicus/gophernicus: Gophernicus is a modern full-featured (and hopefully) secure gopher daemon - https://ttm.sh/Tu
+2019-08-13 22:32:50 fosslinux oops no, git checkout 3.0.1 (no v)
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+2019-08-14 08:05:42 BitBot [Gitea] (team/site) [PR] best requested #42 merge into master: Add ~best - https://tildegit.org/team/site/pulls/42
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+2019-08-14 09:10:23 BitBot [Gitea] (team/site) [PR] ben commented on #42: Add ~best - https://tildegit.org/team/site/pulls/42#issuecomment-2097
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+2019-08-14 10:09:09 BitBot [Gitea] (team/site) [PR] best closed #42: Add ~best - https://tildegit.org/team/site/pulls/42
+2019-08-14 10:11:25 BitBot [Gitea] (team/site) [PR] best requested #43 merge into master: Add ~best - https://tildegit.org/team/site/pulls/43
+2019-08-14 10:11:40 den ben: it should be ok now
+2019-08-14 10:11:48 ~ben there's no reason to close a pr
+2019-08-14 10:11:52 ~ben if you're just updating it
+2019-08-14 10:11:56 den lol
+2019-08-14 10:11:58 den forget about it
+2019-08-14 10:11:59 ~ben you misspelled the domani
+2019-08-14 10:12:02 ~ben tilde.bet
+2019-08-14 10:12:04 den just opened a new one already
+2019-08-14 10:12:22 ~ben you can just rewrite the commit on the pr that the branch is for
+2019-08-14 10:12:26 ~ben or push another commit
+2019-08-14 10:12:29 den also not sure if there is a way to do this on web
+2019-08-14 10:12:32 ~ben ?
+2019-08-14 10:12:38 ~ben no reason to close the pr
+2019-08-14 10:12:40 den i did this commit on tildegit.org
+2019-08-14 10:12:44 ~ben what
+2019-08-14 10:12:47 den online
+2019-08-14 10:12:49 den i mean
+2019-08-14 10:12:51 den using browser
+2019-08-14 10:12:56 ~ben :o
+2019-08-14 10:12:57 den that's why
+2019-08-14 10:13:00 ~ben i didn't know you could do that
+2019-08-14 10:13:02 den i opened a new one
+2019-08-14 10:13:05 den :DD
+2019-08-14 10:13:12 den i do html edits on browser
+2019-08-14 10:13:17 ~ben gross
+2019-08-14 10:13:29 den and markdown :D
+2019-08-14 10:13:39 ~ben i pull all of my things locally
+2019-08-14 10:13:54 den thats also good idea
+2019-08-14 10:13:57 den will do this in the future
+2019-08-14 10:14:09 den and sorry for commiting something illegal at tilde :DD
+2019-08-14 10:14:27 ~ben it's not illegal i just didn't expect it
+2019-08-14 10:14:31 den lol jk
+2019-08-14 10:14:34 ~ben i'll fix your typo when i merge
+2019-08-14 10:14:58 den i was also planning to buy ~cool
+2019-08-14 10:15:03 den maybe i will if someone didn't
+2019-08-14 10:15:13 den also have you seen byod?
+2019-08-14 10:15:22 ~ben bring your own drink
+2019-08-14 10:15:34 den s/drink/domain
+2019-08-14 10:15:41 den why it didnt worked
+2019-08-14 10:15:41 ~ben oh?
+2019-08-14 10:15:44 den lol
+2019-08-14 10:15:58 den https://tildegit.org/best/byod
+2019-08-14 10:15:59 BitBot [Title] best/byod: bring your own domain to tilde - byod - tildegit - https://ttm.sh/TP
+2019-08-14 10:16:00 ~ben if you're correcting someone else you need to mention them
+2019-08-14 10:16:15 den ben: s/someone/test
+2019-08-14 10:16:15 sedbot if you're correcting test else you need to mention them
+2019-08-14 10:16:19 den yep
+2019-08-14 10:16:21 den thx
+2019-08-14 10:16:55 ~ben lol why use json
+2019-08-14 10:17:05 den what to use then?
+2019-08-14 10:17:12 ~ben plain text
+2019-08-14 10:17:16 den really
+2019-08-14 10:17:18 ~ben since you're only putting a single domain
+2019-08-14 10:17:29 den but in the future more than a
+2019-08-14 10:17:33 den domain planned
+2019-08-14 10:17:35 ~ben you should verify that the domain has the dns configured properly before trying to issue a cert
+2019-08-14 10:17:49 den it already does same thing isnt it
+2019-08-14 10:17:51 den it can issue a cert
+2019-08-14 10:18:00 den it can't issue one if it isnt configured
+2019-08-14 10:18:04 den but lets implement that too
+2019-08-14 10:18:10 den which command do you recommend?
+2019-08-14 10:18:32 ~ben dig
+2019-08-14 10:18:48 den dig $domain
+2019-08-14 10:18:53 ~ben you should also verify that ~/$domain exists before setting it as the server root
+2019-08-14 10:19:03 ~ben dig +short a $domain
+2019-08-14 10:19:17 ~ben and it should equal dig +short a tilde.best
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+2019-08-14 10:23:01 den ben: done
+2019-08-14 10:23:10 ~ben https://tilde.team/wiki/other-tildes
+2019-08-14 10:23:22 ~ben oh BitBot was down when i pushed
+2019-08-14 10:23:24 ~ben lol
+2019-08-14 10:23:38 den :D
+2019-08-14 10:23:49 den can you become a part of byod project?
+2019-08-14 10:24:03 den because as you can see im really bad and need help
+2019-08-14 10:24:09 ~ben lol maybe
+2019-08-14 10:24:40 ~ben also you had 3 commits on your branch for team/site
+2019-08-14 10:24:43 BitBot [Title] other tildes | tilde.team~wiki - https://ttm.sh/FC
+2019-08-14 10:25:45 den lol, did some edits on domain but created pull request different
+2019-08-14 10:25:59 ~ben yes you didn't need to close the pull request
+2019-08-14 10:26:25 den ben: can you take a look at last version im almost sure there are things that needs to be edited
+2019-08-14 10:26:32 den (byod)
+2019-08-14 10:28:04 den also i will implement sendmail if a records arent equal
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+2019-08-14 11:55:25 lytedev clear
+2019-08-14 11:55:27 lytedev ls
+2019-08-14 11:55:38 ~ben hi lytedev
+2019-08-14 11:55:45 lytedev ... that is never going to be not embarassing
+2019-08-14 11:55:48 lytedev hi, ben lol
+2019-08-14 11:55:53 ~ben :)
+2019-08-14 11:56:01 ~ben nothing wrong with that haha
+2019-08-14 11:56:36 lytedev I'll bet there's a way to alias common commands to noops in weechat...
+2019-08-14 11:56:57 ~ben lol i'm sure there is :P
+2019-08-14 11:57:03 ~ben but what if you actually want to send that
+2019-08-14 11:58:08 lytedev add a space? /shrug
+2019-08-14 12:00:45 ~ben here take this ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
+2019-08-14 12:01:18 lytedev $(curl shrug.io)
+2019-08-14 12:02:54 ~ben /exec -o curl -s shrug.io
+2019-08-14 12:02:57 ~ben ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
+2019-08-14 12:03:03 ~ben lol awesome
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+2019-08-14 12:03:39 lytedev =O it's beautiful
+2019-08-14 12:06:07 ~ben :)
+2019-08-14 12:06:22 ~ben lots of silly tricks with /exec -o
+2019-08-14 12:06:34 ~ben helo
+2019-08-14 12:06:49 lytedev ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
+2019-08-14 12:06:58 lytedev ooh la la
+2019-08-14 12:07:01 lytedev indeed
+2019-08-14 12:07:29 lytedev I assume if I spam a bunch of lines, no matter how neat, that's not a good idea, yeah?
+2019-08-14 12:08:22 lytedev -> /exec -o curl -s wttr.in
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+2019-08-14 13:47:49 ~ben lol yea that would probably be a lot of lines ;)
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+2019-08-14 14:49:40 level3 new blog post friends :)
+2019-08-14 14:50:13 level3 here is the link https://level3.tildeteam.org/blog/food-and-consumer-expectation-.html
+2019-08-14 14:50:15 BitBot [Title] Food and consumer expectation - https://ttm.sh/T0
+2019-08-14 14:50:28 level3 don't forge to like and subscribe (:
+2019-08-14 14:52:02 ~ben btw
+2019-08-14 14:52:04 ~ben https://tilde.team/~level3/blog/use-the-flag-friend.html
+2019-08-14 14:52:05 BitBot [Title] Use the flag, friend - https://ttm.sh/TS
+2019-08-14 14:52:08 ~ben you can set this in ~/.ssh/config
+2019-08-14 14:52:19 ~ben IdentityFile path/to/key
+2019-08-14 14:52:24 ~ben see man ssh_config
+2019-08-14 14:53:11 level3 ah thanks
+2019-08-14 14:53:32 ~ben so i have something like this in my ~/.ssh/config
+2019-08-14 14:53:36 ~ben Host tilde
+2019-08-14 14:53:39 ~ben Hostname ssh.tilde.team
+2019-08-14 14:53:42 ~ben Port 443
+2019-08-14 14:53:56 ~ben LocalForward localhost:6667 localhost:6667
+2019-08-14 14:53:58 ~ben etc
+2019-08-14 14:54:03 ~ben then you just ssh tilde
+2019-08-14 14:54:07 ~ben (or mosh)
+2019-08-14 14:54:18 level3 can't into mosh because windows :(
+2019-08-14 14:54:29 ~ben sure you can
+2019-08-14 14:54:38 ~ben cygwin msys2 or the chrome browser extension
+2019-08-14 14:54:47 ~ben wsl too
+2019-08-14 14:55:25 level3 ok I will chrome.
+2019-08-14 14:56:31 level3 PEM forma?
+2019-08-14 14:56:35 ~ben wsl is pretty nice nowadays
+2019-08-14 14:56:37 ~ben ?
+2019-08-14 14:56:46 level3 PEM format for key?
+2019-08-14 14:57:08 ~ben idk
+2019-08-14 15:00:32 level3 btw would be nice to have a break word in blog css by default
+2019-08-14 15:03:57 ~ben break word?
+2019-08-14 15:04:30 level3 so the public key looks ok (:
+2019-08-14 15:05:03 ~ben i use hacker.css on my blog https://ben.ttm.sh/blog/
+2019-08-14 15:05:04 BitBot [Title] blog // ~ben - https://ttm.sh/TI
+2019-08-14 15:06:34 level3 something like break-all https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/word-break
+2019-08-14 15:06:36 BitBot [Title] word-break - CSS: Cascading Style Sheets | MDN - https://ttm.sh/Tn
+2019-08-14 15:06:41 level3 nice theme btw :D
+2019-08-14 15:07:34 ~ben https://tilde.team/css/
+2019-08-14 15:07:35 BitBot [Title] tilde theme - https://ttm.sh/TT
+2019-08-14 15:08:25 ~ben more info here: https://tildegit.org/team/site/src/branch/master/css
+2019-08-14 15:08:26 BitBot [Title] team/site: site, wiki, and css theme - site - tildegit - https://ttm.sh/Fd
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+2019-08-14 18:43:58 reddd anyone play halo online
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+2019-08-15 11:31:02 @cmccabe gorgle morging
+2019-08-15 11:31:32 ~ben gorngnlws monigin
+2019-08-15 11:59:01 login what's this meme?
+2019-08-15 12:10:20 @cmccabe you'll have to upload a picture of it. i can't see what you're pointing to.
+2019-08-15 12:11:22 login gorgle morging and gorngnlws monigin
+2019-08-15 12:17:44 @cmccabe gorgle morging to you too
+2019-08-15 12:18:14 @cmccabe although i think it's afternorkno now
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+2019-08-15 18:14:32 ~ben lol definitely anfternonno
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+2019-08-16 09:44:43 lickthecheese hello
+2019-08-16 09:48:37 l4p1n hellu
+2019-08-16 10:04:51 tiwesdaeg helly?
+2019-08-16 10:12:07 login hello
+2019-08-16 10:19:26 @cmccabe helicopter
+2019-08-16 10:19:31 lytedev help.
+2019-08-16 10:19:56 @cmccabe ben, what was the command for logging new installs? i want to record logwatch
+2019-08-16 10:34:02 robdrake hello #team
+2019-08-16 10:46:51 lytedev hello @robdrake
+2019-08-16 10:49:10 ~ben logging new installs?
+2019-08-16 10:49:51 ~ben cmccabe: probably script(1)
+2019-08-16 10:54:06 robdrake I get flooded w/ BS on trying to ddg how to let my users set up their own gopherhole, anyone know a website with a good tutorial
+2019-08-16 10:54:07 robdrake ?
+2019-08-16 10:55:00 robdrake also trying to help an old minecraft friend to get started with IRC
+2019-08-16 10:55:52 ~ben robdrake: it's already set up on theasylum
+2019-08-16 10:56:08 ~ben gopher://theasylum.team/1/~ben
+2019-08-16 10:58:05 robdrake ok, thanks
+2019-08-16 10:58:24 ~ben fossy set that up
+2019-08-16 10:59:48 robdrake yeah I know
+2019-08-16 11:00:08 robdrake I just need to learn how to do a decent gophermap
+2019-08-16 11:01:10 robdrake something is still messed up, do gopher gopher://theasylum.team
+2019-08-16 11:01:55 ~ben robdrake: https://github.com/gophernicus/gophernicus/blob/master/README.Gophermap
+2019-08-16 11:01:59 BitBot [Title] gophernicus/README.Gophermap at master · gophernicus/gophernicus · GitHub - https://ttm.sh/Tf
+2019-08-16 11:02:10 robdrake hostname still set to theasylum, not theasylum.team or theasylum.tilde.team
+2019-08-16 11:02:27 erxeto ben-quick-figers heheheh I was going to paste the same link.
+2019-08-16 11:05:21 @cmccabe ben, some kind of audit command.
+2019-08-16 11:06:48 robdrake fixed
+2019-08-16 11:06:58 robdrake myself no less
+2019-08-16 11:07:06 ~ben cmccabe: i'm not sure
+2019-08-16 11:29:00 level3 how're you?
+2019-08-16 11:30:54 ~ben good, you ?
+2019-08-16 11:31:21 level3 I'm doing alright.
+2019-08-16 11:32:01 level3 I saw a piece of code and thought heh how horrible I can do much better and I wrote something and it was so much worse... humble pie sigh
+2019-08-16 11:35:35 ~ben nice
+2019-08-16 11:35:39 ~ben tfw
+2019-08-16 11:39:01 login tfw = ?
+2019-08-16 11:39:14 login the f___ when?
+2019-08-16 11:39:24 tomasino that fart wind
+2019-08-16 11:39:31 login exactly
+2019-08-16 11:39:38 ~ben that feeling when
+2019-08-16 11:39:42 ~ben same thing though ;)
+2019-08-16 11:40:15 level3 (:
+2019-08-16 12:31:21 @cmccabe taco friday woo!
+2019-08-16 12:31:41 ~ben nice :)
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+2019-08-16 13:08:05 truth hi team
+2019-08-16 13:08:19 ~ben hi hi
+2019-08-16 13:12:34 login hi truth
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+2019-08-16 22:55:24 radiobot praetor is now online playing (praetor) now playing: Loyalty Freak Music - Don't listen to the words they say ~~ 1 listeners! tune in now here: https://tilderadio.org/listen
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+2019-08-17 08:13:31 level3 !nowplaying
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+2019-08-03 11:14:14 -- Topic for #vim is "vim is for lovers! <3"
+2019-08-03 11:14:14 -- Topic set by biglysmalls (littlebigly@127.0.0.1) on Thu, 10 Jan 2019 19:18:04
+2019-08-03 11:14:14 -- Channel #vim: 12 nicks (0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 12 normals)
+2019-08-03 11:14:16 -- Channel created on Fri, 28 Dec 2018 12:46:44
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+#
+# weechat -- perl.conf
+#
+# WARNING: It is NOT recommended to edit this file by hand,
+# especially if WeeChat is running.
+#
+# Use /set or similar command to change settings in WeeChat.
+#
+# For more info, see: https://weechat.org/doc/quickstart
+#
+
+[look]
+check_license = off
+eval_keep_context = on
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+#
+# highmon.pl - Highlight Monitoring for weechat 0.3.0
+# Version 2.5
+#
+# Add 'Highlight Monitor' buffer/bar to log all highlights in one spot
+#
+# Usage:
+# /highmon [help] | [monitor [channel [server]]] | [clean default|orphan|all] | clearbar
+# Command wrapper for highmon commands
+#
+# /highmon clean default|orphan|all will clean the config section of default 'on' entries,
+# channels you are no longer joined, or both
+#
+# /highmon clearbar will clear the contents of highmon's bar output
+#
+# /highmon monitor [channel] [server] is used to toggle a highlight monitoring on and off, this
+# can be used in the channel buffer for the channel you wish to toggle, or be given
+# with arguments e.g. /highmon monitor #weechat freenode
+#
+# /set plugins.var.perl.highmon.alignment
+# The config setting "alignment" can be changed to;
+# "channel", "schannel", "nchannel", "channel,nick", "schannel,nick", "nchannel,nick"
+# to change how the monitor appears
+# The 'channel' value will show: "#weechat"
+# The 'schannel' value will show: "6"
+# The 'nchannel' value will show: "6:#weechat"
+#
+# /set plugins.var.perl.highmon.short_names
+# Setting this to 'on' will trim the network name from highmon, ala buffers.pl
+#
+# /set plugins.var.perl.highmon.merge_private
+# Setting this to 'on' will merge private messages to highmon's display
+#
+# /set plugins.var.perl.highmon.color_buf
+# This turns colored buffer names on or off, you can also set a single fixed color by using a weechat color name.
+# This *must* be a valid color name, or weechat will likely do unexpected things :)
+#
+# /set plugins.var.perl.highmon.hotlist_show
+# Setting this to 'on' will let the highmon buffer appear in hotlists
+# (status bar/buffer.pl)
+#
+# /set plugins.var.perl.highmon.away_only
+# Setting this to 'on' will only put messages in the highmon buffer when
+# you set your status to away
+#
+# /set plugins.var.perl.highmon.logging
+# Toggles logging status for highmon buffer (default: off)
+#
+# /set plugins.var.perl.highmon.output
+# Changes where output method of highmon; takes either "bar" or "buffer" (default; buffer)
+# /set plugins.var.perl.highmon.bar_lines
+# Changes the amount of lines the output bar will hold.
+# (Only appears once output has been set to bar, defaults to 10)
+# /set plugins.var.perl.highmon.bar_scrolldown
+# Toggles the bar scrolling at the bottom when new highlights are received
+# (Only appears once output has been set to bar, defaults to off)
+#
+# /set plugins.var.perl.highmon.nick_prefix
+# /set plugins.var.perl.highmon.nick_suffix
+# Sets the prefix and suffix chars in the highmon buffer
+# (Defaults to <> if nothing set, and blank if there is)
+#
+# servername.#channel
+# servername is the internal name for the server (set when you use /server add)
+# #channel is the channel name, (where # is whatever channel type that channel happens to be)
+#
+# Optional, set up tweaks; Hide the status and input lines on highmon
+#
+# /set weechat.bar.status.conditions "${window.buffer.full_name} != perl.highmon"
+# /set weechat.bar.input.conditions "${window.buffer.full_name} != perl.highmon"
+#
+
+# Bugs and feature requests at: https://github.com/KenjiE20/highmon
+
+# History:
+# 2014-08-16, KenjiE20 :
+# v2.5: -add: clearbar command to clear bar output
+# -add: firstrun output prompt to check the help text for set up hints as they were being missed
+# and update hint for conditions to use eval
+# -change: Make all outputs use the date callback for more accurate timestamps (thanks Germainz)
+# 2013-12-04, KenjiE20 :
+# v2.4: -add: Support for eval style colour codes in time format used for bar output
+# 2013-10-22, KenjiE20 :
+# v2.3.3.2: -fix: Typo in fix command
+# 2013-10-10, KenjiE20 :
+# v2.3.3.1: -fix: Typo in closed buffer warning
+# 2013-10-07, KenjiE20 :
+# v2.3.3: -add: Warning and fixer for accidental buffer closes
+# 2013-01-15, KenjiE20 :
+# v2.3.2: -fix: Let bar output use the string set in weechat's config option
+# -add: github info
+# 2012-04-15, KenjiE20 :
+# v2.3.1: -fix: Colour tags in bar timestamp string
+# 2012-02-28, KenjiE20 :
+# v2.3: -feature: Added merge_private option to display private messages (default: off)
+# -fix: Channel name colours now show correctly when set to on
+# 2011-08-07, Sitaktif :
+# v2.2.1: -feature: Add "bar_scrolldown" option to have the bar display the latest hl at anytime
+# -fix: Set up bar-specific config at startup if 'output' is already configured as 'bar'
+# 2010-12-22, KenjiE20 :
+# v2.2: -change: Use API instead of config to find channel colours, ready for 0.3.4 and 256 colours
+# 2010-12-13, idl0r & KenjiE20 :
+# v2.1.3: -fix: perl errors caused by bar line counter
+# -fix: Add command list to inbuilt help
+# 2010-09-30, KenjiE20 :
+# v2.1.2: -fix: logging config was not correctly toggling back on (thanks to sleo for noticing)
+# -version sync w/ chanmon
+# 2010-08-27, KenjiE20 :
+# v2.1: -feature: Add 'nchannel' option to alignment to display buffer and name
+# 2010-04-25, KenjiE20 :
+# v2.0: Release as version 2.0
+# 2010-04-24, KenjiE20 :
+# v1.9: Rewrite for v2.0
+# Bring feature set in line with chanmon 2.0
+# -code change: Made more subs to shrink the code down in places
+# -fix: Stop highmon attempting to double load/hook
+# -fix: Add version dependant check for away status
+# 2010-01-25, KenjiE20 :
+# v1.7: -fixture: Let highmon be aware of nick_prefix/suffix
+# and allow custom prefix/suffix for chanmon buffer
+# (Defaults to <> if nothing set, and blank if there is)
+# (Thanks to m4v for these)
+# 2009-09-07, KenjiE20 :
+# v1.6: -feature: colored buffer names
+# -change: version sync with chanmon
+# 2009-09-05, KenjiE20 :
+# v1.2: -fix: disable buffer highlight
+# 2009-09-02, KenjiE20 :
+# v.1.1.1 -change: Stop unsightly text block on '/help'
+# 2009-08-10, KenjiE20 :
+# v1.1: In-client help added
+# 2009-08-02, KenjiE20 :
+# v1.0: Initial Public Release
+
+# Copyright (c) 2009 by KenjiE20
+#
+# This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify
+# it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by
+# the Free Software Foundation; either version 3 of the License, or
+# (at your option) any later version.
+#
+# This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
+# but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
+# MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the
+# GNU General Public License for more details.
+#
+# You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
+# along with this program. If not, see .
+#
+
+@bar_lines = ();
+@bar_lines_time = ();
+# Replicate info earlier for in-client help
+
+$highmonhelp = weechat::color("bold")."/highmon [help] | [monitor [channel [server]]] | [clean default|orphan|all] | clearbar".weechat::color("-bold")."
+ Command wrapper for highmon commands
+
+".weechat::color("bold")."/highmon clean default|orphan|all".weechat::color("-bold")." will clean the config section of default 'on' entries, channels you are no longer joined, or both
+
+".weechat::color("bold")."/highmon clearbar".weechat::color("-bold")." will clear the contents of highmon's bar output
+
+".weechat::color("bold")."/highmon monitor [channel] [server]".weechat::color("-bold")." is used to toggle a highlight monitoring on and off, this can be used in the channel buffer for the channel you wish to toggle, or be given with arguments e.g. /highmon monitor #weechat freenode
+
+".weechat::color("bold")."/set plugins.var.perl.highmon.alignment".weechat::color("-bold")."
+ The config setting \"alignment\" can be changed to;
+ \"channel\", \"schannel\", \"nchannel\", \"channel,nick\", \"schannel,nick\", \"nchannel,nick\"
+ to change how the monitor appears
+ The 'channel' value will show: \"#weechat\"
+ The 'schannel' value will show: \"6\"
+ The 'nchannel' value will show: \"6:#weechat\"
+
+".weechat::color("bold")."/set plugins.var.perl.highmon.short_names".weechat::color("-bold")."
+ Setting this to 'on' will trim the network name from highmon, ala buffers.pl
+
+".weechat::color("bold")."/set plugins.var.perl.highmon.merge_private".weechat::color("-bold")."
+ Setting this to 'on' will merge private messages to highmon's display
+
+".weechat::color("bold")."/set plugins.var.perl.highmon.color_buf".weechat::color("-bold")."
+ This turns colored buffer names on or off, you can also set a single fixed color by using a weechat color name.
+ This ".weechat::color("bold")."must".weechat::color("-bold")." be a valid color name, or weechat will likely do unexpected things :)
+
+".weechat::color("bold")."/set plugins.var.perl.highmon.hotlist_show".weechat::color("-bold")."
+Setting this to 'on' will let the highmon buffer appear in hotlists (status bar/buffer.pl)
+
+".weechat::color("bold")."/set plugins.var.perl.highmon.away_only".weechat::color("-bold")."
+Setting this to 'on' will only put messages in the highmon buffer when you set your status to away
+
+".weechat::color("bold")."/set plugins.var.perl.highmon.logging".weechat::color("-bold")."
+ Toggles logging status for highmon buffer (default: off)
+
+".weechat::color("bold")."/set plugins.var.perl.highmon.output".weechat::color("-bold")."
+ Changes where output method of highmon; takes either \"bar\" or \"buffer\" (default; buffer)
+".weechat::color("bold")."/set plugins.var.perl.highmon.bar_lines".weechat::color("-bold")."
+ Changes the amount of lines the output bar will hold.
+ (Only appears once output has been set to bar, defaults to 10)
+".weechat::color("bold")."/set plugins.var.perl.highmon.bar_scrolldown".weechat::color("-bold")."
+ Toggles the bar scrolling at the bottom when new highlights are received
+ (Only appears once output has been set to bar, defaults to off)
+
+".weechat::color("bold")."/set plugins.var.perl.highmon.nick_prefix".weechat::color("-bold")."
+".weechat::color("bold")."/set plugins.var.perl.highmon.nick_suffix".weechat::color("-bold")."
+ Sets the prefix and suffix chars in the highmon buffer
+ (Defaults to <> if nothing set, and blank if there is)
+
+".weechat::color("bold")."servername.#channel".weechat::color("-bold")."
+ servername is the internal name for the server (set when you use /server add)
+ #channel is the channel name, (where # is whatever channel type that channel happens to be)
+
+".weechat::color("bold")."Optional, set up tweaks;".weechat::color("-bold")." Hide the status and input lines on highmon
+
+".weechat::color("bold")."/set weechat.bar.status.conditions \"\${window.buffer.full_name} != perl.highmon\"".weechat::color("-bold")."
+".weechat::color("bold")."/set weechat.bar.input.conditions \"\${window.buffer.full_name} != perl.highmon\"".weechat::color("-bold");
+# Print verbose help
+sub print_help
+{
+ weechat::print("", "\t".weechat::color("bold")."Highmon Help".weechat::color("-bold")."\n\n");
+ weechat::print("", "\t".$highmonhelp);
+ return weechat::WEECHAT_RC_OK;
+}
+
+# Bar item build
+sub highmon_bar_build
+{
+ # Get max lines
+ $max_lines = weechat::config_get_plugin("bar_lines");
+ $max_lines = $max_lines ? $max_lines : 10;
+ $str = '';
+ $align_num = 0;
+ $count = 0;
+ # Keep lines within max
+ while ($#bar_lines > $max_lines)
+ {
+ shift(@bar_lines);
+ shift(@bar_lines_time);
+ }
+ # So long as we have some lines, build a string
+ if (@bar_lines)
+ {
+ # Build loop
+ $sep = " ".weechat::config_string(weechat::config_get("weechat.look.prefix_suffix"))." ";
+ foreach(@bar_lines)
+ {
+ # Find max align needed
+ $prefix_num = (index(weechat::string_remove_color($_, ""), $sep));
+ $align_num = $prefix_num if ($prefix_num > $align_num);
+ }
+ foreach(@bar_lines)
+ {
+ # Get align for this line
+ $prefix_num = (index(weechat::string_remove_color($_, ""), $sep));
+
+ # Make string
+ $str = $str.$bar_lines_time[$count]." ".(" " x ($align_num - $prefix_num)).$_."\n";
+ # Increment count for sync with time list
+ $count++;
+ }
+ }
+ return $str;
+}
+
+# Make a new bar
+sub highmon_bar_open
+{
+ # Make the bar item
+ weechat::bar_item_new("highmon", "highmon_bar_build", "");
+
+ $highmon_bar = weechat::bar_new ("highmon", "off", 100, "root", "", "bottom", "vertical", "vertical", 0, 0, "default", "cyan", "default", "on", "highmon");
+
+ return weechat::WEECHAT_RC_OK;
+}
+# Close bar
+sub highmon_bar_close
+{
+ # Find if bar exists
+ $highmon_bar = weechat::bar_search("highmon");
+ # If is does, close it
+ if ($highmon_bar ne "")
+ {
+ weechat::bar_remove($highmon_bar);
+ }
+
+ # Find if bar item exists
+ $highmon_bar_item = weechat::bar_item_search("highmon_bar");
+ # If is does, close it
+ if ($highmon_bar_item ne "")
+ {
+ weechat::bar_remove($highmon_bar_item);
+ }
+
+ @bar_lines = ();
+ return weechat::WEECHAT_RC_OK;
+}
+
+# Make a new buffer
+sub highmon_buffer_open
+{
+ # Search for pre-existing buffer
+ $highmon_buffer = weechat::buffer_search("perl", "highmon");
+
+ # Make a new buffer
+ if ($highmon_buffer eq "")
+ {
+ $highmon_buffer = weechat::buffer_new("highmon", "highmon_buffer_input", "", "highmon_buffer_close", "");
+ }
+
+ # Turn off notify, highlights
+ if ($highmon_buffer ne "")
+ {
+ if (weechat::config_get_plugin("hotlist_show" eq "off"))
+ {
+ weechat::buffer_set($highmon_buffer, "notify", "0");
+ }
+ weechat::buffer_set($highmon_buffer, "highlight_words", "-");
+ weechat::buffer_set($highmon_buffer, "title", "Highlight Monitor");
+ # Set no_log
+ if (weechat::config_get_plugin("logging") eq "off")
+ {
+ weechat::buffer_set($highmon_buffer, "localvar_set_no_log", "1");
+ }
+ }
+ return weechat::WEECHAT_RC_OK;
+}
+# Buffer input has no action
+sub highmon_buffer_input
+{
+ return weechat::WEECHAT_RC_OK;
+}
+# Close up
+sub highmon_buffer_close
+{
+ $highmon_buffer = "";
+ # If user hasn't changed output style warn user
+ if (weechat::config_get_plugin("output") eq "buffer")
+ {
+ weechat::print("", "\tHighmon buffer has been closed but output is still set to buffer, unusual results may occur. To recreate the buffer use ".weechat::color("bold")."/highmon fix".weechat::color("-bold"));
+ }
+ return weechat::WEECHAT_RC_OK;
+}
+
+# Highmon command wrapper
+sub highmon_command_cb
+{
+ $data = $_[0];
+ $buffer = $_[1];
+ $args = $_[2];
+ my $cmd = '';
+ my $arg = '';
+
+ if ($args ne "")
+ {
+ # Split argument up
+ @arg_array = split(/ /,$args);
+ # Take first as command
+ $cmd = shift(@arg_array);
+ # Rebuild string to pass to subs
+ if (@arg_array)
+ {
+ $arg = join(" ", @arg_array);
+ }
+ }
+
+ # Help command
+ if ($cmd eq "" || $cmd eq "help")
+ {
+ print_help();
+ }
+ # /monitor command
+ elsif ($cmd eq "monitor")
+ {
+ highmon_toggle($data, $buffer, $arg);
+ }
+ # /highclean command
+ elsif ($cmd eq "clean")
+ {
+ highmon_config_clean($data, $buffer, $arg);
+ }
+ # clearbar command
+ elsif ($cmd eq "clearbar")
+ {
+ if (weechat::config_get_plugin("output") eq "bar")
+ {
+ @bar_lines = ();
+ weechat::bar_item_update("highmon");
+ }
+ }
+ # Fix closed buffer
+ elsif ($cmd eq "fix")
+ {
+ if (weechat::config_get_plugin("output") eq "buffer" && $highmon_buffer eq "")
+ {
+ highmon_buffer_open();
+ }
+ }
+ return weechat::WEECHAT_RC_OK;
+}
+
+# Clean up config entries
+sub highmon_config_clean
+{
+ $data = $_[0];
+ $buffer = $_[1];
+ $args = $_[2];
+
+ # Don't do anything if bad option given
+ if ($args ne "default" && $args ne "orphan" && $args ne "all")
+ {
+ weechat::print("", "\thighmon.pl: Unknown option");
+ return weechat::WEECHAT_RC_OK;
+ }
+
+ @chans = ();
+ # Load an infolist of highmon options
+ $infolist = weechat::infolist_get("option", "", "*highmon*");
+ while (weechat::infolist_next($infolist))
+ {
+ $name = weechat::infolist_string($infolist, "option_name");
+ $name =~ s/perl\.highmon\.(\w*)\.([#&\+!])(.*)/$1.$2$3/;
+ if ($name =~ /^(.*)\.([#&\+!])(.*)$/)
+ {
+ $action = 0;
+ # Clean up all 'on's
+ if ($args eq "default" || $args eq "all")
+ {
+ # If value in config is "on"
+ if (weechat::config_get_plugin($name) eq "on")
+ {
+ # Unset and if successful flag as changed
+ $rc = weechat::config_unset_plugin($name);
+ if ($rc eq weechat::WEECHAT_CONFIG_OPTION_UNSET_OK_REMOVED)
+ {
+ $action = 1;
+ }
+ }
+ }
+ # Clean non joined
+ if ($args eq "orphan" || $args eq "all")
+ {
+ # If we can't find the buffer for this entry
+ if (weechat::buffer_search("irc", $name) eq "")
+ {
+ # Unset and if successful flag as changed
+ $rc = weechat::config_unset_plugin($name);
+ if ($rc eq weechat::WEECHAT_CONFIG_OPTION_UNSET_OK_REMOVED)
+ {
+ $action = 1;
+ }
+ }
+ }
+ # Add changed entry names to list
+ push (@chans, $name) if ($action);
+ }
+ }
+ weechat::infolist_free($infolist);
+ # If channels were cleaned from config
+ if (@chans)
+ {
+ # If only one entry
+ if (@chans == 1)
+ {
+ $str = "\thighmon.pl: Cleaned ".@chans." entry from the config:";
+ }
+ else
+ {
+ $str = "\thighmon.pl: Cleaned ".@chans." entries from the config:";
+ }
+ # Build a list of channels
+ foreach(@chans)
+ {
+ $str = $str." ".$_;
+ }
+ # Print what happened
+ weechat::print("",$str);
+ }
+ # Config seemed to be clean
+ else
+ {
+ weechat::print("", "\thighmon.pl: No entries removed");
+ }
+ return weechat::WEECHAT_RC_OK;
+}
+
+# Check config elements
+sub highmon_config_init
+{
+ # First run default
+ if (!(weechat::config_is_set_plugin ("first_run")))
+ {
+ if (weechat::config_get_plugin("first_run") ne "true")
+ {
+ weechat::print("", "\tThis appears to be the first time highmon has been run. For help and common set up hints see /highmon help");
+ weechat::config_set_plugin("first_run", "true");
+ }
+ }
+ # Alignment default
+ if (!(weechat::config_is_set_plugin ("alignment")))
+ {
+ weechat::config_set_plugin("alignment", "channel");
+ }
+ if (weechat::config_get_plugin("alignment") eq "")
+ {
+ weechat::config_set_plugin("alignment", "none");
+ }
+
+ # Short name default
+ if (!(weechat::config_is_set_plugin ("short_names")))
+ {
+ weechat::config_set_plugin("short_names", "off");
+ }
+
+ # Coloured names default
+ if (!(weechat::config_is_set_plugin ("color_buf")))
+ {
+ weechat::config_set_plugin("color_buf", "on");
+ }
+
+ # Hotlist show default
+ if (!(weechat::config_is_set_plugin ("hotlist_show")))
+ {
+ weechat::config_set_plugin("hotlist_show", "off");
+ }
+
+ # Away only default
+ if (!(weechat::config_is_set_plugin ("away_only")))
+ {
+ weechat::config_set_plugin("away_only", "off");
+ }
+
+ # highmon log default
+ if (!(weechat::config_is_set_plugin ("logging")))
+ {
+ weechat::config_set_plugin("logging", "off");
+ }
+
+ # Output default
+ if (!(weechat::config_is_set_plugin ("output")))
+ {
+ weechat::config_set_plugin("output", "buffer");
+ }
+
+ # Private message merging
+ if (!(weechat::config_is_set_plugin ("merge_private")))
+ {
+ weechat::config_set_plugin("merge_private", "off");
+ }
+
+ # Set bar config in case output was set to "bar" before even changing the setting
+ if (weechat::config_get_plugin("output") eq "bar")
+ {
+ # Output bar lines default
+ if (!(weechat::config_is_set_plugin ("bar_lines")))
+ {
+ weechat::config_set_plugin("bar_lines", "10");
+ }
+ if (!(weechat::config_is_set_plugin ("bar_scrolldown")))
+ {
+ weechat::config_set_plugin("bar_scrolldown", "off");
+ }
+ }
+
+ # Check for exisiting prefix/suffix chars, and setup accordingly
+ $prefix = weechat::config_get("irc.look.nick_prefix");
+ $prefix = weechat::config_string($prefix);
+ $suffix = weechat::config_get("irc.look.nick_suffix");
+ $suffix = weechat::config_string($suffix);
+
+ if (!(weechat::config_is_set_plugin("nick_prefix")))
+ {
+ if ($prefix eq "" && $suffix eq "")
+ {
+ weechat::config_set_plugin("nick_prefix", "<");
+ }
+ else
+ {
+ weechat::config_set_plugin("nick_prefix", "");
+ }
+ }
+
+ if (!(weechat::config_is_set_plugin("nick_suffix")))
+ {
+ if ($prefix eq "" && $suffix eq "")
+ {
+ weechat::config_set_plugin("nick_suffix", ">");
+ }
+ else
+ {
+ weechat::config_set_plugin("nick_suffix", "");
+ }
+ }
+}
+
+# Get config updates
+sub highmon_config_cb
+{
+ $point = $_[0];
+ $name = $_[1];
+ $value = $_[2];
+
+ $name =~ s/^plugins\.var\.perl\.highmon\.//;
+
+ # Set logging on buffer
+ if ($name eq "logging")
+ {
+ # Search for pre-existing buffer
+ $highmon_buffer = weechat::buffer_search("perl", "highmon");
+ if ($value eq "off")
+ {
+ weechat::buffer_set($highmon_buffer, "localvar_set_no_log", "1");
+ }
+ else
+ {
+ weechat::buffer_set($highmon_buffer, "localvar_del_no_log", "");
+ }
+ }
+ # Output changer
+ elsif ($name eq "output")
+ {
+ if ($value eq "bar")
+ {
+ # Search for pre-existing buffer
+ $highmon_buffer = weechat::buffer_search("perl", "highmon");
+ # Close if it exists
+ if ($highmon_buffer ne "")
+ {
+ weechat::buffer_close($highmon_buffer)
+ }
+
+ # Output bar lines default
+ if (!(weechat::config_is_set_plugin ("bar_lines")))
+ {
+ weechat::config_set_plugin("bar_lines", "10");
+ }
+ if (!(weechat::config_is_set_plugin ("bar_scrolldown")))
+ {
+ weechat::config_set_plugin("bar_scrolldown", "off");
+ }
+ # Make a bar if doesn't exist
+ highmon_bar_open();
+ }
+ elsif ($value eq "buffer")
+ {
+ # If a bar exists, close it
+ highmon_bar_close();
+ # Open buffer
+ highmon_buffer_open();
+ }
+
+ }
+ # Change if hotlist config changes
+ elsif ($name eq "hotlist_show")
+ {
+ # Search for pre-existing buffer
+ $highmon_buffer = weechat::buffer_search("perl", "highmon");
+ if ($value eq "off" && $highmon_buffer)
+ {
+ weechat::buffer_set($highmon_buffer, "notify", "0");
+ }
+ elsif ($value ne "off" && $highmon_buffer)
+ {
+ weechat::buffer_set($highmon_buffer, "notify", "3");
+ }
+ }
+ elsif ($name eq "weechat.look.prefix_suffix")
+ {
+ if (weechat::config_get_plugin("output") eq "bar")
+ {
+ @bar_lines = ();
+ weechat::print("", "\thighmon: weechat.look.prefix_suffix changed, clearing highmon bar");
+ weechat::bar_item_update("highmon");
+ }
+ }
+ return weechat::WEECHAT_RC_OK;
+}
+
+# Set up weechat hooks / commands
+sub highmon_hook
+{
+ weechat::hook_print("", "", "", 0, "highmon_new_message", "");
+ weechat::hook_command("highclean", "Highmon config clean up", "default|orphan|all", " default: Cleans all config entries with the default \"on\" value\n orphan: Cleans all config entries for channels you aren't currently joined\n all: Does both defaults and orphan", "default|orphan|all", "highmon_config_clean", "");
+
+ weechat::hook_command("highmon", "Highmon help", "[help] | [monitor [channel [server]]] | [clean default|orphan|all] | clearbar", " help: Print help on config options for highmon\n monitor: Toggles monitoring for a channel\n clean: Highmon config clean up (/highclean)\nclearbar: Clear Highmon bar", "help || monitor %(irc_channels) %(irc_servers) || clean default|orphan|all || clearbar", "highmon_command_cb", "");
+
+ weechat::hook_config("plugins.var.perl.highmon.*", "highmon_config_cb", "");
+ weechat::hook_config("weechat.look.prefix_suffix", "highmon_config_cb", "");
+}
+
+# Main body, Callback for hook_print
+sub highmon_new_message
+{
+ my $net = "";
+ my $chan = "";
+ my $nick = "";
+ my $outstr = "";
+ my $window_displayed = "";
+ my $dyncheck = "0";
+
+# DEBUG point
+# $string = "\t"."0: ".$_[0]." 1: ".$_[1]." 2: ".$_[2]." 3: ".$_[3]." 4: ".$_[4]." 5: ".$_[5]." 6: ".$_[6]." 7: ".$_[7];
+# weechat::print("", "\t".$string);
+
+ $cb_datap = $_[0];
+ $cb_bufferp = $_[1];
+ $cb_date = $_[2];
+ $cb_tags = $_[3];
+ $cb_disp = $_[4];
+ $cb_high = $_[5];
+ $cb_prefix = $_[6];
+ $cb_msg = $_[7];
+
+ # Only work on highlighted messages or private message when enabled
+ if ($cb_high == "1" || (weechat::config_get_plugin("merge_private") eq "on" && $cb_tags =~ /notify_private/))
+ {
+ # Pre bug #29618 (0.3.3) away detect
+ if (weechat::info_get("version_number", "") <= 197120)
+ {
+ $away = '';
+ # Get infolist for this server
+ $infolist = weechat::infolist_get("irc_server", "", weechat::buffer_get_string($cb_bufferp, "localvar_server"));
+ while (weechat::infolist_next($infolist))
+ {
+ # Get away message is is_away is on
+ $away = weechat::infolist_string($infolist, "away_message") if (weechat::infolist_integer($infolist, "is_away"));
+ }
+ weechat::infolist_free($infolist);
+ }
+ # Post bug #29618 fix
+ else
+ {
+ $away = weechat::buffer_get_string($cb_bufferp, "localvar_away");
+ }
+ if (weechat::config_get_plugin("away_only") ne "on" || ($away ne ""))
+ {
+ # Check buffer name is an IRC channel
+ $bufname = weechat::buffer_get_string($cb_bufferp, 'name');
+ if ($bufname =~ /(.*)\.([#&\+!])(.*)/)
+ {
+ # Are we running on this channel
+ if (weechat::config_get_plugin($bufname) ne "off" && $cb_disp eq "1")
+ {
+ # Format nick
+ # Line isn't action or topic notify
+ if (!($cb_tags =~ /irc_action/) && !($cb_tags =~ /irc_topic/))
+ {
+ # Strip nick colour
+ $uncolnick = weechat::string_remove_color($cb_prefix, "");
+ # Format nick
+ $nick = " ".weechat::config_get_plugin("nick_prefix").weechat::color("chat_highlight").$uncolnick.weechat::color("reset").weechat::config_get_plugin("nick_suffix");
+ }
+ # Topic line
+ elsif ($cb_tags =~ /irc_topic/)
+ {
+ $nick = " ".$cb_prefix.weechat::color("reset");
+ }
+ # Action line
+ else
+ {
+ $uncolnick = weechat::string_remove_color($cb_prefix, "");
+ $nick = weechat::color("chat_highlight").$uncolnick.weechat::color("reset");
+ }
+ # Send to output
+ highmon_print ($cb_msg, $cb_bufferp, $nick, $cb_date, $cb_tags);
+ }
+ }
+ # Or is private message
+ elsif (weechat::config_get_plugin("merge_private") eq "on" && $cb_tags =~ /notify_private/)
+ {
+ # Strip nick colour
+ $uncolnick = weechat::buffer_get_string($cb_bufferp, 'short_name');
+ # Format nick
+ $nick = " ".weechat::config_get_plugin("nick_prefix").weechat::color("chat_highlight").$uncolnick.weechat::color("reset").weechat::config_get_plugin("nick_suffix");
+ #Send to output
+ highmon_print ($cb_msg, $cb_bufferp, $nick, $cb_date, $cb_tags);
+ }
+ }
+ }
+ return weechat::WEECHAT_RC_OK;
+}
+
+# Output formatter and printer takes (msg bufpointer nick)
+sub highmon_print
+{
+ $cb_msg = $_[0];
+ my $cb_bufferp = $_[1] if ($_[1]);
+ my $nick = $_[2] if ($_[2]);
+ my $cb_date = $_[3] if ($_[3]);
+ my $cb_tags = $_[4] if ($_[4]);
+
+ #Normal channel message
+ if ($cb_bufferp && $nick)
+ {
+ # Format buffer name
+ $bufname = format_buffer_name($cb_bufferp);
+
+ # If alignment is #channel | nick msg
+ if (weechat::config_get_plugin("alignment") eq "channel")
+ {
+ $nick =~ s/\s(.*)/$1/;
+ # Build string
+ $outstr = $bufname."\t".$nick." ".$cb_msg;
+ }
+ # or if it is channel number | nick msg
+ elsif (weechat::config_get_plugin("alignment") eq "schannel")
+ {
+ $nick =~ s/\s(.*)/$1/;
+ # Use channel number instead
+ $bufname = weechat::color("chat_prefix_buffer").weechat::buffer_get_integer($cb_bufferp, 'number').weechat::color("reset");
+ # Build string
+ $outstr = $bufname."\t".$nick." ".$cb_msg;
+ }
+ # or if it is number:#channel | nick msg
+ elsif (weechat::config_get_plugin("alignment") eq "nchannel")
+ {
+ $nick =~ s/\s(.*)/$1/;
+ # Place channel number in front of formatted name
+ $bufname = weechat::color("chat_prefix_buffer").weechat::buffer_get_integer($cb_bufferp, 'number').":".weechat::color("reset").$bufname;
+ # Build string
+ $outstr = $bufname."\t".$nick." ".$cb_msg;
+ }
+ # or if it is #channel nick | msg
+ elsif (weechat::config_get_plugin("alignment") eq "channel,nick")
+ {
+ # Build string
+ $outstr = $bufname.":".$nick."\t".$cb_msg;
+ }
+ # or if it is channel number nick | msg
+ elsif (weechat::config_get_plugin("alignment") eq "schannel,nick")
+ {
+ # Use channel number instead
+ $bufname = weechat::color("chat_prefix_buffer").weechat::buffer_get_integer($cb_bufferp, 'number').weechat::color("reset");
+ # Build string
+ $outstr = $bufname.":".$nick."\t".$cb_msg;
+ }
+ # or if it is number:#channel nick | msg
+ elsif (weechat::config_get_plugin("alignment") eq "nchannel,nick")
+ {
+ # Place channel number in front of formatted name
+ $bufname = weechat::color("chat_prefix_buffer").weechat::buffer_get_integer($cb_bufferp, 'number').":".weechat::color("reset").$bufname;
+ # Build string
+ $outstr = $bufname.":".$nick."\t".$cb_msg;
+ }
+ # or finally | #channel nick msg
+ else
+ {
+ # Build string
+ $outstr = "\t".$bufname.":".$nick." ".$cb_msg;
+ }
+ }
+ # highmon channel toggle message
+ elsif ($cb_bufferp && !$nick)
+ {
+ # Format buffer name
+ $bufname = format_buffer_name($cb_bufferp);
+
+ # If alignment is #channel * | *
+ if (weechat::config_get_plugin("alignment") =~ /channel/)
+ {
+ # If it's actually channel number * | *
+ if (weechat::config_get_plugin("alignment") =~ /schannel/)
+ {
+ # Use channel number instead
+ $bufname = weechat::color("chat_prefix_buffer").weechat::buffer_get_integer($cb_bufferp, 'number').weechat::color("reset");
+ }
+ # Or if it's actually number:#channel * | *
+ if (weechat::config_get_plugin("alignment") =~ /nchannel/)
+ {
+ # Place channel number in front of formatted name
+ $bufname = weechat::color("chat_prefix_buffer").weechat::buffer_get_integer($cb_bufferp, 'number').":".weechat::color("reset").$bufname;
+ }
+ $outstr = $bufname."\t".$cb_msg;
+ }
+ # or if alignment is | *
+ else
+ {
+ $outstr = $bufname.": ".$cb_msg;
+ }
+ }
+ # highmon dynmon
+ elsif (!$cb_bufferp && !$nick)
+ {
+ $outstr = "\t".$cb_msg;
+ }
+
+ # Send string to buffer
+ if (weechat::config_get_plugin("output") eq "buffer")
+ {
+ # Search for and confirm buffer
+ $highmon_buffer = weechat::buffer_search("perl", "highmon");
+ # Print
+ if ($cb_date)
+ {
+ weechat::print_date_tags($highmon_buffer, $cb_date, $cb_tags, $outstr);
+ }
+ else
+ {
+ weechat::print($highmon_buffer, $outstr);
+ }
+ }
+ elsif (weechat::config_get_plugin("output") eq "bar")
+ {
+ # Add time string
+ use POSIX qw(strftime);
+ if ($cb_date)
+ {
+ $time = strftime(weechat::config_string(weechat::config_get("weechat.look.buffer_time_format")), localtime($cb_date));
+ }
+ else
+ {
+ $time = strftime(weechat::config_string(weechat::config_get("weechat.look.buffer_time_format")), localtime);
+ }
+ # Colourise
+ if ($time =~ /\$\{(?:color:)?[\w,]+\}/) # Coloured string
+ {
+ while ($time =~ /\$\{(?:color:)?([\w,]+)\}/)
+ {
+ $color = weechat::color($1);
+ $time =~ s/\$\{(?:color:)?[\w,]+\}/$color/;
+ }
+ $time .= weechat::color("reset");
+ }
+ else # Default string
+ {
+ $colour = weechat::color(weechat::config_string(weechat::config_get("weechat.color.chat_time_delimiters")));
+ $reset = weechat::color("reset");
+ $time =~ s/(\d*)(.)(\d*)/$1$colour$2$reset$3/g;
+ }
+ # Push updates to bar lists
+ push (@bar_lines_time, $time);
+
+ # Change tab char
+ $delim = " ".weechat::color(weechat::config_string(weechat::config_get("weechat.color.chat_delimiters"))).weechat::config_string(weechat::config_get("weechat.look.prefix_suffix")).weechat::color("reset")." ";
+ $outstr =~ s/\t/$delim/;
+
+ push (@bar_lines, $outstr);
+ # Trigger update
+ weechat::bar_item_update("highmon");
+
+ if (weechat::config_get_plugin("bar_scrolldown") eq "on")
+ {
+ weechat::command("", "/bar scroll highmon * ye")
+ }
+ }
+}
+
+# Start the output display
+sub highmon_start
+{
+ if (weechat::config_get_plugin("output") eq "buffer")
+ {
+ highmon_buffer_open();
+ }
+ elsif (weechat::config_get_plugin("output") eq "bar")
+ {
+ highmon_bar_open();
+ }
+}
+
+# Takes two optional args (channel server), toggles monitoring on/off
+sub highmon_toggle
+{
+ $data = $_[0];
+ $buffer = $_[1];
+ $args = $_[2];
+
+ # Check if we've been told what channel to act on
+ if ($args ne "")
+ {
+ # Split argument up
+ @arg_array = split(/ /,$args);
+ # Check if a server was given
+ if ($arg_array[1])
+ {
+ # Find matching
+ $bufp = weechat::buffer_search("irc", $arg_array[1].".".$arg_array[0]);
+ }
+ else
+ {
+ $found_chans = 0;
+ # Loop through defined servers
+ $infolist = weechat::infolist_get("buffer", "", "");
+ while (weechat::infolist_next($infolist))
+ {
+ # Only interesting in IRC buffers
+ if (weechat::infolist_string($infolist, "plugin_name") eq "irc")
+ {
+ # Find buffers that maych
+ $sname = weechat::infolist_string($infolist, "short_name");
+ if ($sname eq $arg_array[0])
+ {
+ $found_chans++;
+ $bufp = weechat::infolist_pointer($infolist, "pointer");
+ }
+ }
+ }
+ weechat::infolist_free($infolist);
+ # If the infolist found more than one channel, halt as we need to know which one
+ if ($found_chans > 1)
+ {
+ weechat::print("", "Channel name is not unique, please define server");
+ return weechat::WEECHAT_RC_OK;
+ }
+ }
+ # Something didn't return right
+ if ($bufp eq "")
+ {
+ weechat::print("", "Could not find buffer");
+ return weechat::WEECHAT_RC_OK;
+ }
+ }
+ else
+ {
+ # Get pointer from where we are
+ $bufp = weechat::current_buffer();
+ }
+ # Get buffer name
+ $bufname = weechat::buffer_get_string($bufp, 'name');
+ # Test if buffer is an IRC channel
+ if ($bufname =~ /(.*)\.([#&\+!])(.*)/)
+ {
+ if (weechat::config_get_plugin($bufname) eq "off")
+ {
+ # If currently off, set on
+ weechat::config_set_plugin($bufname, "on");
+
+ # Send to output formatter
+ highmon_print("Highlight Monitoring Enabled", $bufp);
+ return weechat::WEECHAT_RC_OK;
+ }
+ elsif (weechat::config_get_plugin($bufname) eq "on" || weechat::config_get_plugin($bufname) eq "")
+ {
+ # If currently on, set off
+ weechat::config_set_plugin($bufname, "off");
+
+ # Send to output formatter
+ highmon_print("Highlight Monitoring Disabled", $bufp);
+ return weechat::WEECHAT_RC_OK;
+ }
+ }
+}
+
+# Takes a buffer pointer and returns a formatted name
+sub format_buffer_name
+{
+ $cb_bufferp = $_[0];
+ $bufname = weechat::buffer_get_string($cb_bufferp, 'name');
+
+ # Set colour from buffer name
+ if (weechat::config_get_plugin("color_buf") eq "on")
+ {
+ # Determine what colour to use
+ $color = weechat::info_get("irc_nick_color", $bufname);
+ if (!$color)
+ {
+ $color = 0;
+ @char_array = split(//,$bufname);
+ foreach $char (@char_array)
+ {
+ $color += ord($char);
+ }
+ $color %= 10;
+ $color = sprintf "weechat.color.chat_nick_color%02d", $color+1;
+ $color = weechat::config_get($color);
+ $color = weechat::config_string($color);
+ $color = weechat::color($color);
+ }
+
+ # Private message just show network
+ if (weechat::config_get_plugin("merge_private") eq "on" && weechat::buffer_get_string($cb_bufferp, "localvar_type") eq "private")
+ {
+ $bufname = weechat::buffer_get_string($cb_bufferp, "localvar_server");
+ }
+ # Format name to short or 'nicename'
+ elsif (weechat::config_get_plugin("short_names") eq "on")
+ {
+ $bufname = weechat::buffer_get_string($cb_bufferp, 'short_name');
+ }
+ else
+ {
+ $bufname =~ s/(.*)\.([#&\+!])(.*)/$1$2$3/;
+ }
+
+ # Build a coloured string
+ $bufname = $color.$bufname.weechat::color("reset");
+ }
+ # User set colour name
+ elsif (weechat::config_get_plugin("color_buf") ne "off")
+ {
+ # Private message just show network
+ if (weechat::config_get_plugin("merge_private") eq "on" && weechat::buffer_get_string($cb_bufferp, "localvar_type") eq "private")
+ {
+ $bufname = weechat::buffer_get_string($cb_bufferp, "localvar_server");
+ }
+ # Format name to short or 'nicename'
+ elsif (weechat::config_get_plugin("short_names") eq "on")
+ {
+ $bufname = weechat::buffer_get_string($cb_bufferp, 'short_name');
+ }
+ else
+ {
+ $bufname =~ s/(.*)\.([#&\+!])(.*)/$1$2$3/;
+ }
+
+ $color = weechat::config_get_plugin("color_buf");
+ $bufname = weechat::color($color).$bufname.weechat::color("reset");
+ }
+ # Stick with default colour
+ else
+ {
+ # Private message just show network
+ if (weechat::config_get_plugin("merge_private") eq "on" && weechat::buffer_get_string($cb_bufferp, "localvar_type") eq "private")
+ {
+ $bufname = weechat::buffer_get_string($cb_bufferp, "localvar_server");
+ }
+ # Format name to short or 'nicename'
+ elsif (weechat::config_get_plugin("short_names") eq "on")
+ {
+ $bufname = weechat::buffer_get_string($cb_bufferp, 'short_name');
+ }
+ else
+ {
+ $bufname =~ s/(.*)\.([#&\+!])(.*)/$1$2$3/;
+ }
+ }
+
+ return $bufname;
+}
+
+# Check result of register, and attempt to behave in a sane manner
+if (!weechat::register("highmon", "KenjiE20", "2.5", "GPL3", "Highlight Monitor", "", ""))
+{
+ # Double load
+ weechat::print ("", "\tHighmon is already loaded");
+ return weechat::WEECHAT_RC_OK;
+}
+else
+{
+ # Start everything
+ highmon_hook();
+ highmon_config_init();
+ highmon_start();
+}
diff --git a/.weechat/perl/iset.pl b/.weechat/perl/iset.pl
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..f179022
--- /dev/null
+++ b/.weechat/perl/iset.pl
@@ -0,0 +1,1462 @@
+#
+# Copyright (C) 2008-2014 Sebastien Helleu
+# Copyright (C) 2010-2014 Nils Görs
+#
+# This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify
+# it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by
+# the Free Software Foundation; either version 3 of the License, or
+# (at your option) any later version.
+#
+# This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
+# but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
+# MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the
+# GNU General Public License for more details.
+#
+# You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
+# along with this program. If not, see .
+#
+# Set WeeChat and plugins options interactively.
+#
+# History:
+#
+# 2014-09-30, arza :
+# version 3.6: fix current line counter when options aren't found
+# 2014-06-03, nils_2 :
+# version 3.5: add new option "use_mute"
+# 2014-01-30, stfn :
+# version 3.4: add new options "color_value_diff" and "color_value_diff_selected"
+# 2014-01-16, luz :
+# version 3.3: fix bug with column alignment in iset buffer when option
+# name contains unicode characters
+# 2013-08-03, Sebastien Helleu :
+# version 3.2: allow "q" as input in iset buffer to close it
+# 2013-07-14, Sebastien Helleu :
+# version 3.1: remove unneeded calls to iset_refresh() in mouse callback
+# (faster mouse actions when lot of options are displayed),
+# fix bug when clicking on a line after the last option displayed
+# 2013-04-30, arza :
+# version 3.0: simpler title, fix refresh on unset
+# 2012-12-16, nils_2 :
+# version 2.9: fix focus window with iset buffer on mouse click
+# 2012-08-25, nils_2 :
+# version 2.8: most important key and mouse bindings for iset buffer added to title-bar (idea The-Compiler)
+# 2012-07-31, nils_2 :
+# version 2.7: add combined option and value search (see /help iset)
+# : add exact value search (see /help iset)
+# : fix problem with metacharacter in value search
+# : fix use of uninitialized value for unset option and reset value of option
+# 2012-07-25, nils_2 :
+# version 2.6: switch to iset buffer (if existing) when command /iset is called with arguments
+# 2012-03-17, Sebastien Helleu :
+# version 2.5: fix check of sections when creating config file
+# 2012-03-09, Sebastien Helleu :
+# version 2.4: fix reload of config file
+# 2012-02-02, nils_2 :
+# version 2.3: fixed: refresh problem with new search results and cursor was outside window.
+# : add: new option "current_line" in title bar
+# version 2.2: fixed: refresh error when toggling plugins description
+# 2011-11-05, nils_2 :
+# version 2.1: use own config file (iset.conf), fix own help color (used immediately)
+# 2011-10-16, nils_2 :
+# version 2.0: add support for left-mouse-button and more sensitive mouse gesture (for integer/color options)
+# add help text for mouse support
+# 2011-09-20, Sebastien Helleu :
+# version 1.9: add mouse support, fix iset buffer, fix errors on first load under FreeBSD
+# 2011-07-21, nils_2 :
+# version 1.8: added: option "show_plugin_description" (alt+p)
+# fixed: typos in /help iset (lower case for alt+'x' keys)
+# 2011-05-29, nils_2 :
+# version 1.7: added: version check for future needs
+# added: new option (scroll_horiz) and usage of scroll_horiz function (weechat >= 0.3.6 required)
+# fixed: help_bar did not pop up immediately using key-shortcut
+# 2011-02-19, nils_2 :
+# version 1.6: added: display of all possible values in help bar (show_help_extra_info)
+# fixed: external user options never loaded when starting iset first time
+# 2011-02-13, Sebastien Helleu :
+# version 1.5: use new help format for command arguments
+# 2011-02-03, nils_2 :
+# version 1.4: fixed: restore value filter after /upgrade using buffer local variable.
+# 2011-01-14, nils_2 :
+# version 1.3: added function to search for values (option value_search_char).
+# code optimization.
+# 2010-12-26, Sebastien Helleu :
+# version 1.2: improve speed of /upgrade when iset buffer is open,
+# restore filter used after /upgrade using buffer local variable,
+# use /iset filter argument if buffer is open.
+# 2010-11-21, drubin :
+# version 1.1.1: fix bugs with cursor position
+# 2010-11-20, nils_2 :
+# version 1.1: cursor position set to value
+# 2010-08-03, Sebastien Helleu :
+# version 1.0: move misplaced call to infolist_free()
+# 2010-02-02, rettub :
+# version 0.9: turn all the help stuff off if option 'show_help_bar' is 'off',
+# new key binding - to toggle help_bar and help stuff on/off
+# 2010-01-30, nils_2 :
+# version 0.8: fix error when option does not exist
+# 2010-01-24, Sebastien Helleu